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On gun rights set to take up their first big case on the issue in more than a decade. Im Hallie Jackson in washington along with our Nbc News team. Shannon pettypiece. Dr. John torres. Shannon, let me start with you and what were learning about this updated Mask Guidance that we expect to hear more about from President Biden. We should expect to hear from President Biden tomorrow with updated guidance on wearing masks outdoors. They said this is all still fluid, there is no finalized guidance, but that is what we can anticipate and we know we heard from dr. Anthony fauci saying the cdc is looking at new guidance about what vaccinated people can do and we should get a update from that in the coming days. The Cdc Guidance on masks outdoors has never been really firm unless youre going to be within six feet of someone, but all along they said the risk of transmission outdoors is low and they encourage people to do things outside when mask wearing is not feasible. But all of this i think is important and significant because it comes at the 100 Day Mark as were approaching that and you know the president has repeatedly asked people to wear masks for the first 100 days, so it could be a sign to people that the country is moving in the right direction. So if this is an announcement that vaccinated people are able to drop the masks, does that seem reasonable to you . Is there nuance there that might be messed . Whats your sense . I think were looking with a few nuances to make sure in a this message tonights to get out. But want to make sure that people are not dropping masks. Everybody else around me doesnt have masks. And what we know is that being outdoors, being socially distanced from people, we may not need those masks, and at the same time theyre going to say you have to be careful. If youre in gatherings or crowds within you have to keep that on even if youre vaccinated to give out that optics. One thing they have been very good about is using the science. Cleaning, for example, disinfekting. If you remember a year ago were ieping everything down. They said we just need to clean now, not necessarily disinfekt. Theyre using that science appropriately and i think well see more of that tomorrow. If you go to a Baseball Game, you should still have your mask on, does that seem scientifically sound to you . I think it could be if it is an outdoor Baseball Game and possibly like we mentioned earlier if youre in a crowd where other people are vaccinated. That means they might loosen restrictions a little bit, but it will still be extremely important. They will keep the same guidelines, hallie. Let me go to you throughout in l. A. You have officials where you are elsewhere around the country concerned about when it comes to the issue of full jackson nation. People not getting their second vaccination doses. Whats the latest . Hallie good morning. About 8 of people that receive the first dose of the fiezer of moderna vaccines are not showing up. Some of them could have gotten the second vaccine at a second location. That could be a reason, but there is also reports of Vaccination Sites canceling second dose appointments. And also vaccine he is den si. Other people who are just scared because of the Side Effects that some people suffered with these vaccinations. We spoke to a doctor here in Los Angeles who serves a lot of the latino population and he wanted to point out the importance of the second dose. If you only get one shot you might not be protected against all of the variants because your Immune System is not ready for it. We urge people to get that second dose so you can be fully immuized and protected. Now a biden Administration Official tells officials that even if 92 of people are following through and getting the second dose, thats not as bad as other doses. For shingles, the number of people that return for a second dose is about 75 returning for the second dose. But the cdc says more research is needed to know specifically what is happening and what this 8 could mean. Thank you, i heard you mention the Johnson And Johnson pause that is now unpaused. Youre at a Mass Vaccination Site in miami, you have a new poll showing three out of four people have not been vaccinated. Tell what it is like for you and what youre hearing on the ground. Good morning, whats the Net Impact of J Js pause on vaccinations overall. Im in miamidade here. Over the shoulder you see some folks are trickling in right now. It doesnt look like a lot, but there is about 3,000 plus people getting vaccinated here every single day. The Big Question over the weekend especially in florida, on sunday, is how many people feel defendant getting J J. It was 2180 pfizer shots. Many people were coming back for their second shot of pfizer, but they can do 3,000 J J shots here a day. I spoke with a lot of people that noted split sentiments. I spoke to the bensons from miami. Here is what they had to say. After seeing what the other women went through, i would not have risked it with the johnso and johnson. I want Johnson And Johnson because i dont want two shots. So i was hoping i could get Johnson And Johnson. Hallie it is notable that part of the deal was that there would be new Warning And Guidance on Consent Forms and information packets. This is a Consent Form saying are you a woman 18 to 49d so theyre flagged if Someone Isnt aware that is the demographic primarily involved with the 15 severe cases of Blood Clots so far. Thank you to all of you for the developing news on the latest on the pandemic. We want to turn to some breaking news. Justices announcing that for the first time in a decade theyre going to take up a big issue in a gun rights debate. How much protection does the Second Amendment give you for carrying a gun outside of the home. Pete, give us some background on the case. In 2008 the Supreme Court said for the first time that the Second Amendment provides any individual right to own a gun. What the court said is the right is to own a gun at home for self defense. Since then the court has won case after another and declined to take up a follow up issue. Next is the right to keep and bear arms. And so what about guns outside of the home. Now it agreed to take that issue up coming from new york state. In new york there is a law against carrying openly in government but you can carry a concealed weapon. The challengers say it is so restrictive that ordinary Citizens Cant qualify. You have to show a special need other than a general need for self defense. The case will be argued next fall. Interestingly, what changed in all of the years since the court ducked the issue is that we need a more conservative court. Most notably with the appointment of amy coneybarrett. Saying the Second Amendment provides more expansive protection. This s a big Deal Case in is the first big case on the Second Amendment rights, and it comes at a time when there is more and more concern about gun violence. So it is an interesting confluence of events here and they will take the case up in the fall, argued maybe in october or november. Pete, Thank You for that developing news. More Coming Up including a Black Man that was shot and killed by police in North Carolina. Were going to look at the find moments of his life from Body Cam footage. And the first 100 days in office for President Biden. The Campaign Promise that republicans and democrats say he has failed to deliver. Plus, the calls for the u. S. To donate our stockpiles to india. There he is, that conversation after the break. He is, that conn after the break. Are waking up to whats possible with rybelsus®. You are my sunshine my only sunshine. 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In india alone, there are 730 variants of covid floating around in the population. It only takes one of them to overpower our vaccines that were using here. We need to douse out the fires here and elsewhere to save ourselves and this is the right thing to do, too. Were going to be talking with a doctor from india later in the show. Some of the stories youre hearing are just devastating. They are sending over vaccine components, medical supplies, is that a good enough start to you or it sounds like youre saying that is simply not enough at this point in your view. It is a good first step, but its not enough. When we have upwards of 30 Million doses sitting in warehouses unused, not going to be used. We should send them to be put to good use in countries where they are already using it. It is safe and effective, and its part of the Vaccination Programs of a number of countries. Sending it to those countries, it would be seamlessly integrated and we set a precedent by loaning some of them to canada and mexico. So we can do it again but we have to do it now, hallie, while people are desperately trying to survive covid. We have heard horrifying stories of patients dieing outside of hospitals, not having enough oxygen to breathe. So we need to get on top of this right now, hallie. Let me bring it back to what is happening at home and specifically what we started our story with. The news that as early as tomorrow, President Biden might announce new Cdc Guidance On Areaing masks outside. Im wondering what you make of that announcement, or the potential, and we dont know yet for sure, but the guidance for people that no longer have to ware their masks outdoors. Do you believe that is a potential step towards overcoming some of the hesitancy for vaccines that people might feel moving forward . Yes, it could be. And just a couple weeks ago i had a chance to question dr. Fauci on these subjects. I think it is the important to use this type of guidance. So people know when and where a mask makes sense and when and where they can congregate with others. We need to open up the economy, but we need do it safely. And similar guidance. But if i could just make one small point and what were seeing in india and wrels is especially will a warping that we cannot let our guards down. India was at less than 10,000 cases a day in as recently as february at a time when we were at 300,000 cases. And it seemed like it was climbing. We need to remember, we need to all get vaccinated immediately, and we need to get masks and take other precautions as well. Thank you so much for being with us. We appreciate your time. Were going to have a doctor live from the ground that is Fighting Covid in new delhi. Coming up, a Man Frighting for his life today. Taking you there with the latest after the break. 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Seconds later the same deputy that gave him a Ride Home, returns to the scene, finds him in the street, and what happens next was caught on the Body Cam of the Sheriffs Deputy. Well play that for you, its disturbing to watch. Show me your hands drop the gun he has a gun to his head. Drop the gun now. Stop stop shots fired, shots fired, one down. It turned out that he did not have a gun. What the Sheriffs Deputy thought was a gun was a Cordless Phone that he was using to speak to the 911 dispatcher at that moment. The Family Saw the Body Camera footage. They did not saying in but they put out a statement saying he was shot ten times and they think the whole situation was completely avoidable give than he told the dispatcher that he did not have a weapon. The family as well as League Representatives expected to make comments on this in the next hour outside of the courthouse. I know you will be watching that for us, josh. I want to turn now to what is happening in North Carolina as well. Family members of Andrew Brown junior are bracing themselves to see the final moments of his life. With Pressure Mounding for that footage to be released publicly. He was shot and killed as they tried to serve him with a Search And Arrest warrant. Katy park is in new york city. What do we not regarding timing here. Good morning to you. We know that Browns Family as well as their attorneys will be heading into the Sheriffs Office around 11 30 this morning. Theyre hopeful they will see this Body Camera footage. A judge needs to sign off on the release of his Body Camera footage. It could be hours or days when that happens. We know that City Officials swell the sheriff formally Nut A request to get the footage released. Meanwhile the longer we wait and the more time that passes grieving families are growing more frustrated. Take a listen. With all of these killings going on, i never expected this to happen to close to home. Now i have to live every day, my newborn without even getting a chance to meet him at all. And thats going to hurt me every day. I just want justice. And the community is joining those calls, i can tell you, that protests have been happening ever since the shooting took place on wednesday. They have been peaceful. Right now at this hour there is a small crowd that is growing in front of the Sheriffs Office in anticipation of the family arriving to see the footage. The mayor declared a state of emergency. She is trying to get ahead of the situation, shes not sure how it will play out. Cathy park, Thank You. Turning back here to washington now in politics, president Bide Listen Hit his 100th day in office this week after the past 95 have seem packed. There was the Impeachment Trial and acquittal. Multiple mass shootings, a 1. 9 trillion relief package. An influx of migrant children at the border. Guilty verdicts in the trial of the death of george floyd. Now new polling shows more than half of americans approve of the way that Joe Biden is doing at president. It shows that immigration is his weak spot. It is a Job Vice President harris has been tasked to take on in part as she meets virtually with the president of guatemala. I want to bring in Jeff Bennet from the white house. Let me start with you, jeff. Talk about the Push And Hau it plays into the Administration Discussion on immigration as well. Vice president harris is leading the diplomatic effort among the u. S. And the northern triangle countries. The reason so many people are fleeing El Salvador and honduras. So she does have a meeting with the president , and theyre going to talk about finding ways to meet the needs of the people and deepening the cooperation, and then she will meet with immigration organizations. Advocates say the real crisis is what the folks are fleeing. The violence, the natural i did sas seres, but any sort of diplomatic effort takes time. If they are going to rebuild, that takes time. If this country sends more money, that takes time. What they dont have is more time. People are making decisions about whether or not they will present themselves at the border and whether or not they should do it. It gets more fraught and more dangerous. There is a potential in the uptick of Migrant Crossings that could get higher. And it is an issue of unaccompanied children showing up at the border. Steve, lets look overall. As you know, this has been a Benchmarker Milestone for president s, break down how they think he is doing. Yeah, pretty steady for biden. We could probably say two things. One if you want to compare him to his most meet predecessor, this is better than trump did. Four years at President And Donald trump could not crack a 50 Job Approval rating. Biden has been a tick above so far as president. This is also a cut below where most of bidens other modern predecessors were at this point. So somewhere in between those two. Now we also asked this question here. That was the Job Approval. This is the positive negative. Do you personally have a positive or negative view of Joe Biden . You see what the public makes of him as a leader and as a person. Compare that to some others, the democratic party, slightly upside down here. 39 and 41 , positive and negative. The former president , 32 and 55 . You dont hear from trump as much but he still looms over politics. You see what the public is making of him. That might be shaping things a little bit. We also asked folks how do you characterize the start that biden got off to as president. 44 say great or good tart. 55 say they would call a fair or poor start. Compare this, because we asked the same question for awhile now, compare it to the same question at the same point of Trumps President , 35 and 64 . Go back to obama. Obama had a 54 great or good start rating. So biden in between the Where Trump was, where obama was before him. And mentioning this again, bidens best scores, performance as president , coronavirus. Near lay 70 approval of handling of the coronavirus. As you said his worst scores are Border Security and immigration. Nearly 60 disapprove at how he has been handling that. Thank, steve. As we have been talking about with 100 days in office, you have one Battleground State still holding a recount of the 2020 Election Results right now. Wait until you hear the details about this. Were talking about the Secretary Of State here and the precedent in this very strange story. D the precedent in this very strange story. S your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . Really . I didnt aah ok. Im on vibrate. Aaah only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. If you wanna be a winner then get a Turkey Footlong from subway®. Thats oven roasted turkey. 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A company called Cyber Ninjas that calls themselves an Industry Leader but they have no election experience, never done an audit, and the leader of the organization believed Conspiracy Theories about the election. Any other journalists are required to work a six Hour Shift as an official audit observer. Not allowed to report anything or take notes. President trump is cheering it on from the sidelines. Redistricting that the results will be startling. Joined now, katie hobbs. Thank you for being with us. Hi, thanks for having me. There has been a lot of legal back and forth over the weekend. You have state democrats trying to keep this from happening. They did not post this bond, bottom line, is it your understanding that the audit is continuing on today . As you said they have no experience of this kind and theyre not an election firm. So theyre looking for what they predetermined was things that would change the election. And that is absolutely not going to happen. So this count is, whatever this is, is continuing to happen as we speak. So i know you asked the Attorney General to to investigation. What are they finding. They are really, our concerns are numerous. I think the lack of concern is the list of things that were about to be concerned about is shorter. So we have concerns about the security, concerning about the lack of knowledge and experience. Concerns about voter intimidation. And some of the things they outlined and participated in. So were, right now, involved in this legal fight. In terms of the brief that we fild over the weekend. You mentioned Security Concerns. There are two plus million ballots in the hands of the folks that you described as a socalled count. What are the Security Concerns you have and what can the state do to make sure the ballots are being kept safe . Early in march my officer outlined a list of Security Measures that we hoped the senate would take in terms of the ballots and the election equipment. So far we have not received any response about what kind of Security Measures they will have in place. But you know throughout the course of the election and following the election, all of these experience theories about things that didnt happen in the election, they sited the lack of security, which was not true. Now were seeing this quote, unquote audit making the same mistakes that they said happened in the election. Im sorry, you mentioned mistakes, im wondering if you are speaking of things like Hand Counters using blue pens, but those are banned in Ballot Counting rooms because they can be read by ballot machines. Other things like on friday an investigative proof was able to get inside, and before friday, get access to the room where it was happening and even get close to ballots in some cases and they were not asked to leave. Yes, absolutely. A lot of the things that we listed they specifically mention the color of pens allowed around live ballots and this was obviously something that was ignored. Do you blame, i wonder, for any part of this, the issue of gerrymandering the State Legislature moving in a more rightward direction which is something that the State Senate used in order to subpoena the ballots and move forward with this . Arizona has an independent redistricting commission. So i dont know how much it refigures into this, but in both chambers of the legislature right now republicans have the Narrowist Margin they have had in our state in decades. And were seeing a kind of really drastic overreach in many regards. This is certainly no exception to that. What happens if, and i dont want to get too much ahead of the hypotheticals here, but if Cyber Ninjas finds results from the count that is different from the three recounts that arizona had previously . The thing is is that i dont know how we can take anything that comes out of this socalled audit seriously. The firm disqualified themselves not just in my eyes, but by a lot of independent observers that sited clear bias and the comments made about the outcome of the election. The fact that theyre making this up as they go along and not following any type of written procedures and theyre trying to close everything off from the public and not letting people see anything that comes out of the process. I think that has been clear from day one. Katie hobbs, Thank You for your time this morning. I know this is a story that were all following closely in the days to come. Coming up the catastrophic surge of covid in india. Next up, talking with a doctor that is saying the pan determine sick entirely out of control. That is coming from india, next. 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The situation is a bit like it was in the new york and the onset of this problem when even simple things like Burial Grounds were not available. It is a terrible situation in india right now. How are you managing that, even from a personal perspective, looking at the devastation that you are describing in a place that you serve . All of us must do our bit. Im a vascular surgeon. But i have doubled up as a covid doctor. Im giving free online consultation to any patient who needs it. Im managing them close to their home. Im spending about 10 to 12 hours a day doing this, talking to the patients, their Care Caregivers and helping them there are many doctors like me doing this. We are a not for profit organization. We are trying to spread the message of the devastation in a professional manner. And we are trying to focus on the vaccination bit. Part of the problem in india is the vaccination never took off the way it was meant to be. Theres an urgent need. The benefits would kick in after a month or two. But that is declining. We absolutely admire the way u. S. And several western countries have controlled covid by way of vaccination. We just spoke with a member of congress here in the u. S. Who is calling on the biden administration to release stockpiles of the Astrazeneca Vaccine to india. That has not been authorized. What kind of a difference might that make for india if that were to happen . Would you like to see it happen in. Absolutely. Of the two vaccines, astrazeneca was the one and it has been given to a large number of people. If we could get vaccine, whether its pfizer or moderna, especially astrazeneca, that would be very good for the country. What is the one thing you need the most right now . Is it the vaccine . Is it Something Else . Is it physical help in the form of doctors . What is the one thing that could help india turn the corner here . I think thats a very difficult question to answer. We need all of these. Anybody, whether its an individual, whether its organization, whether its a philanthropist, national government, it would be welcome. We need doctors, paramedics, doctors and vaccination. Vaccination probably in a slightly medium. But the other things. With so many doctors suffering from covid and the paramedics suffering from covid, they are at a very thinly stretched out in the hospitals. We are all trying to jump in. People like me, im 64. We have even offered that we will go and man the wards if required in the hospitals. Fortunately, it has not come to that. This is the kind of Situation India is in right now. You are doing such important work. Doctor, Thank You very much for being on with us and talking with us through your viewpoint and your perspective of the situation on the ground where you are in new delhi. Thank you. We appreciate your time. We will have more on the Covid Pandemic in india and elsewhere overseas throughout the day here on msnbc. On politics, we are touching on the race to succeed retiring republican senator Rob Portman in ohio. There is a new democratic candidate in the rink. Former president ial candidate tim ryan. He released this video this morning. If he wins the democratic nomination, he will go up against one of at least four declared candidates in a State Trump won in 2016 and 2020. Up next, the families of Andrew Brown, junior, and Isaiah Brown will speak in the next hour, minutes from now, live coverage of both when they happen. The major change for Travel Heading toward the summer vacation season. Thats next. And fastest 5g network. And now, were americas most reliable 5g network. To celebrate, everyone can upgrade their experience with the free 5g upgrade. Trade in any working Cell Phone for a free 5g samsung galaxy. And at tmobile, when you switch, get unlimited 5g for the same price as a limited plan with the other guys. The free 5g upgrade. Unlimited 5g and a free 5g phone. Only at tmobile. 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Thats being figured out with talks centering around digital green certificates to prove vaccinations. To talk about it, i want to bring in raf sanchez. One official says it will happen when its safe. What do we know about the Time Line . Whats required . Explain about the digital certificate. Reporter the president of the European Commission says she wants to see fully vaccinated american tourists back in europe as early as this summer. That would be the first time americans have been able to go on vacation in europe in more than a year. As you say, theres still a lot to figure out here. We dont know exactly when americans are going to be allowed back in. We dont know what you are going to have to do to prove that you have been vaccinated. The europeans talking about green digital certificates. It would be a Vaccine Passport you would have on your phone similar to whats being used in israel. Those arent even being rolled out yet in europe let alone synced up with american vaccination records. Still a lot to figure out. One European Union spokesman saying today this plan still very much in progress. Raf sanchez live in london. Thank you. That does it for us this hour. Great to be with you, as always. Up next, more with Craig Melvin picking up our coverage. Good Monday Morning to you. Craig melvin here at Msnbc Headquarters in new york city. We are following moving parts, including an expected major announcement from President Biden on the cdcs Mask Guidance, specifically masks being worn outdoors. Its something officials have been anticipated as more americans continue to get vaccinated. Speaking of the president , this we

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