Welcome to thursday. It is meet the press daily. Im chuck todd. When you battle a pandemic daily, there are certain curves you want to bend and others you dont. Heres one Curve Bending in the wrong direction. Its the pace of vaccinations in the u. S. It is down 11 off its recent peak. This does not appear to be the result of a supply issue here in the United States. But as officials made comments to reporters yesterday suggesting the Vaccine Market nationally might be saturated, and that the u. S. Has been shipping out more doses than are being used in recent weeks. And thats despite the major setbacks in the manufacturing and administration of Johnson Johnsons oneshot vaccine, where the fda paused citing Safety Concerns and the decision could come as soon as tomorrow about resuming its use. There are reports indicating that is the likely result tomorrow. Still today the white house announced it is rolling out a new campaign in an attempt to combat Vaccine Hesitancy, which comes the day after President Biden made this urgent plea to americans at an event where he marked 200 million shots in arms before his 100th day in office. The time is now to open up a new phase of this historic vaccination effort. To put it simply, if youre waiting for your turn, wait no longer. Now is the time for everyone over 16 years of age to get vaccinated. Unlike the Target Groups where we made such great progress, the broad swath of American Adults still remain largely unvaccinated. That plea is coming and its the decline of new infections nationally has stalled out. New cases are definitely down from the alltime peaks but they are not low. Theyre so stubbornly high at a rate of roughly 65,000 new cases every day. We cannot seem to get below that number. Health officials are concerned all of those infections could end up being a Breeding Ground for new variants, and you know what that can do to the vaccine protection. While Vaccine Demand appears to be the administrations challenge here at home, abroad, our allies, theyre getting desperate because they want some of our supply. Canada appears to be looking for the u. S. To help. Mexico already brokered deals for help with its supplies. Global infections have been rising eight weeks straight. The situation in india is spiraling out of control. All of this stark reminders were not out of this globally and still in the midst of, yes, a global pandemic. Joining me now, one of the Top Health Officials in the United States, dr. Francis collins, director of the National Institutes of health. Dr. Collins, i dont know if theres anybody working harder than you to combat Vaccine Hesitancy and i know a lot of people are working very hard on this. Let me start with this. Youre a man of faith. You talked about talking to communities of faith about Vaccine Hesitancy. Is that the issue though or is this a larger problem than than maybe religious believes . Its a larger problem, chuck. Certainly the case that particularly white evangelicals seem to be resistant of the idea vaccines are something they want to take advantage of. Its also true of a lot of young people who think of this disease as not much of a threat to them and going back doing the usual things about much concern. Politically, we know from the polls also this seems to split by your Political Party and certainly republican men in particular seem less likely to be interested in the vaccine. Everybody has somewhat Different Reasons for this but it is alarming this is so widespread at a time were right on the edge of being able to get past this disease or not, depending on what happens in the next couple months. Well, can you try to animate that line for us . What is that line . Where do we need to get where we can say okay, is it the last 15 we tolerate not getting vaccinated, last 10, last 5 . Is there a Target Number out there youre looking at . Nobody really can say precisely where that bright light is, where you get to Herd Immunity and the virus has to go packing. Of course, it will differ across the country. But generally we want 75 to 80 being immunized. Were not there. Were making great progress but as your graph showed, we seem to be perhaps slagging a bit. There are still 130 Million People who have not gotten their first dose yet and thats way too many to send this virus packing. We have 132 Million People susceptible so this will go on and on and on. Let me Say Something particularly to young people who they think theyre among the most resistant, this isnt just about yourself but providing Community Immunity to protect your neighbors, grandparents. This is about doing something for the whole community, not just oneself. And also people have not begun to realize how significant the consequences of covid19 could be. Even young people with mild illness, many of them months later are still struggling with fatigue, sleeplessness, brain fog, unable to go back to where they were. You dont want that. This vaccine prevents you from getting sick in the first place so it also prevents that long covid problem. There are so many reasons here. I just appeal to people. If you feel you already made up your mind and not going to do this, step back for a minute, kind of hit the reset button but look at the data. Theres so much evidence out there. Whats about safety, whats about efficacy . Why wouldnt you want to take care of a free, safe and effective vaccine that can save lives . I know were hesitant on mandates in general. You hear the word mandate and i dont care what you attach it to, if its a mandate to sign up for health insurance, auto insurance. I know this gets debated. But at what point would it be better for the overall public for some form of Vaccine Mandate . Certainly, there are organizations considering that. Youve seen colleges and universities beginning to raise their hand to say if youre coming to our school next fall, we need to see youve been vaccinated. Health care facilities who have responsibilities not to have this virus spread to patients in their care also beginning to speak about this. There are challenges. There are issues because this is an Emergency Use Authorization and not a final approval by the fda. There are some debate about whether organizations have the Legal Authority to do mandates. But i do think in many cases that would make a lot of sense as long as you allow exceptions in places that are really appropriate. But still, chuck, this is hard for me to understand. Were technologically the most advanced country in the world. We had this Amazing Development from science for a vaccine safe and effective thats put forward in the most rigorous way and 560,000 people died from this disease and we can put an end to that. And yet were having this discussion about whether people ought to take advantage of it or not. I get it. Theres all of the suspicions, distrust, Conspiracy Theories. But please, people, step back and look at the evidence. Thats what we all should do right now. Alternative to the Vaccine Mandate is what Kroger Grocery store did, offer bonuses for those, the proactive way. Major League Baseball is trying to say, hey, you want your privileges to play cards again, get to 85 vaccination as a team. Are there some of those methods that may be even government can use even the government can use . I remember not being in school when i was in the second grade because they didnt have the exact data when i got vaccinated for certain vaccines. I know Public Schools can make this mandate. Indeed, whether they can before a formal approval, im not sure. But for diseases a lot less threatening for this one. I know people dont like mandates, and believe me, i hear about this all of the time. That invades peoples liberties. But when youre thinking about Public Health and how to save lives, you got to think about all of the things that can get us there as quickly as possible. We dont want this virus running wild for months to come. As you said in the opening, thats how other variants appear and those variants might ultimately make the vaccine no longer useful. Right now were in good shape, not great shape, but we just have to get off to the finish line. Like 234 this marathon and maybe we got to mile 20 but were not done yet, this would be a terrible time to stop. Lets talk about Johnson Johnson. Theres a lot of speculation about what the ruling is going to be tomorrow. Look, this is your specialty. You guys deal with these vaccines. Where is your Comfort Level on Johnson Johnson assuming the fda reauthorizes this again . Its very much the call of the cdc and fda, and i too will be very curious to see what happens tomorrow. You may have notice the European Agency already went through that same process and decided to give a green light to the Johnson Johnson vaccine as long as theres a warning associated with it. Please, just to be very clear, this is an extremely rare circumstance, about 1 in a million individuals who got this vaccine, who developed this rare problem with clotting and low blood platelets, which is actually quite treatable if its recognized and you dont make the mistake of giving the wrong drug, namely heparin, in that circumstance. The pause was the right thing to do to get all of the data together to be sure we understand it and now see what they decide to do. We certainly are not only thinking about ourselves but the rest of the world. This is a vaccine that could be manufactured in as many as a million doses by the end of the year. When youre talking about benefits versus risks and 1 in a million rare condition versus potentially saving tens of millions of lives, well, thats a pretty one to look at positively. When is the when do you think its time for the United States to start sharing its inventory of vaccines with the world . Have we hit that point . Should we be being a little more aggressive with just sharing within the hemisphere . Weve already done some of that in terms of sharing with mexico and canada, with astrazeneca doses that our country has not yet approved but there has. That was a good start. Im a Firm Believer that we are supposed to be a Global Leader in all kinds of ways but maybe particularly in health. To the extent we have made an incredible investment to get these vaccines developed and to do a lot of manufacturing in advance, were in a good position once our own country is well covered to begin to be very generous in terms of how we support this effort. We have put billions of dollars into covax, the global way in which vaccine doses are going to be distributed, particularly to low and middle income countries. This is an opportunity for us to lead globally, altruistic. To recognize this is a disease, if we want it to go away, it has to go away everywhere. Otherwise it will just keep coming back and the world is in trouble. We had more cases a couple of days ago than ever. 5 million cases in the world. So we have a Long Way To Go 20 declare victory. You know, global is not the opposite of domestic and domestic is not the opposite of global. Were all linked together, especially with diseases that dont read maps and dont notice country boundaries. Yeah, and time is not on our side. We have a little time but i dont know if its on the globes side now. Dr. Francis collins, always appreciate your thoughtful and straightforward expertise. Thank you, sir. Thank you, chuck. Nice to be with you. Turning now to minneapolis, where just two days after Derek Chauvin was found guilty of the murder of george floyd, the funeral for Daunte Wright, another black man killed by a Police Officer, is about to get under way. 20yearold wright was shot and killed during a traffic stop in brooklyn center, minnesota, ten days ago. He was shot, the officer claims mistakenly grabbed her gun instead of a taser. Wright will be eulogized by his family, including senators klobuchar. And just moments ago minnesota governor tim wall held two minutes of silence to honor Daunte Wrights life. Shaquille brewster joins me from outside the Shiloh Temple International Ministries in minneapolis, where the funeral will take place. Shaq, just for the community in and around the twin cities, this has got to be emotionally its always hard, if it can somehow be harder now, it must be. Thats exactly right, chuck the range of Emotions Minneapolis had to go through just in this week. The mood is likely going to be somber. We already saw the family lining up on the opposite side of the building. Were waiting for them to file in for the viewing. And we saw members of the family come in and look and pay their last respects to Daunte Wright at the open casket. Of course, the casket will be closed today for the final time. Already at this Funeral Service, Memorial Service, weve seen the governor of the state of minnesota. Weve seen bong of minnesotas senators here. I thought congresswoman elin omar in the pictures there. We also saw keith ellison, the attorney general. I think what underscores the experience and the pain this community is dealing with is actually George Floyds family has also filed into the church behind me. Theyre here in support for Daunte Wrights family. What we expect to see once the program begins, we know reverend al sharpton, he will be delivering the eulogy for Daunte Wright. We know that family Attorney Ben Crump will be doing what theyre calling a call for justice. We also know we will hear likely from senator amy klobuchar. Were expecting a lot of highprofile figures 20 come up and speak when this Memorial Service gets started. You see Church Folks Filing in now. And it looks like behind me, it looks like the family is not starting to enter. Im looking behind and it looks like some of the family is starting to enter the church behind me, chuck. Shaquille brewster on the ground for us, shaq, thank you very much. And you can stream the entire Funeral Service live on msnbc. Com. You can find it now. 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Moscow said today it ordered troops to withdraw from the ukraine border, both as President Putin raised alarm with a buildup bigger than 2014 with crimea and then said he will determine when people cross his red lines, among other saberrattlinglike rhetoric. But this news come as joe biden kicked off off a twoday virtual Climate Change summit, being attended by 40 leaders, including of germany, china and russia. No nation can solve this crisis on our own as i know you all fully understand. All of us, all of us, particularly those of us who represent the Worlds Largest economies, we have to step up. Those who do take action and make bold investments in other people and Clean Energy Future will win the good jobs of tomorrow and make their economies more resilient and competitive. So lets run that race. After four years of disengagement on the Climate Issue, the white house is clearly trying to position the United States as a world leader on this issue and others but, frankly, the history in the United States the climate hasnt been, shall we say, stable. The Biden Administration today committed to cut u. S. Carbon emissions in half by 2030, part of the u. S. commitment to the paris climate accords, which President Biden rejoined on his first day in office. Joining me now from the white house, nbc News White House can correspondent peter alexander. Im also joined by lea stokes, Climate Scientist and expert. Peter, lets start with you today. Much of this is about reassuring the world what the u. S. Is after. But at the end of the day, one can understand if the world goes, hmm, every time youve had a republican president this century, youve not been part of International Climate agreements. So, you know, what makes this different . What does the u. S. Is doing that that says, hey, we mean it this time . Good question, chuck. And one we will raise with senator kerry, the sort of climate ambassador now, will be here in a couple minutes, and what they can do to calcify this effort so if President Biden does not win reelection in 2024 and there was a republican president , they couldnt with the stroke of a pen basically roll back all of the goals and targets being set by the president today. As you noted, the goal today is accomplish two things one, to reassert the u. S. Is in a position of leadership here and reassert those allies of that fact right now. Theres certainly some coming on board with the u. S. canada today announcing by 2030, it will roll back its emissions as a target by roughly 40plus percent. Japan saying that number will be roughly 46 . This target perfect President Biden of 50 or more by 2030 is a very ambitious goal. It will be lower it to that point from 2005 to 2030. But as of 2019, the u. S. Rolled its emissions back by 13 over that time. So the u. S. Has a Long Way To Go, with the president saying he wants the u. S. To reach Net Zero Emissions by 2050. Nonetheless as you request expect, you will hear a lot of criticism over the course of the day, much of it from republicans saying this is effectively a jobkilling proposal to make the u. S. Less competitive on the global scale, saying countries like china, india, china being the Worlds Largest polluter are not making the same sacrifices and puts us at a disadvantage going forward, chuck. Peter alexander, that has been part of the debate, frankly, that goes back to the Kyoto Protocols that the United States did not sign on to a couple decades ago. Peter alexander, i will let you get back to work. Thank you. Let me bring in lea stokes. Dr. Stokes, let me start the question this way, can you quantify i know my producers and i were trying to get you to do this, can you quantify what was lost the last four years by us simply disengaging on the Climate Issue around the world . Well, the thing about Climate Change is we have to make progress all the time. When it comes to cutting emissions by 50 by 2030, everybody evolution matters. So we lost time over the last four years. Of course, President Trump tried to roll back significant environmental laws but overall the Biden Administration has been very focused on restoring the environmental laws in this country and enforcing them once again. Although we might have lost time, over the last four years weve also gained something really big, which is a climate movement, powered particularly by young people that is convincing the American Public this is a massive issue and we do need to really act on it. Its interesting, were going to share some data weve been putting together for this sundays meet the press on that very issue how a public concern about climate has gone up pretty much across the board. Over the last decade, more people understand it and see it. But most people though still dont see it impacting their daytoday lives. How can you tell somebody right now how Climate Change is impacting their daytoday lives . I think what we can talk about is the opportunity that is presented with a policy like the american jobs plan. The director of the National Economic council has said that the idea here is to make this tangible for people. If the american jobs plan, you know, invests in jobs across this country, gets through the lead pipes, cleans up the air, americans will feel how this plan is affecting their daily lives. That is really the vision, whether its passing a Clean Electricity standard which cleans up our Electricity System or passing systems that provide rebates for everyday homeowners to retrofit their homes and put in heat pumps, put in induction stoves. That is really the plan. Let make this tangible. Lets create jobs. And lets help americans sort of get on the Clean Energy Future. I understand leading with the benefits. I think thats a way to get more people to understand why they do it. I want to go back to sort of give me your scientific answer how would you explain to somebody, you may not see the daytoday impact, but heres how it could impact your life if youre too slow in responding, your daytoday life. The cost of what goes up . The ability to live where you want to live gets certainly changes. What else would you tell somebody . The fact this isnt an academic idea. Its lived. I live in california where weve seen absolutely terrible wildfires, historic drought, extreme heat waves. Where i live in santa barbara, we are overwhelmed by 2 degrees chelios, way more than the global average. We experience hurricanes, heat waves around the world. I will tell you its not just Carbon Pollution but also particulate matter. Other deadly toxins like mercury. For communities of color who are on the front lines every day of that pollution, i dont need to explain it to them. They see it in increased asthma rates. Black children has asthma rates two times as high as white children. The cost of inaction and the cost of continuing to burn dirty fossil fuels is affecting everyday american lives, whether thats true direct Air Pollution or devastating impact of Climate Change on everything from fire, hurricanes, heat waves and drought. The president s pledge to cut our Carbon Emissions in half by 2030, we have the technology to make that happen now or are there going to be some things to hit those targets . The 50 target is a really bold target. You will see it with more in canada, japan or many other countries around the world. To get to that target, one of the most important things we need is for the american jobs plan to pass, which includes a Clean Electricity standard. What is that . Its basically a requirement we clean up our Electricity System and start having more clean power. If we pass the Clean Electricity standard, you would actually get us halfway to the 50 cut the Biden Administration put out today. Cleaning up the Electricity System. We have all of the technologies we need to get through 40 clean power today to 80 clean power in 2030. We also have technologies to do it in the transportation sector. I currently own an electric vehicle. I will tell you, its a great car and it is available. You can buy it. What we need for congress is to make it more affordable for Everyday Americans to get that. Same thing when it comes to heating our homes. Get induction pumps and heat pumps. Thats what the american jobs plan is all about. It will employ people. Guess what, if you want to retrofit a home, you want to change whats burning in your house, you cant take that job overseas. That has to be done in the United States. Were talking about creating millions of goodpaying jobs in this country while cutting pollution. A Clean Electricity standard, that is a phrase that feels like could catch fire as things move along in this debate. Dr. Leah stokes, university of santa barbara, thank you for coming on and sharing your per speculative with us. Up next water access. This is another major Climate Issue and, frankly, ability to live issue. Most americans take drinking clean water for granted. Its not as secure as you might think. Its under threat all over. Bad pipes, Climate Change, nefarious actors. And a look at the White House Press briefing where special enjoy john kerry and National Adviser Gina Mccarthy are expected to be speaking. 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Nbcs chief Environmental Affairs correspondent Anne Thompson joins this weeks episode of our meet the press on peacock, where her reporting from a place where Water Scarcity is a very real thing. Reporter here where im walking was the lake that gave the county its name. Once the largest lake west of the mississippi, today its farmland as far as you can see, where rivers ran, now dust. Nasas Satellite Images show how californias Ground Water Supply was depleted from 2002 to 2014. In the Central Valley, which provides a quarter of the nations food, experts say agriculture is pumping so much ground water, the land is actually sinking. Damaging infrastructure, even reducing the flow in canals carrying water to l. A. Yet farmers like john doly are facing agonizing choices, to keep his Thirsty Walnut treats or opt for more droughttolerant pasture. You might come back to visit me this time next year, and these things may be gone. And Anne Thompson joins me now. Anne, ive been thinking about this and were trying to cover this water issue in different ways. Theres bad pipes. We have obviously environmental racism issues that deal with this, inequality issues. On this climate front, which is huge limb pacting particularly where you were in california there and that tremendous visual to see the disappearing lake, what is more likely that we can sort of get enough water and restore that area, or is it eventually some of that farmland going to have to essentially move, were with not going to be able to farm in essentially what i know some people call the salad bowl of america . I think what most likely will happen is theyre just going to have to choose to grow different types of product, go to more droughttolerant product. Its already happening in various parts of the west. There are farmers in Southwestern Colorado who have gone to growing hemp because its more drought tolerant than growing vegetables and thats the real issue. Chuck, you can see how it all connects. If you look at california and what it is now facing, it didnt get enough rain and snow during the winter and that means its lakes and reservoirs are not full. A lot of them are at 50 . That puts more pressure on groundwater pumping. And because theyre pulling all of that water out of the ground, theyre having to go deeper to find it, the land is sinking and thats hurting the infrastructure. The story of the disappearing lake, how much of that you know, there are stories like that near i know theres another one thats fairly infamous in georgia. Is it all from just pumping out water over the decades . In the case of tou larry lake, the lake where i was walking, whats happened there is its the result of diverting the water away from the bake, lake, and thats delayed the water and built it up. The problem is, you destroyed a lake. Its gone between wet and dry the last 100 years but the nail in the coffin was building a dam in the late 50s and since then, its been pretty much farmland. The other aspect of this, the more you dig into these Climate Issues on water, is how manmade so many of these problems are and how many Unintended Consequences perhaps folks who thought they had good ideas 50 years ago created for us today. Anne thompson on top of the story. Anne, it was great to work with you on this one. You can see more of annes reporting tonight on meet the press reports, where every week we take a deep dive into one issue. This week it is water and climate security. This episode premieres tonight at 8 00 news eastern on nbc news now and you can watch it any time you want on demand on peacock starting friday. Up next one on one with a new democratic senator, alex padilla of california, bidens infrastructure push, antiasian hate movement and a lot more. The thing about freedom is. Freedom has no limits. 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Its vague how to pay for it but unlike the biden plan, will not make any changes to the trumpera tax laws. The white house sent their framework today to see if it can be a Jumping Off Point for negotiations. We see this as an offer that is on the table and deserves a response and i think we will get a response. We look forward to that and were ready to get it work. Joining me now is one of the newest senators in the u. S. Senate, democrat from california, alex padilla. Senator padilla, welcome to the show. Let me ask you about the counterproposal there. You heard senator capito say, hey, she thinks it deserves a response and serious consideration. Where are you on their proposal . Good to be back with you, chuck. Look, heres my response, we just saw this playbook a couple months ago when President Biden proposed a very ambitious, comprehensive American Rescue plan. The only counterproposal that came from republicans is a small fraction of the Dollar Amount which we know is so urgently needed to respond to the covid19 pandemic. Now we are seeing it to play out in this infrastructure negotiation. I think President Biden proposal is exactly the type of bold action we need and its beyond disappointing to see its a much smaller price tag reasons are countering with. The whole proposal is less than just the Transportation Element of the biden proposal. If its a Jumping Off Point, we need big Leaps And Bounds from where they are if were going to meet the demands of our infrastructure and put our country in a position to be much more competitive in the years ahead. Is there a part of you that says, all right, this is what youre willing to spend money on, these categories. We agree with these categories. Is It Worth Negotiating with them on the price for these categories, come to an agreement there or maybe go it alone on some of the other items in the bill or some that other people say is an infrastructure . I think theres a fairly robust intellectual argument in favor, yes, elder care can be part of americas infrastructure, but i understand the debate on that. Do you take do you say, okay, lets negotiate those elements and here work on the childhood tax credit, elder care, things like that . That might be the route thats very helpful in this process, the ruling from the Senate Parliamentarian thats already made and already public. Thats push comes to shove. Democrats can once again, just like we do with the American Rescue plan, act on a 50plus one vote basis to get this done. But well let the effort of bipartisanship continue just a little bit more, have a couple of weeks to see how genuine they are. Sort of being bold as we want to be. If not, well go it alone. If they are, even multiple packages, as long as it gets done. Im definitely in the camp of a much bigger dollar to be invested in our nations infrastructure but just addressing the maintenance across the country isnt sufficient. We have an opportunity that we have to take a bite out of Climate Change, for example. As the president has been saying, putting our infrastructure in a place to make sure america is competitive in a Global Economy for many years to come. You know, in your inaugural speech in the senate, you called for getting rid of the filibuster. Youve been there three months now. Has anyone made an argument to you about keeping the filibuster or keeping some form of it intact that you have found to be Semi Compelling . Nothing that i have found to be remotely compelling for keeping the filibuster. I think the last straw i and others are waiting to see is whether its an Infrastructure Proposal that should be bipartisan that is desperately needed for the country, or maybe the fundamental protection of our Voting Rights or common sense gun safety or immigration reform, once theres something that is a casualty on the floor of the senate because of the filibuster, i think that might be the last straw to eliminate it, or at least reform it so we can move on to the peoples business. We will see when that first big test comes. I hope its sooner rather than later because the items on the agenda, its a long list of what we need to do. Its interesting one of the bill thats could have been that straw that you talk about is the bill that a a bipartisan bill that looks like it will get through the senate today, focused on hate crimes particularly in the wake of covid, particularly the hate attacks on Asian Americans in this country. Look, senator, this is one of those rare instances where they said my goodness, this is a bipartisan deal that is going to get signed into law. Do you think it can create a habit, or is this a oneoff . You know, we hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I hope this is a trend. As you mentioned, one of the newest senators was sworn in on january 20th, just hours after the inauguration of President Biden and Vice President harris. One of the welcome surprises of this earlier days in the senate was the number of colleagues on both sides of the aisle coming up to say congratulations, welcome. Look forward to working with you. It played out a little bit, not nearly enough when it came to the impeachment trial, did not play out when it came to the American Rescue plan. All eyes are now on how these negotiations about an Infrastructure Package move along. But im still waiting to see it. Still waiting to see it. In the meantime, people are hurting across america. Thats why we acted with such bold and urgentsy with the American Rescue plan. When it comes to hate crimes, california is not just the most populous state in the nation, were the most diverse state in the nation. The africanamerican community, latino community, most recently Asian American community is too often the victim of hate crimes. It requires a Swift Response and to get tied up in Senate Tradition or senate rules is not acceptable. So we need to find ways to work on a bipartisan basis sooner rather than later or get rid of the filibuster and lets get the job done. Senator alex padilla, democrat from california, icali. I was glad to have you on here for the first time interviewing you as the senator, and i look forwarde more accessible by making it more affordable, thats why were keeping our tuition the same through the year 2021. I knew snhu was the place for me when i saw how affordable it was. I ran to my husband with my computer and i said, look, we can do this. 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It seems to be chaired by Speaker Pelosi who is very eager to have a Bipartisan Commission here in the sense of wanting a document of commonality where the two sides can agree on what happened so that they arent just talking past each other so they can kind of have a basis upon which the discover the s e and what can be done about it. That can also debunk Conspiracy Theories that have taken old in all that. Mccarthy has said they want to expand the scope of violence that occurred last year, particularly in the wake of the killing of george floyd. Its not clear whats going to happen next, because Kevin Mccarthy said he didnt get an offer from pelosi and he sounded really skeptical on whether this would ultimately happen with this commission. Sahil, we have the vote happening now in the house in the hate crimes legislation. And, again, its so rare these days that something passes with bipartisan support, and in some ways it looked like republicans were this is not one Mitch Mcconnell wanted to see get filibustered for fear it could actually trigger the filibuster fight again. Right, chuck. Its remarkable to watch. This is how the senate was designed to function. They got on a bill without a outcome. There was a vote between the republicans and the democrats and they appeared to land on an outcome that the substitute was approved by unanimous consent in the senate moments ago and now theyre voting on final passage. It expected, according to my sources, to pass with a fairly resounding vote. The big question, chuck, you just asked it, as to whether this could be replicated on other issues. That remains to be seen. Things like police reform, minimum wage, gun reform. Its unclear if this would apply to other issues. Sahil kapur on the hill for us. Sahil, thank you. Thank you all for being with us this hour. 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