Derek chauvins Loved Ones can still see him even if just in prison. And as a society, we are still fund. Ally broken in so many ways. Our policing system, broken. Socially and politically, were still reeling despite the profound relief so many people felt maybe even just for an hour yesterday. As people not just in Minneapolis But Coast to coast took in the news with tears of joy, relief, taking to the streets and reflecting on what comes next. This is something beautiful. This is something different. Finally. Some little piece of justice. I cried tears of joy. Tears of joy. This was such a moment of vindication of the community getting what it needs. Im glad that it was a guilty verdict on all counts. It doesnt bring George Floyd back. It doesnt change the outcomes or the way that the system is built and operates. The fact remains this guilty verdict is just one truly rare example of accountability for a Police Officer in the eyes of justice. As was this, the now convicted Murderer Derek Chauvin being led out of court in handcuffs. And he is now a murderer. And seen as such in the full light of day as President Biden noted Last Night. But true justice requires more than that, right . It requires that going forward black and other nonwhite people be treated as Human Beings by Law Enforcement as Vice President harris made clear in her statement yesterday. And today the biden administration took a major step towards real systemic change. The Justice Department launched a investigation of the Minneapolis Police department. The Attorney General said that moving forward the department would be unwavering in its pursuit of Equal Justice under law. The challenges we face are deeply woven into our history. They did not arise today or last year. Building trust between community and Law Enforcement will take time and effort by All Of Us. But we undertake this Tass Wk the Determination And Urgency knowing that change cannot wait. The announcement comes with amid new calls to pass tangible Police Reform in congress. The bill passed in George Floyds name, the justice in policing 5 00. To make good on a pledge from President Biden to the Floyd Family Last Night and with me now our philonise floyd, George Floyds brother and the family attorney. Thank you for being here. I want to start with you, philonise. There are really moving great pictures that i saw on rev Sharptons Instagram of the family celebrating together when you all first heard the verdict, guilty read three times by the judge. Can you just give us a sense of how you felt in those moments watching that verdict being read if you dont mind . It was i was nervous the entire time. I was pacing back and forth over and over. [ inaudible ] theyre telling me, hey look, whatever you have to do to be comfortable, just do it. If you have to pace yourself back and forth, do it. And thats what i did. But when it was time for me to go into that courtroom, i had to Take That lonely seat in the corner where only one Family Member could be there. Nobody else could be there. And i prayed the entire time. For 30 minutes. It took the jury and the judge 30 minutes to enter the room. And when the judge started reading and i heard guilty and then i heard guilty and then i heard guilty one more time, i wanted to jump up and down. But i was given the judge respect. But i was excited. I was ecstatic about everything. It felt like we won a championship. And my wife said were bringing the w back to h town, houston, texas. You know, my friend, weve been friends since 2006 is when we first met. We met on a case that also seemed like a slam dunk. Also had video. The victim was a 14yearold little boy. It didnt go the way that most people thought it should go. We can go through all of the cases that you have been involved in. And so many times you have been able to at least get some sort of remediation for the family, get the city to do something for the family. But it is so hard, as you know better than anybody, to get a verdict of guilty when its a Police Officer and a victim is black. So i have to ask you. You were in that room too. How did you feel . You know, joy, i told philonise and the family we were going to get a verdict on tuesday. And even though, i get it, history has always been very unkind to families that expect police to be forgiven for killing black people. But what i thought different about this jury is the video was a pivotal piece. But then when i heard that the 9yearold Little Girl testify court, i have an 8yearold named brooklyn and they asked him nicely to take his knee off his neck but he still didnt do it. I said, if that jury is made up of parents, theyre not going to send the message to their children that that barbaric conduct is acceptable. And thats why i had confidence that this jury is going to say no, were not going to send this message to the world. More importantly, were not going to send it to the children. And thats why this verdict is so historic and hopefully it will set a precedent. Philonise, about Someone Else, you know, if that 9yearold has a cousin named Darnella Frasier taking her to buy treats at that store where your brother had also just shopped and we have seen video of him happy, shopping before what happened to him. And her name is Darnella Frasier. I want to read her reaction. I just cried so hard. The last hour my heart was beating so fast. I was anxious. Anxiety, busting through the roof. But to know guilty on all three charged, thank god. Thank you, thank you, thank you. George floyd, we did it. Justice has been served. And she was so emotional throughout her testimony literally saying she was so sorry that she couldnt save him as if she was she was just a child, she couldnt have done anything. Do you have a message for darnella . You know, theres no way that i can repay her. But i can honestly tell her that she changed the world just like she said they were going to change the world. God put people in place at certain times, to sit there and do the duty that he wanted them to do. And she was the one who recorded and sent a picture who set the world on fire. People protest because of that video. And they see that officers need to be held accountable and now you have a George Floyd Policing Act that were trying to push forward for people like darnella and her little cousin, a 9yearold child. They were minors at the time. This they both, and i hope not, but i know they may suffer from ptsd now. Because thats seered in their mind for life. They watched a grown man being tortured to death. She said that could have been my father, my brother, my uncle, my cousin or any one of my friends. And that was devastating to america to see two minors have to go through those type things. Yeah. And philonise, first of all, you look so much like george, your brother. Just seeing you, it almost feels like we can talk to him in a way. Or hes talking through you. You all look so much alike. You could have been twins. But i want to give you the opportunity since you have the camera now, were going to have a member of congress on who spearheading getting the George Floyd act passed. To any republicans or any even democrats who may doubt getting on the bill in the united states senate, you have a message for them . Hey, we all have to stand together and work together. It doesnt matter if youre a republican or a democrat, i tell you one thing. Ive been black my entire life. And ive been pulled over before. And the difference is my father told me a long time ago, son, make sure you let all the windows down. Dont matter if youre a republican or if youre a democrat, those are the rules that they are made for you. Because caucasian people dont have to do anything like that. They dont have to talk to their kids about that. They can tell them, hey, can you go offside. You can do whatever you want. But we cant do those type of things. So accountability for it for what happened is big to the africanamerican community. People of color, period. Justice will be served. And accountability has been served. And, you know, ben, there are three more cases the world has to go through. There are three more officers that were involved. It wasnt just Derek Chauvin. You are ready for this . Is the family ready to go another round here in august . The family is steadfast, joy. And i believe that they may possibly be some clear great men because they saw what just happened to Derek Chauvin. But we hope this is just as important as chauvins trial. It sends the message to police that you Cant Witness Injustice and think that you will have your hands washed of the blood. So they should have those officers held accountable to send a message to others. How often have they told people in our community, when you see a crime, when you see something unjust happen, we want you to tell us. We want you to talk. Well, police, you all are behind the blue wall of silence. Show us how its done. You tell the truth when you see officers do bad things to black people. Wouldnt that be a great example for america . Yeah. And philonise, you know, one thing about the trial and you sat in that room every day, was just how, you know, we cant get inside Someones Head or inside their heart. But how icy Derek Chauvin was. Just icy as his face looked on that horrifying 9 29, you know, we saw 8 46 of that video of him killing your brother. Do you expect that when he is sentenced that hell finally say something to your family . I dont know if he if there has been any message from him to your family yet. Any message of regret . Anything . Do you expect to hear that at some point . Do you want to hear it . You know, i can forgive anybody for anything. But what is going on is he had no remorse. He never apologized. The time that he had his knee on my Brothers Neck for 9 29, he looked kind of demonic to me. The way he had his hands in his Pocket And Smirk on his face. Anybody that can do something like that, seriously has to have mental problems. Something is going on upstairs. Look, life is precious. People are sworn to serve and protect. But instead he killed an individual who could have been home with me today. Home with his daughter. Speaking to her and playing with her. She has to live without her father for the rest of her life. You are going to are you planning on going to the sentencing . Attending it . Absolutely. Yes. Yes, maam. Yes, maam. And what do you think what do you think the stencil look like . What are you hoping for here . Well, obviously, he was a first time offender because he was a Police Officer. He never committed a crime. So theyre going to try to slap him on the wrist. But the Attorney General for the state of minnesota has talked to us continuously. He is going to say there should be an departure because of extenuating circumstances. The crime was committed in front of children. Two, he had a duty to provide service. And three, he was a public official involved in a criminal activity. So all those are enhancers. I believe hell get 20 plus years. Well see. Well see if there are trials and there might pleas. Philonise floyd, we love to see you. It does give us a sense of what George Floyd might have been like. You really could have been twins. I love to see you. Im glad to see you had a moment when at least you could feel some measure of justice. Please tell his daughter that there are a lot of people thinking about her. A lot of people care about her. And so you guys have an extended family here at any time. Ben, you know youre already family. So i appreciate both of you. Thank you. Thank you. Wasnt Last Night special . Wasnt Last Night special . You hugged your children a little tighter Last Night snt. I hugged them ever since this happened, my friend. You know, i have always been a little bit paranoid. You know, ill be honest. Look, im a person that fears police myself. You know, as much ive been able to accomplish in the world, im afraid of them. I have family that are police. And i think Last Night is the first time that we could not hold our breath for just a little while. And so i think for everybody, people felt that way. Tears of relief and tears of joy. I dont know what it was, but it was tears. Thank you very much for being here this Evening And Sharing with us. Thank you both. Up next on the reid out, Police Violence . Its not just a few bad apples. There is something deeply wrong with the amount of Deadly Force being used by police in america. About it do lawmakers have the courage to do something about it . Plus tonights absolute worst. The rightwing freakout over the Chauvin Verdict. 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This is a 16yearold girl looking very much like 16yearolds do doing her hair in the tutorial she once posted on tiktok like this one that is sent to tiller just another interlude. Look ago dorable. Exhibiting youth and joy. And we wish her tiktoks were the reason why she has risen to prominence. But instead, its the other video that were about to show you. The Body Camera Video showing her shot and killed by Police Officers in columbus, ohio. Minutes before a guilty verdict was announced in the Murder Trial of Derek Chauvin. Now warning, it is disturbing. Were going to freeze the video before the shots are fired. Here it is. Whats going on . Hey. Hey. Get down get down get down the Columbus Police held a News Conference Today where they played two 911 calls. They do not share who made the calls. Bribt threatened to girls with a knife. The Police Chief was then asked about one of the underlying issues of Police Reform, the use of Deadly Force. To what degree should an Officer Opt to use a taser rather than a service sfwhp. I cannot respond specifically to this specific incident. But what i can say is when officers are faced with someone employing Deadly Force, Deadly Force can be the response the officer gives. If there is not Deadly Force being perpetrated on Someone Else at that time, an officer may have the opportunity to have cover, distance and time to use a taser. But if those things arent present, and there is an active assault going on in which someone could lose their life, the officer can use their firearm to protect that third person. Im joined by San Francisco District Attorney and Lieutenant Cheryl Orange of the metropolitan police department. Am thank you both for being here. Lieutenant orange, you know, my assumption is this officer is going to be cleared. Right . This is going to go down the way most of these shooting cases go down. Because police have tremendous latitude to use Deadly Force. Fine. But the problem is that at this Point Everything police say to me is just a claim. That needs to be proven. Even if theres lets just full accounting. They wont tell White House made the 911 call. Neighbors say that the Little Girl made the 911 call. Theyre not being fully transparent here. Thats why its very difficult to trust what theyre saying. So as you look at the circumstances of this, can you just walk us through how police should act in a case like this . Because, you know, i was saying on my instagram earlier, i remember fights in even High School or even younger than that where a kid brought a Pen Knife or something to school and teachers were able to diffuse that and they didnt have guns. So what do you make of what, 10, 20 seconds this officer had before he opened fire on this Little Girl . Yes, joy. Well, first of all, the most important thing that we got to recognize is that 15yearold girl lost her life. And that is very tragic. One of the things that as Police Officers that we many you have is, Number One, is empathy and compassion. And to do that, you have to understand, first of all, what youre dealing with. And im hearing it was the Police Chief that said in many cases when you have Deadly Force that as Law Enforcement officers, we can legally use Deadly Force. But were talking about a child here that was involved in an altercation with Someone Else. And, yes, i believe there was a weapon. Now i could not see how the young lady was using the weapon. I cant really speak to. That but the main thing is that as Law Enforcement officers, its our job to make an assessment and then make a decision. But at the end of the day, were talking about a sayearold girl that has lost her life tragically. Now could something else have been done . Its a possibility. But that speaks to each individual officer and how they assess that situation. Before i bring in the da, im sorry this is one i want to use from my team. Somebody, one of the officers who responded to the scene had on a blue Lives Matter facemask. Social media has shown videos of people yelling at somebody who yells blue Lives Matter. We dont know if it is one of the police. If cops are showing up to the scene of a shooting of somebody and there is a, you know, people in pink jump suits running around and teenage girls running around and your response to that given the sensitivities on the day of the George Floyd verdict is wearing blue Lives Matter, what does that say . Yes, maam. To me that personally is very disrespectful and unprofessional. Because you need to be, again, like i said earlier, you need to show some kind of empathy and to actually use empathy you have to have understanding. You have to have some knowledge. To me that, is really insensitive. Its like right out in your face. You talk about black Lives Matter, blue Lives Matter also. But what about people like myself who both Black And Blue . Right. Thats a very good point. I want to bring you in. Thank you for being here. You are doing some things that are a bit different in the twha youre trying to sort of operate the sort of Police Justice System that does work in tandem. First thing i want to talk about is when police shootings happen, journalists generally send to rely on the statement thats come out of Police Departments. Weve seen in multiple case thats is not a good idea. Because were not necessarily getting the truth. In the walter scott case, this is in south carolina. Police allege that there was a struggle. That the Man Man gained control of the taser. The officer used his service weapon. That was a lie. It turns out because there was a person that had a camera that showed on video that actually that was not true. We saw the same thing happen with George Floyd. Police put out an official statement, the suspect needed to get in handcuffs. He had a medical distress situation. Lie. We now have seen that happen multiple times. We cannot necessarily trust the statements that come out of Law Enforcement when we see incidents happen. There is that. Then when people like yourself try to sort of change the way were doing it, okay, well take police out of the situations. We wont have them arrest people for having weed. We wont have people arrest, you know, arrest people for prostitution and other crimes. Let me show you a couple headlines about you. The thing called Law Enforcement today called you the son of Cop Killers and, you know, went after you and really nasty terms. Simply because you had eased a policy on police stops. So theyre mad at you and put thought to Law Enforcement that theyre reading about it. So there is a not being honest with the public piece. And then there is being hostile to people like that you try to change things peace. So what do we do about that . Joy, thanks for having me on. Thanks for covering such critical issues to public safety and public trust in Law Enforcement. And in San Francisco, were working every day to restore the trust that communities, especially communities of color have in Law Enforcement. We know we cant build public safety. If we continue to have unnecessary loss of life at the hands of police. And so im really proud of the work were doing in San Francisco. I have a dedicated unit that shows up to the scene of any officer involved shooting. And we take the lead on investigating what happened and whether or not we should file criminal charges. Last year i implemented a policy, treating victims of Police Violence. We provide them with the same services and the same benefits. And im proud that we also sponsor a State Law that would make my local policy effective all across the state of california. We have a long way to go. And the Verdict Yesterday in the George Floyd trial, one case. That was an aberration. That was an anomaly. We have these kind of cases happening every day. It is really rare that there is a political courage or the evidence or the expertise or Police Chief willing to get on the stand and testify against one of his own. We need to remember that since George Floyds trial started, since the evidence was first presented to that jury, we had more than 60 people across the country killed at the hands of Law Enforcement. Most of those cases will never result in a criminal charge or trial. We have to do a lot of work to change the culture. Before i let you go, my last question to you. Do you think the police are gaining revenue for cities by pulling people over and so theyre targeting community thats basically cannot fight back. Poor communities. Communities of Color And Police maybe shouldnt be doing that kind of policing that generates money for the City S that part of the issue, do you think . There is definitely financial interest. You look at the Role Police unions play in a lot of the policies and protect i think a lot of bad actors. This is the issue i know policing is really pro active on. We need to speak out and denounce misconduct and criminal activity even if its among our own colleagues or within our ranks. It is essential. To the Wellbeing And Safety of all the officers doing a good job that we hold those accountable that violate our trust. Indeed. Well have you back. We want to have more of a discussion on this. Thank you both very much. Moment of truth on capitol hill. Can democrats use the Chauvin Verdict to build support for the George Floyd justice and Policing Act . Or will conservatives use it as an argument against meaningful reform . Well be back after this. Nst Mel Reform well be back after this cell phone repair. Did you know Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . Just get a quote at libertymutual. Com. Really . Ill check that out. Oh yeah. 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Tim scott of south carolina, The Lone Black Republican senator has been open to reintroducing a competing piece of legislation which among other things would encourage Police Departments to end choke holds and no Knock Warrants but not ban them. Scott is negotiating with Karen Bass, the original author of the House Bill in the wake of the Verdict Senator Scott sounded a public note of optimism. I think were on the verge of wrapping this up in the next week or two depending on how quickly they respond to our suggestions. Privately, senior democratic and republican aids are telling axios that the Chauvin Verdict reduces pressure on congress to deliver on Police Reform. With me now is congresswoman Karen Bass of california. Thats my first question for you. Thank you for being here. Is that true . That the fact there was a guilty verdict makes it less likely that these will get through . That is absolutely false. It is the exact opposite. Yesterday was a hopeful day. But, joy, as you know, it was an important first step. We have to have the sentencing now. I think it created tremendous Energy And Hope and momentum and i do agree with Senator Scott. We need to wrap this up. And youre working with Senator Scott who, you know, he has his own interesting storey. I remember going to a talk he did at georgetown where he talked about being stopped by police as a black man. Hes been through this himself as a black man. He would know. How sincere do you think he is in not only being wanting this bill to get through but also in being able to deliver the ten republican votes that he would need . The last time his version of the bill failed to get closure, went down 55 to 45, do you think he can deliver the ten votes . I do. I mean, i think that hes been an honest broker throughout this process. I think hes very sincere. And, yes, he does have his own personal story. I dont know too many black people, men or women, who dont have their own personal story. Ill tell you one part of his personal story is just recently being stopped by the capitol police. He had his Senate Pin on. They asked for his drivers license. And that wasnt that long ago. And so everybody has their personal stories. For me this is very personal. I think all of that is going to help us get it across the finish line. But lets talk about the differences in the bills. The fear that a lot of people have is a Compromise Bill Wont yale do much, right . You know, the original bill that passed through the house would ban choke holds and ban no Knock Warrants. Did a lot of stuff that is really important to people. Are we looking at having to give that up and still allow police to be able to do what they did to breonna taylor, to do no Knock Warrants, to choke people out like they did with George Floyd . I think its really critical. Were not talking about indow dressing. Were talking about substantive legislation. I think its accurate to say we have discussions. We do not have formal negotiations which would have to be designated and appointed by leadership. I think there is enough common ground. When were talking about a bill, were not talking about the Justice Act which was Senator Scotts bill. There are elements in that bill that you know were similar. But we are talking about legislation that has teeth in it and holding Police Accountable is absolutely critical. I mean, Derek Chauvin didnt think anybody was going to hold him accountable. Thats yes was looking at the camera and doing what he was doing. And that has to end. And so i dont know if you have had conversations with the Floyd Family. Philonise floyd was on earlier on the show. He is very much interested in being the advocacy for the bill. Have you had conversations with the family . I have not had direct conversations, not recently. To me, i havent really wanted to talk to them about the bill. I feel like, you know, the centerpiece was the trial and then just their grieving process. But i am absolutely ready, willing, and able to involve them never kind of way. We never get to do good news on the show. So i want you to maybe if you visit, give me some. Do you think that we could in theory have a George Floyd Policing Act, a Justice Bill before the anniversary of his murder . Yes. There is no reason for us not to. You know, we introduced this bill almost a year ago. And so its time to act. And how much more do we need . And what im worried about, joy, because you know the way this works. The energy is there now. There could be a Hurricane Or Something tomorrow. That completely shifts the agenda. And so we absolutely have to act now. I think people demanded it. I think thats why people voted for us. And so we have to deliver. I got to ask you about the confirmation for the Justice Department number three despite a lot of Opposition And Kristen clark who is phenomenal as well. What will be the change here . 5149 vote. What do you think theyll be able to accomplish and change at justice thats important . I think its just going to be amazing. I have worked with these two women who i believe are phenomenal. And they are going to make a big difference between them and the Number One thing that needs to happen is the rebuilding of the department of justice. So that it is a Justice Department that works for america and not a Justice Department that works for an individual. And i think they will lead the way. They will restore the civil rights teeth in the department of justice. Congresswoman Karen Bass, can you keep us up to date, please with, what is going on with this bill . A lot of interest. The please keep in touch with the show. Thank you very much. Absolutely. Have a great evening. Up next, im shocked. Just shocked, i say, to find the rightwing freaking out over the Chauvin Verdict. No, really. Totally astounded. Down right flabbergasted. 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People stayed in and were scared to go out. Because of fear of riots. Police are everywhere. Have riot gear. Blm, strongest Terrorist Threat to our country. The actual residents of washington, d. C. , called her out for her deception. Including journalists who accurately reported it was a completely normal night. People were walking dogs, parks were full and restaurants were busy. Then there was former Trump Press Secretary who criticized Joe Biden for the comments he made about the trial after the jury had already been sequestered. Here was her unsolicited advice to the president yesterday. There is so much hurt, so much pain and i think its the role of the president of the united states to stay back, to not enflame the tension. Touch a Tinder Box moment. He should have reserved comment and said hes playing for the family. Preserve comment . Her former boss literally gave a Running Commentary on active cases and judges, attacking judges, jurors, and prosecutors and tried to intervene in the Krint Proceedings against his friends. He interfered so much with the Justice Department that his own Attorney General effectively told him to shut up. The worst reaction came from Tucker Carlson who suggested that the only reason the jury rendered a guilty verdict is because they were too intimidated to do otherwise. The jury in the Derek Chauvin trial came to a unanimous and Unhe Quifically verdict this afternoon. Please dont hurt us. Everyone understand perfectly well the consequences of an acquittal in this case after a nearly year of burning, Looter And Murder by blm that was never in doubt. That is insulting the intelligence of the jury he is propagating the myth that racial justice is something to be terrified of. And the black Lives Matter protests, by the way, have been overwhelm will go nonviolent. 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The narrative as we saw from Microwave Guy Tucker karlsson is that jury was bullied into convicting Derek Chauvin despite all that evidence. And when a former new York Deputy sheriff challenged that ridiculous narrative, chauvin was rightfully convicted as ten cops testified against him. Tucker just lost it. It was an open and shut case. But moving forward, we need to do in my opinion, as we need to have how about enforce the law . Hold on. Wait. Slow down. Do we enforce the law . Like lets say people are going through the windows in macys and cops are standing there. When the do they start doing something about it and protecting everyone else, not just George Floyd . No. I want people to protect i want the police to protect people. But when specifically what were dealing with here, were dealing with a person in custody handcuffed and subdued. I just think that was excessive. Yeah, well, it happened. The guy that did the looks like hes going to spend the rest of his life in prison. Im more worried about the rest of the country which, thanks to Police Enaction in case you didnt know is boarded up. Thats more my concern. But i appreciate you coming on. Thank you. Nope. Done. Thank you. Joining me now is former House Oversight Committee spokesman and former Executive Director and counsel of the congressional black caucus. My first question, Is Tucker okay . He sounded like the joker. He just did a joker laugh. Like hes a maniac. Maybe we should hide your kisdz and wife, be careful if tucker is in your neighborhood. Kurt, Florida Republican Congressman Joe Walsh tweeted On Tucker after a murder conviction, he says i have A Million followers on facebook. Most are supporters of trump. Virtually all of them Last Night echo his Take That jury was bullied into that verdict. It was mob justice. What is going on in your former party, kurt . Well, joy, were seeing once again its almost a wash, rinse, repeat of what we saw from john 6th. Rather than call it for what it is, let our eyes and ears and brains and judgement do the work. Theyre rewriting history. Theyre now inventing this scenario in which these jurors who are sequestered as you noted earlier are intimidated into a unanimous guilty verdict. It cant possibly be that the jurors watched the 9 1 2 minutes there and came to the conclusion that this guy was murdered by Police Officers. That cant possibly be. Theyre afraid of All Of Us out here calling for Equal Justice. Its exactly what they did with january 6th. It wasnt trump supporters. No, it was black Lives Matter. It was people disguised as trump supporters. The nonsense that people like Tucker Carlson spews every day, its a constant effort to have their voters be completely detached from reality and not trust their senses. Not trust their eyes. Not trust the ears. And instead believe the alternate realities. The thing is, afrpg la, the black Lives Matter, the violence that black Lives Matter protest has been against black Lives Matter. Heather hire was a black Lives Matter advocate run down by a car in charlottesville. The people people that were killed were black Lives Matter advocates and happened to be white. This is the governor of florida. Listen to him. I dont know what happened with this verdict. But if Thats Something that can potentially happen where you have justice meated out because the jury is scared of what a mob may do. Again, im not saying thats what happened here. But certainly to think that somehow that is going to influence how the rule of laws apply would be a total disaster if that idea takes hold. Now thats a governor joining in that as well. Your thoughts . You know, joy, im so tempted to engage in poking fun much these folks. But the platforms they have, the influence they have not just over public discourse, but over the law, over the minds of people if we talk about Tucker Carlson and talking about the Jury Verdict was basically please dont hurt us, the Jury Verdict is exactly that. But the please dont hurt us is different from what he alleges, right . The police dont hurt us is about Everybody Black Body that has been taken at the hands of Police Violence year after year after year where theres been no video. I said earlier you have to wonder for all of the times that we have said i cant breathe, why this one mattered. And to me, joy, you know, ive just been thinking about it all day. Is it that nine Minutes Anything that exceeds nine minutes is all of a sudden brutal enough . Terrorist enough . Violent enough to deem us worthy of saving . Right . Is that what it really takes. And so what i would challenge Joe Walsh who has been challenged by me once again, ill challenge him again since he wants to duel, to think about what it means to have a sliding scale on how Someones Life matters and at what cost. For Tucker Carlson, i challenge him to look at the facts as You Pounted out just momented ago, joy, about what black Lives Matter actually stands for. So while they are poopooing this verdict, you know as a black woman in this country, we can hardly celebrate the verdict because bryant was killed. Because and she is 16 years old with four shots in her chest. When shes the one that needed saving. Calling the police for salvation only to find salvation evaded once again. You think about yesterday in knox county. Im sorry, anthony Thompson Jr. Has no charges filed against the officers who killed him inside of a school 17 years old. You think about ten days ago, daunte wigt. Is this even enough . Does it even address all of the pain that black people have experienced in this country for too long and other people of color . Adam toledo. Like what else needs to happen for us to not make fun of the fact that the Justice System for once finally held an Officer Accountable . We have to be more responsible with our speech. We have to be more aware. To see somebody like the speaker On Tv talking about Joe Biden using his words irresponsibly, you are kidding me . Im not going to cuss on msnbc. But you are kidding me . Do you not know who you just worked for . Right . We have to be a lot more accountable. Im trying to be more cautious, right, in what im saying. Im triggered sitting here. Like i dont know. I dont know what it will take for folks to survive in this country. Exactly. Everyone is so triggered at this point as well. I mean, literally you have somebody who hosts the most Popular Show On Fox right now in terms the ratings, kurt, using his platform to laugh like a maniac in the sense of a 9 1 2 minute murder. He thinks thats hysterically funny and what he really wants to talk about is why cant you police the black people harder . You have in multiple states people like the governor of florida Passing Laws to let police run protesters over with their cars. Be more violent towards the protesters as well. Very quickly, are we going to get to the point where people on the right, kurt, are lionizing . Is that what is going to happen . The way they did with George Zimmerman . Do we have to brace ourselves for that . I think that what weve seen, joy, is there is no low that is too low for these people to go to. And thats exactly what theyre going to continue to do. I hope thats not what happened. We shall she. Thank you both. That is tonights reidout. All in starts right now. Tonight on All In Yesterdays Verdict and the state Criminal Trial does not address potentially systemic policing issues in minneapolis. One day after the murder verdict, The Push For Reform grows. We still have work to do. Tonight, how Derek Chauvin got more justice than just about any american ever does. And the Renewed Push For Big Change with Senator Cory Booker and congresswoman corey bush. Then senate republicans confront reality by way of stacey abrams. Thi i