for george floyd, and while republicans are trying to distance themselves from the natives america first caucus. and is all american dots become eligible for a vaccine, it's no longer the lack of supply that will hurt us, but the hesitancy. >> the leg is, supply the shortage of locations, the confusing rules are all in the past. at one all in starts right now. good evening from new york i'm chris saves. the jury in the trial of former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin is now deliberating at this moment the city of minneapolis, the country are now are waiting a verdict. hundreds of people out protesting in the streets of minneapolis tonight. today the jury heard closing arm humans from the defense in the prosecution after three weeks of testimony from 45 witnesses. eric chauvin is of course accused of killing george floyd, the jury now tasked with reaching a verdict on those three charges against him. second degree and intentional murder, which currents a maximum sentence of 40 years, third degree murder which carries a sentence of up to 25, years and second degree manslaughter which carries the sentence of up to ten years. we sent innings guidelines for something like showman, a former police officer with no prior conviction, any sentence would likely be much less. the jury started deliberations at around 4 pm central time, today they've been going for three hours now. here's the thing about jury's, we do not know how long they take, it could be anywhere from hours to days and days and days. in 2018 it's a good jury less than eight hours to convict a former police officer of second degree murder in the death of 17 year old laquan with donald. that was a shooting video that was released belatedly by the city. now we wait. we reflect on what's been a very dramatic, tense, difficult day marking the beginning of the end of this trial. this morning that prosecution became their closing arguments was that appeal to the members of the jury which may be reluctant to convict a police officer, going out of their way to paint their case as pro police. >> imagining a police officer committing a crime, might be the most difficult thing you have to set aside, that's just not the way we think of police officers. we trust the police. we trust the police to help us, we believe the police are going to respond to our call for help, we believe there are going to listen to us. this is not an anti-police prosecution. it's a pro police prosecution. >> prosecutions core argument was whatever happened to george floyd last may, what derek chauvin did by kneeling on his neck for over nine minutes, was precisely what they saw play out on video. >> this case is exactly what you thought when you saw first. when you saw that video, it's exactly that, you can believe your eyes it's, exactly what she believed, it's exactly what you saw with your eyes, it's exactly what you knew. it's which you fell in your gut, it's what you now know and your heart. this was not policing. this was murder. >> of course this case, that video what we did all see, was particularly sadistic, and there's a reason george floyd's death, the video of it was the precipitating incident for massive protests, millions in millions of people across the united states, moving out and ripples across the country and the world. in around the world taking to the streets. in an all that set, the contours of the justification's for derek chauvin's actions, that came from his defense, today were just so similar. so recognizable to what we've heard for decades, if not longer. in the wake of incidents in which police use deadly force. focusing on anything but what actually happened, blaming the victim. >> sometimes, people take reasonable police officers, take someone into custody, with no problem, and suddenly they become a problem. it can change in an instant. the nine minutes and 29 seconds, ignores the previous 16 minutes and 59 seconds. completely disregards it. it says, in that moment, at that point, nothing else that happened before, should be taken into consideration by a reasonable police officer. it is not uncommon, for suspects to fame or pretend to have a medical emergency, to avoid being arrested. unfortunately, that is the reality. nobody likes to get arrested. in reasonable police officers know that. how many times as someone oh my heart hurts, or i'm having a medical emergency insert whatever emergency. simply because they don't want to go to jail. >> the conclusion of the closing arguments this afternoon, the defense did with defense lawyers often, do they try to get the judge to declare a mistrial. it was an interesting sort of pretext, because one of their arguments, senator around congressman maxine waters of california. in her comments over the weekend, at a protest in minnesota. when asked what protesters should do, she said we have got to stand the, street we've got to get more active, we've got to get more confrontational, we've got to make sure they know that we mean business. >> now that we have u.s. representatives, threatening acts of violence, in relation to this specific case, it's mind-boggling to me judge. >> a give you the congress room in waters may have given you something an appeal, that may result in this trial being overturned. >> excuse me? when a strange unusual statement from the. judge who went on to say that horrid elective officials were talking about the. case that we did deny the motion from his trial. -- staff writer at the new yorker, he's been in minneapolis covering the chauvin trial, he's been there for a few weeks is. latest pieces titled the shuttle dine jay wright in the meeting of george floyd's death, -- broward county in miami-dade in florida. they are both joining me now. katie, i want to start on that exchange. in the strangeness of. it and maybe it wasn't that strange, maybe those there are not in the courtroom all the time thought it was weirder than it seemed. the judge is pining about whether it was appropriate array for electric officials to talk about trial, seemed to be a self a little bit improper, you can talk about whatever you want, that's how we roll here. but what do you think of that exchange there. and did it strike you as assad? >> well, it was a lot. because judge cahill throughout the entirety of this proceedings, has been reserved. like a jury should be. and he hasn't offered any type of commentary about what's going, on like a shares should do. the context of that exchange, it is the fact that the defense has consistently been attempting to have this jury sequestered. it is asked repeatedly, it has been denied repeatedly by judge cahill. we know the jurors are not being sequester today. as they begin deliberations. however it's just another reason, under the ground for an appellate issue, that perhaps derek chauvin is going to have to be counting, on in the event he is found guilty of any one of the three offenses is currently being charged with. it was a very kind of chilling dialog to hear. grateful of course that it didn't happen in front of the jury. it would never happen in front of the jury. the jury had already been excused and taken away by the deputy to start their deliberations. but again it's the context of the idea, that this jury should never have worry heard about the daunte wright shooting. where the adam toledo shooting. or the potential for further riots and protesting. i think that's exactly what people need to realize, was the context within that dialog heard today. >> jelani i know you've been in minnesota in your back, now you've been covering this. one thing that was so striking to me watching arguments today, and obviously closing arguments is the most leeway legally, you can see the most things, but the context outside the courtroom was so present inside the courtroom. and i thought that rift by the prosecutor, this is not please this is properly, some might be hard for you, but we trust police, we trust them to do the right thing, and i'm the whole time i'm thinking that's a very specific we. you are using their, although useful in affected for that jury. >> i think some of this is a political rhetoric. and calculated. it points to a bigger dynamic, that i think is much more substantial. we have seen, in this case, police come out against eric chauvin, in a way that you almost never see in previous cases. it's been because, the outrage that the video generated. world wide outrage. of what became a national indictment on the global stage, the glow back from that was so significant, that the system itself went into self preservation mode. the city council voted to disband the police department. something that would be inconceivable otherwise, what we've seen now is opposed to the standard arguments to try to say that the person who's accused is actually innocent and that we should aside with the police officer, we have seen an effort to see that the system itself is innocent. and therefore this police officer doesn't represent some bigger systemic problem and i think that was the final statement from the closing statement, from the prosecutor. was right in line with the implications of that strategy. >> let me follow up on that then i'm gonna come back to you on the charges here. the defenses approach to this, it was also striking to me, that those arguments are arguments i've heard 100 times. in covering the aftermath of police use of force, violent shooting against civilians, that you don't understand what it's like to be in their shoes, that someone can be complain and turn around and be not comply, and they lie all the time they say they have a heart condition and they don't. it was just a full battery of stuff, that we've all heard dozens of times. >> it's true, it is. it's notable, you mentioned -- the other instance you had is the conviction of the officer in the death of walter scott, in north boston south carolina. you saw those arguments deployed, in all of those incidents, what it says is under certain circumstances, in the case of walter scott, you saw the person dropped a taser near his body, as if he was trying to freeman or set it up in a way, they made it look like his life was in jeopardy, the jury did not buy that. but the difference between this case, has always been, not the fact that a police officer made a judgment call, with the public at large segments of the public at least are very hesitant to question, but the person did something over the course of nine minutes and 29 seconds, excruciatingly long, in there's very little that she can say that with defend the idea that the entire time, he had to maintain that posture on mr. floyd's neck. >> and yet i would see katie obviously, we've talked about this throughout these weeks that we don't know what's going to happen, and we don't know a conclusion the jury will. reach and in fact, there have been examples, the rodney king trial being iconic one, where there was very obvious visual evidence, it did not lead to conviction. talk us through these three charges in what has to be found, in terms of the jury, in terms of cause, in terms of state of mind of chauvin. >> it's a really important question chris, and the reason why is we have talked about the fact that the jury instructions, that this jury has received about this causation, the idea, was that derek chauvin was the cause legally of the death of george floyd? what's important is the prosecution made it in school shooting we clear today. that derek chauvin just has to be a substantial causal factor, he does not have to be the sole factor, in the death of george floyd. and that is critical because you can look at other, things like george floyd's heart condition, in his drug use etc. you can actually consider that in the grand scheme of things, but still find chair derek chauvin all three of the charges. the second degree and intentional murder carries the idea that derek chauvin was considering a felony assault at the time that he killed george floyd. and that is exactly why intent is not necessary. the assault itself, the felony itself, third-degree murder the idea that there was an act that was intimate we dangerous, that would cause the death of george floyd. and finally the second degree manslaughter, is the lowest of the three charges, and that is the easiest one to get to. but chris, the fact that the prosecution made it clear, this is not an indictment of an entire police department, it's not the indictment of an entire police system, derek chauvin went criminally rogue. he deviated from the professional standards, the things he was taught, the policies he was supposed to adhere to. and instead of respecting the badge and all of the authority that comes with the ability to carry the badge in the gun, he would criminally rogue, and that is exactly what the state is trying to tell this jury to do. render a verdict that is consistent with the facts and the evidence and the law that is in this case. and you should not have a problem finding him guilty. because again, it's derek chauvin on trial. not the entire minneapolis police department on. trial tri they were very clear to tro draw that narrative distinction. last thoughts? >> really quickly. the one thing i have to say about this is it's very difficult to say that derek chauvin went rogue. he was in a supervisory capacity that day. officer potter, in brooklyn center was in the supervisory capacity, so while this may be textbook policing, it may well be a reflection of how policing actually operated in that department. >> jelani cobb and katie feng, thank you both for your time today i really appreciate it. and friday we breyers three of the new caucus that was getting shots around by the -- ghosts, are you may forgotten gave a speech at a white nationalist conference just over a month to go. which i mentioned because the bull mission of this new america first caucus, was staking a claim to a visionary republican 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why did icing classes teaching me of the merits of our history and our civilization. those comments and a very likely history of similarly problematic systems. steve king was stripped of his committee's assignments unsuccessfully primary by republican chairman -- you would think that what happened to congressman king would serve is a determined of the republicans, when it comes to this sort of naked b white nationalist policies. that our country is born of its heritage, in the anglo-saxon tradition, jada. on friday punchbowl news broke the story that a group of house republicans, including georgia is marjorie taylor greene, arizona's poll goes our in america first caucus, to protect anglo-saxon political traditions. which is not wildly different from the ideology being pushed by congressman steve king. or for that matter, honestly, if you look at his history, donald trump's right-hand man on immigration, stephen miller. but it was apparently too much for house minority leader kevin mccarthy, who passive aggressively said in a tweet saying the, republican party is the party of lincoln. the party of more opportunity for all americans, not native his dog whistles. that said the america first caucus scrambling, paul bowser said in a saturday statement he did not of the document, it became aware of it only after it was reported by the news media. well marjorie taylor greene released a statement saying the platform was a staff level draw proposal, from an outside group that i hadn't read. dick sherman was the one that broke the story of the new america first caucused, he's the founder punchbowl news and he joins me now. first of all, some clarity on this document. what is this document? in who wrote? it >> chris thanks for having me. that's a great question. wouldn't let me clarify a few things here. when we went to marjorie taylor greene's office, their first comment, and they had the document at this point, was, something along the lines of, you know someone like this to you guys. in will let you know we have a final version of this. so they did not deny its authenticity at all, in any way shape or form. and paul ghosts are, i don't know if it was the first time that he had seen it, but we had gone to his staff in we had contacted them, and they had this. and we posted online, we certainly chris, we're not trying to hide this document. they were creating this caucus. this was material that was linked this the caucus, we never reported that they were the ones that drafted it. but this is a pretty extensive document to have nothing to do with this organization as it seems to be claiming after as you said critique against. let's also be clear, matt gates when he celebrated it, he tweeted that i wanted to get in on that action and then that's before the kevin mccarthy tweet. we should just be clear it was really notable, he was at this sort of outright version of cpac right where he talked to a group and actually uses the term america first where the person that the america first political action conference that hosted that said if america ceases to retain that english cultural framework, if it loses its democratic core and loses its face in jesus christ is not america anymore. this is part of his belief system apparently. >> to put a finer point on that, in a tweet i believe over the weekend i'm not exactly sure of the timing says that i had taken, she called me, fig jack sherman which has a nice cadence to it'll give her that. but she did indicate and said that i had taken her words and miss construed them as racist. we didn't use the word racist i didn't take it out of context. the context is that, sorry, she said i took anglo-saxon out of context and made it seem racist. we posted the entire document. we put that is the context. and she said it was like it was space laser story from a couple months ago so listen, i'm not going to try to make sense of what she's saying. i will tell you this though. this is an important story as you indicated in your opening. this is fundamental to an identity that is deep within the republican party on the house of this point. you're seeing people rally to her defense, so, you know it's very important stuff. >> yeah, and i was actually surprised by mccarthy's reaction. that's not usually the way he goes on this stuff. usually it's like, i don't know, he tends to be a passive and reactive dude. i would not have bet that he would have tried to do that. were you surprised by that tweet? >> i was not because i had been covering mccarthy for more than a decade and wrote a book about how he was a character. the way he would think about this crisis is there a constituency big enough for me to defend this? and i don't mean that in a glib way. he is not in my estimation of white nationalists, ever said anything in that nature to me. i believe he thinks this is wrong but i also believe the way he views this is, this is a port to me, kevin mccarthy, and it will be a point to enough people dying to come out and dump all over it. that is how i would assume without being spoken to about this, how he would think about this. >> yes, the political calculation here is in leadership and his lieutenant -- david duke without the baggage. i don't think he's planning manifest does that live along these lines but just an important point here. this is something that i've covered the far-right, i've actually covered this line of thinking for 20 years and this is all very familiar, but the idea that the 1965 immigration law reform, important distinction between immigrants and previous waves of sellers and cohorts more educated entire wages did not have an expensive welfare state to fall back on when they cannot make it in america and this did not stay in the country at the expense of the native born. it also talks about positive immigration, which is been a great restriction. these positive been absolutely essential and weeding out those and refused to abandon their own loyalties and pledge headfirst into mainstream american society. when you're talking about that, you're talking about a quarter of the voting public. person 1965 immigration is responsible for animal warmest number of people, tens of millions of people, some who worked conservative in both republican like kevin mccarthy. >> by the way, many of whom are conservative and republicans can think that for having a couple of seats in south florida, many cuban immigrants in south florida that have given him those several seats in that part of the state and they're trying to appeal to those people because their conservative voters and they do represent a part of their constituency. another thing that they said an impair for his in here is that they don't want immigrants, are they want to weed out people who are not willing to assimilate. if you think, you've been covering this for a long time. you think 20 years ago to the george bush era when that kind of rhetoric even for the republicans was way out of the mainstream and not even, you don't even hear that kind of stuff. >> the weirdest thing is that there's much more recent example which is the pivot that donald trump himself made down the stretch of the last two or three months of the campaign when he reduced how much he talked about immigration, had the big citizenship swearing in ceremony in the white house and our agency. reds better rand spanish language ads to win florida. there is some very recent precedent to point to here but this is not going away, i think, as you reporting shows of those ideas. that impulse is very strong. thank you very much. >> don't go anywhere, -- is here. there's a lot to talk about for the trial of derek chauvin. her fight to raise the cap on refugees, congresswoman omar joins us. don't go anywhere. go anywhere. that works to turn down acid production, blocking heartburn at the source. with just one pill a day, you get 24-hour heartburn protection. take the prilosec otc two-week challenge. and see the difference for yourself. prilosec otc, 1 pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. did you know the source of odor in your home... ...could be all your soft surfaces? 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what is your understanding of where the cap is in what the administration's posture toward is? >> there isn't really clarity act. as you know, the original cap, that was agreed upon by multiple state departments, by members of congress, who chair committees of jurisdiction, by those of us who have been advocating for the cap, to be lifted. since the trump administration have all agreed upon there being a 65,000 or so, refugees admitted this year, and then subsequently increased in next year. and so what we were appalled to learn, was that wasn't going to happen. and as you violated to, there's been a backtracking, that says we will learn a new information, hopefully by the decision by the biden administration, on may 1st, in so we are all waiting in going to make sure that we advocate as hard as we can to make sure the number does not stay at 15,000. >> something you said, 65, 000, which is still far below the last year of the obama administration, and there is some weather to pacify in the state department actually dealing with the refugees, thanks to some of the changes in the trump administration. something that might be worth noting for people just because your family went through, this is, the level of application, paperwork, vetting, difficulty, hoops that one jumps through to become an official refugee in the united states, is really onerous. it's not an easy process. it's a very long drawn out process. i wonder if you think people, i think there's conflating of people presenting for asylum in the southern border, and folks like your family that had to apply from abroad. >> i think oftentimes, we forget just how lengthy of a process it is. for my family, i would say it was one of the shortest process isn't a couple of years, for a lot of families, it could be five, six, ten years, some 20 years to go through the process of getting vetted. waiting for the state to be resettled in. if you're coming to the united states, and it's really a long process, and as we even talk about capacity, i want to remind people, the kind of capacity challenges that we are talking about at the border, really does not apply, to capacity challenges existing with the refugee resettlement program. because there are resettlement agencies that partner, with the united states government, that do these processing. that process a lot of the vetting that takes place, in help families when they get to the united states, to get assimilated into society. those partners have come out and said, we have the capacity, we are ready for you not only bring the 65,000 we've all been having a conversation about, since inauguration, but we can even do more than that. what we want, what we are advocating for, is this administration to keep its promise, would they campaigned on, when they have promised us, since inauguration. in what we know to be true in regards to their policy in with a morally say they believe. >> this is a personal question. if you don't want to answer you don't have to, but do you remember when your parents told you, where your family told you emboss, that they've gotten the green light and that you are actually going to the united states? >> yes it wasn't a conversation with me but i do remember my grandfather and father talking about us, starting the process of relocating to the united states. and i remember there being a long interview process. i remember us waiting, for nearly a year, to know if we would get a second interview. i remember going through testing, medical testing, other testing. i remember us going to narrow be, to do more processing work. i remember the long process of orientation. and i remember the long process of waiting, to hear if our flight had been scheduled. so it is not an easy process. in many of the people who are in this refugee camps, who have already started the process, long ago, have been waiting. in waiting, for their papers to get processed. we hear from so many people, in the united states, who have family members that they've themselves have sponsored, who are asking what is taking so long. to be reunited with their family members. this is something that people have had high hopes for, something people fought so hard to make sure that this new administration was going to be able to do. and it's just with desperation in frustration, that we are speaking out against the biden administration, in their backtracking of this. we do applaud them, for changing course, and we just want to make sure that they follow through with the clear communication with those numbers are going to be. so that we can feel comfortable where those numbers will land. >> finally, i want to ask you about the mood in your city. the jury is deliberating on the trial of derek chauvin, for the killing of george floyd. dante wright's death, coming just in the last week and a half i believe, also i think in your district. what are your what are you hearing from your constituents about where folks are at right now? 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so for the first few weeks, months, we were trying to get appointments. there's not enough vaccine to go around. you hit a point where that's not really the issue it's getting people who are hesitant or maybe just busier not that invested in doing it. is that where we are right now? >> just about. remember where we have to go chris. based on the high transmissibility of these new variants, the b117 variant from the united kingdom. the one 4 to 9 coming out of california. they are more transmissible. that means stakes are higher, the percentage of americans we have to vaccinate the whole transmission is certainly dramatically slower goes up and now are about 80%. we need 80% of the u.s. population vaccinated. that essentially means just about all the adults and a high percentage of the adolescents and so in theory, all the stars are aligning now and in order to vaccinate our way out of this epidemic at least in the united states, provided we can get everybody on board. >> i saw this in the city of houston where you are located. the houston chronicle saying that vaccine supply increased texas and i saw some one point tweeting out that a few of the clinics and houston are now just walk up and i think that's gonna be increasingly common, right? that when you're getting to the point where you don't have to regulate or russian supply, you can basically say come on down. >> the whole idea is to make this is easy breezy as possible. victory would be anybody who wakes up that morning and says maybe i'll get vaccinated today. without a lot of fussy sign up and rigid criteria and were just about there and many states are already there. the problem is now we've got a sizable chunk of the u.s. population that is said that they're going to be defiant just like they were defiant of masks and social distancing. they have adopted this very self defeating view that they are not going to get vaccinated as well and we know with those groups are. there are at least five holes now, and we did one with the university has done one. kaiser family foundation has done one. texas a&m is one of ours. the pbs news hour, and the one you just mentioned all point to the same thing. it's white republicans. and i don't know how to look and we say it, but that is the reality and this has been the growing trend since 2015 when the anti-vaccine movement first glommed on to the republican party. but now it's cut across as a major component of the republican party. >> yeah, i guess the question is what do we know from social science or even vaccinology and public health and i don't think shaming anyone is going to do any good and certainly they're not going to listen to me telling them that they're doing it wrong so the question of how do you reach people where they are in the information environment we're in, well what do you say to that? >> well, if part of it is there very much focused on this concept of health freedom, medical freedom, and that was the basis for defying massive social distancing. that is how the movement started in 2015 and now we're saying you know what? if you can vaccinate guess what? you can have everything you've asked for in terms of not requiring social distancing and masks. we can have an extraordinary quality of life and it's been an warmest source of frustration for me. i've been trying to go on as many conservative news outlets as i can in order to appeal to these groups and now it's getting more complicated unfortunately in the last 2 to 3 weeks. we have seen fox news pile on in a big way. that's how much the daytime people and i find it's the nighttime anchors have decided that they're gonna spectacular ice this and we have seen these rant against vaccines and at least one anchor has targeted me and tony fauci and buyback and it's really destructive. how we rip out the anti-science of the republican party because the truth is this is new. the republican party has never been anti-science. it's gonna be one of the great challenges in the coming weeks. >> yes i think the climate trajectory has the canary in the coal miner even before that took -- their arson antecedents there. let's talk about the world because i think it's shocking to people to see that chart as they feel like oh light of the end of the tunnel. 50% of adults are vaccinated. it's really bad in india right now. brazil looks like it's coming down. to me it's like, i've been thinking about afghanistan, the fact that we're probably going to pull our troops out in 20 years. it's been trillions of dollars. the amount of resources we marshaled in response to 9/11, it seems like we're a rich country and money is cheap right now and we're borrowing a ton of it. it would be good for us morally, strategically, diplomatically, and public health wise to just really throw a lot of resources in vaccinating the world. >> that's absolutely right and remember our economy can only go so high up before it plateaus again because we can't do business with africa, we can't do business with latin america and essentially we're going to be looking at six or seven countries that are going to be fully vaccinated, leaving everybody else bereft to vaccines and that's why we're trying to accelerate and texas children's and baylor a low cost cognitive protein covid-19 vaccine that can be given to large populations at low cost so we are partnering with biological need based in india and now we're making a billion doses with clinical trials. it's the same technology to make the hepatitis b vaccine that's been around for years, and there's a way to scale that up so what we need at this the u.s. government is to now help us biologically in india make about a billion doses if we can get the u.s. government to contribute formally and i think we can do this. $1.50 at those, you cannot beat that in terms of cost. >> yeah, we did a why is this happening podcast in which we talked about some of the complexities in that global distribution in the new book, preventing the next pandemic. always a pleasure doctor. that is all in on this monday night, the rachel meadow show starts right now. good evening rachel. >> good evening chris, thank you my friend much appreciated. thank you for joining us this hour. it was 100 years ago this spring. a teenage boy named dick roland, just a teenager. he was at grave risk of being lynched. tulsa oklahoma had defendants dragged out of the courthouse, dragged out of the jail before and lynched in the streets. in may 1921, when dick roland had been arrested in tulsa. there was fairly good reason to believe it was going to happen again. a local paper, the tulsa tribune published an account on may 31st 1921, that essentially accused this black teenager, dick roland, of rape. he worked as a shoe shine boy at a building downtown, and it accused him of sexually assaulting a white teenage girl. and teenage dick roland was arrested that day. after that, a mob, a large mob of white tulsa residents started gathering at the courthouse, demanding basically to get their hands on him. and tulsa was a bustling city at the time. a lot of business, a lot of oil business, was running through tulsa. and it was a segregated city. most of the african-american population lived in greenwood.

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