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Minorities generally, and i think that part, you see everybody getting ready for the response to the verdict. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greenes team says that she is not scrapping the controversial America First Caucus, despite distancing herself from its proposed platform. New developments surrounding the deadly shooting at a Fedex Facility in indianapolis, officials now say it is the second suspect the gunman who legally purchased to Assault Rifles believed to be used in the attack. This comes in a growing pressure on President Biden and congress to take further action on gun control. Plus, get out of the way get out of the water that stunning sight at the beach on floridas space coast, a Plane Falling in an air show, Crash Landing Close to shore, narrowly missing people swimming in the ocean, details on what the pilot said, and what led up to the incident. Incredible video, there we will dive more into that story. First, we say good morning. It is sunday, april 18th. I Lindsey Reiser am and i Kendis Gibson am, live at msnbc, headquartered in New York. We have a team of correspondents standing boy this morning, all over the country with our top stories. We will begin in minneapolis, On The Edge of two police involved shootings, and as the most highprofile trial in decades comes to an end, hundreds gathered outside the Police Station in Brooklyn Center for the seventh night in a row, demanding justice for 20yearold daunte wright. Mbs and Bc Correspondence in minneapolis, about 20 minutes south of Brooklyn Center, an area by the way, which is still under another curfew this morning. Megan good, morning. Lindsay in candice, good morning to you. Hundreds of people outside the department in Brooklyn Center, calling for peace, calling for justice. Mainly peaceful Last Night compared to what we saw on friday when nearly 100 people were arrested. We also heard from Congresswoman Maxine waters of california, who came to town to address the crowd, calling for justice. I want you to listen to what she said Last Night. This is a very difficult time in the history of this country. Despite the fact that what we know, people of color who have been killed too often, unarmed young men, in particular, black men. We have to persist, and call for justice. We have to let people know that we are not going to be satisfied unless we get justice in these cases. The congresswoman in town had a Closing Argument for the Derek Chauvin Trial tomorrow, we know that the Prosecution And Defense will have one last time to address the jury, making their final arguments before deliberations. The judge will also issue instructions to the jurors, making sure they are absolutely clear and what they need to consider on each one of the three charges against eric chauvin. Lindsey and kendis . We will dive into the strategies later with a civil Rights Attorney, thank you for starting us off. As we now turn to chicago, where officials say they are preparing for more Rallies Today in support of 13 year old Adam Toledo. He was fatally shot by a chicago Police Officer in late march. Just days ago, the city released a Body Cam Video of the incident, sparking plenty of protests sonia help in is in chicago with more on all of. This antonio, good morning. What are we learning . Hello kendis and lindsey. The city of chicago is still processing the release of the Police Shooting Video of 13 year old Adam Toledo. Throughout the day on sunday, gatherings are expected, calling in a Peace March that will happen around 5 pm, central time. Right, now there are two ongoing investigations. One through the civilian office of Police Accountability and the others in the district attorneys office. Protests are hoping that the officer who shot and killed Adam Toledo is going to be charged. When you talk to people, here there is not a lot of faith in the process. The Police Union President came out and threw his weight in support of the officer who shot toledo. People feel betrayed by the police department, betrayed by the mayor and by the prosecutor, who prior to the release of the video, led the public to believe, they feel, but in the video they were going to see Adam Toledo brandishing a gun, clearly holding a gun at the time whos actually shot. That is not ultimately what the video showed. Atin the meantime, what we are hearing from activists is that they are consistently right now encouraging people to be careful about showing images, replaying clips of the scene from that body camera footage. They are concerned that for young people here In The City, latino and black youths here, lets see these images again and again, it will be traumatizing. Really, not just for the youth In The City of chicago, but around the country. People all across the country. Have you seen the video . I hate myself that i watched it, but i think it is important to watch some of these videos. Yes, we have to know exactly what happened, judge for ourselves. I saw the video up until the exact moment it was committed. All right, thanks. There are new developments this morning at the Mass Shooting at the Fedex Facility in indianapolis. We now have photos of the eight people who were killed, when that former employee opened fire. The ages, ranging from 19, to 74. A vigil was held yesterday to honor the lives lost following Thursday Nights tragic events in Indianapolis Police are now saying 19yearold brandon scott hold, legally purchased to Assault Rifles. They believe they were used in the Mass Shooting. Authorities previously seized his shotgun in march of last year, following an interview with the fbi after his mom raised concerns about his mental state. Correspondent Kathy Park is in indianapolis with the latest, kathy, good morning. Lindsey, good morning to you. That is right, he was on the radar of Law Enforcement, on march, 2020. A series of events, from local and federal Law Enforcement agencies. There was questioning by the fbi. They were able to seize a shotgun, and that was not returned back to him. He was briefly placed on a mental old. There was no indication that there was any sort of ties to extremism, but the Big Question Is, how was he able to purchase two of these Assault Rifles, several months later, later in that summer . According to police, a statement was released Last Night, those were the weapons used in Thursday Nights attack. And according to the New York times, right now, it does not appear that the suspect was part of, or was subject to the red Flag Law here in the state. So there are still so many questions about exactly how he was able to afford, and Gain Access to those weapons. Those are some of the questions that a lot of people we spoke with on the ground yesterday, attending some of those vigils, that is what they want to know. But this community, guys, they are certainly in a lot of pain, they are in mourning, morning those eight lives lost, take a listen. Even though we may not have known them, we do love them. We do miss them, and in their name, we continue on. This is not something that we will ever forget, not something that they will get past all that quickly. But i am hopeful that they remember the good times they had with their loved ones. Meanwhile, we know that there is at least one other vigil that is planned later on today. You might notice that a lot of the crime Scene Tape behind me at the facility where the shooting took place has since been removed. This is still very much an active investigation. The Big Question Is why the suspect decided to carry out this attack. Guys, back to. You cathy, thank you for following the latest for us there. The worldwide Pandemic Death Toll topping more than 3 Million for the first time this weekend, as covid cases continue to rise. There is an unnerving, unnerving thing that is taking place, the number of hesitant people about the vaccine, for example, mississippi, where Vaccine Supply is up for demand, where 30 of Retirement Age residents there have yet to be vaccinated. Emerson Bc Correspondent is in jackson, mississippi. Gary, good morning. Mississippi has one of the lowest rates of vaccinations in this entire country, so what is the deal . Good morning, kendis. Mississippi does have one of the lowest rates of vaccination in the entire country and one in three people over the age of 65 are unvaccinated. But this is no longer a supply issue. Now, it is a demand issue. Because of 70,000 open vaccination appointments, right now, on the states website. So what is causing this . Well, the reason, the couple of reasons here, that have gone down well before covid got here to mississippi. First, it comes down to trust. 40 of mississippi is black, 40 of the black community here in mississippi has received their vaccine. That is a significant portion that is not yet, of course, there has been a lot of reporting done on the history of the hesitancy of vaccinations in the black community. And then, as all things do, it comes down to politics. Conservatives, according to a recent poll out of this week, 45 of conservatives say they do not plan on getting a coronavirus vaccine. That matters in a state, like mississippi, where Donald Trump won with almost 60 of the vote back in 2020. It then comes down to rural access. Here in mississippi, it is a very rural state. 54 of residents in the state say they live in a rural area. That matters, especially with the vaccine, like Johnson Johnson, but did not either complicated reintegration system. So whats being done with all . This well, this doctor is to state Health Officer in mississippi. He told me they are really trying to get the vaccine to the people that need it most, instead of hosting maybe those larger drivein events, those events where do you have to get to the vaccine. They are going to the church is, going to the schools, going to Community Health centers and trying to bring the vaccine to the people. Here is what Thomas Dobbs had to say. Some of the biggest challenges we have right now, especially now that Johnson Johnson is not available, is the vaccines come in huge doses have complicated storage regiments. We need some customization for the specific challenges of people in the rural communities. I know they are listening to us, i know it is a challenge, but look at the great stuff we have done. Heck, we have phenomenally successful vaccines developed in approximately one year. I know that they can meet these small challenges of, you know, reformulating them in a way that meets the needs of rural communities. Now, doctor dobbs says he has been in direct contact with the White House and scientific partners, he is looking at a way to get preloaded syringes, like the flu shot, so doctors can have one or two vaccines available, in their fridge, and not have to waste an entire viral, should they not need all five or six, . Guys 70,000 appointments there, that are still left open. Gary grumbach in jackson, mississippi. Thank you. After reports came out of her America First Caucus, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene is now leading the media, blaming them, using words like psychotic, skunk and liars. Plus, get out of the water look out for the plane get out of the water no, they are not shooting a sequel to it is florida, a World War ii airplane makes an Emergency Landing at a beach. What led to those close calls, on the space coast. Coast [ chuckles ] is such a hassle. Same with my boat. The insurance bills are through the roof. [ sighs ] be cool. I wish i could group my insurance stuff. 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Morning from Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greenes office, says she is not scrapping her controversial America First Caucus, despite distancing herself from its proposed platform yesterday. The concern the lawmaker called the platform, which outlines efforts aimed at preserving anglosaxon traditions a staff will proposal, and she had read it. Okay, so she released a statement, a lengthy, one slamming the media as sick and evil, we are not all that bad . Also, scum. Definitely not amanda golden, who has gotten whiplash, trying to figure out what is going on with this America First Caucus . Is it happening . Is it not happening . Should we care . But . Yes, kendis and lindsey, a number of updates years since we last spoke about this yesterday morning, just to start off, we have seen some pushback from other notable republicans who were initially said to be linked with this. We have a new statement from congressman who is saying, he never heard about. It he did not write these documents, he is not involved, denying any kind of involvement whatsoever but also saying he will continue to push forward the America First Agenda, within his own Freedom Caucus. So, seeing some towing at the line in their. We have this new statement coming from Marjorie Taylor greenes spokesperson, that essentially says shes not scrapping anything but will do it on her own terms. I will read you some of that statement now, it from nick dire, the spokesperson for Marjorie Taylor greene saying, this was an early plan proposal, nothing was agreed to or approved. This does not mean however that anything is scrapped. As earlier statement described, she plans on driving president trumps America First Agenda with your professional colleagues, and will not let the immediate dictator plans. Keep in mind, we have a statement from nick dire, the spokesperson, just on friday that says something different, but included quote, the on the lookout for the release of the America First Caucus platform, when its announce to the public very soon. So a bit of backtracking there but these updates statements come as we are seeing leadership coming from the Republican Party against this platform, the House Minority Leader mccarthy, the number three republican in the house, liz cheney, head of the Freedom Caucus wooden speaking out against it. We have heard from a cofounder, just yesterday on msnbc speaking about how they get this material, and how the credibility stands. Take a listen to what he said. Its being circulated on The Hill, two other republican officers. Let me put it that way im not sure how we can characterize it. We did not write it, of course. And we provided the document to congresswoman greenes office, before we ran our story, we knew exactly what we were writing in, we provided the document to them. They never denied having a role in this group. You hear here, the material coming from a hill source, circulating to other republican officers. Meanwhile, as he pointed to in the beginning of this segment that Marjorie Taylor greene issued that statement, blaming the media saying she had never seen that draft level, the staffed Level Draft Proposal of the materials. At the same, time she is still pushing forward with her own agenda, it will be on the ground here. I know a lot of this gets lost in the weeds, amanda, but at the core of this is something that we have congressman on air yesterday, they called this the Ku Klux klan case. What is at the core of this . The core of this is that the language that was used in this proposal that spoke to the platform of the America First Caucus has real racist undertones. It has this language that incites and nativist ideology, it has a long, racist legacy behind, it pushing forward the anglosaxon political reforms, or wanting to go back to a previous era. That is sparking a bit of a Dog Whistle throughout congress and beyond. And those kind of messages are not something new coming from this congresswoman, as we know, she issued very outlandish statements in the past, promoting Conspiracy Theories like qanon, across the media and in her own statements. This is now something that republicans on The Hill have to grapple with and see what those next steps to be. Marjorie Taylor Greene has already been stripped of her Committee Assignments back in february, for previous statements. So to see where this moves forward aside from condemnation and statements from republicans will be interesting, if this is something that you just continue to move forward on a larger platform. With yes, a Dog Whistle for my white supremacist there on capitol hill. 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With the defense Closing Arguments in this case, when expecting the prosecution is simply been a journey being walked through a defensive already been flew in the case, when we watch the Prosecution Report a very strong, methodical case and essentially going through three phases. The first phase was to give the jury a very emotional fuel for the color of what the trial was about. You saw witnesses who described the scene, what they saw and what they observed, felt in those moments. Then, they transitioned to a very important, not necessarily exciting but critical stage of their case where they talked about the technical aspects of what was the cause of death of george floyd. What they did was two things. It set the stage to establish a critical element of the case, but also took away unimportant defense, that the defense was intending to advance, that it was not direct chauvin who is responsible for killing george floyd. Finally, they wrapped up with a combination of testimony from george floyds brother, a few other, thats where they ended. Would i expect from them on monday is to simply walk the journey through those testimonies, and say listen, use your Common Sense. The defense on the other hand, they are going to hone in on the fact that it is not the quantity of evidence, it is the quality of evidence. They will say, you heard from the testimony, from experts on the prosecution, you have heard from our experts. It is now up to you to decide who it is that you believe, and what the defense will try to do is try, it will take one or two jurors, to get them to have reasonable doubt, enough to get a Hung Jury. A Hung Jury is all they are hoping for. All right, lets talk about the three charges here that Derek Chauvin is facing, seconddegree unintentional murder, third Degree Murder and second degree manslaughter. We know that first count, seconddegree unintentional murder carries the heftiest penalty, it is also the hardest to prove here. Quickly, we have a couple more questions we want to ask you, do you think prosecutors have proven their case Beyond A Reasonable Doubt . I absolutely do you think they have. I think in terms of its possible that the jury might come back, especially with the manslaughter charge, the easiest for them to get. But it is a possibility that they may not get the murder to, because they might not have proven the case, but because sometimes, juries can be very on particular. I am curious about the Body Language, at least the recorded Body Language of the jurors during this trial. You have been there, in a courtroom. Yes, at the start of a case, especially one this long, they are engaged. But in the defense presentation, some people started to nod off, they were not taking as many notes. Do you read into that, they did not like what they were seeing from the defense, or just tired by this point . I think a combination of both. I think sometimes Trial Fatigue is a real thing for people who have not done it before. This is very intense, emotionally draining. So fatigue is quite possibly a possibility. I do believe that by this point, this is not a trial that no one had any idea about, or knew what it was going into, it so by the time we got to the defense, you have heard 37 witnesses from the prosecution telling you what your Common Sense has already sort of given you, and that is all you are affirming. So by the time the defense began to talk, saying these werent plausible in a number of respects, the jury was probably not as interested in hearing what they had to say. All right, charles coleman, we will leave you there, thank you for being with us this morning. Thank you for having me. 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It is the power of suggestion that we are starting to see over the last couple of years, with people who are involved with Conspiracy Theories. Miss phelps was actually an African American who lived down in florida. And she had been increasingly buying into some of the themes we see from the extreme right, the far right. Kamala harris is an african america, she is not, she is faking it. And all of these other troops, related to how the Trump Campaign and some of the more Extremist Groups view democrats and the democratic leadership. And apparently, she was willing to verbalized that in these videos to her husband, which were monitored by the government. And she stated pretty clearly, she was going to kill Kamala Harris in a matter of months, and started taking proactive measures, like buying a gun and practicing, to effect that. Malcolm, do you think all of the rhetoric that we have had over the last few years, especially over the last six months or so has kind of made this current president , Vice President in danger . Well, i think that there is no more danger than there was during the obama administration, when we know that the Secret Service was constantly practicing their Counter Sniper techniques, due to the innumerable threats the president had at that time. But this particular administration has a new element to it, the element of derangement that comes from some of these more extremist, called like groups. Qanon. They have managed to infiltrate themselves into wings, that you would never imagine, right . Health and wellness communities, the yoga community, the antivaxxer community. And as we have seen over history, some of these groups, individuals within these groups can be immensely violent. And so as you are being fed all of this information through this closed sphere of lies, it will push some people towards violence, to the point where she was clearly enunciating it out loud to her family and friends. Yes, you point out her family in friends, in fact her mother said that her daughter was sick and says that with her husband in jail, and two children to take care of, she was desperate and had nothing to do, that she has lost everything. However, this is i would say, reminiscent of some who have gone down the whole Qanon Conspiracy Theory rabbit hole, would you not say . Did she sound like someone who could have been susceptible to those Extremist Beliefs . Well, you know, over the last three days there has been this conference called a Health And Safety conference by some extremist right wingers, led by general michael flynn, lynn would, you know, the lawyer from the Trump Campaign. And it has been completely unhinged. I mean, some of the weirdest stuff i have ever, seen in a full, open embraced by linwood, of the qanon conspiracy, bringing this into the republican and mainstream, not to mention all of these antivax, antihealth doctors. These people feed a constant stream of information out to susceptible individuals, like this woman, who come to believe that anything that is in the closed Information Loop is gods truth. And they will act on it, as we saw on january 6th. This is only going to become more dangerous. Yeah, i hear that. Jim keys was at that conference, a lot of people, the comments that he has made their. Malcolm nance, thanks to you, appreciate it, brother. My pleasure. Just ahead, Putin Credit Alexei navalny said to be on the verge of death in a russian prison. What President Biden is saying as tensions escalate between the two countries. Plus, the Queens Grief on display at prince philips funeral. Why she was sitting alone, and other details from yesterdays funeral. 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According to the Consumer Product Safety commission, there have been 39, again, very disturbing, everybody we want to warn you, there have been 39 similar incidents that peloton reported to customers last month. There are also reports of pets and objects being trapped under the machine. One of the most well known producers in hollywood, and broadway is stepping away amid allegations that he was violent and abusive towards staff. Rudin is one of the few people to win an oscar, Golden Globe and tony for shows such as the book of mormon, is now stepping down immediately and will be replaced in upcoming productions, several broadway stores have stepped down from their roles in protest, due to lack of action on rudins a legit behavior. Remember the Fyre Festival . That one where thousands of attendees were stranded in the bahamas . It was organized by this guy, billy mcfarland. Hundreds of those Ticket Goers can now get some cash, reportedly about 7,000 each after a 2 Million dollar settlement, which is still the subject of final approval. That amount could be lower, depending on the outcome of the bankruptcy case. President biden reacted to reports on vladimir putins most fraudulent critic, who is on the verge of death. Alexei Navalnys Physician says on social media, he could quote, die at any moment. He is currently in his third week of a Hunger Strike in a prison outside of moscow. Sky News Correspondent Diana magnay is in moscow, with the latest. Diana, lets start with navalny, one of the latest on his condition . Good morning [inaudible] well, this is his 19th day of hunger striking, it seems that he is very ill indeed. A medical report has come out to navalny, his lawyers, suggests he has high level of potassium which can apparently lead to possible cardiac arrest, the possibility as well of kidney failure. So the alliance of Doctors Union Close to Alexei Navalny are saying he could be just days away from death. So, an extremely serious situation, the reason why he has called this in the first place is because he has not been allowed a doctor that he trusts to see him, and his condition is clearly deteriorating, rapidly. This is what President Biden had to say about Alexei Navalnys health, at least weve seen reports that he was days away from death. Mister president , what do you know about navalny . He is very, very sick. Now [inaudible] Russias President Service says that hes getting all of the medical attention that he needs, that it is quite sufficient. But consider who Alexei Navalny is, he is president putins most prominent opponent. He has, and is still essentially in recovery from a Nerve Agent Poisoning last summer, which he blames directly on the kremlin. Therefore, you can understand why he and his supporters, and many, many people in the west are not confident that the medical support that he is receiving in prison is remotely sufficient. All right, Diana Magnay in moscow, thank you for your reporting. Well, The World this morning is still unpacking the events in the uk, but emotional goodbye to prince philip. The outpouring of sympathy this morning for the queen, of course, this image of her majesty sitting alone and saint georges chapel. Due to the covid restrictions there in the uk, many weighing in on the shots of Prince William and harry, walking together after the funeral, the first time they have been seen publicly together since that explosive oprah interview. Joining us now from london, msnbc foreign correspondent, sara hartman. Good morning, what are the british tabloids and such saying about these events . Well kendis, good morning. I think you already mentioned, it was the photo of the queen sitting all by herself on the cusp of her 95th birthday, for us to mourn her husband of more than 70 years all by herself. I will show you the cover of a few british papers this morning, alone in her grief. Her majesty, with eight here in her eye. Another paper showing this image of the queen, alone in the pew, the loneliest goodbye. The Royal Family also putting out a tweet to honor the late prince philip, showing him offering his cap one last time. He was the longest serving Prince Consort in british history, his passing marks the end of an era. For many brits, he has been around as long as they have been alive. So what we are expecting to see is a real beginning of transition to the younger royals. We are expecting to see some of the younger royals accompanying the queen on her engagements. She will turn 95 on wednesday. She has just lost her husband, the country is in the middle of a pandemic. We will be watching very closely to see Prince William and his wife kate, begin to step up and take on even more public duties. Kendis . A tough year for the queen, turning 95, burying her husband, just within days. Sara harman thank you. Up next right here, a group of mega churches is getting involved in the fight for Voting Rights. And this man right here, he is leading the charge, we will speak with bishop barber. Good morning. And the next hour, Florida Congressman Debbie Wasserman Schultz joins us to talk about Marjorie Taylor greenes America First Caucus, what democrats think of the latest, and the matt gates investigation. You are watching Msnbc Reports. Watching Msnbc Reports proof of less joint pain and clearer skin. Proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis. With humira. Humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. 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Us bishop, thank you, he is the cochair of the poor Peoples Campaign and president of repairs of the brief. Good morning, thank you for being here. He recently said that police, the Policing Culture itself, where white officers act with impunity is our first and biggest social ill, in your words. What kind of impact do you think the verdict in the Chauvin Trial will have on these . You know, this is not an anomaly. It is happening too much, it shows that there is something in the culture, that allows a person to act with impunity, as Phil Black Life is cheap, round life is very cheap. This trial could go one or two ways. It will go down to the way of the defense, that has been put up in the larger defense, trying to suggest this man, we saw murdered in front of us, died of carbon dioxide poisoning. I really feel for the country, if that is the way that this goes because it is too wrong, too hurtful and obvious what is going on. On the other hand, this could be the trial that shows even if you are an officer of the law, backed up by the state, if you murder somebody, you will find we will find justice, he will be treated properly, you will be indicted and found guilty. You know, we also have to do some other things, though. We will have to make sure that even if people are found guilty at the state level, that they can be prosecuted federally. We may need to start talking about insurance companies saying, we will not pay. If you kill someone, murder someone, as a cop, nothing will come out of your pension, it will come out of the city budgets, and we have to make sure that we could at least say through this culture, that black and brown life is not cheap, you cannot just kill people with impunity. Bishop, i also want to talk to you about the controversial Voting Rights, laws that are moving their way throughout the country, particularly the one signed in georgia. You teamed up with in an oped featured in time, in which both say that Voting Rights should be viewed as a moral issue. How do you convince people of this, particularly when all these similar bills are being debated in other states . Well, isnt that something, here we are in this democracy, years and years after the voting Rights Act was passed, one president said it was the greatest victory in this country, even greater than some of our wars. People are now trying to go backwards and take away Voting Rights. Some of them are basing it on the lies that trump told, but many of us also believe they are afraid of the new federal laws that will eventually be passed, that will expand Voting Rights, and also the restoration of the Voting Rights packed, Article Section five, thats as many of these states will need preclearance before these laws go into effect, they need to be pretty clear by the justice department. They know that they could make it, so it is wrong, it is an impact on our democracy, and this is why, it hurts black people, brown people, poor white people. I was in a room one day with white and black people, we should the connection between those who suppress the vote, and those who block them, block health care, blocking womens rights. This white guy stood up and said, reverend, they are playing us against each other. I said, that is exactly right. Voting suppression creates an impoverished democracy, and this is why it is immoral. In this country, we only allow people to vote, we dont allow pets, parakeets were puppies. So if you suppress the right to vote, you are suggesting that i am not a person, that i do not matter. That is why it is a moral issue. Suppressing my right to vote is literally to say, i do not fit into the description of what america calls a person or a citizen. And that is immoral, we must stop. It i only have about 30 seconds, reverend. You guys are doing something to try to fight all of this, including the fight to run, the filibuster, what are you doing . Well, pastures are going to come together across this country to say that the filibuster is immoral, regressive. It has been used to block or delay every piece of legislation from anti slavery legislation, to welfare, to social security, to civil rights, two women suffrage. Check history, is never been used in a positive way. And if you support the filibuster, we are challenging to say, you are either an enabler, or an advocate of suppression, of regression, you are against civil rights, living wages. You can straddle the fence. The filibuster has never, in history, been used to bring people together. Dont ask me if its wrong on, that its a strange thing that the u. S. Chamber of commerce is now applauding manchin and others who are supporting the filibuster, blocking voter rights. Theres something wrong, when money is connected to this kind of suppression. It is antidemocratic, it is anti going forward. We must challenge this as well as a form of immorality, as a form of sin. It is aggressive, wrong and we much challenge. It they ship barber, i know you spoke to been mentioned personally, you have not been able to convince him as of yet. Thanks for joining us on this sunday morning, thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Well, we are nearing the top of the hour, Brandnew Hour up here on msnbc. Here on msnbc. First of, major cities bracing for potential unrest as the nation awaits the verdict in the Murder Trial for minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin. Tensions high, ahead of Closing Arguments, tomorrow. I stand with you, and i am going to stand with you, and continue to fight in every way that i can, for justice, for justice. Congresswoman Maxine Waters joining, taking to The Streets across the country this week to protest several other police involved incidents. The latest on the deadly Mass Shooting at the fedex warehouse, in fedex warehouse, i indianapolis. The 19yearold Gunman legally purchased two Assault Rifles just months after police seized Hison Shotgun over concerns abo his mental state. The development coming amid growing pressure for President Biden to takeg further action gun control. Plus, powerful words from 10yearold transgender girl testifying against a bill that could send parents to prison for providingor genderaffirming ca to their kids. Ir t. Just it makes me sad that some politicians use trans kids like me to get votes from people who hate me just because i exist. Stau well hear from her late this hour. Good morning. Od its sunday, april 18th

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