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georgia's election law compare to other states. plus, week two of the george floyd trial gets under way. and the chief of police expected to testify against his former colleague. the get is, what will he say on stand. also, crews try to fix a waste water plant near tampa. the question is could we see a catastrophe? it's "way too early" for this. good morning. and welcome to "way too early," the show that had more than enough jelly beans over the weekend. i am kasie hunt on this monday, april 5th. we'll start with the news. georgia governor brian kemp is criticizing major league baseball and several atlanta-based companies as backlash over the state's voting law continues. on friday, the mlb announced it would be moving the upcoming all-star game from atlanta to a ballpark in another state. that news had the governor hitting back over the weekend, even comparing voting laws in georgia to those in narcotic where major league baseball is headquartered. >> major league baseball caved to fear and lies from liberal activists. they ignored the facts of our new election integrity law. and they ignored the consequences of their decision on our local community. georgians and all americans should know what this decision means. it means cancel culture and partisan activists coming for your business, they're coming for your game or event in your hometown. and they're coming to cancel everything from sports to how you make a living. in new york, they have ten days of early voting. in georgia, we have a minimum of 17. with two additional sundays that are optional for all counties in our state. in new york, you have to have an excuse to vote by absentee. in georgia, you can vote absentee for any reason. and you can do it securely. it's easier to vote in georgia than it is in new york. even more ridiculous is that mlb didn't cite a single reason that they disagreed with the bill in their statement. everyone standing here today and those at home know why, because the facts and the truth don't support their narrative. >> georgia's new election law has been criticized by voting rights advocates who argue that it unfairly targets disenfranchised voters. we'll have more on "morning joe" when lieutenant general duncan joins the conversation. and the biden administration rallies support for the $2 trillion bill over the weekend. >> we're still coasting off infrastructure choices made in the 1950s. now it's time to make infrastructure decisions in the future. >> i think it's time to update infrastructure. that means we need to be funding and incentivizing those structure that allow us. >> this is the american jobs act and also to have jobs for a whole array of sectors that help us win the future. it's the biggest investment in america since fdr, since the new deal. >> i would say this is a good faith effort. we want to hear where we are. we want to get people's reactions to this package, both in the specifics and in the overall. >> we've done a lot of infrastructure weeks ahead of us, guys, so hang in there. meanwhile, the u.s. is now administering more than 3 million new covid-19 shots daily. the cdc said 3.1 million doses were given on saturday. the agency says 104 million americans or 31% of the population have received at least one dose of the vaccine. nearly 60 million people or 18% of the population are fully vaccinated. that's nice news on this monday. and there's this as well. the cdc says it's now safe for fully vaccinated people to travel. americans traveling within the u.s. can now do so without needing a covid test or quarantining. if you're leaving the country you also don't need a test unless the place you're visiting requires one. and when you're coming from an international trip, you should get a negative test before flying and get another test on arrival. the guidance hasn't changed for americans who aren't fully vaccinated, though, as they're urged to avoid traveling completely. these changes come after tsa reported the most passenger screenings since the start of the pandemic on friday. joining us now author of "washington post" powerup jackie alemany, thank you for being with us early this morning. let's start with what we kicked off the show with, which is mlb, brian kemp, the governor of georgia and this voting law. clearly, quote/unquote, cancel culture is going to be a focus for republicans both in states and of course, running for federal office to try to get elected to the house and senate. is it going to work for them? >> that's the million dollar question. something that i think lawmakers at home struggling with their constituents right now, they are on a three-week recess. and they're trying to land a lot of attacks on biden's spending spree. and as you just noted with governor brian kemp's cancel culture. that's been perhaps the most reoccurring theme from republican this year. something we saw a lot fomenting at cpac, and now, perhaps, one of the only viable responses to some of the voting restrictions that we're seeing play out in, you know, dozens of states around the country right now. but, look, this is a law that governor brian kemp actually signed behind closed doors with no cameras there to show what he was doing. it is already shown that it is deeply unpopular. dozens of companies are having a hard time remaining neutral when it comes to -- refraining from commenting on these laws that we're seeing and these restrictions shrinking, early absentee voting, requiring voter i.d.s. so i think republicans are struggling other than to explain this posture of cancel culture. >> jackie, i guess as we talk about that as a potential initial the midterms. i'm thinking about the other news we have this morning that people are getting vaccinated at a pretty solid clip. here, the country is on track to getting back to some version of normal if we continue at that rate. from a political perspective, is anyone going to care about any other challenges if they see that president biden has successfully set their lives back to normal? >> yeah, you know, again, that is a really great question. there are so many unknown factors here right now. especially as you have the cdc, people like rochelle walensky and dr. fauci warning last week that there was potential for americans to not allow people to turn the corner if people didn't abide by the mitigation efforts including continuing to wear a mask while getting vaccinated. we're still a ways waym immunity. but what we're going to see, that early polling is popular, including the american rescue plan which is already behind us and looking ahead to the infrastructure plan. i think you're going to see a lack of substantive attacks from republicans. you're going to see contortions in describing the spending. republicans as you and i talked about last week, trying to falsely frame it as fallen on american workers, even though neither of the bills specify, you know, taxes for those making less than 400,000. but i think, again, with things getting back to normal for the first time in a year, it is going to be challenging to get american voters to tune into anything but getting their lives back to normal here. >> all right. "the washington post" jackie alemany, thank you as always for kicking us off. we appreciate it. and the trial of minneapolis police officer accused of killing george floyd ends the testimony of another officer. that officer with the use of force against floyd. >> pulling him down to the ground face down and putting a knee on the neck for that amount of time is just uncalled for. i saw no reason why the officers felt they were in danger, if that's what they felt. and that's they would have to feel to be able to use that kind of force. >> so, in your opinion, should that restraint have stopped once he was handcuffed and thrown on the ground? >> absolutely. >> so, zimmerman, the head of the homicide unit, added that the suspects who are handcuffed should be taken off their chest as soon as possible. but on cross-examination, he acknowledged that officers are allowed to improvise and use whatever means are available to protect themselves. zimmerman signed off shortly after floyd's death 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four with a buzzer beater in overtime with the 11th seeded ucla. if you haven't seen it, watch that shot. it's amazing. and in major league baseball, the nationals will finally open their season tomorrow afternoon at home against the braves. the league announced last night that the team's latest round of coronavirus tests came back negative after washington's opening series against the mets was postponed on friday after players tested positive. as for the four players who testified positive, there are seven players and two staff in quarantine because of contact tracing. the nats are expected to hold a workout this afternoon. it was supposed to be my son's first baseball game over the weekend, guys, we're disappointed in y'all, anyway, to anaheim, california, a historic night for the angels two-way star shohei ohtani, ohtani, a solo home run on the first inning. the first pitcher to bat second in the lineup since 1903. wow. on the mound, ohtani struck out seven batters with nine pitches clocked at 100 miles an hour. the 106-mile-per-hour fastball is the fastest thrown so far this season. but his outing was cut short, after taking a cleat to the ankle while covering a play at a play at home. ouch. the angels later said he wasn't removed because of injury, and that he was just sore. fingers crossed. ohtani said his leg felt fine after the game, adding that the collision wasn't as bad as it looked. and he will be re-evaluated today. after his exit, last night's game came down to the final frame, tied at the bottom of the ninth with two runners on base for the angels. >> one of the great stories on this angel roster this year -- walled out to left center field. and it's gone! >> wow, the angels walk off on a three-run homer defeating the white sox 7-4. now, there's this, at the conclusion of the first weekend of the new baseball season, my baltimore orioles are sit ago top the american league east. the o's are one of three teams without a loss after a series sweep of the boston red sox yesterday. an 11-3 romp at fenway park. yes. let's go os. time for the weather. let's go to meteorologist bill karins for a check on the forecast. bill, good morning. >> hey, kasie, good morning, hope you had a great weekend. sorry about the baseball game. hope you get that that this week. as far as the weather, pretty quiet, we're starting offer with a storm system in the north rockies. today's severe threats in areas of minnesota. we'll watch minneapolis. hail, not anything widespread. tomorrow, it shifts from the south from wichita to kansas city, by the time we get to wednesday, it looks like little rock area to mississippi but, kasie, here's the bottom line, it is a beautiful monday out there across the country. enjoy it. look at these warm temperatures. >> sounds great to me. bill karins, thank you so much for being here this morning. we'll see you tomorrow, my friend. and still ahead here, hundreds of families in florida have been told to evacuate after new 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evacuate. governor ron desantis says crews are working to prevent a, quote, catastrophic flood situation. nbc news correspondent sam brock has the details. >> reporter: breach in this florida waste water reservoir is getting bigger as manatee county remains under a local state of emergency. >> what we're looking at now is trying to prevent, and respond to, if need be, a real catastrophic flood situation. >> reporter: a leaky man-made pond filled with salt water mixed with nitrogen and ammonia threatening to burst. the florida national guard, air dropping pumps in. candice kay and her friends and family, forced to flee. >> as much as i don't want to leave my home because of worrying about anything happening, i'm terrified of my 7-year-old having to go through something catastrophic. >> reporter: hundreds of home threatened to leave the area. omar's business is right on the edge of the zone. >> if we get sick from something that could have been prevented. >> reporter: but state and environmental officials say there's no threat of radioactive water. >> southern pond as we mention said mainly seawater. >> for those hearing radioactive, you're saying that's not a concern? >> correct. >> reporter: as with the thousands of gallons, scientists say that will affect the ecosystem. >> algae blooms, what they do, they block off oxygen. and fish gent for oxygen in the water suddenly start to suffocate. >> our thanks to nbc's sam brock for that report. all right, coming up. dad, it's a video call. hold the phone in front of you. how's that? get...get mom. 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>> kasie, i think what's remarkable is the more you hear about a target the more it becomes a target and that's sort of the contagion effect we've seen over the last month. what's also worse, we're seeing the pandemic end and things starting to unroll. and we've seen that in boulder county attack and washington, d.c., that brings to us the question of how do you secure the capitol which is the people's building and was meant to be open. and they have innovative ideas in the general honore report which was invisible fences. qrfs, sort of collapsable perimeters which are all good ideas. but if the signature has become so intense around the capitol that people are focused on this place, it just increases the number of potential assailants. and i'm sure if you're a law enforcement officer like this cap doll police you're very worried right now every day you go to work there could be an incident like this. so, i don't know there's a good answer or a good example to point to. but the looks like the capitol which was the only place in d.c. that was not kind of a fortress. if you went to fbi headquarters or the white house down the street. you know, that was a fortress. it's very difficult to get into. and i think the capitol will be that way for some time. and maybe the approach is to incrementally sort of let the guard down over time. you know in increments with the intensity around this target hopefully lifts as the year goes on. >> i mean, is part of the problem just the fact that people have learned how open the capitol is? perhaps they didn't fully understand that. i mean, i know that having gone there to work every day for ten years. but clearly now, people know. >> yeah. i think so. i mean, i did not know it, as somebody who works in government a lot. i didn't go to the capitol until recently, really. you know, the last six, seven years. so it was kind of shocking for me to go there and know that i could actually walk into did or you could check into it. i thought that was great, right? you have the american citizens which pay for their government, and they have their representatives there and they can get there. and that's part of the spirit of the capitol. at the same point, i think people realize now, not just as the capitol, but as a place that you can draw attention to yourself. this individual, no ideological cause seems to come out doesn't seem to be a terrorism case. but why did they choose the capitol? they probably chose the capitol because he's seen it so frequently on the news and he know that is where he could go to draw attention to what he was trying to do. that's sort of the danger of the media feedback loop when these attacks and other attacks occur, it creates a contagion effect. there's no way to stem that because this discussion about how to defend the capitol and the investigation into january 6th is going to go on for many months now. so, it's just a problem that we'll have to wrestle with. >> clint watts, thanks for being here this morning. thank you also for the essay that you published in the last couple of days about your daughter pepper. and her needing to go back to school. and what that means. i would commend everyone to check it out onor twitter feed. it was really moving. thanks very much, clint. >> thank you, kasie, appreciate it. the u.s. and iran may be one step closer to returning to iran nuclear deal. the state department on friday announced tehran has agreed to indirect talks on returning to the agreement. negotiations will begin next week in vienna. the discussions focus on which american sanctions could be lifted in exchange for iran cutting back its production of nuclear fuel and allowing inspections. the former real agreement may still be far off. still a look here, we'll take a look at s.a.g. award winners, plus why "bridgerton" can inspect a new head male lead? 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does it change how you view whether we need a more secure fence or some other way of making sure that the capitol police force is able to stay safe? >> good morning, kasie. it's great to be on with you. and i appreciate the opportunity to be up way too early and to be talking about important issues like security of the capitol. look, i've long been conscious, as i commute to the capitol in delaware regularly. that i communicate to and work in a place that is one of the top terrorist targets in the world. for much of the time i've. serving there, the last decade, i assumed it was a place that international terrorists might target again one day. and i'm more concerned in domestic terrorists. and friday, we saw another tragic loss of life by u.s. capitol police. and they deserve our attention, our investment, our priority in making sure that they are as well supported, as well coordinated with intelligence and resources as they possibly can be. i recognize that the capitol is also an important symbol of democracy, not just here within the united states, but globally. and so to have it rimmed with a high impenetrable fence with barbed wire is not a good feel since the january 6th insurrection. i have a dot of confidence in senator amy klobuchar and the rules committee who are working through different ways to strengthen the capitol and strain the capitol police without losing the openness and accessibility that's so important for the capitol. but for now, i think we have to put security first and plan in a thorough and diligent way what we're going to going forward to still make it accessible to the american people. while keeping the officers and the many people who serve there safe. >> can you reassure capitol police officers that they're going to have the money and the resources to do their jobs? the union head was out with a statement over the weekend saying that there are 233 officers short of where they need to be. that young officers are coming up and saying they're looking for different opportunities. that many people are going to be retiring. what can you say to them about what resources you, as members of congress, are going to commit to them? >> as a member of the appropriations committee, i would commit to robust funding for the security of the capitol. because, frankly, we need experienced, seasoned law enforcement officers working at the capitol. it's a difficult job. because it's so open. because there's so many people coming in and out. and yet, you have to remain vigilant. so, i think we need to invest in having the highest quality and best-trained police force possible for this important building in our nation. >> let's talk policy. here for a second. the president's infrastructure plan. the white house is still seeming to suggest that they think they might get some bipartisan support for some of this. i'll be honest with you, having seen what's happened the last year, i am seriously skeptical that that's possible. do you think there's going to be a republican who votes for this plan when it comes to the floor of the senate? >> kasie, i don't think there will be a republican who votes for a $2 trillion plan that does a wide range of things and also raises taxes. i do think there are republicans who would vote for pieces of this plan. so, if in the next few weeks we diligently work to put forward a piece of this plan that addresses, for example, water, clean water, waste water infrastructure like broadband, perhaps each more of the expensive pieces like roads, bridges and tunnels, we can get bipartisan support for that. but the boldness, the sweep and scope of what president biden has put forward as a framework that included a lot of forward-looking investments. not just in electric vehicles and charging stations but in climate resiliency, i don't think we're going to see republican support for that. so my caucus has a simple choice to make, do we invest time over the next couple of weeks in trying to negotiate the bipartisan piece first. and then by reconciliation do the bolder and bigger things? or do we one big package and move? my hunch is we will try seriously the former. that's what i'm going to be doing, continuing to talk to republican colleagues about what they're willing to work with us on. but as we saw with the american rescue plan, which has already delivered an enormous amount of badly need help to americans in every state and territory, president biden is insistent that we move. so we're not going to wait for months and months. we're going to negotiate as best we can. i think between now and at most memorial day, and then we're going to move ahead with what's possible. >> so, senator, do you think you're going to get permission to use this procedural maneuver, reconciliation, at additional times. right now if you move with this infrastructure plan as you outline, you ruse reconciliation, that's your last chance before the midterm elections? do you think that the parliamentarian is going to let you do it again, so you'll have another bill in 2022 that you could pass with just the 50 democrats that you have? >> to be clear, there's a -- there's an effort that senator schumer is making to get yet another opportunity. i do think we'll have another chance next year. but i think whether or not we'll have several more chances, which is part of an obscure parliamentary interpretation, i have no idea. the parliamentarian is probably now the best newly known official in the senate who folks watching didn't know existed six weeks ago. >> i'm sure. >> and it's up to elizabeth. she'll have to make a hard judgment call about given the history of the bill and its previous use whether or not we can amend the reconciliation act we've already passed. i certainly hope so, because i think we need to continue to make progress. president biden was elected with the most votes of any elected president in modern history -- in history, period. because of the crisis we're in. and we are making dramatic progress towards ending this pandemic. here in our state of delaware, governor carney is doing a strong job. he's just announced that this week, every delawarean over 16 will be eligible to get vaccinated. 500,000 delawareans have been vaccinated out of 900,000 and we're making strong progress across the country, vaccinating 4 million people in a day, just in the last few days. >> all right. senator chris coons, thank you so much for being up early with us. we really appreciate your perspective today. so, thank. and i'm sure i'll see you soon. and earlier on in the show, we asked all of you, why are you awake? >> lou tweeted, i'm up early because i'm getting half-price easter candy at our grocery store before they sell out. that's way to do it! and liz shares this story. i am up way too early because i am pug sitting for my daughter and this silly pug doesn't like sleeping in. i hear that. and thank you very much to the person who sent me that old-school 1983 photo of cal ripken. i love it. let's go, os. coming up on "morning joe," dueling voices on georgia's controversial new voting law. we'll hear from geoff duncan and erica thomas. don't go anywhere. 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