them minors who witnessed george floyd's death. one of them was a third grader who was with her cousin at the scene of floyd's arrest. before that we heard emotional testimony from the teenage cousin of that younger eyewitness. her name, darnella. she was 17 years old last may when george floyd died. she's the one who recorded the nine-plus minute video of his death that arguably triggered both this trial and the global movement for racial justice. today in court she described what she saw. >> did you see anything happening there on the ground as you were working towards cup foods with your cousin? >> yes, i see a man on the ground and i see a cop kneeling down on him. >> was there anything about the scene you didn't want your cousin to see? >> yes. what was that? >> a man in fear, begging for his life. i heard george floyd saying, i can't breathe. please get off me. i can't breathe. he cried for his mom. he was in pain. it seemed like he knew -- he knew it was over for him. >> we expect to hear from two additional witnesses who are minors, all of them are testifying off-camera because of their age. earlier we heard testimony from donovan williams, who witnessed it as well. he said he called 911 and described what was on the scene because, in his words, he thought it was murder. >> at some point did you make a 911 call? >> that's correct. i did call the police. >> why did you do that? >> because i believe i witnessed a murder. >> and so you felt the need to call police? >> i felt the need to call police, call the police. >> there were police there, right? >> there were police there. >> why didn't you just talk to them about it? >> i believe that they -- we just didn't have no connection. >> joining me now, my colleague shaquille brewster covering the trial in minneapolis and also joining me david henderson, civil rights attorney and former prosecutor and keith mayes, african-american professor at the university of minnesota. shaq, let me get you started here. we're at a break. catch us up. sort of what the morning has been about. there was a bit of a back and forth about how much of these minor witnesses would be seen or heard on camera. >> that's right, chuck. you know this morning clearly has been about hearing from the bystanders, hearing from people who thought for themselves, not focusing just on that video but the people -- the person who shot the video, recorded the video. the witness and bystander who was the most vocal person in that video and now you're hearing from some of the minors there, 17-year-old, third grader there watching and hearing george floyd fearing for his life. that's what the focus has been all throughout the morning. i think a few things you're hearing from inside the courtroom from the reporters who are able to watch the interaction and reaction from the jury, you're getting a sense that the jury has been focused and listening intently. we knew yesterday the jury was really connecting with what they heard from mr. williams, that he turned to them, he looked them in the eye. he would explain different martial arts and check-hold terms to them clearly. there was a connection there and it seemed something that was built upon today, many jurors taking notes throughout the testimony. one thing that the court reporter -- one of the two reporters in that room, one thing that they said was when we heard from darnella, that was the young woman who shot the video, most of the jurors weren't taking notes, they were listening to her testimony directly. you get a sense of how emotional this all is. and then one other thing, you're getting a sense of the tension that can exist between the defense attorney and some of these witnesses. you really heard that during mr. williams' testimony as the defense attorney would try to say you were becoming angry and mr. williams would say, i don't want to be painted as angry. i was under control. what i saw was murder. you get a sense of the complexities how that happens in the courtroom, the tensions, what each side is trying to point out. of course, the defense attorney is trying to make significant points talking about the crowds that were gathering, for example. that was something he even mentioned of his questioning of darnella, talking about the level -- how animated they got and how loud they got as the officers were trying to restrain mr. floyd. you're getting a sense of going through the people who saw it themselves, trying to get away from the video but it was that video that still remains the focus of all of this, chuck. >> i'm glad you brought up the back and forth between the defense and mr. williams. i want to play two excerpts of that and, david henderson, i want to ask you about it on the other side. let's play the first side and then let's go into the second one, control room, that gets into what shaq just referred to about this idea he was angry. let's take a listen to these two back-and-forths. >> so it's fair to say you had not observed any prior contact between minneapolis police department and mr. floyd? >> no. >> you were not aware the police had been dealing with mr. floyd 15 minutes prior to your arrival? >> not at all. >> you testified that as you were observing mr. floyd on the ground, you observed blood coming from his nose or mouth area, right? >> correct. you could see he was bleeding. >> right. i have watched the video. but you would not have been aware three minutes prior to your arrival, an ambulance was called specifically because he was bleeding from the mouth? in that statement you said, like i really wanted to beat the [ bleep ] out of the police officers. you said that? >> yeah, i did. that's how i felt. >> you were angry? >> no, you can't paint me as angry. i was in a position where i had to be controlled, controlled prose fessionalism. i was angry -- >> object as nonresponsive. >> so, mr. anderson, what are they trying to accomplish here with this witness? they try to just disqualify his eyewitness account completely with that line of questioning? >> i think they're basically just trying to poke holes into it but as i say that, that's not an effective way to do it and it's really seen as a limitation in the way this witness was prepared. what he should have been told was, listen, if you start getting questions like this, just answer them directly as possible. were you angry? of course i was angry. i never saw anyone get murdered before. if they keep asking questions they set themselves up for the answers like they had received from following two witnesses, i wish i could have done more. this was an area you should quit while you're ahead. don't press them with these types of questions. >> it's interesting what you said there about mr. williams, do you think he wasn't prepared very well? i'm just curious based on your first answer there. >> typically you don't have your witnesses take notes to the stand. and also the way some of the responses were a bit choppy, no, it didn't sound like he was properly prepared to take the stand. that's one of the biggest issues preparing a case for trial, lee. the movie "a few good men" covers that very well. you have to talk to your witnesses, know them, the rate they will be asked questions in the courtroom. so they feel comfortable being themselves. the few time we've got that from these witnesses, they're wonderful people. one of my favorite lines, that's beautiful, young man. appreciate it judge. and then shelden williams asked niecely to take his knee off george floyd's neck. >> i want to get into that and get into darnella and her observations as well. in fact, let's play sot three if we can, guys, and quickly have the top four ready. >> so tell the jury what you observed, what you heard when you stopped to look at what was happening there at the scene. >> i heard george floyd saying, i can't breathe. please, get off me. i can't breathe. he cried for his mom. he was in pain. it seemed like he knew what they were doing, it was over for him. >> keith, i want to play -- before i get your next question, i want to play one more sot from him and that is the fact darnella herself felt threatened. let's take a listen to that. >> did you feel threatened by the police officers? >> yes. >> did you feel threatened by mr. chauvin? >> yes. >> why is that? >> he seemed like -- i don't know, i felt like i was in danger when he did that. he rubbed me the wrong way. i didn't understand why they would do that, what we did before to make them do that. that's why i felt threatened. i don't understand why the knee, even needed it at all. >> keith, between that testimony and was david henderson was just referring to with the younger girl, 9-year-old's testimony about noting that the ambulance people had to -- first they asked nicely and it took them to having to physically remove mr. chauvin off george floyd in order for them to get there, it's a very -- i know had it a raw impact on me. just describe the impact that testimony just had on you. >> i mean, the impact on me was incredible. i'm sitting there watching it live with everybody else. but i think it was also a brilliant way for attorney -- for the prosecution to actually combat this narrative of the angry black witness on the stand who was the angry black resident on the scene when he was filming it as well as some of the other ones as well, which raises questions about the picture that the defense wants to paint about the angry black community that was responding to everything that was going on out there. so, chuck, i love the fact it was reversed, that in many ways the folks who felt threatened was darnella and her younger cousin. the people who felt threatened was miller, donald miller, who also felt just by watching, just by observing, they felt that they were underthreat by the way in which officer thao and officer chauvin was responding to them. i felt that in many ways what the prosecution was doing was trying to reverse a narrative that's really old, playing on old racial troves about the unruly, angry black george floyd who was resisting in the car and on the ground and also those around him who are gathering just to watch him witness and maybe even to cajole politely, to have the officer stop doing what they're doing. they were not angry but they were just concerned residents in the neighborhood. i think i love that the way in which the prosecution was framing this. >> so, david henderson, you know, you were sort of getting at this in your last answer to me by noting, here the defense attorney wanted to make a big deal out of the facts so you didn't know the ambulance had been called when you called the police noting to donald williams. and then we got the testimony from the youngest witness there saying she saw the ambulance twice in some way forcibly get the officer out of the way to treat mr. floyd. i'm a lay person here but it looks like the defense had a pretty bad morning. >> that's exactly right. there are two issues here, lawyers tend to be bad in dealing with emotional content. i've had to work with a number of children in court in very difficult circumstances. once you do that, you realize children are infinitely better witnesses are than adults are because they will get straight to the point and make that point in a way where you cannot argue with it, saying that derek chauvin's knee on george floyd's neck is one thing but saying it when an emt was asking him nicely to remove it and he didn't, i would be making powerpoints slides with that on it as my key them right now. it's hard to believe a more effective piece of testimony will come out of this trial. and it's a mistake to keep drilling down on witnesses when they say that. they shouldn't have asked the questions of either young women we heard from and limit mr. williams to clarifying what he does and does not know in the context of choke-holds and what he saw when george floyd was being killed. >> are you surprised what you saw, david, the defense -- this seems to me these are the first witnesses they're going to be laying out -- are you surprised how aggressive they're trying to get to push back immediately and not let the prosecution lay out at least the first part here a little bit? i know that surprised me a little bit. >> it does and it doesn't. this is where i have to be honest and say i can provide balanced legal analysis but i also have a point of view in this case. i have a strong belief about what i think is right. i think that is for derek chauvin to be convicted. but as i say that, it passed towards the defense and they were not following it with the way they approached the case so far. going after these witnesses this way is a mistake. the only thing the defense has done this morning that i have seen is, they had the defendant sit up, remove his mask. he didn't hide from trying to be identified. that was wise to do. being combative was a mistake. what they need to do is express compassion and realize it was wrong and they're willing to take a slight amount of accountability. that would be a pathway forward for derek chauvin. but unfortunately, they're not taking it. >> keith mayes, paint me a picture of sort of how the community in minneapolis is watching this trial, how it's being consumed. is this one of those where certain people, it's every word people are on edge? how would you describe it? >> yeah, i was about to say, chuck, i think you're right, every word people in the community are hanging on to every witness, every testimony just to see if there are signs and i'm hearing it this morning that the case may be going favorably towards george floyd and the familip the community, but, you know, chuck, that pendulum can swing back any moment. the next witness can be a different ball game. and you know, i love what david is saying, but the fact you need a unanimous conviction, is that that one juror could hang it and really send this into an acquittal or hung jury by the way in which the defense is putting on the case. i think they are trying to make george floyd and the community out to be boogiemen. it's not hard to see one juror can buy it. and so we will see. but the community is waiting with bated breath. >> well, keith, as you laid out numerous times, there's a strong reason why you're skeptical considering what we have seen in the past with past police officers under these circumstances. so i think a lot of people understand why there's quite a bit of skepticism on this trial for some parts of the community. but we shall see. shaquille brewster, give us a preview of what we should expect this afternoon after the lunch break. >> well, we're not getting any advance on who the witnesses will be. we know we at least have one or two more minors. the minors will testify consecutively. that was part of themotion we heard this morning because the state filed a motion to not only turn off the camera but audio broadcast as these minors were testifying, saying some of them objected to it, they were uncomfortable with their voices being out there and aired on national television. the judge sided with -- or sided with really a media coalition and decided to keep up his ruling and keep the audio there and just not play the video. but we will get more witnesses. the state will continue to lay out its case. once we get through the minors, we know the police chief at some point will come and testify, suggesting derek chauvin used excessive force. there's another officer, a sergeant who arrived there, who will testify about the use of force. there's other people who will come up and testify. we don't know the order when that will happen though, chuck. >> shaquille brewster on the ground for us in minneapolis. shaq, thank you. david henderson, our legal analyst and keith mayes of the university of minnesota, i really appreciate having you all help us unpack what we heard so far today. thank you. as you know, msnbc will return to coverage of the trial when it begins after the lunch break in approximately an hour. up ahead here on "meet the press daily," we have serious new warnings from the cdc about a potential fourth coronavirus surge. we're live in arizona where the government just lifted all restrictions on businesses as the president and public health officials are warning against doing just that. but first, here's a look at life after lockdown. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home. hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor? 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what do you chuck this up to you? >> i don't know, chuck, i ask you how is it different from every other warning we had before in this country where we've seen so many things play out? i think back to debbie birx's comments about sunday how after the initial surge we had the best practices and every time we have these warnings, we seem to open too soon. in fact in many states you're seeing deaths and hospitalizations go up again. it's crisp that we open too fast in those states. and director walensky's warning comes from the fact the trends they're likely seeing are very similar to what's been in europe and areas where b.1.1.7 became predominant as a strain and where the cases just shoot up. that's where we're looking and why we need to keep indoor capacity restrictions in place and mask mandates in place. >> let's talk about the w.h.o. report. is there anything in it today that makes you feel as if you know more today than you knew yesterday about the origins of this virus? >> this is a complicated question, chuck, that i think we're going to keep talking about. you know the report, which was a diplomatic effort between w.h.o. and china, experts from china, is not a w.h.o. secretariat investigative report. so this is not similar to things we might do, for example, with security as secretary-general of the w.h.o. what he said, and what's interesting, even after the report in which you talked about before which said now the likely route is still the idea it may have transferred from animals to humans, hours later you see the w.h.o. director come out and say he would have liked to have seen more information, more efforts shared to look at the idea this could have been an accidental leak from a lab. maybe that doesn't change the narrative eventually but the fact there was a delay for about a year to get those examples and secretary of state antony blinken said the same thing, it's concerning. we need a transparent effort and better cooperative efforts for w.h.o. to do this type of reporting and investigative reporting the deputy general was talking about today. >> do you think the evidence to an animal being the sort of carrier here into the human population, did they have enough evidence to back that up, or is that just -- were those just some assumptions? >> well, i think it's -- look, the idea this is something that -- initially came from animals is very strong. the data, the science, both the science saying this is likely a naturally evolved virus because it is basically similar to other bat viruses. when we talk about lab leak, the potential it may have been released from lab, it's not intentional but the fact maybe it lived in an animal in a lab or something else. so i think what we need is probably a more independent evaluation to be able to say for sure. i think most likely, you may still end up finding it was a spillover event from an animal. but to me this goes back to the fact we have the international health regulations, the idea of how countries relate to each other when it comes to these type of issues and reporting. it has no teeth. when china says we don't want to share this information for you for a year, there's not a lot we can do and we need to better have conversations between sovereign states about when these events happen, how we can promote transparency without having the kind of events you're seeing culturally here in the u.s. when you start talking about this you see increased targeting of american asians. how do we talk about this in a better way? >> do we have an idea when this virus started circulating in china? i feel like that timeline is still moving, if you will. >> yes, this is one of the things the director general talked about today as well, woe like to see earlier samples, particularly from september 2019. so on sunday the prior cdc director, robert redfield, said he thinks this may have been circulating a few months beforehand. we don't know yet. we don't have evidence for that. we do know that there was a period of time that china may have known there was human-to-human transmission, maybe it was a few weeks into december that we got reports independently of other people that live in china this was happening that we didn't hear about it more commonly from the chinese government. i don't know that we have enough evidence to say how much longer before that it would have been going out. that's why that transparency, international cooperation looking into that is going to be so important moving forward. it helps us build the resilience we need to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> right. well, it's pretty disconcerting that after this report comes out, all we have is much more questions. i think that proves we need another investigation, fair? >> fair enough. i would call for that. i think that's what the director general said as well for w.h.o. >> dr. bhadelia, as always, i appreciate your expertise with us. thank you. >> thank you. and we've got updates now from two states on the ongoing nationwide efforts to restrict and expand access. last year democratic governor murphy was joined by democratic lawmakers who would expand early voting in new jersey. the new law allows residents for the first time vote up to ten days before a election at specially designated polling places including adding weekend hours and weekend voting for general election. before signing governor murphy told nbc news this new law, quote, defiantly contrasts to what republicans are doing on election administration in states like georgia. and speaking of which, another lawsuit was filed today challenging georgia's new election law that critics say targets of voters of color and at least the third suit filed, including one from the georgia naacp. at the same time opponents of the law are pressuring atlanta-based companies like delta and coca-cola to speak out against the law and threatening a boycott if they do not. we will see how they respond. coming up -- a funeral service is about to get under way for the 51-year-old fallen police officer eric talley, who heroically died trying to save others during last week's deadly grocery store mass shooting. we're live in colorado. that's next. t. fermentation? 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>> well, this is an extremely emotional day for them, chuck. the ceremony you're seeing right now, you see there the bagpipes were provided by a funeral procession, some 500 police cars from not only across the state of colorado but the entire country, there was a new jersey license plate among the cars there, proceeded through the street to pay tribute to a fallen hero and it's worth remembering his sacrifice, what happened over a week ago as gunfire rang out at that supermarket. officer eric talley was the first to step into that line of fire. he lost his life as a result, but he was the last person to lose his life according to the police that fateful day. and the police chief attributes his sacrifice to saving dozens of lives and that's a message that she said she wants to get across, especially to his family, his loved ones. we heard from his father talking about what a great person he was, what a great father he was to his seven children and that how he wasn't surprised that officer talley was the first to step into that supermarket. take a listen. >> he told me, he said, i'm trained not to -- i'm trained to wait for backup. i'm trained not to go in until someone comes. and he said, papa, i don't think -- i don't think i can do that. i don't think i can stand around and wait for someone else to get there when people need help. >> and today's program includes a poem written by his seven children. it was actually a christmas gift to their father, talking about how he was their unsung hero, praying, he was a religion person, praying to the angels to guide him home safely every single day. now that unsung hero being recognized not only here in colorado but across the country as a true hero. chuck? >> erin mclaughlin, thank you for bringing that to us. up next -- an ongoing fight over the tightest election of 2020, and it's one of the closest federal races in american history. but first a quick look at the latest vaccination efforts happening across the country. - hi, i'm steve. - i'm lea. and we live in north pole, alaska. - i'm a retired school counselor. i swim every day. i like to grill, salmon mostly. as i got older, my hearing was not so good so i got hearing aids. my vision was not as good as it used to be, got a change in prescription. but the this missing was my memory. we've been taking prevagen for around eight years and i just didn't have to work so hard to remember things. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. welcome back. let's turn to the latest on decision 2020. yes, that 2020. in the tightest election of last year and one of the tightest federal elections in american history, republican congresswoman marionette miller meeks was certified the winner in the open seat of iowa's second district. she won by six votes and seated provisionally by the congress. but she's asking the house recommendation committee to review the votes. hart claims there are 222 outstanding ballots to give her the victory. she did not take her case to court. instead she decided to take the challenge directly to the house of representatives, controlled by democrats and, of course, that now makes this look like a highly politicized fight. republicans are calling on speaker pelosi to dismiss the case. they say speaker pelosi is ignoring the will of the voters to widen her majority. some are calling hypocrisy after the house gop objected to the electoral college count on january 6th. joining me from davenport, iowa, my nbc colleague diane caldwell, part of the second district there. from the very beginning, i have not understood the rational for bypassing the state process here the way democrats have done. they wanted go down this path. it seems like it was always a politically precarious path. the last time this was used like this one could argue the house has neff been the same since. >> yeah, well, chuck, republicans are extremely happy to have democrats challenge this in the house of representatives, especially after democrats continuously pouncing on republicans for trying to overturn the election results on january 6th of the former president donald trump. so they are using this as a very, very big political fund-raising component. they are happy to talk about it. meanwhile, democrats, speaker pelosi said, this is a law. there are many challenges each congress to election results for congressional elections, which is true. it happens multiple times a year. there's also another one going on that we're not talking about because this one is so close. and this one could actually be overturned. while these challenges are common, congress actually overturning them is extremely rare. it's only happened three times in history, and republicans are saying that speaker pelosi is trying to steal the election. speaker pelosi, is saying on the other hand, it's just the law. they're doing what they're supposed to be doing but it's making some democrats, especially the moderates, extremely uneasy saying, yes, we have the legal authority to do this, but is this what we should be doing, especially given this current political circumstances, chuck. >> is there evidence that indicates the wrong person got certified the winner? i mean, ultimately, and, you know, it doesn't appear as if that's been well litigated. i know the democrats claim they're sitting out there but they seem to bypass the state process, which, frankly, i think for many public consumers delegitimizes the claim a bit. >> yes, that's right. and that's one of the things republicans are saying, as you mentioned. rita hart did not go to the iowa court system, which is traditionally the next step. instead what republicans are making the point of, she went to a democratically controlled house of representatives, where the house could if this process continues down the path that it is continuing on, take a vote on whether to overturn this election. again, putting moderates in a very difficult position. but also, chuck, i have been on the ground here today and i have been asking a lot of people who live in davenport and iowa's second congressional district what they think about this, and most of them aren't paying attention. they -- >> i didn't think they would be. >> not really following it, heard about it. this is something that's very big inside the washington beltway and also for political activists, especially republican political activists who are raising a lot of money off of this, chuck. >> but this will define the political terrain in iowa's second district. here's the other thing, the harder democrats challenge this, the harder it will be for them to win this seat back, which really they had no business losing in the first place. >> that's absolutely right. this is a -- usually a democratic seat. the republican won. and this republican has run many, many, times in the past. she finally won by six votes. people are saying that is because of the former president, donald trump, helping to put her over the finish line. but it could really spoil, you know, the political mood in this district and among many people around the country, chuck. >> the whole thing seems like a lot of risk, and i'm not sure what's going to be gained on this one for the democrats. >> right. >> leigh ann caldwell on the ground in davenport, thank you very much. up next -- we're getting our first look inside a custom border patrol facility housing some of the 6,000 children in cpd custody, but it is a government-guided tour. that's next. welcome back. there are currently nearly 6,000 children in border custody and for the first time in the biden administration we are seeing video from inside one of the facilities. we are just getting the video in now, and the biden administration allowed a television camera in. while this is our first look into one of these facilities, again, to remind you, it's a government-guided look, plain and simple. we are only seeing what they let us see. while our own antonia hill is on the ground in texas. with those caveats, what have we seen and gotten access to? >> reporter: i am in front of the processing center here on the border in texas and we have received pretty alarming and critical information that reporters have been asking for, as you mentioned, for days and weeks now. there are 4,100 people detained inside the facility behind me, a series of tent structures here, and compare that to the 250 intended capacity for proper social distancing during covid, so this is massive overflow, and what is fascinating about the data we received, 3,400 of the 4,100 are children. 39 of those kids have been in this facility for at last 15 days. to give viewers a little context here, this is a border patrolled processing facility. these are not the shelters, yet, but we hear they are going to build additional tent and proper shelters for kids, and these processing facilities are not meant to have kids more than 72 hours, and that's required by law, and then they are to go into a foster care shelter system here, and we have kids that should have been out of there after 72 hours and they have been there for 15 days. this is one of the facilities that has been at the center of controversial as not just reporters have asked for access, but republicans hit the biden administration hard on this, and you know i have covered this over the years and often inside of these processing facilities that are not meant for long-term proper care, you know, people are experiencing, you know, often unsanitary conditions and they tell lawyers they have not seen the sun for a period of time and having trouble getting access to food, and reporters are processing the images and are concerned about the number of kids inside this facility, chuck. >> yeah, it's a massive number and it's not clear that they would have the resources to handle some of the more sensitive situations that you could expect for any traumatized child. antonia, thank you. thank you all for being with us this hour. we will be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily", and msnbc coverage continues of the derek chauvin trial. m... what... you alright? 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