a dramatic day in and around a courtroom in minneapolis. opening statements in the trial of derek chauvin, the former police officer charged in the death of george floyd. the video and the plea heard from george floyd, i can't breathe, as he lay there dying with chauvin's knee on his neck for about nine minutes. it was gut-wrenching to watch, played in the courtroom and on networks across this country and around the world. that is where the prosecution began. >> you will be able to hear mr. floyd saying, please, i can't breathe. you will hear mr. floyd as he's crying out -- you hear him at some point cry out for his mother when he's being squeezed there. he was very close to his mother, you will learn. you'll hear him say, tell my kids i love them. it does not let up and he does not get up. even when mr. floyd does not have a pulse, it continues on. it continues on, ladies and gentlemen, even after the ambulance arrives on the scene. >> derek chauvin's defense team opened its case today by saying what you see on that tape does not tell the whole story. >> common sense tells you that there are always two sides to a story. common sense tells us that we need to examine the totality of the circumstances to determine the meaning of evidence and how it can be applied to the questions of reasonableness, of actions and reactions. there is no political or social cause in this courtroom. but the evidence is far greater than nine minutes and 29 seconds. >> we also heard today from the first witness in this trial, the 911 dispatcher who took the call that day. she says she felt something was wrong. she says she called the police officer's superior to warn about the use of force, something she says she had never done before. the charges against chauvin, one count of second-degree unintentional murder, one count of third-degree murder and one count of second-degree manslaughter. his fate will rest in the hands of nine women and five men, 12 jurors to deliberate and two alternates, eight of them white, four of them black and two of them identifying as multiracial. it is the trial of one man accused of taking the life of another. but for so many people across this country, the trial is about so much more. joining me from minneapolis is nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster and president of the national action network and host of politics nation right here on msnbc, reverend al sharpton. shaquille, we could see the prosecution, the defense, derek chauvin, the judge. we could not see the jurors. what were they doing as this trial began? >> reporter: katy, we're really relying on two reporters in that courtroom because of the pandemic, the restrictions laid out by the court. there are only two reporters from all networks who are able to go into that courtroom, and they're rotating a cast of reporters. i want to read some of the notes i've been seeing from them. number one, they say it's hard to get a sense of the emotion of the jury with the masks on. another consequence of this pandemic that we're in, but they're saying that the jurors watched the prosecution's statements and the video attentively. they say they were taking notes. they also made a point to say derek chauvin, the ex-officer on file right now, he looks up at the video as it was playing. he looked up periodically but he was also taking notes, taking copious notes. that's something we noticed throughout the process of jury questioning. as this jury was being assembled, he was always writing on his notepad fairly regularly speaking, he was making notes. the defense also mentioned hog tie. that's a term used and will be explained later in this trial, that the reporters in this room caught the attention of by the jury. outside of that, none of the jurors appear to be overemotional by this account. there were no tears that were seen by the pool notes there. what we know is that many of these jurors, for the first time, based on the questioning that we heard, this is the first time many of them have even seen this entire video clip. many of them, or at least one of them said they have never seen a video of it, only a picture. others only saw newspaper pictures of it. you saw that before the prosecution even played the video, and that will play out as this trial begins, katy. >> we we're seeing that the amount of time his knee was on there was nine minutes 26 seconds. the number we've been going by is 8 minutes 46 seconds. why the discrepancy? >> reporter: the 8 minutes 46 seconds is the time that was initially said he was under the knee of derek chauvin. prosecutors actually said, oh, we miscounted and it was 7 minutes 46 seconds. we had to rely on their account because we didn't see any of the body camera video, we didn't see the evidence. over the past couple months in court filings, in video that has been made public and submitted as part of the evidence, we saw that time was closer to about 9 minutes 30 seconds. you heard today in the courtroom as they were giving the opening statements, both the defense and the prosecution used that time of 9 minutes 29 seconds. so that is something that has shifted over time. that's a consequence of us not seeing the body camera video initially, not having the evidence that the prosecution had at the beginning, and it's also a result of a mistake that investigators made in the beginning in initial court documents when they had, in the criminal complaints, 8 minutes 46 seconds. but now prosecutors made clear that time is 9 minutes 29 seconds. >> so, rev, the prosecution started with that video. they played that video in full. there are a lot of americans out there who have seen pieces of the video, or if they've seen the entirety of the video, they haven't seen it in a year. what did you make of the prosecution beginning the case with all of that? >> i thought it was the right way to start it, because at the end of the day, no matter how you argue this case, whether you are on one side or the other, the real core of this case is that for over nine minutes, this man laid there for almost half of it limp and dying, pleading for his life, saying he couldn't breathe a score of times. calling for his mother who was dead, saying, i love my children, and this police officer, despite the fact that bystanders were arguing and yelling at him, he's dying, stop, this is not going to work, none of them physically going after the officer, standing back yelling at him, respecting his office but also respecting this life that was literally leaving them in their eyes. it was heart-wrenching to watch that today, and i was in the oval floor room. because of covid, only one member of the family can actually sit in the courtroom on both sides, one member of chauvin's family, one member of george floyd's family. so i was in the overflow room provided for the family of george floyd. i was there at the minister who they had do the eulogy at the funeral, and some of the relatives of george had never seen that particular video where the exchange was going down between the bystanders and chauvin and the other officers. they broke down and cried. for them to watch their loved one, their cousin, their brother, his brother was there in court, to watch their cousin literally die and beg for his life was too much for them to take even almost a year later, and it was heart-wrenching for me as many times as i've been in these cases to sit there with that family with tears dripping and watch that video just play out exactly what happened. i think the prosecutor did the right thing by playing and putting in context of why that courtroom is important, even though he said it doesn't have other ramifications, it really does. chauvin is in the courtroom but america is on trial on how it will deal with police accountability. >> rev, you were with the family, you're just laying it out. what was their reaction when the defense gave its opening statement and tried to paint george floyd as somebody who had issues and who was solely responsible for his own death? >> the entire family's position was that even if you're going to argue that case, what does that have to do with your knee on his neck and him begging for his life? chauvin did not know of any other issues he may have had, so they see it as immaterial and they feel it is smearing the man after the man has been killed. and to try the victim rather than to try the situation is offensive to them. it is almost like adding insult to injury or pouring salt into the wound, because at the end of the day, whatever other issues he had, does it justify -- and that's what the jury is going to have to decide -- the actions of chauvin that the bystanders were begging him, chauvin -- not by name, but begging the officer, leave him alone. at one point he threatened the bystanders with pepper spray. i mean, the hostility and the venom. before we went in the courtroom, katy, we had a press conference outside with the family, and i asked everybody to take a knee for 8 minutes 46 seconds, that's the time we thought, and people were again brought to terms with the fact, even in a fit of anger, or if you're making a defense for chauvin that you started this, at some point did it not become intentional that you would not relieve this man's pain, that you wouldn't step up and release your knee from his throat? so whether it was intentional at the third minute, the fourth minute or in the beginning, it really doesn't matter. it becomes criminal when it is intentional. >> reverend al sharpton, shaquille brewster, both of you from minneapolis, gentlemen, thank you very much. let's go now to our legal panel, georgetown former federal prosecutor and officer of chokehold, paul butler, and former attorney, paul rosenberg, both msnbc contributors. paul, prosecution called the 911 dispatcher, and she said essentially she called the cops on the cops. she was watching the surveillance video, watching the arrest unfold, and she said something didn't seem right about what was happening, so she called the police officer's superior and she alerted that man, and she even said, you can call me a snitch. what do you make of her testimony? how important, significant, will it be? >> you know, i thought jenna scurry was a very important witness. she's doing her job as a 911 operator. she testified that what she saw derek chauvin doing to george floyd was different. we heard in the 911 call that she made to the sergeant that she saw officers sitting on george floyd. she says that she knew something was wrong, and that's why she had to call the supervisor. she's never done this before about a use of force by a police officer. so in the prosecution's opening statement, we were told that we would hear stories about law enforcement officers calling the police on the police, people who worked as first responders who were so concerned about what they saw derek chauvin doing that they felt the need to alert supervisors. i think that's going to be very powerful testimony for the jury. >> so we're expected to go back into this trial at 2:30 eastern time, 1:30 local in minneapolis. they're on a lunch break right now at which point the defense will cross-examine the 911 dispatcher. what should we expect from that testimony? >> first of all, i agree with paul, i thought the dispatcher was thoughtful and credible, and the fact she had not asked before for a sergeant to intervene in a situation like this was telling. so what does the defense try and do? what they're going to try and do with this witness and others is point out a couple of things, things she doesn't know, things she didn't see. they will argue, for instance, that she doesn't know all of the circumstances that officer chauvin encountered, and you can begin to try to tell the story of your case through your questions on cross examination. it's ant he's not an easy thing but the defense has a theory that officer chauvin acted appropriately, at least within the bounds of good policing, and that george floyd presented a threat and that he died not of officer chauvin's knee on his neck but rather because he was both unhealthy and his system had drugs in it. you will hear those types of questions. she may say "i don't know" in response to the questions she's asked, but the questions are what matters here. the defense wants the jury to hear those questions because they will hear them repeatedly. one other thing, katy, if i may, and i know paul knows this well. what we say in the end doesn't matter so much. the case will be in the hands of 12 people in three or four weeks. in order to acquit chauvin, which i find unlikely on all counts, they would have to agree unanimously that he was not guilty. but to convict him on any count, they would also have to agree unanimously that else guilty. so the defense attorneys are looking for one vote here or there. any one question with any one witness could sway one juror on one vote. that's a hung jury. that's a mistrial. and from a defense perspective, that's a victory. >> as the defense tries to say that the way derek chauvin acted was proper, how much are they going to rely on what we saw in that last video that was played of the 911 dispatcher felt uncomfortable with, that efrs put in the police cruiser and then put on the ground and restrained on the ground, chuck. >> well, look, there's some real bad facts for officer chauvin. don't misunderstand, katy, what i'm saying, and if you do misunderstand it, it's probably because i'm saying it badly. >> oh, i understand. i understand. >> what they will do is focus on the things that sow confusion. the toxicology report, the pathology report, the autopsy. they'll have their own sets of experts. they'll call witnesses about police use of force. they'll point out that officer chauvin's chokehold was not against minneapolis police department policy at the time. and so a good defense attorney will not question every single thing that the prosecution puts in, and he may even take a pass on questioning some of their witnesses on cross. but he will have a theme, and if he's good at it, he will stick to it and hammer home points that are helpful to his client. folks keep saying this is an easy case for the prosecution. there is no such thing as an easy case for the prosecution. >> chuck rosenberg, paul butler, gentlemen, please stick around for us as we go back into that trial. we are going back, when their back from lunch break. that's 2:30 eastern, 1:30 in minneapolis, stay with us for that. but minnesotans react as day one of the chauvin murder trial gets underway. >> reporter: what happens if there isn't a conviction? >> i can't let myself think about that. i started to and i just started crying. >> more on the case that stands to define not just this moment but the future of race relations in this entire country. and later, after some of the heaviest rainfall in nashville's history, dozens of homes are destroyed and four people are dead. the danger that is still ahead. first up, though, we're watching the white house as president joe biden is about to give an update on the coronavirus vaccine rollout. he's got some news to announce. this as his cdc director warns of, quote, impending doom. impe. ♪let's make lots of money♪ ♪you've got the brawn♪ ♪i've got the brains♪ ♪let's make lots of♪ ♪uh uh uh♪ ♪oohhh there's a lot of opportunities♪ with allstate, drivers who switched saved over $700. saving is easy when you're in good hands. allstate click or call to switch today. any minute now, president joe biden is set to speak on the state of the vaccine rollout. a cdc official now tells nbc news that the president will announce that 90% of the adult population will be eligible for the shots by april 19, and that they will live within five miles of a vaccination site by that date to get closer to every american. as of this afternoon, 140 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine have been distributed in this country, and more than 50 million americans are now fully vaccinated. it's coming fast but not quite fast enough. 21 states have seen an increase in new cases in just the last two weeks, and there are fears that those numbers could rise again as a more contagious u.k. variant spreads in this country. but it's not just the new variants that is causing concern, it's also states reopening and the reality of pandemic fatigue. today the director of the cdc pleaded with americans to hold the line just a little while longer. >> i'm going to pause here. i'm going to lose the script and i'm going to reflect on the recurring feeling i have of the pandemic. we have so much to look forward to, so much promise and potential for where we are, and so much reason for hope, but right now i'm scared. i'm speaking today not necessarily as the cc director and not only as the cdc director, but as a wife, a mother and a daughter, so ask you to please hold on a little while longer. i so badly want to be done. i know you all so badly want to be done. we're almost there, but not quite yet. >> that's the most pleading we've heard from her. impending doom, wow. sam brock is in new orleans and field professor epidemiologist at the fielding school of public health, dr. ann moyn. sam brock, tell us what you're seeing. >> reporter: it started at 10:00 this morning until 10:00 a.m. tomorrow. and i was listening to the two sides of this, the personal behavior side and also the vaccination side. over my shoulder, you're looking at the 6,500 people they're hoping to vaccinate in this 24-hour marathon. it's by appointment only until 7:00, and from 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m., anyone can come in. they moved essentially to a baseball park here. i interviewed six tennis players from the university of new orleans who are from germany, france and australia. the sense of appreciation they had for the fact they were able to come out here, between 19 and 22 years old, and get vaccinated was acute, because in their own countries, they can't get vaccines right now. they're not sure when they will ever get the vaccine, if it's not 2022, if it's later this year, they're not sure. some of the pullback and hesitancy you're seeing in communities, you really see where this country is evolving and where we're trying to go. let's talk to an organizer of this event, dawn peavy. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> how emboldened are you by the cars you're seeing right now? >> this makes my heart so happy, bring the vaccine to the community. as you mentioned, the appreciation and the smiles on people's faces is so powerful. it's been a great day. >> some of the local polling here from the npr station showed that 57 of the 64 parishes of counties in this area showed the black population underrepresented in terms of getting the vaccine. tell us the legwork you've put in for a year now trying to reach those communities. >> we know from community testing we have to eliminate barriers for people to get vaccinated. so we learned in community testing when we go to them, put things in people's backyards, local churches, civic centers in addition to places like this, that is one barrier. uber rides for people to an event like this is another barrier. when we take the learnings from the community testing and we pair what we learn with drive-through flu fairs, we learn how to make this a positive experience for people. >> we talk about this being a vaccine festival, it's festival season in new orleans. you need to be able to hear the deejay over our shoulder. there was a brass band out here today. the opera was out here earlier. how does that help people's psyche right now? >> people in new orleans love a festival or live music, so the ability to have them here serving our employees, having the beautiful weather we have makes us feel like we're at a jazz fest. so just the smiles and what you feel coming from our employees is so powerful today, but also from the public. >> it's a shot of hope, dawn. thank you so much for doing this. can i just emphasize again, the ride or transportation is no obstacle here. they partner with uber. the point is we should be able to afford to get a vaccine. they'll knock this out in 24 hours. katy, back to you. >> trying to do it as fast as possible. dr. moyn, they're trying to get so many people vaccinated. dr. walensky, though, is worried. what is your feeling on where we stand? >> katy, i agree with what dr. walensky said this morning. she voiced worry and concern that we may be en route to seeing what we're seeing right now. as you said, an increase in cases, 10% uptick in 27 states. that is not something to be taken lightly. that means we are starting to see these increases again. we don't have a huge proportion of the population vaccinated yet. we're still at approximately 15% fully vaccinated. that's good news but we have a ways to go before we can start to relax. we're just not there yet. the other thing to consider is that we have had -- we've taken our eye off of testing here in the united states. we're working on a vaccination, so it's very possible these rates could actually be higher than we're seeing in reality, because people are focused on getting vaccinated rather than on getting tested and we don't have the same kind of focus on getting tested for asymptomatics right now. >> let me ask about the real world study the cdc has done on both the efficacy of the pfizer and moderna vaccines. it is quite remarkable, consistent with clinical trial data, a two-dose regimen prevented 90% of infections by two weeks after the second shot. here's what's so interesting because so many americans have gotten their first shot. one dose prevented 80% of infections by two weeks after vaccination. when you couple that with the percentage who have already gotten the virus, some people may be looking at dr. walensky and saying, i just don't see it happening here given how far we are. what do you make of those numbers and that attitude? >> first of all, this study is fantastic news. it's a real world setting study, and it's showing that 80% -- you have 80% protection after one dose of either moderna or pfizer vaccine and 90% after two doses, and that includes both symptomatic and asymptomatic infection, and that is really fantastic news. two caveats here, one, it was done in health care workers, emergency responders, so people who were working. the vast majority were under 50 years of age. we still need to consider what does this mean for people who are potentially older, immunocompromised, other reasons the vaccine may not work as well. that's one thing we need to consider. the second thing is we're only a few months after being vaccinated, so we don't know anything about the durability of this response. already fantastic news but there's still a lot to learn. the second thing is even though we have a lot of people vaccinated, we have more variants circulating in the united states right now, and for those who are not vaccinated, they're more likely to get infected than they were previously, and that's why we're seeing this increase in every age group right now. take michigan, for example, where you're seeing huge increases in cases, in particular in the 30 to 39, 40 to 49 age groups that have not yet been vaccinated, and even in the kids. >> dr. moyn, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but president biden is now speaking so we're going to dip into him. hold on a sec. >> double the goal that i have said. to make that progress, over the last three days we've had a record number of shots in arms with over 10 million shots recorded on the weekend. over 10 million shots in three days. that would have been inconceivable in january. the progress we've made on vaccinaing this country is a great american story. the federal government has stepped up, taken responsibility and launched a massive federal vaccination program. governors and mayors of both political parties, republicans and democrats, have stepped up as well. our military, our national guard, fema, they have all been incredible. health care providers, community leaders from all walks of life. so many volunteers of all ages and backgrounds stepped up as well. my fellow americans, look at what we have done in the past 10 weeks. no other country has come close. 100 million shots in less than 60 days, and now we're moving to the next 100 million shots in just 40 days. you heard me say many times before, our progress in vaccination is a stunning example that there is nothing, nothing this country cannot do if we put our minds to it and we do it together. but as i've also said, i will always give it to you straight, straight from the shoulder. our work is far from over. the war against covid-19 is far from won. this is deadly serious. we share the sentiment of dr. walensky, the head of our centers for disease control and prevention. the cdc expressed earlier today this is not a time to lessen our efforts. that's what she said. we could still see a setback in the vaccination program. most importantly, if we let our guard down now, we could see a virus getting worse, not better. you know, as many people as we vaccinated, we still have more americans left to go. you know, we will administer more shots in march than any country on earth. but even so, we have to give more shots in april than we did in march. because we're in the life and death race for the virus that is spreading quickly with cases rising again, new variants are spreading and, sadly, some of the reckless behavior we've seen on television over the past few weeks means that more new cases are to come in the weeks ahead. with vaccines there is hope, which is a very good thing, to state the obvious. but people are letting up on precautions, which is a very bad thing. look, to this point, cases have fallen two-thirds since i took office. deaths have also fallen two-thirds. but now cases are going back up. in some states, deaths are as well. >> president biden announcing new eligibility for americans coming sooner than later for vaccines. the derek chauvin trial has also just resumed from their lunch break. the cross-examination of the 911 dispatcher. let's listen. >> describe four areas that you do, correct? >> correct. >> as i understand it, the first area is there are days or shifts where you may be the actual call taker, is that correct? >> correct. >> so as a call taker, someone -- a citizen calls 911, you pick up the phone and respond to whatever that call for service is, is that correct? >> correct. >> and then you'll type it into a system, that information will get sent over to a dispatcher, correct? >> correct. >> and the dispatcher is the person who is in charge of communicating with and assigning officers to calls, correct? >> correct. >> and there are days when you show up for work and you're assigned to be the dispatcher, correct? >> correct. >> you also described a third part of your job is to be the fire dispatcher, which is separate from police. >> correct. >> now, in preparation for trial, i believe on march 2nd, you met with members of the prosecution team, correct? >> correct. >> and you made a statement or apparently made a statement that police is more fluid than fire. what did you mean by that? >> correct. so when fire calls -- let's start over. there are generally not times when the fire department comes upon an issue. it doesn't happen often, but it does happen, where we can assign a rig that's come across someone who comes across someone on the ground. someone will call about smoke, whatever prompted the call, and then we send the rig where they need to go. >> whereas police may be driving around and may see two people fighting on the corner and have to stop and deal with it, correct? >> correct. >> so dispatching to police officers is a different process than dispatching to fire. >> you are correct. >> so we've got the call taker, the dispatcher, the fire dispatcher, and what was the fourth aspect again? >> we call it our channel 7. it's an information channel. we mainly use it for officers coming in for off-duties or when someone reports a lost child, we have different computers that we use to make sure we can log them appropriately in our national database. >> okay. so the channel 7 responsibilities may include -- when you say off-duties, those are police officers who are hired as security at local businesses, things of that nature? >> yes. >> so even though the officer is not on duty as a minneapolis police officer, a business hires them and they still act as a police officer, correct? >> correct. >> now, then there are those other lost children, things of that nature. >> yes. >> you also described that the city of minneapolis is comprised of five precincts, correct? >> you are correct. >> first precinct being downtown, is that correct? >> yes. >> and downtown is broken into two sectors, correct? >> correct. >> then you have the second precinct which is the northeast, right? >> correct. >> the third precinct which is the southeast? >> correct. >> the fourth precinct which is north minneapolis, the west side of the city, correct? >> correct. >> and the fifth precinct, correct? >> correct. >> the fourth precinct you said had four sectors? >> correct. >> so essentially there would be two squad cars downtown in southeast minneapolis, and those are the two cars in the city as far as patrol? >> at some times there can be more, depending on the shifts. >> so if there is an event, they may bring in extra people or something is going on where they would need extra officers? >> correct. >> and oftentimes there are fewer officers than are assigned sectors, correct? >> there's usually always at least one squad per sector. >> but those officers call in sick and they go on training, so the number of officers on the street at any time shifts from time to time? >> correct. >> it's fair to say that as a dispatcher, you're not a police officer, correct? >> correct. >> you have not been through the police academy, through police training, things of that nature? >> correct. >> and you don't know all of the police officers in the city of minneapolis, right? >> no. >> now, in terms of your previous testimony, you indicated that listening is a big part of your job. >> yes. >> you said that the majority of your job is done by listening. can you explain what you mean by that? >> we are in a room with no windows. we work off a phone and radi the majority of our time. the other times, only if we had some kind of video to show us, anything like that, then other than that, we are always on a phone or radio. >> okay. now, you said that there are six televisions, you believe, in the dispatch room? is that right? >> throughout the whole center, there is six on the walls, two large ones on the ends and then there is one in fire. >> so -- >> nine total. >> -- nine total. sorry, i had to do some quick math. i'm just trying to get thisr. okay. those televisions don't have the city of minneapolis cameras up all the time, do they? >> no, they do not. >> those televisions may have other information up, they may be off. they're not constantly on all the time? >> they're always on, but you are correct, they're not always on cameras. we have other information we put on those screens that we can have constantly running as reminders. we also have other screens that we utilize throughout the day, too. >> and then in front of you, you have four or five different computer screens itself. it sounds like it's a very moving job, right? now, you testified that it's very rare that you actually see an incident that you've dispatched on these city cameras. >> correct. >> like, does it happen once a year? like, is this the first time you ever remember it happening? how rare would you say it is? >> i can't be specific, but there might be, in the whole time i've been a dispatcher, maybe three to four calls that i've seen on our tvs. >> okay. and usually -- correct me if i'm wrong, the reason that may be brought up is because there's something that triggers someone to operate that camera and put it up, right? >> correct. >> so you don't control the cameras? >> you are correct. >> you don't have access to the cameras through any of the screens in front of you, is that right? >> correct. >> someone else who may be like a manager or a supervisor has to do that? >> correct. >> but this incident was specifically brought up on the cameras, right? >> yes. >> you also were previously interviewed in connection with this case by special agent brent peterson, is that correct? >> yes. >> and that was back on june 9 of 2020 at approximately 1:00, right? >> yes. >> and that was at the fbi field offices, or where was that? >> it was over the phone. i was not in town. >> so you had a phone interview with agent peterson, and i believe you had your union lawyer or something with you as well, right? >> correct. >> so on may 25th, you were channel 1 dispatch. that covers both the second and third precinct, correct? >> correct. >> and, again, the four sectors of the third precinct, squad 310, squad 320, squad 330 and squad 340, right? and you didn't necessarily know who the officers were assigned to those cars? >> correct. >> have you subsequently learned who the officers were who were assigned to those squad cars? >> yes. >> so who was assigned to squad 320? >> officer lane, and i do not know how to correctly pronounce the other officer's name. >> king? >> king. >> and squad 330 was officer chauvin and officer topp, correct? >> correct. >> squad 310 and 340 were not on scene, correct? >> correct. >> did you identify who squad 830 was for the park boys? >> i did not. >> when this call came in, you were not the call taker this day, you were the dispatcher, correct? >> correct. >> so the call taker comes in, takes the call. you see the information that the call taker puts into the commuter system, correct? >> correct. >> it's fair to say that that information is also being seen in the squad cars of a minneapolis squad car, right? >> correct. >> so when the call taker types in this information, it's visible to the officers in the squad car? >> yes. >> and it allows them to respond as well, you can respond, lots of people can respond to various calls, right? >> correct. >> i am going to go back to, with the court's permission, i believe this was exhibit 151, which was the computer-oriented dispatch? >> yes. >> can you see that in front of you? >> yes. >> let me see if i can get rid of some of this stuff here. all right. okay. so the call initially comes in at 8:02 and 13 seconds, correct? >> correct. >> as you described, the caller reported that outside the reporting party that there was a male who was parked outside a business with a particular license plate and they also said it appears this person is under the influence, right? >> correct. >> so at the time the call came in, you would have seen this person was suspected to be under the influence by the caller, right, as would the officers in their cars? >> correct. >> and so you indicated that you had initially radioed -- did you say you radioed dispatch squad 330 to this call? >> initially, yes. >> and that was because -- do you recall where they were at the time you dispatched them? >> no. >> back on june 9th, when you spoke with officer peterson or agent peterson of vca, would you dispute this if you told them you were at the precinct at the time of the call? >> so you believe they were tied up but they had not cleared something from the computer? >> right, they were still on a call they had been working on. >> let's talk about when an officer finishes a call, is there something the officer is supposed to do to say, hey, i'm done with this call, i'm on to the next one? >> they can either clear it over the radio with us, clear me if there was a multitude of things, or they can clear themselves. i have a status screen that shows me when a car is clear, when the car is en route, when they're on scene and when they're code 4. >> so on one of these screens right in front of you, you have some sort of representation of each of the sector cars that you're responsible for dispatching, so if, for example, you have a call in sector 310 and 310 is already occupied with some other call, you can send 320 or 330 or 340 or even somebody from a different precinct or sector, correct? >> from a different precinct, it requires more conversations with a sergeant to pull response cards. it's a policy of calling people and getting their permission to use their cars. but yes, if someone is busy and i don't have a precinct car to use, then i have to go to the closest available. or if there is no one who is close and i only have one slot available, that's the person who has to go. >> so when you are looking at your computer screen, do you see all of the precinct's cars and their availability, or do you only see the second and the third precinct? >> i only see the second and the third. >> okay. now, so you indicated that ultimately squad 320 kind of took the call back, right? >> correct. >> they said, hey, we're clear, we're going to go handle this call at the cup foods, right? >> correct. >> you said you were familiar with the 38th and chicago intersection? >> correct. >> and does it get a fair number of police calls to that area? >> that i don't have the statistics for. and i wouldn't be able to rattle off a yes or a no. in the last year, yes. before that, i wouldn't be able to tell you. >> okay. now, so, again, squad 30 was -- excuse me, squad 320 was ultimately backed up with squad 830, the park police, and squad 330, officer chauvin's squad car, correct? >> correct. >> and, again, you -- do you recall why you backed these officers up? >> initially i believe i heard a loud something in the background. i couldn't -- i would have to be reminded of what exactly i heard, but it was loud. and so until they were code 4, i started a squad to back them. >> so, correct me if i'm wrong, you can't just hear what an officer is doing at any given time, listen in on their calls, right? >> no. they have to radio us to let us know what's going to. >> so when an officer pushes his button on his radio or however they do it, it opens up the air or the microphone, so to speak. and you're trained to listen, right? >> correct. >> and when you spoke with agent peterson, do you recall saying you heard lots of yelling or things of that nature when squad 320 said they were taking one out? >> i don't remember specifically. i believe i told him that. because that was the reason i asked for assistance. >> squad 320 didn't call in and say, hey, we need help. you heard something that was concerning and they sent help. >> when they said they were taking one out, had they said that first, i would have also done that. >> and squad 830 was the first to respond? >> yes. >> and i believe that they responded, let's see, at 8:10 and 38 seconds, right? >> the one with my numbers that says backed up 320 with 330 and 330 with 830, that's my tools. i don't see the arrival times on here. >> but you see 525 at 20:12.21, 320 c-4, that's code four, meaning all clear, correct? >> yes. >> and 820 at 20:12.55, roughly 40 seconds or 34 seconds later, squad 830 is out with 320, right? >> correct. >> and then you got -- there was an inquiry to get some information, right? >> mm-hmm. >> and ultimately, then, at 8:20 and 11 seconds there was a code two call for a mouth injury. >> correct. >> meaning, code two, come in the matter of due course, don't come in a rush. >> routine. >> and 20:21.35, about a minute and 24 seconds later, squad 330 ems code three. >> correct. >> so someone assigned to squad 320, either officer chauvin or thao. >> correct. >> and code three means get here as quickly as you possibly can, right? >> correct. >> lights and sirens. >> correct. sorry. >> at -- now this particular, this particular document, exhibit 151, not have the arrival times, correct? >> no. >> are you familiar with other documents or other print-outs that would show various arrival times? >> yes. >> and would show other people who are associated with the case? like, who is assigned to which particular squad car? >> yes. >> okay. if i may have just a minute, if we can take this down, your honor? mr. frank, i would be referencing date stamp 7438, for your information. would it refresh your recollection or help you identify arrival times if you looked at an incident detail report? >> yes. >> i would ask if you can show this screen to the witness? this hasn't been offered, your honor. i'm sorry? [ inaudible ] if i may have a minute. >> so we're in the middle of cross-examination right now of the 911 dispatcher. this is the defense's first chance to cross-examine a witness. she is the first witness on trial. she was testifying just a moment ago that she felt uncomfortable by the scene that she saw playing out. and that's why she called the police officer's superiors to warn them of what was going on. let's listen again. >> every single time is documented very closely, correct? >> correct. >> now, would you disagree if i told you that the phone was picked up from the 911 caller at 8:01 and 15 seconds? >> i can't disagree with that. >> okay. and i know that you don't have this right in front of you. but i just have to walk you through this, these times. >> okay. >> would you agree or disagree, would you agree that the first unit was assigned at 8:04 and 28 seconds? >> yes. >> and that that would be squad 330 was en route at 8:04 and 28 seconds? >> correct. >> and then 320 took the call at 8:05 and 11 seconds, so a very short time. >> a very short time. >> would you agree if i said that squad 320 arrived at 8:08 and ten seconds? >> correct. >> squad 330, assigned to chauvin and thao and 320 assigned to peter chang. >> correct. >> now, in terms of -- >> what you're seeing right now is a sidebar conversation between the judge and the defense attorney and the prosecution. the audio cuts out when this happens, and they have these conversations over headset, as you can see. and once the issue is resolved, they go back into the trial. we're watching the cross-examination of the 911 dispatcher, a defense witness. she got the call about george floyd, and watched the incident unfold over a surveillance camera, prosecution witness, excuse me. she watched what happened, and as she saw it unfold and as she saw the officers kneeling on george floyd, she called the officers' superior to warn them about it. she said it made her uncomfortable. let's now jump back into this trial. >> we're going to go back to old school methods and print out some paper. we'll get there. >> to your honor. [ inaudible ] >> -- to speed this process up. >> mr. nelson? >> this's fine, your honor. >> all right. >> so for purposes

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