Going to 40 and older on monday, and 18 and older on april 5th. Theyre trying to get as many people vaccinated as possible but this comes as these states do see these surge of people just flooding in and when it comes to the number of states that are seeing this rise, lets take a look at these numbers here. You mentioned over half the states in our country are seeing this rise and a handful are seeing a massive rise of 25 to 30 or more. That includes, i want to take note of a couple states in particular, connecticut, north dakota, new hampshire, minnesota, and some other ones. Now, thats going to be important later, which ill mention, so keep those in mind. Now, the cdc director says that overall, the National Average of rising cases has hit 7 . She says this is a clear sign that we are starting to get this increase. Does it amount to a fourth wave . Listen to what she said about how close we are to that. I remain deeply concerned about this trajectory. We have seen cases and Hospital Admissions move from historic declines to stagnations to increases. And we know from prior surges that if we dont control things now, there is a real potential for the Epidemic Curve to soar again. Please, take this moment very seriously. Reporter yeah, alex, the frustration is that we dont see the effect of these big crowds but several weeks coming up, the next two to three weeks, if not longer. She also says that its so important for these crowds that we see out here, not much masking going on, a lot of crowds at night, to just hold off a little bit longer if we can stave this off with more vaccines coming in and with florida opening up their Vaccine Program and having so many folks coming in when it comes to the spring breakers, theyre not the only state. We know of several other states that are Loosening Restrictions as their case loads go up, as you mentioned. Two of those states in particular are two that were on the list of the highest numbers rising, north dakota and connecticut. So these things are as i mentioned before, an if not when. Two to three weeks from now, alex, well have to be look at these numbers very closely. Thank you so much, cori coffin. Lets take a look now at the other big headlines of the day as we get a live look at atlanta, georgia. Thats where an antivoter suppression rally is just getting under way after a slew of Voting Restrictions was signed into law in the state. President Biden Last Night speaking out against what he is calling jim crow in the 21st century. Is there anything the white house can do to protect Voting Rights in georgia . Well, were working on that right now. We dont know quite exactly what we can do at this point. The Justice Department is taking a like right now. New reaction from lawmakers on capitol hill who say this legislation has farreaching implications beyond georgia. Of course, theyre targeted towards people of color, specifically africanamericans. That is why we have got to pass hr1. This is a defining moment for the american democracy. If this is happening in the State Capital in georgia, it will not take very long for it to visit a State Capital near you. Also new today, a group of bipartisan lawmakers are heading to el paso, texas, to address the surge of migrants crossing the border. Just a few minutes, ill be speaking with congresswoman norma torres about what needs to be done to stem the growing humanitarian crisis. But first, for the First Time Since her arrest, we are hearing from Georgia State representative park cannon, seen here. Youre seeing here right there being put in handcuffs after knocking on the governors door just as that voting bill was being signed into law. The Georgia Lawmaker spoke exclusively on The Morning Show about why she wanted to be in that room. I wanted to be there because as a legislator, i have a right just as the other legislators who were present did. But more importantly, rashad, he should not be afforded the privilege of privacy when he is in the commission of such a heinous act intended to divest the black citizens of this state of their right to vote. So, as a representative, i have an obligation to Georgia Voters who will will negatively impacted by this legislation to be in the room. Joining me now is Rashad Richie, political analyst and host of the Rashad Richie morning show. Good to see you. Everything she said made utter sense. What were your takeaways from your conversation with park cannon . What instruct you about her retelling about this experience . That she had an expectation to be treated as a lawmaker, to be treated fairly, to be treated with respect as an elected representative. She said on my show that the arrest was unlawful, and i agree with her. Not only based on what we saw in that video but based on the georgia constitution. According to the georgia constitution, youre not allowed to arrest a sitting lawmaker during legislative session except for treason or a felony. So, they have charged her with felony acts, and these charges are very serious, but obviously, everyone who has seen the video, even republicans who called my program the next day, said it was overkill. So, rashad, were watching her. Shes knocking on the door, but she makes the point that the governor should not be signing a law like this into law in private. Is that typically done . Does brian kemp do that all the time, close the door and sign laws . No. There is usually an invite of certain lawmakers that were responsible for passing the bill, but as far as locking people out of the ceremony, that is something very rare. Now, obviously, these individuals who decided not to let her in or let her knock on the door, she wasnt even trying to gain entry, these are nonpolitical individuals, but they work in law enforcement. Heres the reality of it. She was able to be in to building. Thats public space. She was able to knock on a door. Thats all she did. The individuals who arrested her are State Troopers. A lot of people thought they were Capitol Police. I have a theory. I dont think the Capitol Police would have ever arrested her for simply knocking on the door, but these State Troopers decided to take it to a whole other level and now, instead of the governor being able to take a victory lap with his constituents on the republican side, those cops, the culture of law enforcement, has now become a political sore spot for even the legislation that republicans said he should sign. Wow. Talk about overshadowing, right . You make a very good point there. How about her . Hows she feeling after going through all this . It was a tough night for her. She was not able to get a lot of sleep that night. I was thankful that she still woke up very early in the morning and did my morning show. But not only was it tough for her, just the impact of what happened, but the fact that shes now facing extremely serious charges for something that should have been another day of her being an advocate and a state representative, and i want to remind the audience of this. Shes the youngest state representative, the youngest lawmaker we have in georgia, and this is how were treating a young black female who decided to be part of the change, run for office, got elected by a significant amount of constituents in her district, and is well respected in the state of georgia, and this is how shes treated for simply knocking on a door. Yeah. I mean, taking it all in, its quite stunning. Do you think Governor Brian Kemp has the capacity to apologize for this incident . At least for the behavior of the State Troopers. He has the capacity, but he wont do it and heres why he will not do it. This governor literally said that no voter fraud took place in the state of georgia. However, hes signing a bill as if voter fraud took place in the state of georgia. They are literally legislating on lies. Why is he doing this . Why is he taking a different position in this legislation than what he would during the last president ial election . Hes trying to secure his political victory in a republican primary because he has to run for reelection. At this point, he can not politically come against the officers who arrested her, so while he does have the capacity, he will not apologize on behalf of these cops and i do not expect him to soften his tone toward representative park cannon. Is there any message that park cannon wanted to get across . She spoke exclusively with you about this. Is there Something Else that she wanted to relay about this incident that she did through you . She would like people to pay attention. She wants everyone to be on notice that this is the new jim crow. Remember, in a democracy, were in the business of voters picking the politician. Bills like this allow the politician to pick the voters and she wanted to make sure that if youre going to do this, if youre going to sign legislation that is arcane, such as this, and adversarial to the meaning of democracy, do it in public. Do it in the face of others. Do it with pride if youre going to do it, not do it in secret, and that is the message she wanted to convey to the governor and those who were with him that day. Yeah. Rashad, what is your biggest concern about this new legislation . My biggest concern that they have now figured out a new way to win elections. Theyre not looking to just win general elections throughout the United States. Theyre looking to win specific elections and to put individuals in charge of elections. Even though this bill is extreme, for example, early voting is restricted, Absentee Voting is restricted, it makes it a crime to give someone food or water while waiting in lines, and this state is notorious for having long lines in nonwhite precincts, thats not even the grand slam partner republicans on this. Heres what it is. This grand slam for them allows the Republicanled Legislature to take over county elections, including democratic counties, if they dont like the results. They are allowed, under this law, to implement their own superintendent of elections at any time of an election phase. Rashadrichey, a disturbing conversation but i thank you nonetheless. New pictures from the suez canal backup. Why the next few hours will be critical to ending that log jam. E critical to ending that log jam. So you want to make the best burger ever . 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It comes a day after more than two dozen members of congress from both parties surveyed the border, as you can see here, republican lawmakers were in mission, texas, and then the democrats visited a facility in cadiz springs. Congresswoman ilhan omar talked about how she empathized with the children there. For me, it took me back to being a young kid just like themselves. We met, today, 13, 14, 15, 16yearolds. I myself was a child who fled like these kids, unconscionable violence. And joining me now is california congresswoman norma torres, a democratic member of the House Appropriations committee. Welcome back to the broadcast. Its good to see you, maam. And i know that you toured that same facility on wednesday. You were also the only member of Congress Born in central america. You were a child when your family immigrated from guatemala. Tell us about your experience on wednesday. What was that like for you to see those children in those facilities . Its good to see you, alex, and on wednesday, the visit is always heartbreaking for me to be there, because i see myself in many of the faces of those children. I came here, you know, alone with to live with my uncle, my fathers oldest brother. Circumstances in the region were really difficult at the time. It was a civil war in guatemala. So, when i look at these children and when i engage with them to ask about what were the circumstances that they were fleeing . What caused them, you know, to be here in our southern border presenting themselves and asking for asylum . One child said that his father was murdered, his mother, you know, she fled, and he was left alone. He didnt know what to do, so he decided to come north. Another child was trying to reunite with his mother that was here. And another child was trying to reunite with a father that he had here. Although, we look now at how theyre being treated and the access that they have to medical care, you know, healthy food, showers, and Bed Facilities for them and some privacy that they need, all of us need, its the circumstances are much better now than they were under the Trump Administration. However, children in a Detention Center like that is always a cause for concern for someone who is a mother and a grandmother like me and an immigrant that came from the same region. Yeah. I can imagine. Its really gutwrenching, actually, to listen to what you gleaned from talking with those children. Does it strike you that any of them took the prospect of traveling to the u. S. Border on a whim, a spur of the moment. Is it the kind of thing that they said, i have to go . Or to the republicans point, they say that because joe biden is perceived as a nice guy and not going to be as hard on them potentially as President Donald Trump was, everyones saying, oh, good, now its time to go. Did you get any sense of that . Absolutely not. Donald trump was perceived as an evil doer and yet these children were still fleeing the region. I think that it is important, and i hope that at some time, you know, we could revisit. The issue that we have here in our southern border is a symptom of the real cause, the real problem, the real crisis in the northern triangle and had the u. S. Not turned its back on the people, when we had already, under the obama administration, made so many advances in the rule of law and worked with the u. N. And 13 other Country Partners in setting up organizations, commissions that were in charge of helping the Attorneys General there investigate cases of Public Corruption involving high political elites, the president s of those country, the congress. And a Narco Trafficker In Honduras who has received bribes and financed his campaign on the back of narco traffickers like el chapo. You know, that is the crisis there in those countries, and we cannot simply put a bandaid and continue to address and throw money at our southern border without looking back and addressing those issues. Well, i suspect you at least are somewhat gratified to hear our current President Biden who said in that News Conference on thursday that we need to look at the root causes of why this is happening, and i suspect that he and his administration are going to dig deep into trying to do so. That having been said, we saw republicans patrolling the southern border in armed boats, and were going to play that right now. There, folks, you see them getting on board and clearly machine guns are plentiful around them. Whats your reaction to seeing that . As a mother, you know, i hope that people are watching as a parent. This is political theater here, meant to continue to frighten children. Is this the welcoming that we are showing in giving to a 7yearold who is not trying, you know, to just come in like that, who is presenting themselves and saying, im hungry, im thirsty, i havent eaten, i havent slept, i have been abused on the way here, and these members of the u. S. Senate flanked with our military or Security Forces with weapons and an armed boat like that, it is incredible. It is an incredible act that goes to show that they do not care about the humanity of the children, and they do not care about what is happening in the region and how cocaine is being brought into our country and instead of addressing the issues with the narco traffickers and the pandemics that they are creating here with drug addictions, they choose to instead intimate these children. Yeah. I want to ask you about republican senator James Langford because he posted this video. Were going to show it here. Its from a Migrant Processing Center in donna, texas, and in this video, he claims that it is a pod that is designed to hold 80 people, and it is currently holding 709. Does the Biden Administration bear any responsibility here . I mean, are they doing enough quickly enough and if not, what are the logistical challenges that they face . Its a logistical nightmare for the Biden Administration. Having taken over for two months now and coming into, you know, an administration that, number one, did not have a process of getting information, any type of information from the Trump Administration, not only did they find out that there were hiring freezes for the personnel that we needed in order to process these kids, for the attorneys and the judges that are needed in order to process their cases of asylum, but they have to set up all of those processes. Whenever i see those photos, i mean, it is a black eye on the greatest country in the world. But again, we have to make sure that when children present themselves that we do not push them back into the arms of the drug cartels or the gangs in mexico, and that is exactly what the Trump Administration was doing, pushing those kids back and, you know, members of congress visited them, Refugee Camps down at the border in mexico, on the mexican side of the border. California congresswoman norma torres, i really appreciate the passion and the insight you bring to this conversation. Im definitely having you back to talk about it more as we watch how this develops. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you, alex. The president s conversation with historians, one of my next guests will tell us what they talked about and what he wanted to know. What they talked about and what he wanted to know. We look up to our heroes. Idolizing them. Mimicking their every move. And if she counts on the advanced hydration of pedialyte when it matters most. So do we. Hydrate like our heroes. 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Reporter yeah, alex, it absolutely is incredible, and its tough to fathom and keep in mind that the folks who live in this community are suffering from a direct hit here from this tornado late thursday but they had another Tornado Outbreak that happened just longer than a week ago, so this is almost adding insult to injury for so many people here in the south and just a quick peep behind me, you can see that the damage stretches for blocks and blocks through this community, alex, destroying homes, businesses, schools, and leaving so many people now trying to pick up the pieces. Residents in the south are counting their blessings just to have survived. We heard crashing and we huddled in the corner. Reporter scenes of utter devastation as Tornado Survivors work to pick up the pieces. We lost a lot of precious memories out of this. See those two windows . Thats the bedroom. Reporter in georgia, Residents John and lela mcgee narrowly escaped a tree that fell right through their roof, crashing on top of their bed. Its very scary, because you think, i could be dead. And i tell you what i how quickly this all happened and what a close call it was, because as i said, when her feet hit the floor, the tree hit the house. Reporter winds in georgia measuring close to 170 miles an hour, killing one person. In alabama, five people killed. Three of them from just one family. I lost a brotherinlaw. I lost a sister. I lost a niece. It has been really devastating to us, because you know, were a close community. Most all of us are related in a Small Community like this. Reporter the National Weather service says at least two dozen tornados ripped through the region. Some Traveling Hundreds of miles and even across state lines. We finally got close to 300 miles of damage. Reporter residents in kentucky and tennessee also reeling from Severe Weather. Widespread damage and power outages. Back in georgia, the mcgees, thankful to be alive. If i hadnt gotten up, i would have been under the rubble. Im lucky to be alive. Reporter so now, alex, this is the scene that so many people are left facing, not just here in newnan, but across alabama as well today, and while were having decent weather to start this Recovery Process in here, thats not going tb case for millions of others. We know the same system is now working its way up the eastern coast, potentially threatening 23 Million People with even more Severe Weather. I tell you, its nothing but insult to injury. Everyones got to take good care. Thank you so much, morgankey. Another breaking story this hour, pictures to share from space of that massive ship thats blocking the suez canal. Pretty extraordinary that we have these pictures here. Right now, certainly new efforts under way to free the ship, and the next few hours apparently are going to be critical. Nbcs Ralph Sanchez in cairo, egypt, for us. Its amazing looking at those pictures. It really puts it into perspective. But we understand some progress may have been made since we last spoke . Reporter alex, thats right. Egyptian officials held a Press Conference earlier, theyre striking a sort of optimistic note. We are in a period of high tide in the suez canal, which could help this rescue effort. It might float the ever given off the stand where its stuck and make it a little easier for these tugboats, tiny in comparison to that massive container ship, to move it back into the middle of the suez canal. The other bit of good news, the rudder and the engine of the ship appear to be working, so if they can dislodge it, it should, in theory, be able to sail on its own power out of the canal. But those same officials are already talking about a fallback option, and its a pretty desperate one. Bringing cranes alongside the ship and individually unloading some of those 20,000 containers to try to reduce its weight, make it a little easier to get it off the sands. But alex, that is a dangerous and complicated operation at The Best Of Times and there is a risk if its done wrong, you could actually capsize this massive ship. Wow. There is a lot at stake. Really painstaking work. Were watching it for closely. Thank you, raf. Meantime, everyone, new pressure on Congress Today to pass federal protections for Voting Rights. It comes after georgia signed new restrictions into law, changing early voting, criminalizing the distribution of food and water to voters, tightening i. D. Requirements with mailin ballots, taking Away Drop Boxes and giving more control of elections to the legislature instead of the county. The push for federal action is on as 42 more states actively consider new Voting Restrictions. So, joining me right now for this conversation, eddie glaude jr. , author, historian, chair of the department of africanamerican studies at princeton university, and one of our favorite msnbc contributors and analysts. Eddie, welcome. As we look at this, it is an almost nationwide push right now to change voting laws. Is georgia blazing a new trail . No, its not new. Its i think theyre in the front of the pack. As we know that there are over 250 i think its up to 260, according to the brennan institute, pieces of legislation in over 43 state houses across the country that are trying to in some ways disenfranchise significant portions of the american population. Georgias just at the head of the line, alex, but this is not new. Weve been seeing this since the passage of the 15th Amendment, since the ratification of the 15th Amendment, so this is an ongoing process in the country. Yeah, and its also right now, there you see people that are supporting Voting Rights there in atlanta outside of the city hall. That rallys under way right now so well keep a look on that one too. Look, eddie, there are a number of democrats, and that would include the president , who have made comparisons to jim crow. Georgia Governor Brian Kemp said, theres nothing jim crow about requiring a photo or stateissued i. D. To vote by Absentee Ballot but his comments would suggest that democrats are overreaching but is he misreading the mood of the voters and why people are demanding action from congress . Is he not presenting a complete picture when that is the only thing that he focuses on as he pushes back . Sure. You know, i think its important for us to understand who Governor Kemp is. Is to not really try to attribute good faith to whatever he says about this issue. Its very clear what the Georgia Republican partys trying to do here. So, however he responds, we need to take him for who he is and for what hes done. Look at his actions as opposed to his words, and lets be very clear. Since the passage since the ratification of the 15th Amendment, alex, there has been an ongoing attempt to disenfranchise black voters, whether its been black men in the initial stages or black people overall. Theres a reason why weve had repeated efforts to pass a Voting Rights act even though the 15th Amendment guarantees the vote. So, this is just the latest instance, whether its literacy tests, property tests, all sorts of things that have happened over the course of this countrys history. This is just the latest instance in this particular moment, and we need to understand it for what it is. Yeah. Theres Something Else we need to understand and that is the Felony Arrest of the Georgia State legislature legislator, rather, park cannon, for merely going and knocking on the door of georgia Governor Brian Kemp, as he was signing this into law. Here we see the pictures once again. Arrested, felony charges, did nothing more than knock on a door. Is this something that Governor Kemp has the capacity to apologize for . We want to make the point that we believe these are Georgia State troopers here, and it was suggested that had it been Capitol State Police there, they would not have arrested the Georgia Lawmaker. An elected representative. Right, you know, i wonder why were trying to give Governor Kemp the benefit of the doubt. He has proven himself over and over again, what he has committed to when he was secretary of state, what hes done as governor. I dont expect to hear one sound of an apology out of his mouth, alex. Then heres my question. Go ahead. But the fact is that he was widely criticized on a National Level by donald trump, right . During the georgia runoff elections and for trying not impeding those, despite the phone call that the former president made to him to say, hey, please, do that. But in essence, is he trying to right his own personal history by being so strident on this one . I have no idea. To my mind, it seems to me that hes playing to his what he perceives to be his political base, that base measures the value, the worth of a politician by way of their fealty or loyalty to donald trump or to trumpism and its a consistent position, so i dont i dont really want to assume that hes going to act in a decent way or act in good faith. And so i think our i think our attention should be directed to what we need to do as a democracy. All the rest of us in responding to what is clearly an ill liberal effort on the part of the Republican Party across the country to disenfranchise american voters. Let me also add that we believe that arrest of the Georgia Lawmaker was illegal. Thats according to rashad richey, with whom she spoke so were going to see how this plays out. But we know it was a very traumatic time for her. Let me ask you about one heck of an experience because you were in that group of historians who met privately with President Biden earlier this month, and reportedly, he talked about the filibuster. Did you, eddie, get any hint of how he might proceed on that, really, what about doing so to get Voting Rights passed . Well, let me just say this. That meeting was, as a country boy from mississippi, that meeting was amazing in a number of different ways. We had a chance to talk about a broad range of issues, given the scale of the problems the country faced, but it was supposed to be off the record, and i want to respect it for what we all agreed to do at that moment. But lets just put it this way. The president of the United States understands what history is asking of him. Lets see if he answers the call. Thats the question we have to ask ourselves. Lets see. Lets see if he actually answers the call that history has placed before him. Okay, well, i will respect that and i will also add what i said to Michael Eric Dyson who was in that room. I am so jealous of you having been there. That would have been amazing. But let me ask you about former president obama, who also began his presidency with a spirit of bipartisanship. Did you get the sense that President Biden at all believes that republicans will cross the aisle to work with him . Is that something you would be comfortable reflecting on . Is there hope, i guess, in his tone for that . I got the sense that he trusts his experience in the senate, that his own experience of governance, his own experience as a legislator informs how he sees the world. But i think, and this is apart from the conversation, hes running up against the world as it is, not the way the world was. Hes running up against the senate as it currently is, not as the senate that he participated in over this over those four years. So, lets put it this way. Its in his dna, but he has to really confront the world as it is to repeat myself. And i have to say, boy, how the world has changed, politically speaking, over just the last four years. Indeed. So, to that point. Let me ask you about those who have called for an economic boycott who have called on the big corporations. You have Martin Luther king jr. s daughter, bernice, who is in the in favor of that, eddie. She tweeted, it could hurt middle class workers and people grappling with poverty and increase the harm of both racism and classicism. Do you have a sense of what you think voters should be doing on this . Well, i think we need to trust the organizers on the ground in georgia instead of helicoptering in. Theyve been organizing for a long time. I think theyre ready. Theyve already filed lawsuits and the like. I think there needs to be targeted boycotts in some ways or targeted efforts. Whether or not that will include boycotts, we will have to see. We know that the s. E. C. Did in the state of mississippi to bring down that flag, but look, i think its very important for us to understand that there are forces around the world, not just in the United States, who believe that capitalism can proceed without liberalism, who believe that you can pursue profit without any commitment to democracy. And were seeing that view, evidence itself in our own country. We have to understand that there are corporations who are more interested in their bottom line than they are in democracy. And if corporations reveal that thats their position, they need to be held to account. Eddie glaude jr. , always a pleasure, my friend. Thank you so much. 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Researchers found the vaccine produces strong immune responses in 99 of people with just one dose. The Research Also reveals that people who have received the single dose and had the virus before saw a level of antibodies seven times higher. Lets bring in medical contributor dr. Natalie azar. Always good to see you. Hey, this is great news, right, about the Pfizer Vaccine effectiveness . What do you make of this study . Alex, definitely, good news. You know, essentially, the investigators were asking two main questions. One, how strong is the immune response after one dose . And does the strength of that response differ as a function of whether or not you were infected before with covid19 . And in fact, as you pointed out, they did find that the strength of the immune response was really boosted if you had had prior covid19 infection, but what they also found is that after one dose, even if you didnt have prior infection, your level of immunity or your immune response was greater than someone who never or who only had immunity from infection and i didnt mean for that to sound confusing but what weve always known is that the Vaccine Response is always going to be a little bit stronger than natural infection. But heres kind of the kicker because they were releasing this study or announcing this study as sort of a defense of their action or their protocol to delay the time between the first and second dose, right, you know, were doing three to four weeks here for moderna and pfizer. They were doing 12 weeks. So the only issue that i have with this is that these tests were done at 28 days postfirst infection or first vaccination, so theyre kind of Extrapolating To Protection At 12 weeks. We dont really have that real world information, but nonetheless, its very, very interesting, alex. Yeah. Because theres a big difference between 28 days and potentially, you know, 3 months worth, right . So, good point you make there. Heres the thing. Alex, what they say about what they say about that, which i think is really actually interesting is we know that people who have had infection with covid19 are probably protected for 90 days and i think thats where theyre sort of getting that correlate. If you got the vaccine and you have a really good immune response to the vaccine, its very likely that you will be protected for those three months. Okay. Lets take a quick look at minnesota because out of 800,000 fully vaccinated people, only 89 people contracted coronavirus. I mean, how do you think they got it . Could it be that their symptoms maybe arent as severe as they would have otherwise been if they didnt have the vaccine . Well, yeah, and also, alex, if you look at the numbers, that small number actually represents less than a tenth of 1 of all the people who were vaccinated. We know that no vaccine is 100 protective. What we dont actually know and have that much granular detail on is how sick those individuals got. If were talking about mild illness, that is symptomatic illness, well, thats the big unanswered question as to whether or not the vaccine can actually protect against that. So, actually, i found these results to be quite reassuring. If we know that the vaccine that were talking about was either pfizer or moderna, which are about 95 protective, which is fantastic, thats still 5 people out of a hundred who are going to escape or evade that immune protection. Yeah. This was all really positive for the most part. 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My mother had two goals in her life, to raise her two daughters and end Breast Cancer and she would actually take us to the lab with her often. And i watched how these scientists, they have the they have this passion. Its a deep passion to improve human life and condition and to see what is possible. And joining me now is susan whiting, she chairs the board of the National Womens history museum. And with a big welcome to you, you know, as i think about what we just heard there, some Vice President s shy away from the spotlight, but that doesnt seem to be the case with Kamala Harris. As the first female biracial Vice President , how important in your mind is her visibility . Oh, its incredibly important, because what we know is that if you can see someone, you can be like them. You can picture that opportunity ahead of you, and so all the firsts that shes had are things we need to celebrate and talk about and write and make sure that people understand that its that possibility exists for them. So, the more examples we have like that, the better. Which i think will lead me into this next question i asked you because in the interview that we just heard, the Vice President made it a point to name one of those scientists, dr. Corbet, a black scientist there. As a key player behind the covid19 vaccines. Why, in your mind, is it important that the Vice President points out accomplishments like those of dr. Corbett . Well, its very important because now we know her name. Yeah. But and thats an incredible example but there are so many other scientists, for example, but women who have really led in many different ways, whose names we do not know. And when you dont know that all those people have contributed to what makes, you know, our American History and our and what were doing currently happen, you dont understand the possibility and respect, really, the accomplishments, so its incredibly important to call this out. You know, something youve heard the saying the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. She mentioned her mom and her moms efforts to cure Breast Cancer. And looking back really with admiration at her mother. This is a big part of your work, right, susan . I mean, studying the accomplishments of other women, those who helped pave the way. Yes. In our work with the National Womens history museum, thats what we do. We really shine a light on all the examples we can find and ones were still discovering of womens accomplishments, and its meant to inspire women, obviously, and girls, but its also incredibly important for boys and men to understand and participate in this, because it is our history. Its not just womens history. And so, showing these examples and making it possible for people to understand whats happened in our collective history is really critically important, and mothers, we all have one, are our way to connect to that. Yeah. Something i want to focus on, which is that your museum installed the artwork, Vice President Kamala Harris Glass Ceiling breaker. It was at the Lincoln Memorial last month. Tell me about that. Oh, its such an exciting opportunity for us. So, in collaboration with bbh, which is a Creative Agency in new york and with an organization of leading women, we put this amazing piece of art that, by literally shattering glass, creates a portrait, and it is a portrait, clearly in a moment where the Vice President had shattered many Glass Ceilings, and a whole list of firsts, so we put this piece of art at the foot of Lincoln Memorial, and it was there for about five days, and we had reactions from literally all over the world. People wrote about it. I think its inspired a lot of people, and it was both an interesting and tactile way where you could see this big accomplishment. Yeah. 25 years, youre celebrating the museum there. Were approaching the end of womens history month. Anything in the upcoming final remaining days of march that you want to note . Sure. Well, we because we are the womens history museum, you know, every day is womens history day in our work, and we are a Virtual Museum at womenshistory. Org and we have lots of programming this month for womens history month, so you can see everything from the reading of a book for young learners to opportunities to participate in upcoming exhibits about womens history. Its worth checking out. Susan whiting, thank you for your time. I appreciate you. Thank you. And your efforts. And thats going to do it for me on this saturday edition of weekends with alex witt. 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