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Gabe gutierrez is the only journalist allowed inside today and he joins us momentarily. What he captured was an Intake Facility with tables with clothes and shoes lined up, staff and children moving about the site. The staff is near capacity, and this focus on the border comes as President Biden is facing his own version of the immigration challenge. Over 9,000 unaccompanied children detained on the border. On a month to month basis this is up 63 from last month. Today the new president tapping the Vice President to oversee solutions. I think the best thing to do is to put someone who when he or she speaks they dont have to wonder about, is that where the president is . When she speaks rs she speaks for me. If this all feels familiar, it is for many reasons. Number one, some of the International Issues from Central America up to mexico with immigration have been going on for many years. Number two, of course there is recent history. Immigration being a key fault line in the last administration and biden not beating around the bush, saying quite bluntly, that this humanitarian crisis began with donald trump. This new surge were dealing with now started with the last administration, but it is our responsible to deal with it humanely and to stop whats happening. There can be political blame and then there is also facts. As journalists we want to make sure you understand we can gather about this. Immigration is complex. When the Biden Administration says that the Trump Administration is part of the problem, nbc news has reported on all of this, including the fact that biden officials, many of whom have deep government experience were sounding the alarm in december in the transition about what they were getting from the Trump Administration, including the disturbing lack of Shelter Space for these migrant children. And there is records it was brought up in several meetings, multiple times a week. One official saying trumps people were just sitting on their hands. Biden and harris now, though, are in charge. The buck stops with them, even if its accurate to say the problems predate them. Apprehensions of Unaccompanied Minors overall as mentioned are on the rise. So that is part of why this is in the news tonight and remains an issue. When you stack it all up with republicans trying to say this is a new biden problem, theyre still lower currently than the peak in 2019 under the Trump Administration despite policies that trump pledged would change that border flow. Joining us is Gabe Gutierrez inside this facility late today. And jason johnson, politics and Journalism Professor at morgan state university. Gabe what do you see in your Eye Witness Reporting . Hey there, ari. Well, i should tell you first of all the children we saw in there were calm. They were in good spirits. We saw them walking around, milling about, many of them playing soccer. But i should point out some context here. For those that might not be too familiar with the border, there are several different kinds of facilities here at the border. This was an hhs facility, also a nonprofit here. That is different than the Border Protection facility that we have been hearing about over the past couple days. The pictures that we have been seeing there. This is the next step in the process, when the kids are brought here. Now, i can give you some numbers. Right now in this facility in texas, 766 Unaccompanied Minors right now. The highest they have been is 800. They have a total capacity here of 952. Now, why arent they at capacity . They have to set aside some beds for covid positive kids and negative air pressure and isolation, those are some of the beds. I should point out, ari, 108 of the children that are currently here right now have tested positive for covid19. But they test positive when they arrive. It is not like theyre getting covid from other children inside the compound. Now, we came here for about a twohour tour. There were white house officials. There were also congressional there was a congressional delegation here. Five members of congress that came here. We started out going to the intake center. They are given a duffel bag, a hygiene kit, a medical screening as well. We saw this medical area where they have their temperatures taken again, covid tests as well. There is also certain trailers set aside for these children to have learn representation. Right now theyre doing it virtually in most cases where they may speak with nonprofit or pro bono lawyers as well. We also were shown the dormitories. Thats where they sleep four to a room in bunk beds. We saw many of them playing soccer here. It is about 80 degrees here. When it gets hotter, they will limit some of that outdoor activity. Breakfast is at 7 00 a. M. They have six hours of education. We saw one of the classrooms as well. They right now are Virtual Learning because of covid. The kids are wearing masks. Some of them, an interesting thing that i saw, the kids here are 13 to 17 years old. They are males. No girls here in this facility, which is different from when we visited here back in 2019. We came to this faciity in 2019 or were given a tour back then, and this facility was shut down back then just several weeks later by the Trump Administration. We did ask the Biden Administration about access. They have been asking reporters have been asking for access now for several weeks. But they said that they are trying to ramp up their bed space not just here but in other parts throughout the country, and they hope to give more access as this moves forward, ari. Gabe gutierrez reporting on the point all day. I know you have more work to do as the night goes on. Thank you for joining us. I want to bring in the rest of our panel. Take a listen to how republicans have been seizing on this issue as it hits the Biden Administration. This crisis at the border, which was incentivized, President Biden and his minions created an environment causing this surge. This crisis is created by the president ial policies of this new administration. There is no other way to claim it than a biden border crisis. These sites are a direct result of President Bidens reckless open border policies. Erica, youre well versed in these issues, perhaps more than some of these politicians. Walk us through your view of what is actually happening. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. And we actually are the attorneys in those trailers that gabe talked about. We represent kids right now. We have our attorneys are pro bono attorneys see kids every day, providing intake forms, anything we can do to support their cases. We have seen those. This is important thing to note. This is nothing new. And this is why it is so, so frustrating to see the narrative of the crisis, the surge. I mean, all these dehumanizing words, first of all, to describe whats happening at the border when it happens every single year. And us, as attorneys im not an attorney but i provide with many of the ones that provide services to these kids, we literally expect every year to have a higher number of children we have to represent over, you know, before the summer. So there is a period of time when we do this. It is really frustrating that right now the reason why its being called a crisis and all this is because its being used as a weapon, right, to try to win i dont know what, elections or whatever theyre trying to do. Yeah. And, jason, immigration is complicated for sure, especially legally because you have these different categories of individuals, minors, families, which country of origin, whether they may or may not qualify for refugee status. But big picture i want to put up on the screen the majority of voters in america having heard about this for years and heard both sides. But 69 of people supported citizenship for the people that are already here, thats already one part of the category. But the time of other polarization and this does relate to race and other associations perhaps for some people, it does suggest that the bidenharris approach has more backing, at least from the public. Well, ari, thats been the case for a long time. It is not just were a country of immigrants except for black people who were dragged here against our will, but its hamilton. Its immigrants. They get the job done. Most people actually are fairly open to the idea of men and women who want to come to this country and work. I dont think it should be missed that when ins raids places, theyre not raiding parks. Theyre raiding places where people are working because people who come to this country tend to want to work. But we have a rhetorical battle where republicans are trying to blame joe biden for something that has been going on for decades. I want to point this out because i think this is critical because its used for blame when it shows an out of context clips from joe biden. Look, if im trying to escape guatemala, if im trying to get out of brazil, if im concerned about drug wars happening in Southern Parts of mexico, would i try to escape to the United States under a Trump Administration or a Biden Administration . I would probably try more during the Biden Administration because i think i would get a hearing. Thats not the same thing as joe biden having open borders. Thats joe biden caring about a humanitarian crisis. I think most people in america, they assume people that are coming here are coming here to work and if you dont think that, thats probably because youre racist to begin with. Well, strong words, but i hear you. To signify hundreds of years of immigration law, you could say the main mechanisms is because they help us and they need help. The vast majority of Legal Immigration is because they help us. There has been ebb and flow, but there is the idea that we need these workers, we need these inventors, we need these tech companies. So there is a deal there. But it does help america. The help to them is if somebody really is fleeing torture or fleeing attacks in their own country, we also have laws that provide for them and for chin to sometimes get that status. It helps out helping them. Im simplifying those two rationals to show you some of what the Biden White House has been talking about. Jen psaki talking about children who may need help and the balance theyre trying to strike. Take a listen. These Border Patrol facilities are not places made for children. We dont necessarily want children to be staying for an extended period of time. Our alternative is to send children back on this Trechous Journey that is not in our view the right choice to make. How do you think theyre doing living up to that standard because even as gabe told us what he did see, lets be clear, we havent had access into some of the other first border facilities. Yeah. I mean, first of all, were talking about asylum, right . Asylum is legal, and this is something people have to understand. Coming into this country and saying i am afraid to my life, to go back to whatever country im coming from. That is a legal people to do and people have been trying to do that for many, many years. Right now the Biden Administration is turning away adults and families because of something called title 42, and its allowing children to be able to stay, right . Now, we are pushing for people who are adults and families to be able to ask for asylum as well because they should have that right to do so. I do want to point out that what is important for us to understand and the reason that this happens every single year, some years it is higher than others is that we have neglected to be ready to receive people and welcome people seeking asylum. And ive been using this phrase a lotto day and yesterday, is that we have chosen to send rambo to the border instead of sending mother teresa. We are sending more and more money for Border Patrol, for militarization, i could go on and on instead of figuring out the infrastructure that could welcome people so we dont have to open these Reception Centers or Detention Centers for children that pop up, you know, every now and then, and we can actually have the ability to receive them, to welcome them, to process their asylum cases and release them to their families as soon as possible, which is very crucial. I know the Biden Administration is trying to face this challenge with children, and im told that they are, you know, really planning to close down these places as soon as they are able to reunite as many kids as possible. But in the future, we have to create a system to welcome people and not to pour into the border more and more militarization because it hasnt worked. Thats why we have more and more people coming to the border every year and it hasnt stopped. Thats just the way it is. I want to thank you. We have our shortest break, just 30 seconds. Coming up, new Video Evidence of the officer sprayed by chemicals by those maga rioters. Were back in 30 seconds. Were back in 30 seconds might seem. Excessive. Unless. Getting lost is the whole point. Were tracking new evidence today on the capitol insurrection. The New York Times is releasing Video Showing Officer Sicknick attacked with spray. In the video you can see where Officer Sicknick was standing, right behind a key Fence Position there. Not far from him on the other side, you can see one of the two men now indicted for this vicious attack. The video shows the man raising his hand, spraying what on video would be an unknown substance. Thats the spray can there at Officer Sicknick. He appears to be hit and then turns away. I want to bring in Nyu Law Professor melissa murray. Thanks for being here. I have called these informally a set of Accountability Hearings that congress has had on a parallel track journalists and others continue to shift through an incredible amount of information. What do you think is important as a fuller picture emerges because there is a tendency in daily life to say do you remember how it looked that day or a couple days after . And then you move on. This is one complex attack that has certainly looked more grave as more has come out. Well, were certainly putting together more of the details about that day. You will remember at least in the initial aftermath of the insurrection there was some discussion about Officer Sicknick being killed because of Blunt Force Trauma to the head. That seems not to be the case. There is some concern that maybe he suffered a stroke while in the hospital. Maybe that stroke was precipitated by a chemical irritant. These videos go to show or go at least to establish a more causal link between whatever his cause of death was and what happened here at the capitol on january 6th. I mention the hearings because it is an important part of the public record, well beyond simply the impeachment. This was the house discussing domestic terror today. The intelligence communities foremost concern is racially or ethically motivated violent extremists, as well as, quote, militia violent extremists. Were getting so many threats, we ended up partnering with a college. They have a program where actually having to work with undergraduate students right now to help us track threats. Professor, no shade to universities. Your law students or undergrad. But thats the top Law Enforcement official in michigan where they had a bona fide and indicted attempt to kidnap the governor and others talking to the federal government about the sheer mass of this threat and how theyre reaching out for any help to track it to play i guess some kind of catch up. Walk us through your views of that because many pointed out that multiple fbi directors have discussed this. There seems to be a legacy of a double standard of a lack of seriousness when the socalled threat is posed by domestic White Supremacists and other militia groups. Well, its certainly clear that the threat of domestic extremism hasnt been taken as seriously as it should have been, certainly over the last four years but even earlier. The Obama Administration had opportunities to address the question of domestic extremism as part of this Broader Campaign of terror, the war on terror, so to speak. And instead they decided to regard it primarily as a Law Enforcement problem. We are dealing with that today. So it was very ncouraging to see them take that seriously and see them confront this specifically as a National Security issue and to move forward with that as a top priority. And my last question for you tonight is how much of these things overlap with the epidemic of gun violence, the ease with which people can get guns . You cant from a Law Enforcement perspective, lump everything together. There has to be leads pursued in every case. Yet, it seems quite obvious that we live in a highly Armed Society and in many ways it makes the job of Law Enforcement harder and makes the rest of us less safe. Well, again, these are all interrelated certainly at some level. I mean, the harder question is in the United States we have this very thick understanding of rights, of constitutional protections for certain rights and they always seem to butt up against each other. You remember after 9 11 there was questions about National Security but constant refrains about the need to protect civil liberties. We are always trying to strike this delicate balance between individual safety and individual rights. Thats often difficult to do and we skirt the line very closely, but thats what we do in a Constitutional Republic like ours. Yeah, and a fair point. Law professor melissa murray, thank you as always. Coming up, joe biden is winning over rank and file republicans in big ways that can affect your life. And that means potentially politically bad news for mitch mcconnell. I will explain. Its our Special Report, and its next. Its next. engines roaring whoohoo cal, you came in hot shake n bake . 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Ill be eating loaded tots for march madness. doorbell thanks boo. Piano Glissando i think you better double them tots. No, this me was last year. I didnt get my madness last year, so were doing double the madness this year. Its moving day. And while her friends are doing the heavy lifting, jess is busy moving her xfinity internet and tv services. It only takes about a minute. Wait, a minute . But what have you been doing for the last two hours . Delegating . Oh, good one. Move your Xfinity Services without breaking a sweat. Xfinity makes moving easy. Go online to transfer your services in about a minute. Get started today. After a major liberal victory, President Biden is pushing for a major plan, a 3 trillion Spending Plan for u. S. Bridges, buildings, jobs and a whole lot more. Despite many republicans recent talk about backing some infrastructure, now many in the Republican Party are opposing this before biden debuts the proposal, which has democrats talking about the recent covid bill. Evade gop obstruction, pass this on a party line vote, and that could work. Democrats showed they can do that in the last fight as long as they keep the caucus together. But now senator man chin from the red state of West Virginia is saying he wont be the vote for this if washington doesnt make it bipartisan. If my fellow democrats have bought on that you have no republican friends that will work in a reasonable manner, i dont subscribe to that. I will not vote to proceed until we try. So his literal position is that making this bipartisan is a prerequisite for him supporting it. And that brings us to our Special Report tonight. And this is way broader than any single senate. This is about an antiquated, distorted and sometimes frankly ridiculous approach to governing in d. C. , where politicians branding or vanity is put above the jobs, the health, the Public Interest of hundreds of millions of people. And its all for a narrow appeal to decease definition of bipartisanship baked into political jargon as if its automatically always a good thing. Do it in a bipartisan way. A bipartisan effort and results. Work together this year on some bipartisan priorities. Bipartisan tax bill. On a bipartisan basis. They grew in a bipartisan way. Thats what this bipartisan proposal is all about. The basic concept is the lobbyists. A plan is bipartisan when it has support from both parties. Okay. And the d. C. Political class has come to elevate that goal as superior. The reasoning being that a bipartisan bill is probably more representative of the whole nation because its bipartisan. Both parties are behind it or even that the contents may be more balanced because it has the endorsement of people across a wider set of views. It was seen as important when democrats went out and supported the reagan tax cuts or when republicans came in and supported clinton on the nafta trade deal. The northern American Free trade deal. Were doing whats right for america without regard to the fact that its a democratic president. With his prestige and his presidency on the line. President clinton pulled it off. In a bipartisan plan can be welcome promiezed. Kennedy teamed up with george w. Bush for an Education Bill that was supposed to mix ideas from both sides. The big victory on capitol hill has members of both parties in the Senate Voting to approve a major Education Bill. More money for schools, more testing for students. The president thanks to an unlikely ally, ted kennedy. Now, that was the only model of bipartisanship. As you can see, it may have worked to some degree. It was measured by how many politicians from both parties backed something. Now that model is dead. A popular president came in offering after a big victory of 60 during his first six months. Im talking about President Obama. He was still organizing entire gop around literally stopping and being against anything the democrats did. Our top political priority should be to deny President Obama a second term. He said what he said, and he meant what he said. Mitch mcconnell held to that even as the nation battled a huge and painful recession. And those politics of that obamabiden era, they look a lot like this bidenharris era. All opposed the 09 Stimulus Package despite a recession and reaching across the aisle. There was documented outreach to republicans. When the bill passed, what did republicans do . They went ahead and attacked obama for their own refusal to collaborate. They blamed him for the fact that according to the d. C. Definition they had shut down any bipartisan bill. He missed a chance to have a bipartisan Stimulus Package. Not one republican was allowed to take part in the process. I have been involved in a lot of Bipartisan Legislation around here, mr. President , but i guarantee you this is not bipartisan. Theyre bringing a partisan Democrat Bill to the floor. Republicans are poised to oppose it. This is not just history. Its repeating itself as all Congressional Republicans oppose the biden relief spending. Two president s facing reflxive republican opposition, even in recessions as d. C. Elites repeat the one sided cliches about getting everything to be bipartisan. Now, this is important tonight, and this could actually have a big impact on the future of the biden era, whether there is new spending, whether you get new checks, what we do after covid because most of this stems from using the wrong premise. D. C. Is applying a model of politician bipartisanship. So they measure this only by the politicians. And like i said and like i just showed you, in the old days maybe there was something to that. But mcconnellism has made that completely moot, dead on arrival. Republican politicians dont back modern democrats. There is real bipartisanship out there in the country, but its not bipartisan. It involve you or your friends. It is people bipartisanship. The model makes more sense. It is when you can see a leader or idea because millions of americans go beyond their bipartisan labels to support it. So you measure it in people, not polls. So by this measure, obama stimulus was bipartisan. It drew a third of Republican Voters behind it. And bidens covid plan has 59 , most republicans behind it. Just think about that. If most republican humans in America Support A Biden Spending Bill and none of their elected represents do, that reveals a deficiency for those republican representatives, not for joe biden. And this is so obvious and yet d. C. Elites ignore it. Watching some of the coverage can make you feel a little bit like will farrells mogatu, i feel like im taking crazy pills. Now, if most Republican Voters back covid relief in these backed checks and none of their socalled representatives represent their views on that, what gives . Are you thinking, gosh, ari, are you telling me mcconnell is that power . Every single republican has to go along with this in the congress . Not really. People think of democracy as a thing where politicians represent their constituents and they will lose elections eventually if they are too out of step with all the constituents in their district or state. But thats not how this Congress Works anymore. Because of politicians who use tricks to make it far less representative, they draw these super partisan districts, which the Founding Fathers hadnt thought would ever happen and those make it much harder for these incumbents to face a full wide group of voters. You may have heard it by its name gerrymandering. John oliver explains. Republicans elevated this technique to an art form. Lawmakers should not be allowed to dlut our votes by drawing their own lines and picking their own voters. That is what america is all about, that everyone, every one of us should get an equal chance to make a bad decision and [ bleep ] things up for everybody else. Now, the whole process can get complex, but all you really need to know is that republicans pushed it hard. Both parties have benefitted from gerrymandering to the point that over 50 house races could swing in one year from those tricks by incumbents, not what voters wanted. Districts drawn to be safe in the general election. But something funny happened along the way. It is actually hard to completely eliminate any Voter Pressure entirely. So these politicians with their maps and their gerrymandering, they ended up dealing themselves a more extreme, more narrow type of pressure. So theyre safe in the general election but worried more about getting primaried by the most extreme voices in their party, which have brought down even very powerful republicans in primaries. And the data shows how all this combines to make representatives less representative of most voters, thats you, in their actual districts. So this is actually a huge problem for democracy. It also reinforces, if you take nothing else from me tonight, it reinforces how dumb it is to measure Actual National bipartisanship by only counting d. C. Politicians who are only looking at certain subsets of primary activists and not you, not all citizens of the u. S. Indeed lately some of the most bipartisan and popular ideas in america have been totally boycotted by Congress Mall republicans. So it makes no sense to wait on them to decide if something is popular or bipartisan. But there is a solution here in our minds. If you apply the measure of people bipartisanship, well, the obama and biden Stimulus Bills were bipartisan. Most Republican Voters back these universal checks, for example. Ditto for some of the Infrastructure Plans with half of voters saying it should be a priority. So if key senate votes like Senator Manchin want to make sure something has people bipartisanship, he wants to make sure some of his own conservative constituents are onboard with big Spending Bills, thats reasonable enough. If hes just waiting on some of the partisan politicians in america who dont even represent their districts views, to tell him when to vote for something, well that makes no sense. That is the surest way to play yourself. You take it altogether and you can see that applying old definitions to a reality where they no longer apply not only makes no sense, it can strangle democracy itself where the people need Government Action just like they needed those stimulus checks. There is no overnight fixes to the big holes in our democracy like gerrymandering. I cant solve that intellectually tonight. There is no fix in how primaries can grown more powerful. Remember, elections are an actual deal thing. Primaries are just something that people privately created. Theyre not even all controlled by state law. But i can tell you this. Some of the costs of all of this can actually be reduced if we just come together and use an accurate lens for how things really work today and not these antiquated political measurements. A problem well stated is a problem half solved. And the problem is letting partisan politicians seize leverage through hypocritical partisan gains while lecturing more popular leaders about bipartisanship. Please. The solution, as so often is the case in my working democracy, is cutting out some of those politicians and bringing this back to the people. Thats our Special Report. Still to come tonight, other Republican Issues exposed. 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If you see wires down, treat them all as if theyre hot and energized. Stay away from any downed wire, call 911, and call pg e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. Americas Vaccination Progress has people eyeing a wider reopening by early summer, raising questions about how we should all approach a chance for renewal. And we turn now to Tony Schwartz. Many know him as a veteran of the New York Times. Were thinking of him given his work as founder of the Energy Project that advises companies on how to channel leadership, emotion to channel results. Like many humans, you are capable of much more than one thing, even if people thought of you for one thing over the last few years. Sir, good to have you back. Thank you. And thank you for disassociating me from my previous role on this show. Yeah. Good. Well, longtime beat viewers will remember, if you write a book with donald trump that creates his brand and donate the money to charity, people are going to remember. Youre here tonight because people are going through this. We often focus on the policy and the rules and funding. But what about the feeling as people try to get ready for this renewal and hopefully doing it the right way . Whats your thoughts . Well, you know, in our work with leaders at the Energy Project, we have been focussing on what we call the reckoning. And in simple terms, were asking leaders to systematically take the measure of their lives. This is more possible because covid gave them more time to think, to reflect, and they were alone more. Were getting them to address some really challenging questions beginning with these five, ari. Is the life youre living worth the price youre paying to live it . What do you really want . In what ways are you squandering your energy . Are you investing enough time in your life in the activities you most deeply enjoy . And what would it look like to live a life truer to your deepest value and highest purpose . Because to be a better leader, you have to first become a bigger human being. But this renewal that youre talking about, to me, is an opportunity for all of us to become bigger human beings. So lets take some of those questions, which are deep. What do you say to people who know themselves a little bit and are already concerned that as things snap back and get fast again, they may get speedily distracted away from any breakthroughs they may have had or as you put it back to having their energy zapped. Yeah. Thats the heart of renewal, isnt it, that if you keep are you renewal in your life, if you havent had renewal in your life because you have been so overwhelmed by the covid crisis, then building renewal back in your life is really important. What does renewal mean . The athletes understand that the energy they expend that importance of renewing their energy is as important as the energy they expend. So, you know, we have weve we focus on this idea that renewal is about replenishing your energy, physically, mentally, emotionally, even spirit actually. It is about putting yourself in a position to fire on all cylinders. And that takes the counter intuitive idea of balancing more, bigger, faster, with less, smaller, slower. Was it not drake who said, i got energy, got a lot of energy, got a lot of people trying to drain me of my energy . Absolutely. And there is a lot of Energy Drains out there. And, you know, after two decades of work, what we found is there is one this is going to be this is going to light you up, ari. There is one form of renewal that surpasses all others. I mean, you can renew through rest. You can reflect. You can take a walk in nature. You could have a talk with a good friend. You can value all of those components of your life. But its going to sound squishy and soft to say this to you, but i increasingly believe that this is the heart of it and its real and its powerful. Its a force of nature. The best way to renew is with love. Love for others, especially those you find hardest to love, love for ourselves, meaning all of ourselves, in spite of our myriad imperfections and love for what you are doing, whether you are at work or off work. We have been through a year of so much fear and frustration and division and hatred. So how about this experiment, ari . What if in the days ahead we just brought a little more love into our lives and into the lives of others . I like it, tony. In all seriousness, you know, i love music. The single topic that is most covered in most songs in most languages in the world is love songs. Because love, as you remind us, as we think about it and here in the news we touch on so many things of that nature, but we dont always get right into it, which is that. As so much pain as the president and others have talked about because so many lives lost is so much love drained and you can only remember those people. But what you are talking about, renewal, is pushing it forward. Look, i got to fit in a break. Is this one of the deeper segments of the day . I would say yeah. Tony, i would say yes. Yeah. Thats what im here to do with you, ari. Thank you for letting me. Tony schwartz back on the beat. Good to see you, sir. Up ahead, we have been covering different aspects of this gun story. Now a colorado congressperson hiding her guns. Why . Well explain next. Become the b youre the best by joe esposito [triumphantly yells] [ding] dont get mad. Get e trade. 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