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of massachusetts and utah and they did a study looking at half a million kids in massachusetts comparing students three and six feet apart. there are a lot of caveats. in areas of high transmission, they want to keep the high school and junior high school at six feet apart. let's say where there is a choir or singing, you want to increase that. the most important part to mention about these guidelines -- it depends on a lot of things. first of all, the amount of ventilation in a classroom. if you have a poorly ventilated classroom, even six feet may not be enough, certainly not if you are not wearing masks. also, in terms of getting teachers vaccinated, there is also the issue around level of community transmission as well. we have to be careful not to stick everything at the boiler plate of three feet or six feet. >> we will be talking to you later, but we wanted to start out with the breaking news and we will update that through the hour. president biden and vice president harris are going to atlanta. the chief purpose is to consult and console people after the shooting of eight, six of asian descent. there is new video showing the suspect walking inside one of the businesses. gets out of his car and walks in without any kind of drama or urgency to do what he was about to do. investigators are not ruling out a potential hate crime. we begin to get images and names of the victims. one major hurdle was finding family members. many of the korean victims have their families back in their home country. >> we are working with the republic of korea to make that verification. as soon as we are 100% sure and notifications have been made, we will release those names. >> outside of atlanta, the cherokee county sheriff, apologizes for saying the sheriff had a "bad day." he said -- joining me now is blayne alexander in atlanta, kristen welker and kim and tina ortiz jones, an iraq war veteran and two-time candidate for congress in texas. welcome all. while you wait speaker pelosi is leading the house of representatives in a moment of silence for the eight victims in atlanta. for the whole community. let's take a look as they stand in silence and let's us pause as well. >> in this solemn moment led by the speaker of the house to honor and commemorate the victims in atlanta, the medical county examiner's office has released the names of the victims. >> these were the four names we had not known for so long. officials were having a hard time getting in touch with their family members, notifying the next of kin. it appears that has been done so we know the names of all eight victims. their names are -- they range in age from 51 to 74 and were killed between the two spas in the city of atlanta. the one behind me and the one a few feet away, the parking lot i am standing in. with that we know a fuller picture of how many lives were shattered. as we are continuing to learn those names, we are also learning more about their lives, their stories, about their families that will never be the same. i have spoken with a few family members throughout the week, one of those is a newly. wed. >> she had a baby not long ago. i also spoke to her family. >> she didn't deserve what happened to her. >> what do you want her children to remember about their mom? >> how happy she was. that's what will keep them going, thinking about their mom and the memories she went behind. >> she shared so many memories with me. it was disturbing to hear about what they were doing that day. she and her husband who were just married. they had gone to the spa for a quick get away, had gone for a pair of massages. she and her husband were in separate rooms. her husband heard what was happening, heard the gunshots and he escaped. she did not. that's just one more part as we learn about the victims this week. >> it is just so sad. the president and vice president both heading to georgia, kristen. they will talk to legislators as well, but it's really to talk to the asian american community. what message do you think they are bringing. >> i think they will bring a message that the white house stands with the victims and con democrats violence, particularly violence that is directed at a particular group. we do not know the official motive of this. the administration has been quite clear that they will not back away from the fact that six of these women were asian american. they will talk about that and condemn it and they have done that in previous remarks in the day after this tragedy first occurred. i think it is worth taking a step back and remembering what this trip was supposed to be. this was supposed to be the president and vice president going out and it outing the fact they had passed the covid relief bill. then in the wake of the horrific events in atlanta, the focus of the trip was retooled. that's why they will be stopping at the centers for disease control. then they will meet with asian leaders in the community to convey that message and make it clear that they stand not just with the victims, but the community that is clearly in mourning. the test and challenge will be for this administration, what, if anything, will they do about it. there has been an uptick against asian americans in the outbreak of the covid pandemic. the president has vowed to address that. the question is whether he will be effective in doing that. we will continue to track that. >> and supporting legislation which has been proposed on the hill. >> gina, you are planning something in texas. chip roy appearing to make pro lynching comments which he is standing by today. and congresswoman is responding. >> there is a saying about get all of the criminals and find a tall oak tree. this seems to want to police rhetoric. >> your president and party and colleagues can talk about issues with any other country that you want. but you don't have to do it by putting a bull's-eye on the back of asian americans across this country, on our grandparents, on our kids. this hearing was to address the hurt and pain of our community and we will not let you take our voice away from us. >> gina, the politics of this must be difficult. here is a congressman from your home state talking about finding a tall oak tree and rope. >> it is disgusting. this is the first such hearing in 30 years. as a proud first generation filipino american. the fact that chip roy would use that statement about prolynching and detracting from the true purpose of that, which is to give voice to all what is happening throughout the country. the real palpable feel in our community. that is why i plan this vigil in san antonio. we are the seventh largest city in the country. the aapi is the fastest growing in the country. i am encouraged by the number of community leaders, officials from across the aapi community who are going to come and show solidarity with our community tomorrow. >> i want to talk about the d objectcation. >> we deal with a specific type of sexual racism. the way asian american are seen in this country as hypersexualized and fetishized. i notice when the suspect said he was aiming to eliminate temptation. it is an archaic belief that asian women are dragon ladies and that put own news on the victims rather than the suspect. we are seeing a lot of the effects now during the pandemic, a report came out saying throughout roughly 12 months of the pandemic, there were 38 incidents targeting asian americans, and 58% were women. even out of the pandemic, it's 51% to 25% of asian women who deal with violence from an intimate partner. a lot of these issues prevail to this day. going forward experts noted that the culture that has confirmed a lot of these ideas kind of needs to be disentangled from this. there has to be efforts in order to speak out against a lot of these ideas. when the story first came out, a lot of jokes were being made about this, quote, happy ending. things like that have dangerous implications. we really have to change the 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make the speech because of -- isn't this the intention of the united states from the way you make your opening remarks, that it wants to speak to china from a condescending way from a position of strength. >> president biden backing the secretary of state. >> i am very proud of the secretary of state. i am joined by our white house correspondent and ben rhodes. we were watching this live last night for 1:15, the back and forth. first, what usually happens, in private perhaps, was played out in public. how unusual was this in your long experience? >> and yours, too. we have all been in the room where he would usually sit and wait for bland, boring statements from the officials as they lay out their set piece opening remarks. this was as opposite as you could get. for one thing there were reporters in the room for much of it. it shows how important each side felt that the symbolism was here, to get out front and be as aggressive and as nationalistic in many respects, as each side could be. and to do that publicly. the chinese are not given to doing a lot of these things before cameras. they are given to be bland and boring in public and don't like being forced to stand up in front of american reporters. they came prepared this time and wanted to have this confrontation publicly. >> and, ben, you have been at those tables behind the closed doors when the cameras are kicked out, sitting next to president obama around the world. what does this mean for the larger picture. it is clear that the biden team wants to stake out their own policy and be tough. they didn't with draw any trump tariffs on china. but they said china's policies have been outrageous. they talked about human rights. >> i think they knew something like this was coming. i have never seen anything like this even behind closed doors with the chinese which is normally -- >> i think both china and russia wanted to test early on whether they could brush back the biden team which china and russia don't like lectures about. they don't like spotlights on their internal affairs. i think this was a test. i think yesterday antony blinken being called back in after that long speech of the chinese meeting, i think they passed the test. we are not just speaking for ourselves, we are speaking with our allies we have been consulting with. they had just been in korea and japan. it sets things up. but it's important to set red lines and then cooperate about your differences. >> turning to russia, this confrontation, the clash with vladimir putin, it seems to me that the president certainly wanted to show a different status than what we saw under donald trump. that was clear. they had a conversation back in january. he warned putin that we were going to sanction. now this election interference report has come out. the personal relationship with putin, is that something that can ever be rebuilt? can they work together on other things, climate, iran, whatever? >> i think they can. this was a bit manufactured on the russian side. we are we are calling the russian ambassador for the first time since the 1990s. he wanted to have a theatrics show to say i am not going to be pushed around. at the end of the day putin is very businesslike. i think he is trying to prevent biden from speaking out more about what is going on inside of russia, nuclear weapons, middle east. you can find ways our interests overlap at times. biden has shown he is not going to shy away from criticism. i think that's the right things to do and for alexi novaley who was poisoned. >> i don't think we will get a joint news conference today. >> they got firepower out of the way. they may have gotten more business done today and may be starting back to regular order. >> i am joined by the you united kingdom's ambassador. the u.s. is about to sanction russia for the election interference. do you see it being all downhill from here? where do they go next? >> i don't think it has to be downhill, andrea, but it's true over the past few years -- i think this started before the trump administration, both russia and china have seen the current situation as an opportunity, as a competition to reset the rules of international affairs and they like pretending it is the end of the worst. i think what they are seeing with the biden administration is that narrative isn't going to stand up anymore. >> you are a veteran diplomat, you have been all over the world, have you ever seen anything like the public dustup between the united states and china that took place in alaska last night? >> i think it was unusual, but for modern diplomacy, it may be no worse. i once worked on arms control between the soviet union and nato. and i have seen worst in the security council. but it is what you say behind closed doors that is the substance of the agenda. >> when we talk about china and where china stands right now, i know in the new global britain documents, uk is not pivoting but with your relationship with asia, what can be done with president xi who has become more aggressive towards his neighbors. >> you are right to say the british government wants to have a new focus on the we are not leaving europe or indo-china. that was shown in the clip with secretary blinken. but in terms of overall relations with china, we would like to have as cooperative a relationship with china as possible. but one cannot deny that china is a competitor, they do things on cyber, on human rights, on trying to restrict free trade navigation, a host of areas that are difficult for us and the united states and allies. not just europe, but asia. at the same time both u.s. and we know if we want to attack the global scale problems like health and climate, we want china on board. that is an opportunity for cooperation with china. commercial and economic relations, there is scope there, but those have to be built on a level playing field and have to be built on chinese companies not being built, as huawei is, and if we can get to that. >> as security council ambassador, is there a chance of getting ir iran back into nuclear talks and into compliance. >> it is good that they say say they want to go back into the deal. i am glad we are putting the focus on diplomacy. we need iran to respond to those. the european union is ready to convene the commission. we need iran to say they will come to a meeting. i do think it will be possible to get to that point, but i fear that it may take a bit of time. iran is reluctant to come back into compliance, even incrementally. i think first there needs to be a meeting of the joint commission and iran should join. >> you arrived are year ago in march and as the pandemic was imposed on us. what is it like to be a diplomat arriving in a locked down community? >> it's very strange to be honest. diplomacy is a contact sport so it's odd not to go out and have contact with people. however, i understand why the government has issued those instructions. i do a lot on the telephone trying toint dues -- to introduce myself to people on the telephone. and we do quite a bit of e-mail. sometimes it's easier to get an e-mail through because everyone is busy. but i will be pleased when we can get back to face-to-face meetings. >> you have been effective. thank you for taking time with us. karen pierce, the uk ambassador. a the u.s. get enough people vaccinated to get back to normal as social distancing and masking continue to divide the country. g continue to divide the country lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the lactose. so you can enjoy it even if you're sensitive. yet some say it isn't real milk. i guess those cows must actually be big dogs. sit! i said sit! turning 65? at aetna, we take a total, connected approach to your health and wellness to help you age actively. with medicare advantage plans designed for the whole you, we offer monthly plan premiums starting at $0. hospital, medical and prescription drug coverage, in one simple plan. plus 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and johnson & johnson. by the first of may we will have enough doses for every american in the united states. through federal channels including pharmacies, more than 2 1/2 times being distributed than when we took office. we have deployed more than 6,000 federal personnel to support vaccinations including over 2,000 active military duty men and women. that number will grow to 6,000 men and women active duty over the come weeks. we have provided federal support for more than 600 community vaccination sites. we have administered more than 1 million shots at federally run vaccination sites across the country. more than 60% of those vaccinations have been administered to minority populations. that includes two sites here in new york city. one in brooklyn and one in queens. the american rescue plan will allow us to continue to increase the american vaccination center. we have launched the federal pharmacy program which has allowed millions of americans to get a shot in their local pharmacy, the same way they get their flu shot. last week the president committed to doubling of number of pharmacies in the program. already people can get vaccinated at 14,000 pharmacies around the nature. for those not near a pharmacy, we have 400 mobile clinics. and today i am at a health center. 60% of people are people of color and 2/3 are below the poverty line. vaccines are being sent directly to 250 of these community health centers. we will deliver vaccines to an additional 750 community health centers. this is the vaccination progress report -- there is progress. as you can see in our progress report. the current average 2.5 million shots per day, a new record base that we will continue to build on. importantly, now two out of three adults age 65 and older have gotten at least their first shot. this is critical because 80% of covid deaths have been individuals 65 and over. given our progress on increasing supply, coupled with increasing the number of vaccinators in the field and the number of places to get vaccinated. the president announced that all adults adults will be eligible no later than may 1. how we are working to stop the spread of covid-19 across the continent. as part of the national strategy, the united states is committed to engaging with the international community and supporting efforts of humanitarian concerns. the u.s. reengaged with the w.h.o. on day one of his presidency. we committed to providing the most money for vaccinations of any country in the world, $4 billion. we work to manufacture safe and effective covid vaccines at a facility in india. now, given our visibility into vaccine supply in the u.s., we are lending a portion of our releasable astrazeneca vaccines to mexico and canada. we want to have as many tools in our tool kit as possible. we have three effective vaccines that went through a rigorous review process to be authorized by the fda. we are others going through the process now including astrazeneca. as we await these trials, many countries have already approved astrazeneca but need more supply. that includes canada and mexico. so balancing the need to let the approval process of the astrazeneca vaccine approval here in the u.s. with other countries, we will loan a portion of our astrazeneca vaccine to canada and mexico. it will allow them to meet a critical vaccination need in their countries providing help in america. this will not reduce the available supply of vaccines to americans. the doses we are loaning are not for use in the united states -- >> the benefits of in-person instruction are well recognized. as a mother of three myself, i know all too well the difficulties that arise for our children and parents and caregivers when children are not able to attend in person for school. these challenges are especially difficult for children and families from low resource communities as well as those from ethic minority communities. they get social and mental health and educational needs they need to succeed. when i became cdc director i promised i would lead with science, to rebuild trust in our institutions, it's critical to make decisions on evidence and facts. on february 12 our operational strategy was released on k-12 schools based on science at the time to help schools open and remain open for in-person learning. the science tells us then, just as now, that k-12 schools that implement strong layered strategy can open safely while protecting staff, teachers and students. cdc's operational strategy focused on five layered strategies. universal and correct use of ms -- masks, physical distancing, cleaning and diagnostic testing with rapid contact tracing with quarantine and in cooperation with local health departments. i said that cdc was going to follow the science. this is essential since the science of covid-19 is rapidly changing. this helps us to refine our recommendations, specifically for physical distancing. last week a study was published that looked at covid-19 in 250 massachusetts school districts over four months. it found that social distancing of 3 feet could safely be adapted when everyone, students and staff, wore a mask at all times. today three new studies are being published that add to this evidence base. one looked at data from utah elementary schools and found apart, even though the virus spread in the community was high. another report from kindergarten classrooms in missouri. it was good because they used layered strategies today. and in florida it was found that 60% of cases in students was not related to spread in schools. it also found that resuming in-person activity was know proportion at with cases. they also found that the numbers were higher in classrooms that did not have mandated mask use in place. three feet between students were common factors in this study. additional evidence continues to underscore why it's important for schools to use layered strategies to provide the greatest protection. in light of this, cdc updates our recommendations for physical distancing in classrooms in k-12. specifically in elementary schools, cdc recommends that all students remain at least 6 feet apart in classrooms where everyone is wearing a mask regardless whether the covid risk is low, moderate, substantial or high. in middle and high school, cdc is also recommending that students be at least 3 feet apart in classrooms where everyone is wearing a mask and the community level of risk is low, moderate or substantial. because covid-19 is spread more likely among older students, cdc recommends that middle and high school students should be at least six feet apart unless cohorting is possible. that's where peers and teachers are kept together to reduce spread throughout the school. we understand it is harding to cohort in older students. these recommendations are specific to students in las courtrooms with universal mask wearing. cdc recommendation 6 feet between adults and between adults and students. in common areas where masks cannot be worn, during singing, band and activities that can increase ventilation. and six feet should be used in community settings outside the classroom. today's announcement builds on our on going efforts to support staff, teachers, students as well as providing guidance and resources to get our nation's schools open as quickly and safely as possible. this includes $10 billion for screening testing for teachers, staff and students which we announced wednesday. and our on going work to get teachers vaccinated through our retail pharmacy program that wo schools. if you are an eligible educator and staff member and have not been vaccinated, i encourage you to go to cdc.gov to learn how to sign up for an appointment through this program. i'm hopeful we are turning a corner on this pandemic, getting our children back to school in-person instruction as soon as possible is a critical first step. i'm grateful to all the scientists who reduced the evidence to address the key question such as the distance required to remain safe so that we can move quickly to this end. thank you. i look forward to your questions. i will turn things over to dr. fauci. >> the cdc director, dr. walensky, just announcing the three feet recommendation separation for elementary school students in communities where there's a low incident of covid. the six feet in middle school and high school where the community evidence is high. but from the nation's largest teaching union, the nea is saying that in an email, the change to three feet distance for students in classrooms will be particularly challenging for large urban school districts and those that have not had access to fully implement the mitigation recommendations. problems already from the teaching front to this new recommendation today after weeks of declining cases. there are concerning signs of emerging cases and hospitalizations growing in several states, including michigan. top doctors warning the surge in europe could happen here as well if americans don't keep up public health measures like masking and if vaccinations slow. senator rand paul contradicted this in a contentious exchange with dr. fauci, claiming people are not at risk of contracting covid after recovering from the disease or getting vaccinated. >> you are wearing two masks, isn't that theater? >> here we go again with theater. when he talk about reinfection and you don't keep in the concept of variants, that's an entirely different ball game. let me just state for the record that masks are not theater. masks are protective. >> they are theater. if you have immunity, you are wearing a mask to give comfort to others. you are not wearing a mask because of science. >> i disagree with you. >> joining me now, frank luntz who conducted a focus group with vaccine hesitant trump voters, jim messina and dr. peter hotez. frank, we have seen reluctance among republicans, this is in your polling and your focus group because republican -- white republican voters are often more resistant than minority voters in some of the polling. to what do you attribute it? >> in fact, the group most resistant are young republicans 18 to 49. they don't trust politicians, the government. they think it is real. they believe it was a political tool to beat up on the former president. they are hesitant. they are making a statement, a political statement by not taking it. for others, they want to know about the side effects and they want to know how it was rushed into delivery. 90% of all doctors when given the chance have taken the vaccine. that's the key statistic. the second is that the covid vaccine is more effective than the flu vaccine which many of them have taken. third, your local doctor is supporting this. your personal doctor says do it. those are the three factors that make a difference. a non-partisan organization said that if we don't get republicans taking this vaccine, we will never hit herd immunity. at the risk of offending senator paul, this has to happen. i give you the three statistics as the reason to get the vaccine. >> frank, part of your focus group, chris christie who shaved personal experience. he got so sick and it was after debate prep in the white house. let me play it. >> you know how i got it. i went into what was supposed to be the safest place in america, the white house. i was the sickest of everybody and had the longest hospitalization. the next sickest person was the president. the next sickest was hope hicks who was the youngest and most fit person in that room. >> jim, does the white house have to adjust its strategy to try to reach those reluctant republican voters who as frank points out just don't trust the experts, don't trust the scientists and the younger ones, of course, think they are immune? >> i agree with frank. part of what we need to do is get surrogates that people trust. local doctors, nurses and all the research i have seen are the best surrogates. getting the politics out of this, which is what the white house is trying to do. leading with science is about getting the politics out of this to get down to the best messengers for individual targets. i think getting to doctors, nurses and local trusted voices is key for a variety of target populations, including african-americans, latinos and republicans. i think frank's research is what the white house is attempting to do. >> doctor, how do public health experts get out of the politics, reach out to doctors, not just experts such as yourself, but the family doctor to try to get the word out? there are health -- front line health workers who are refusing the vaccine. that's a problem. >> you know, one of the things i have been doing is whenever i can i try to go on conservative news outlets. i have gone on fox news and some of the others. the way i explain it is this is an evolving situation. what happened was the anti-vaccine movement in 2015 was kind of floundering because we had successfully debunked a lot of the fake vaccine autism links. what they did to reenergize was they attached onto the extreme political right of the republican party, the tea party. they began, especially down in texas and oklahoma, were able under the fake banner of health freedom, were able to convince parents not to vaccinate their kids. it expanded to protests again social distancing and contact tracing. the problem is now it has become mainstream to the republican party. anti-science is the mainstream platform of the republican party. it never used to be this way. we have to figure out a way to extricate it. >> that's not true. >> chime in, frank. >> we looked at 1,000 trump voters. that's not true. they do embrace the science. they do believe covid is real. they have an issue with the people who are telling them to take the vaccine. i will give you an example. the presidential ad that has four ex-presidents. they say i don't know those people know the science. they are more likely to trust you, but they are not going to trust a politician. they believe that covid is real. they believe that the virus is dangerous. they all see the randomness as governor chris christie is talking about. they are asking for the local doctor to deliver that massage and get it in their doctor's office. >> that's not always possible, frank. it's not practical. go ahead, doctor. >> we have to remember the reality in 2020. we saw icu nurse after icu nurse weeping because they were taking care of intubated, haven't later dependent individuals in red states in the midwest, in the southern states whose last dying words were that covid was a hoax and this is not real. not even being able to allow to die with dignity. there has been a full embrace of anti-science. obviously, it's going to be different from individual to individual. of course, people should hear from their family physician. we need the leaders of the republican party to step up and start reminding people that national academy of sciences war started with lincoln. it was eisenhower who started nasa. this is new. we can't have these marked ridiculous statements by rand paul. we can't have the governor of florida entertaining openly anti-science viewpoints in his press conference. that is a reality. >> we will not resolve this today. we will have everybody back. right now, frank, jim, doctor, i have to wrap it up. to be continued. that's a promise. that does it for "andrea mitchell reports." follow us online. have a great weekend. wear your mask. chuck todd is here with mtp daily right now. ♪♪ if it's friday, the president and vice president head to atlanta to mourn the members of the asian american community. investigators say nothing is off the table in their search for answers and the motive, including classifying them as a hate crime. the cdc makes a major revision for its guidance for schools. president biden hits a milestone. a surge in cases across europe and an uptick in infections in the united states 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