as of tonight, we know very little about most of the victims. now, information is still trickling in, but we still don't know literally anything about the victims in atlanta, beyond the fact that four asian women were killed. today, the atlanta deputy police chief said they were still in the process of notifying next of kin, fair enough. they also said that nothing is off the table in the investigation, including whether the murders were indeed a hate crime. we do know more about the four victims in the cherokee county shooting. they are delaney ashley yaon. paul andre michelles, age 54. a woman who was 49, and dao yo fung, who was 44. we also know ortiz was injured and is hospitalized in intensive care. out of all the victims, we know the most about delaina yan, she was visiting the spa with her husband who was in a separate room and wasn't injured. she had multiple children including a baby born just last summer. michelles was a handyman at young's asian massage, according to an interview his brother did with the guardian. that was the first place the gunman struck. and show was listed as the owner of a limited liability corporation associated with the massage company. tow immigrated to the united states many years ago. but take a look at this graphic again. the ones who appear as blank silhouettes, we know so little about these asian victims exposes once again the differences in communities based on things like race and citizenship status or what people do for a living. now, of course, there are plenty of reasons why victims' families may not be sharing details with the press. not everybody trusts the press knocking on their door. the same could go for why the police are taking so long to locate next of kin. what we do know is that asian people, people of color, women, immigrants, and those who do labor that is stigmatized or criminalized are often left faceless and nameless, even as victims of an atrocious crime. a symptom one can blame on, say, language barriers, but still, that isn't on the victims. that's on us. this is a moment when we, in this business, need to take a hard look frankly at the lack of racial and linguistic diversity within the media and in police departments. are there enough people on staff in news papers and networks and at police departments who can perform the basic function of interviewing people in their language at a time when it's critically necessary to do so? so that once again, certain communities don't get excluded from policies, conversations, investigations, and media coverage to the point where we don't even know their names. sorry, it's just odd. and frankly, disturbing, and outrageous how little we know about these victims. especially while seeing the great lengths that some in media and police will go to humanize a spree killer, to the point where a georgia sheriff's spokesperson who, by the way, promoting trumpa anti-asian t-shirts on his facebook page in march, described killer's actions like this. >> he understood the gravity of it, and he was pretty much fed up and kind of at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did. >> no, no, captain baker. you know who had a very bad day, the eight innocent people whose lives were violently taken by a killer and their families. joining me now is atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms. thank you so much for be here, madam mayor. you were at that press conference. i know this person is not in your police department. this is a different county's sheriff's office, but when you heard that sheriff's spokesman say, he had a bad day, he had a sexual addiction, what did you think? >> well, you know, joy, we had been in the back, and i had gotten a prebriefing, so what i thought he was relaying was what the shooter had relaid to him. now, clearly, he could have done a better job in making sure that people understood that. but more importantly, people were still hurt by what they perceived to be the insensitivity of it. and standing there, and even with what i knew then, i obviously had not seen the facebook post, so that in and of itself is disturbing. but you know, this is a dark day in our city yesterday. cherokee county i believe had one murder all of last year and then they had a mass shooting yesterday, so these clearly aren't people who are used to speaking about murders publicly. and certainly, the sensitivities and the diversity we're used to speaking about when we speak in atlanta, obviously, was lost in that moment. >> well, and you know, cherokee county, i want to note, they did issue an apology, the sheriff's office, did issue an apology for those who were taken aback and indeed offended by what was said. it raises a question about the capabilities that law enforcement have in dealing with these situations. we still don't know anything about the atlanta victims. is this in part a lack of resources, meaning in language resources. people who can go and interview family and friends, people who were in those establishments, in their own language. people with enough sensitivity to understand the gravity of this for the community. is that also a problem among atlanta police? >> well, what's happening here, i mean, there's several things that are at play. one, we have to make sure that we positively identify them, and again, this is in fulton county, where we have a number of bodies in fulton county in our morgue. and secondly, we have to make sure we reach the next of kin because if we have not reached the next of kin, we certainly don't want to release their name. but we understand that the language barriers are real. i don't believe that is an issue with this case. but certainly, it's something that we're always sensitive to. >> let's talk about security. have there been any changes in the security posture of atlanta police regarding asian communities and asian american communities due to the uptick in violence that we have seen around the country, and after this, will there be? >> yes, we have increased patrols in areas that we know have several asian-owned businesses. we have also reached out, we spent the past day or so reaching out to several leaders across our city just to make sure that we are aware of threats that may not have come to our attention. we have been in touch with our legislators, so we're doing all we can to make sure that our communities feel safe and protected. and what i said yesterday, joy, was that when there's violence against any community, it's violence against us all. eight people were murdered on yesterday. or the day before yesterday. >> let me finally ask you, you know that the president and vice president are coming to town. of course, the vice president is probably the most prominent asian american woman in the country. what are the plans, you know, there's a lot of nerves, a lot of nervousness about any kind of a visit like this, particularly in this climate. has the security posture changed in terms of atlanta security for their arrival? >> well, we're always on heightened security any time we have the president visiting and to have the president and vice president certainly we're on heightened security. but even their plans have changed for their visit on tomorrow. there was a planned rally. they are not having the rally, being sensitive and respectful to what we just endured as a city, and they will spend time with leaders in the asian american community, hosting a listening session. and so i think it's appropriate, and i'm glad that they are coming. it's an opportunity for us to hear first-hand that hurt and that pain that we know the asian american community has been experiencing. since the last guy left the white house. >> indeed. it's such a timely visit. atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms, always appreciate you. thank you for your time. >> and joining me now is georgia state representative chairs, sam park and michelle kim, cofounder and ceo of awaken. and i'll start with you, representative park. you just heard the mayor talk about security and sort of the posture there. i want to play for you, this is from my producers, just some members of the aapi community, just talking about the shootings and how it's made folks feel in the community. take a listen. >> feels like in all fronts, we are afraid. we're afraid for our lives, for our businesses, for our community. >> i feel angry and also scared at the same time. me, myself, and my mom and my sister, we're here managing the restaurant. and we're asian minority. it could happen to anyone. this is my home. and this shouldn't happen to anybody. >> representative park, is there enough security in your view in these communities, particularly after what just happened? >> so i know in gwinnett, they increased police presence. and that's where the vast majority of where asians call home. i know they're doing a phenomenal john and they're going to be doing everything they can to make sure our asian american businesses and individuals feel safe. >> you know, and michelle, that's a two-edged sword, because if there are increased patrols but there's a sense police aren't sensitive to the community, as we just heard with that sheriff, who is not, again, from atlanta, but he said what he said and had the t-shirts he had on his facebook page. just talk about that balance a little bit. >> yeah. i think that's a really good point, joy. i think our community, we need to listen to the communities and the most marginalized communities within the aapi umbrella. when we think about folks who are feeling unsafe with the presence of police, it includes people who are killed, people who are working low wage jobs, people who may be undocumented, people who may be in occupations that are not protected and are often criminalized like sex work or massage parlors. so i think it's more than a double-edged sword. i think it's actually a grave threat and danger to our communities and most marginalized among us are not actually feeling safe with the presence of police. >> that's the double-edged sword. then there's the issue of representation and existence. we have this graphic up where the people who are in atlanta, we just don't even know their names. i want to let you listen to a friend of one of the people we do know. her name was delaina. and this is a friend of hers talking about her. take a listen. >> always had a big smile on her face. she liked to talk about her family, her kids. she liked to make others laugh. she had her regulars, she had her coworkers, she had a lot of people who loved her. for her to die this way is truly unspeakable. delaina, we loved you. we still love you. and we still wish you were here with us. >> i mean, we -- you know, god bless all of these families, but for the people who are still anonymous here, do you think it is important for us to be able to see that kind of outpouring for them? and do you have more information as an elected official about how it's going in trying to identify these asian victims? >> so, unfortunately, i don't have any additional information. that's not publicly made available. of course, we are very much concerned. there have been some korean american newspapers saying the victims were of korean descent, but we want to be sensitive and respectful to the victims and their families. to the earlier point as well, in terms of the balance that we have to strike in terms of increased law enforcement, it takes me to the point, especially gwinnett, in which elections matter. previously, we had 287-g in place under a republican sheriff in which a lot of immigrant communities were very scared to reach out to law enforcement. that's changed. we now have a democratic sheriff who immediately repealed 287-g in part with the support of asian american voters who brought the political change necessary to insure that these communities can come out of hiding and be treated with dignity. >> and that's a really important point, michelle, because you know, it's frustrating for us, for me as a journalist, to not be able to tell people who these victims are and to be able to give them that dignity on television because we just don't know. but we know that we're also in a medium where there aren't a lot of in-language speakers. there aren't necessarily people who can communicate in the language that people might speak or be converse enough with the community to know how to make the approach. just talk to us about what can we do differently? give us advice here just from a journalistic point of view. what should we be doing better? >> you kind of alluded to it earlier in terms of having the right representation of people who are working in the systems who are reporting in the newsrooms. who can speak the language, who can understand the community. i think the broader point about trust is also important for us to understand. in terms of how people view the relationship that they have and how authentic and honest they can be in sharing their stories. that there is actual ongoing interest and understanding the stories of asian americans and asian people in this community, because i am actually getting a lot more information from korean news outlets in atlanta. and they are speaking to the victims' families, and witnesses in korean language. they're sharing information that's not being shared on mass media. so i do think that there needs to be much longer term commitment to building that relationship and trust, to understand the needs of the community more deeply. >> the producer who produced this segment and the rest of our team, we were talking about the exact same thing and she said the exact same thing. georgia state representative sam park, and michelle kim, thank you both so much. and up next, white house press secretary jen psaki joins me on voting rights, the filibuster, and how novel it must be to work for a president who is actually standing up to vladimir putin instead of trying to be snuggled by him. plus, guess who's back. scott atlas, the man with no infectious disease experience who advised the previous president to just let everyone get covid to build up herd immunity, which would have killed millions of people. now dr. atlas has found another sucker to give his deadly advice to. a person who had come so close, so close to be the absolute worst on several occasions by lifting restrictions early and reserving vaccines for his rich donor friends. but that person has finally made it to being tonight's absolute worst. the reidout continues after this. this if your dry eye symptoms keep coming back, inflammation in your eye might be to blame. looks like a great day for achy, burning eyes over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes and may provide temporary relief. ha! these drops probably won't touch me. xiidra works differently, targeting inflammation that can cause dry eye disease. what is that? 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have you, has the white house had conversations with the joe manchins of the world and the kyrsten sinemas of the world to say you can't work with someone like lindsey graham and we can't overcome something like lindsey graham, who has vowed to stop voting rights at all costs. he doesn't mind being haunted by the ghost of john lewis. he will do whatever it takes to stop voting rights. shouldn't the white house get behind just ending the filibuster? >> well, it's not a white house rule or a law, even, as you know, joy. it's a senate rule. it's a senate process. the president has certainly, he's watching closely. there's a lot of interesting ideas out there. i'm sure he's happy to listen to people and talk to them about their ideas to make changes. he talked just earlier this week about whether it should be harder and not easier to block legislation, return to the talking filibuster, which is an idea that has been put out there. it shouldn't be so easy to do it. his preference is not to make changes because he wants democrats and republicans to work together. he wants to find a way forward. he thinks that voting rights is something that there should be support for, and he's going to keep working at that. but he's happy to hear ideas and he's certainly not going to allow obstruction for important things like making it easier to vote. >> well, that's the question i guess i have. is bipartisanship in and of itself more important than passing voting rights, immigration reform, and you know, structurally changing things like the minimum wage? is just bipartisanship in and of telephone is more important than those things? >> we don't see it exactly as a choice like that. obviously, he's not going to allow political games in washington to hold his agenda hostage or prevent work being done on behalf of the american people. reconciliation was used, as you know, for the american rescue plan, which delivers aid and assistance to people across the country, but he also believes there should be an opportunity and the door should be open to bipartisanship, and we have to keep working at that, even if we haven't reached that at this point in time. >> and i know that the president and vice president will be talking with stacey abrams when you all get to atlanta, which i think is going to be an interesting conversation. let's talk about judges for one moment. ketanji brown's name has been floating around as somebody who might soon be on the court. do you expect stephen breyer, is there any inkling he might be stepping down and that this might be a thing that's happening soon? >> i don't have any insight into that. i know there are many reporters looking into what's the future there. i will say that the president remains committed to when there's an opening, whenever that may be, of course, naming the first african-american woman to the supreme court. that's something he stands by. and he's looking forward to judges, naming judges that represent the diversity of views and experiences in this country, including when he has an opportunity, maybe he will, maybe he won't at some point, to nominate a supreme court justice. so judges are certainly on his meantime. >> and ketanji brown top of that list? is that the reason she's being looked at to replace merrick garland in the d.c. circuit. >> she has a great reputation, great record, incredibly impressive judge and legal expert, but i don't have anything to announce for you here today. i have learned enough not to get ahead of the president on that kind of thing. >> all right, let's talk about vladimir putin for just a moment. he had a sort of, i know you are but what am i response to the president, essentially calling him a killer. and his response had to do with sort of, you know, who is america to talk when we have had things like slavery and dropping bombs on hire oshe hiroshima an nagasaki. he had a long standing adversarial relationship to the united states. what do you say to that because he's using that tack now? >> first, we can be self-reflective here in the united states and recognize that we need to do much more to address racial injustice and become a better country. we're working on that. the president is committed to that. the vice president is committed to that. we all are. at the same time, we're not going to sit by and tolerate and look the other way when the russian government is getting involved in our elections, when they are putting bounties on our troops, something we're looking into, when they are taking malign actions against our country. and so what the president -- the president is going to be straightforward. leers going to take action when it's warranted and he's not going to mince words or hold back when they need to be said. at the same time, how diplomacy wirks when it's functioning which is a difference from the last four years is you don't hold back, you're straightforward, you raise concerns where you have them and look for opportunities to work together. there are opportunities with russia, nuclear proliferation, we just signed an extension of the start treaty, so we'll look for that too. my bet is that president putin has a much tougher skin than maybe his staff is giving him credit for. >> do you think that the language from the white house has been tougher, for instance, on putin than it has been on the saudi prince who was involved in killing khashoggi? the language seems to be tougher on putin. >> well, i think the president talked about making him a pariah during the campaign just a year ago or a little over a year ago. i think what we look at this through the prism of, joy, is what's in the national interest of the united states, and we're going to -- we have not held back either as it relates to saudi arabia and taking action to insure that a number of individuals are held accountable, to recalibrate our relationship, to put pressure on them as it relates to human rights abuses and abuses of journalists and dissidents. and we have seen some actions and some changes. more needs to be done. we're going to continue to hold them accountable. we're also going to take -- we're also going to make sure that the russian government pays the price. so that's our approach to global foreign policy and diplomacy. it can be multilayered. it can be complicated, but we want to do what's in the interest of the united states, and that's what our focus is for any of these relationships. >> i have a whole other round of questions on immigration but i'm out of time. i'm going to ask you to please come back, thank you for being here. hopefully you'll come back. >> absolutely. >> thank you very much. and appreciate it. don't miss tomorrow night's "reidout." >> and still ahead t is a shame that we can have only one absolute worst, because trust me, trust me, the congressman was definitely in the running tonight. there were lots of people in the running, all sorts of people. for people for the congressman who is in the running tonight for some shocking remarks he made during a house hearing on anti-asian violence. and we'll talk about that when we come back. allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst psst you're good i think the sketchy website i bought this turtle from stole all of my info. ooh, have you looked on the bright side? 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also known as lynching. historically speaking, the people he's referring to as the bad guys were the victims of these very american extra judicial murders and they were overwhelmingly black americans and other people of color. in fact, one of the largest mass lynchings in u.s. history was committed against chinese americans in los angeles in 1871. when a mob of about 500 white men entered old chinatown after a police officer was injured and a civilian helping to respond to a dispute between rival groups was killed. in a violent frenzy that ensued after rumors spread that the chinese were killing white people, the lynch mob created a makeshift gallows and hanged or shot up to 20 chinese immigrants. lynchingess are a very real and very ugly part of american history, so for congressman roy to glorify them is, well, it's clarifying. and roy did more than that. he used a hearing about anti-asian racem to single out china in true trump style. >> so now we're talking about whether talking about china, the chinese communist party, whatever phrasing we want to use, and if some people are saying we think those guys are the bad guys for whatever reason, i mean to state clearly, i do. >> mr. masked beard's comments earned him an emotional rebuke from grace mangof new york. >> i want to go back to something that mr. roy said earlier. your president and your party and your colleagues can talk about issues with any other country that you want, but you don't have to do it by putting a bull's eye on the back of asian americans across this country, on our grandparents, on our kids. this hearing was to address the hurt and pain of our community, to find solutions, and we will not let you take our voice away from us. >> joining me now is kurt bardella, and you would think that hearing a fellow member of congress weeping, you know, that's her family that's in danger because of the stupid things that people like chip roy say, and by the way, he's the former chief of staff to ted cruz, which won't surprise anyone. here was his response. he didn't apologize. he said i said what i said. he said apparently some folks are freaking out that i used an old ecpression about finding all the rope in texas and a tall oak tree, i meant it. we should restore order by tamping out evil actors not turn america into -- no apologies, your thoughts. >> when someone reveals themselves to you, it's best to believe them, joy. chip roy is a racist. he is a bigot. he is part of the problem that we are facing in this country with racism turned to violence against people of color, against asian americans. it is that type of attitude, that type of thinking, that type of rhetoric that has us in this situation in the first place. people like chip roy think that people like you and i aren't good enough. aren't equal to him. because we're not white. that our lives matter less than his. and he sat there today in a dais during a committee hearing about violence and hate crimes against minorities, and had the audacity to bring up something that you and i know all too well has overt racist connotations. he may as well have taken out a poster and said hey, it's okay to lynch asian americans in this country. he's okay about that. and when confronted about it, he doubled down on it tells you he's not sorry. those are his words, and what's going to happen? more violence. more targeting of asian americans. more discrimination. more of what we have been seeing since 2020, we have had 150% increase in hate crimes against asian americans. and those are the ones we know of. you and i both know most hate crimes in this country go underreported. why? because law enforcement is not something you and i can trust. we saw that yesterday with that press conference. and that sheriff who, oh, surprise, it turns out the person that he called a victim, the perpetrator of these crimes, turns out that the sheriff has a history of posting racist things against asian americans. these are the chip roys of the world, and these are the people that we need to be worried about. >> you know, i think about the republican party, you know, it's called the party of lincoln, but it's completely flipped on its head. it's absorbed the old dixiecrat line. you have cindy hyde-smith who got re-elected after saying she would be front row in a hanging. the number three guy in the republican house called himself, nobody called him that, he called himself david duke without the baggage. you should be in leadership. put him in leadership. we now have a dozen republicans who voted against giving the congressional gold medal to the capitol police because they didn't like the lynch mob who showed up to hang mike pence called a mob. they don't like the fact they were called an insurrectionist mob. can we show some of the video of the new fbi video of the capitol, of what the capitol police had and what they were dealing with? these guys, who ron johnson said love america. i mean, it's almost as if they're sort of deciding to be the, i don't know, the 1950s dixiecrats instead of republicans. >> i mean, i think it was also ron johnson who said that he looked out at that mob and he wasn't afraid, but had that been black lives matter protesters, he would have been afraid. again, they're saying the quiet part out loud now, joy. they're not even trying to hide it. they're not trying to mask their racism with coded words and coded language. they are outright being racist. and i think it's time that when we talk about them and when the media reports on them, they identify them as such. these aren't quote/unquote conservative positions. these are racist positions. these aren't people that are saying there are both sides and equality that needs to be there, these are white nationalists and the rest of us who believe that racism is wrong. and the republican party -- >> can i -- >> if you're a racist, it's cause for promotion. for everybody else, that tells you -- >> it's bizarre. you used to be a republican. you're a politico like me, because if there was a strategy in it, you would think it's wicked but at least there's a reason for it. we're living in a country where demographically, this screen here is the future. we're becoming more diverse. you used to be a republican. republicans actually used to do pretty well with asian americans. now, asian americans vote roughly like african-americans. you're starting to see communities that used to be open to republicans, muslim americans, republicans used to do well with some of these communities. it's like they're trying to drive them all to the democrats. you had ted cruz saying, oh, they only want to do immigration reform because they want more brown people to vote for them. you're a brown person, ted cruz, so can you explain to me what you think the strategy is of becoming hard core white interests party for the republicans? what could be the strategy here? >> i mean, it just seems that they have decided to give in to the most radical and extreme elements of their base rather than try to change and make the moves toward progress. i remember that famous autopsy that the republican party did after getting shellacked in the alecs in the earlier part of last decade, and it talked about the need to have a big tent party. it talked about the need to reach out and make inroads with hispanics and latinos and african-americans, and here we are a decade later and they're doing the exact opposite. they're putting everyone in a position to choose between white nationalism and anything but that. and you look at even what's going on in georgia, part of the reason why georgia flipped, both the senate race as well as some very competitive house races, the asian american community, their vote more than doubled in this election cycle in some of these races. they were the difference between winning and losing. and when you have people like chip roy putting on that performance today of racism, you're just sending the message to asian americans that there is no place for us in the republican party. >> yeah, and i apologize i didn't get to t but you have president george w. bush declaring himself disgusted to describe the january 6th massacre. george w. bush is further toward my politics at this point, which is shocking for anyone who knows my previous relationship with george bush. but it was disgusting. kurt bardella, thank you for being here. >> next up, tonight's absolute worst. >> by the way, this try hard has been in the running for weeks. but tonight, he's finally made it. he's the absolute worst. we'll be right back. to laundry, everyone thinks their way is the right way. i wash on delicate. i just stuff everything in. you have to wash on cold, because it saves energy. the secret is, tide pods work no matter how you wash. so, everyone is right. it's got to be tide. my retirement plan with voya keeps me moving forward. they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement... ...they're with me all the way through it. voya. be confident to and through retirement. we are hoping things will pick up by q3. yeah...uh... doug? 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yes i am! i'm proud to announce that, tomorrow, 58 days into our administration, we will have met my goal of administering 100 million shots to our fellow americans. that's weeks ahead of schedule. >> president biden provided some very good news, ahead of tomorrow's expected milestone with more than 40 days to spare. the president, also, advised americans that now is not the time to let down our guard. it comes, as we see a rise in new coronavirus cases, in 16 states, and the district of columbia, over the past two weeks. more states have been easing restrictions, and this morning, dr. anthony fauci warned that we could face another surge like what's happening in europe, if we're not careful. >> well, i think, it's pretty clear that, there are some states, now, that are pulling back, i believe, a bit more prematurely than they should on the public-health measures. there is the risk that you are going to rebound. this is exactly what happened in europe. they're generally three or four weeks ahead of us in the dynamics of their outbreak. and they saw the same thing. they plateaued. and then, they started to take off. and we are seeing that in a few of the states. >> joining me now is dr. kavita approximate patel. former obama white house and -- thank you for being here, dr. patel. this is my fear. we have got states like florida, that are like, come on down. we're fine. you got all these states opening up. and then, let me listen to senator rand paul. also, allegedly, a doctor, in theory. having an exchange with dr. fauci about masks. take a listen. >> it's not -- >> the vaccine and you are wearing two masks. isn't that theater? >> no, it's not. here we go again with the theater. let's get down to the facts. when you talk about reinfection and you don't keep, in the concept of variants, that's an entirely different ball game. that's a good reason for a mask. >> dr. patel, are you worried that we are about to have another major outbreak? >> i am, joy. i -- i will say, though, the news you started with. with 100 million vaccinations is the only thing that's keeping me somewhat calm, these days. because as dr. fauci mentioned, and you covered the numbers. we are seeing variants, particularly in places like manhattan, where there is a new york-based variant, b 1526 which is now causing, in the last-three weeks, about 65% of infections, likely more transmissible. so, i am very worried that we will -- i -- i think america should brace for an increase in cases. a plateau, and then an increase. the only thing that i think can hold us back from this surge is the fact that we're opening up vaccinations the way we are. >> but i mean, also -- but also, hoping up states. i mean, do you think that the momentum toward back to normal is so, sort of, overwhelming, at this point. and people are so spun up and just ready to go back to their normal lives and sick of wearing masks and distancing and doing everything, that it's almost impossible to stop. that's, i guess, what worries me the most. >> yeah. and you should be worried. and i think you're seeing a degree of people -- you, myself, a number of us, who are kind of sitting put. because we know that's the safest thing to do. maybe, gathering with other vaccinated people or trying to stay safe. but you are seeing the images just as much as i. and it's not just the people on beaches because where do they go after they are done with the beach? they're packing restaurants, bars, indoor places. and they are age group that is likely to not be vaccinated but most likely to carry the virus to other people as well. so, you are absolutely right. i do think, however, this is, you know, the train's left the station. and what i'm trying to do is convey, to people, you -- the states can do what they want. the mayors can do what they want. you, as an individual, have a role to play. staying safe, by wearing a mask. and then, i want to be optimistic. these vaccines save lives, so it's your turn, get your vaccine. and then, do your part to keep other people safe but that takes time. >> can -- can we talk about the, when you get it? because one of the frustrating things, that every state has their own rules. i was tweeting today about maryland is one of the hardest places to get the vaccine. good luck getting it, if you are in the state. some states, seems to be pretty easy. friends of mine. new york of the it's fairly simple to get it. it seems like the states are so varied. should there just be a uniform-cdc guideline, on give it to this group of people, first. then, this person. then, this group. then, this group. to make at least the possibility of uniformity, nationwide? >> i do, yes. i wish that had happened from the beginning, as you and i have spoken about. this happened with previous administration having no responsibility in this. the cdc has put out responsible guidelines. they have just been implemented not even at the state level. i'm in maryland. at the county level. at the zip-code level. it's crazy. so, you are absolutely right. i actually think that's where biden saying may 1st, that was almost his way of saying we are going to make everyone eligible. and guess what? it's working because, now, maryland has said by april 27th, everybody is eligible. low and behold. but you're right. and i do think it's important to say what you said because this is not going to go away. we might need to do another round of covid shots, right? so, we should learn the lesson. and just get it -- keep it simple, stupid. that's what we learned and we need to do that. >> and really quickly, out of time. is there a vaccine that's better than the others? because people are worried about johnson & johnson. they are worried about astrazeneca. is one better than the other? >> no. the -- the -- the one that's the -- the one that's better is the one that you can get first. that's the one that's better. all three and future ones prevent death, prevent severe hospitalization. full stop, said and done. >> best one is one you can get. get what you can, especially if you are in maryland. good luck. thank you, dr. kavita patel. that is tonight's reid out. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight, on "all in." new footage of the brutal attack at the capitol. the fbi, asking for help, even as republicans try to play down the violence. tonight, senator tammy duckworth on the excuses for the insurrectionists. and the excuses for the shooter, who gunned down eight people at asian spas in georgia, as calls intensify to charge him with a hate crime. >> our investigation is looking at everything. so, nothing is off the table for our investigation. then, new concerns over rising-covid cases. while rand paul spreads misinformation on capitol hill.

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