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administration, maybe even before that, to begin to change the paradigm. >> is cy vance about to nail donald trump? joins me live. and high profile new york democrats join the calls for andrew cuomo's resignation, rebecca traifter reporting from inside the office. "all in" starts now. hello, i'm chris hayes. it's still sinking in the biden administration was able to pass this towering achievement that looked improbable even in december. think back. race called for biden. clear he was winner but sitting president was doing everything in his power attempting to overturn the election through legal and extralegal means and balance of the senate was up for grabs. came down to georgia and democrats had to win two seats and had not won a senate chair in georgia in decades. but here we are. oldest man elected president, been in public life for 50 years, ran as centrist. narrow majority came together to deliver most processive comprehensive rescue package in many generations. >> we democrats made promises, we made promises in georgia, in the country. we said if we gained the senate, kept the house and elected the president, we would finally get things done. >> we both served in the senate, we know there's rarely been a bill so concrete and tangible. mr. president, people will feel and see what we all did here. >> i served 36 years in the senate, i know how hard it is to pass major, consequential legislation, particularly when we only have minor, small majorities in both houses, you've done an incredible job. >> joe biden and democrats promised people cash assistance, going to deliver it. going to hit some bank accounts this weekend. if you need more perfect example of the contrast between this and previous administration. in april the white house delayed sending people checks so donald trump could find a place to put his name on it. this time the payments begin immediately. this bill is so big, a ton of stuff in it, really great stuff. lot of people just don't know about it. we discussed earlier this week about the refundable child tax credit, just saying it makes you say what, but it's payments, households with less than $100,000 a year, vast majority, parents of children aged six and under receiving $300 monthly payments, via direct deposit or through the mail in july. and others $250 a month and claim the rest of the credit when they file. per kid every month. it's going to help so many people. "atlantic" writer tweeted in past few days i talked to folks who will get these allowances and none had any idea the money is coming. if this is you, expect it, tell your friends. package also has, and i hadn't noticed this until a few days ago, 100% cobra subsidy through september. if you lose your job, want to keep your health insurance, federal government will now pay entirety of that premium for six months. lot of people decline to use it because you have to pay for whole plan without help from employer, too expensive when you lost your job. now it's free through september. other parts are by no means controversial, supported by both parties, $28.6 billion for restaurants. something that republican senator roger wicker bragged about on twitter despite voting against it in final bill. zero republicans in either chamber voted to support this package. zero, it's polling at 70%. republican party is lined up against this good and popular legislation that's going to tangibly improve millions of people's lives coming out of one of the worst years in american life. when democrats were celebrating in the rose garden, no republicans were there because none of them voted for it. even though, again another contrast here, last march passed $2.2 trillion c.a.r.e.s. act, for donald trump to sign. full support from democrats despite that president was republican, but none of them were invited to that ceremony. meanwhile the biden administration hit goal of 100 million shots in 100 days with more to spare. and set a record. 2.92 million vaccinations reported today. new record. hundreds of millions of doses coming online. president biden is pushing for every adult to be able to get the vaccine starting may 1st with a goal of a summer that looks normalish. it's still early in the recovery process. lot can go economically, health-wise, i know everyone is frankly scared and scarred to hope. but it is impossible, impossible not to just take stock of the contrast between the leadership we had and the leadership we have now. bring in one of the democratic senators who voted for covid relief package, pushed for expanded child tax credit for years, senator michael bennett of colorado. i've read a bunch of quotes, senator brown is a frequent guest, saying this is why i became a senator, best vote i ever cast, do you feel that? if so, why? >> i do feel that. and i heard her say that saturday when we voted for this bill. look, i've been working for years on a bill to cut childhood poverty by almost 50%, and joe biden put that in this bill. it's going to transform the lives of millions of american children, and their families, and i think it's going to pull us away from the authoritarianism, this whole bill, what trump represented, and a washington that worked for the wealthiest people in the country instead of the people that desperately need it because for 50 years had economy worked really well for richest people but not bottom 90% of the american people. and the contrast between what we did with this bill and what donald trump did with his tax bill i think will endure for years and years and years. >> something that's interesting about the child tax credit, just want to focus on this for a second. i think when people hear it will cut child poverty by half, projected, they think of it as a program for the poor. but part of the brilliance of the design of this program is that it's -- i think the majority of american households with kids probably, somewhere around there, are getting this money. >> 90% of american kids are going to be getting this money. 90%. cut childhood poverty in half, a massive tax cut for working people and middle class who can spend money on housing, health care, higher education, early childhood education. it's really easy to summarize the town halls i've had last 11 years in senate after being superintendent of denver public schools. michael, we're working really hrd, can't afford housing, higher ed, early childhood. this bill is going to help them do this. >> something somewhat politically ingenious here, it's cut taxes, including refundable credit. even if you don't owe money you get money back. it's created this money to go to 90% of kids in this country. it's only for one year right now. which means, as i understand it, one of the big political fights in 2022 ahead of the midterms will be if republicans want to raise taxes on the millions of families that have children. >> no doubt about it. do they want to raise taxes on the millions of families that have children? do they want to double the childhood poverty rate not making this permanent? >> it's amazing to see the polling on this provision of the bill. 95% of democrats support the bill. 73% of republicans support this provision in the bill. i think the pressure is going to be enormous. brown and booker and harris and so many others, rosa dloerra in the house and her team did so much to get to this point, not to mention joe biden who put it in the package. we're in good place to make an argument why to make it permanent, and running in state like mine or ohio or pennsylvania or wisconsin, what it means to stand up for working people versus someone going to washington to cut taxes for richest in the country when we have great income inequality we've had since 1988. that's the contrast between the biden tax cut and the trump tax cut. >> how do you explain this bill now it's passed? two lessons i can glean. joe biden was in the obama administration, that relief package, stimulus, was not sufficient scale-wise, and was not sold well enough, passed it and moved on to health care fight. what do you think of letting people know basic stuff like cobra subsidized, getting the message out about what is in the bill? >> in a way this is my dream come true, not many people notice that i ran for president but i did on this child tax credit, and one of the things i said was, i look forward to when we pass to, to going to red counties in this country and sitting down with farmers and ranchers who in colorado are among the best mathematicians i know, saying bring your calculators, fox news you can come and bring your calculators too, going to do a math exercise to see what this bill does for you compared to trump's bill. i'm not going to have that opportunity as president but joe biden will, and i hope he takes this opportunity to go to not just blue places but red places and show people, demonstrate why this bill is so beneficial to them. why it will make such a meaningful difference in their lives, and maybe even help stitch the country back together again. not because -- because we've seen every single republican voted against this in washington, even though this provision is supported by 73% of republicans. joe biden will go out and talk to republicans and democrats, i think he can bring the country back together by starting -- showing them what's in the bill. >> senator michael bennet of colorado, he's correct, he did run for president in primary, i know that because i interviewed you as candidate. >> that's true. >> thank you for making time tonight. >> thanks for having me, chris, thanks for everybody working to strengthen this democracy of ours, we have a lot of work to do but off to an amazing start. >> thank you senator. there's amazing new piece in the new yorker. former daughter-in-law of weisselberg. showed up as mourning his mother, sitting shiva. trump showed up in a limousine and blurted out this is where my cfo lives, it's embarrassing. then showed shiva attendees photographs of naked women with him on a yacht. after that, he starts hitting on me, she said. there is so much more in that new yorker piece who makes a strong case that manhattan d.a. may file against donald trump. that story and jane mare are next. are next ♪ got my hair ♪ ♪ got my head ♪ ♪ got my brains ♪ ♪ got my ears ♪ ♪ got my heart ♪ ♪ got my soul ♪ ♪ got my mouth ♪ ♪ i got life ♪ this is how you become the best! ♪“you're the best” by joe esposito♪ ♪ [triumphantly yells] [ding] don't get mad. get e*trade. are you packed yet? 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>> i think it is quite serious, and i think that what you can tell from talking to people close to the investigation is that they are -- they really -- the quotes from people i interviewed who have been in and been interviewed by the investigators say they mean business. they're asking questions that are not just broad but are laser sharp, and very focused. they've seemed to have a lot of attention on in particular the family of alan weisselberg, the chief financial officer for the trump organization. seem to be trying to push him to flip on trump, putting pressure on him and his family. he's got two sons who also have worked in ways to help trump. one for a banking company, latter capital, that's made huge loans to the trump organization, and the other son manages the wolman ice skating rink in new york and the carousel. the trump organization has a contract with new york city to run. it's like the family business, they're enmeshed in this thing and prosecutors seem to be closing in on them. they've got the records now to pour over trump's taxes and more importantly all the notes from the accountants that show how trump and the organization arrived at the numbers. >> weisselberg is a key figure, everyone who has covered trump says he's the one who knows the business, numbers and inputs and outputs better than anyone. and his daughter-in-law is the source of that incredible anecdote that appears in your story about sitting shiva, and seems like prosecutors have zeroed in on him. say a little more about the evidence that that's the case. >> among other things, prosecutors have called in his former daughter-in-law, jennifer weisselberg, and interviewed her. she's divorced from one of his sons, and she has been able to provide records and information on how the trump organization paid her former husband, alan weisselberg's son, partly by loaning a free apartment to him. problem is with this free apartment, it was for seven years on central park south in manhattan. problem with taking a free apartment, if you don't declare it on taxes could be in a lot of trouble, it's a form of compensation. what she said to me at one point is what the trump organization does is give you this stuff, and then as a means of control. then if you haven't declared it, they've got you, and you've got to do whatever they ask you to do. and so what she is good witness for is just describing the relationships inside this opaque trump organization. people doing this probe are very interested in basically what is weisselberg's relationship with trump and she's been very forthcoming about that. >> if anyone is watching this and getting a free apartment, i'm not an accountant but you have to declare that, that's a bright line. there's great detail about the secrecy around the investigation. incredibly fraught, politically, ex-president, et cetera. digital records, hard drive is believed to be locked in high security annex in lower manhattan, protected by double set of doors like in bank vaults. blocked with foil to block attempts to get to digital evidence. i got the idea they understand the stakes on this. >> they're really serious about this. as daniel alonzo, the former deputy to vance says, if trump is charged criminally or one of his businesses is charged, what he said to me, it's nuclear war. they realize what they're going up against. they've done amazingly well, they've gotten records by going up to the supreme court twice, which is -- you know, this is a local prosecutor's office, a famous one, but it's amazing, they've done this, got records and seem to be gaining speed. >> so final question for you is, vance announces he's not seeking re-election. i think that was pretty anticipated. what does that mean for this probe? >> it kind of throws it open to an unknown successor. i think it suggests that -- a couple of things. one, if vance decides to press charges, he will -- it's not for any political reasons, he's not running for re-election again, insulates him in that important decision from politics. at the same time all possible successors are running for office and that's going to be a very political process. there's continuity though. i think what's important for people to know is vance brought on, as you mentioned earlier, pomeranz, a admired lawyer in new york city, a special assistant d.a. in this case. he's the man running a lot of it at this point. there are a lot of people on that team who will be continuity through this. vance has taken measures to keep it running smoothly even after he leaves. >> jane mayer, great reporting on this. i learned a ton from the piece in the new yorker tlt thank you so much. >> thanks chris. both new york senators join the growing call for governor cuomo's resignation, very big deal. rebecca traifter has a incredible piece of life inside cuomo land next. inside cuomo land next. and since she's got goals, she might need help reaching them, and so she'll get some help from fidelity, and at fidelity, someone will help her create a plan for all her goals, which means suzie will be feeling so good about that plan, she can just enjoy right now. that's the planning effect, from fidelity. here you go, let me help you. so good about that plan, she can just enjoy right now. hi mr. charles, we made you dinner. ahh, thank you! ready to eat? 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>> i also felt the same way when andrea stewart cousins, the majority leader in the state called him to. as numbers have grown every day, i've been working on this piece and half of my brain saying is he going to resign before i publish this piece? thought it this morning waiting for it to go live. is he going to resign before the piece comes out? it is a huge deal for senators gillibrand and schumer and members of the new york congressional delegation, ranging from progressive branch to centrist branch to call on him to resign, yet did not sound like a man eager to resign. >> there's a bunch of different things going on here. i want to talk about the unified theory of it. that's what's so good about your piece. six women, five named, one unnamed who accuse him of sexual harassment in varying types and degrees of severity, i think it's fair to say. nursing home data cover-up, and fact that for the duration of his public life, andrew cuomo has been a bulldozer. you would kindly or charitably call he or his staff hard charging, uncharitably call them bullies. you make the case this all fits together. how? >> absolutely. first of all it's all about power. accrual of power, performance of power, sort of monitoring and maintenance of power hierarchies, making yourself big and others small in order to prove how powerful you are. when it comes to cuomo, looking back at his career, this is his third term, power for the sake of power, not so much ideology or policy making. and it's the politics of dominance, being able to do what you want to do, dominate others and do it with impunity, and source said the same attitude that emboldens you to harass a 22-year-old is same that allows you to scrub a nursing home report. can scream and have top aides do the same thing, say vulgar things about state senators with whom you disagree, same attitude that lets you think you can touch people inappropriately, demean them along gender lines. comment on their appearance and require they dress a certain way. it's all part of the politics of dominance and subjugation, key to understanding how he's behaved in work place and with colleagues but also when it comes to governance. >> you have two stories i want to talk about. incredible lead of someone who worked for president obama and then hillary clinton and joins cuomo, first event is roast for his number one aide melissa rosa, fairly infamous in new york, channels governor's style, will call up and yell at you. just this person i'm going to work for the governor, sees the dynamic, very bad. >> several people told me about this event. cuomo organization hired a lot of people out of the obama administration, thinking go to progressive state and work for andrew cuomo, invited to party at mansion in albany, regular staff there, doing a roast of his top aide melissa derosa, involved showing pictures of top officials, commissioners, joke is she doesn't know them, no, i don't know their name, and everyone laughing uproariously. people coming out of obama/clinton world are watching this and thinking oh, my god, this is terrible. what werthheimer said, is isn't funny, this is terrible, you're bad at your job and mean. that encompassed a lot of what i heard of governance and workplace behavior of cuomo and top aides. >> talk about red flags. finally also this story of caitlin, hired by governor after he sees her at event. track her down, hire her. not sure why or what she's supposed to do, and she watches him do this to another woman. >> yes. and she was not the only person who confirmed for me that was a habit that the governor had, would meet somebody and almost always a young woman, and meet at an event or party and reach out to them within days and offer them a job. one of the things about caitlin and the story she tells so powerfully, she did know the whole time, says from the very beginning and was terrible feeling for her. i knew this was about what i looked like. it was clear to me there was no other reason he found me and offered me the job. that is part of the politics of diminution, many women who worked for him told me they were knowing that it was not about political contributions but had the jobs they had in part because of how they looked. that's a form of discrimination that is power abuse whether or not it involves groping which other women said it did. >> people should read the piece. pattern described short of the allegations is stomach turning in my opinion. rebecca traister, the great rebecca traister, whose piece i willed into being through twitter. >> it was all you. >> thank you rebecca. >> thanks, chris. still ahead, as americans are getting vaccinated in record numbers, doctors are still trying to understand the covid long haulers. what recovery looks like for one woman who spent a month on a ventilator. next. next ♪there are so many more, that never found their fame.♪ ♪and some might seem bizarre to you,♪ ♪and some are only for a few...♪ ♪but many are small businesses that simply lack the tool♪ ♪to find excited people who will stop and say 'that's cool'♪ ♪there's an idea for everyone♪ ♪and you'll love yours, she'll love hers too♪ ♪these two get served up coffee, 'cause they adore the brew♪ ♪if you're the type who needs to cruise,♪ ♪or likes your bags in vivid hues,♪ ♪behold, it's there.♪ ♪these bikers got some new headwear.♪ ♪small businesses and people - make connections so profound♪ ♪and all 'cause personalized ads help good ideas get found.♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ when it comes to your financial health, just a few small steps can make a real difference. ♪ ♪ ♪ learn, save and spend with guidance from chase. confidence feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. are you packed yet? 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>> so surreal, like one of those movies, "outbreak." >> reporter: rescue team members at harbor view medical center unofficial guinea pigs. boosting oxygen levels and treating ravaged lungs of patients. >> we were surprised how quickly patients turned the corner the wrong way. >> on high levels of oxygens, sounded clear and looked okay but then rapidly had to intubate them and put on life support. >> reporter: at beginning often were immediately put on ventilators, now approach is not so fast. first look for noninvasive ways to boost oxygen, including medications. and if ventilator is necessary, proning is key, intermittent turning of patient from back to belly to improve oxygen levels. >> sooner you prone them, better chance getting off the ventilator and mortality improves. >> helps them open up airway and expand lungs more. proning them sooner and serene. >> reporter: teams have gotten faster. >> was 50 minutes, now 15 to 25 minutes. >> devised way to do it quickly. like anything, practice is perfect. >> reporter: then the heartbreaking lessons respiratory teams have learned past months. >> we're the ones holding hands, taking them off the breathing machines while their family is crying through zoom. it's very emotionally challenging. >> feel like we put a lot more bodies in body bags this past year than probably ever have in my career. didn't think would get used to something like that, but after a while you show up and realize that's routine. >> reporter: hundreds of covid patients later, staffers are drained but hopeful. are we better at caring for patients than we were at beginning? >> much better. we're better at recognizing the signs of deterioration of patients and to catch that at critical time when we can intervene. i think our therapies are made a big difference, and i think knowing that the vaccine is out there really helps us look to the future of getting somewhere back to normal. >> nbc news medical contributor dr. vin gupta joins me now. that was really great piece. i remember a year ago, just a little under a year ago, doing a number of pieces on the confounding way doctors felt like this disease was not responding to treatment, that they were blind, didn't have protocol, were flummoxed and feeling overmatched. tell me about the process by which we've gotten to much better treatment protocol. >> good evening, chris, thanks for having me. it's been trial by fire, really, as pull monologist, also took care of patients, i will say that one thing that's been unique about this pandemic, you might see a press release on a steroid that might be effective in critical ill patients based on great work of our colleagues in united kingdom, and later that evening be trialing it on a patient in the intensive care unit. never been press release to bedside intervention as in this pandemic. intensive care medicine, much as we as providers want to control what is inherently uncertain, there's only so much you can control. by definition undefined and even worse in era of covid. >> one of the doctors talked about emotional toll, never put so many bodies in body bags. i remember interview i had with er doc, said aren't you used to this? you work in medicine. he said we're not used to scale of losing patients. really not. this is not what we're used to. this has been a trauma for everyone. what have you gotten from doctors about how they have processed this at that level? >> you know, i would say all of us, especially certainly the staff i interviewed at harbor view but on behalf of my colleagues i've spoken to across the country, there is shock, shock this could have happened in first place. you see hollywood films like "contagion" and others about what might be possible, feared this might be possible but see this happen, 3,000 fellow health care workers die from the virus and recognize even to this day there's no magic bullet to give a patient on ventilator to get them off. it's really just tincture of time and care. from the respiratory teams and icu nurses in the room constantly, one ingredient we need is trained health care providers, is in short supply. worries us about the future, next pandemic, another threat down the road. >> the proning discovery, and the integrating that into care is fascinating to me. talking about complicated machinery like ventilators or cocktails of drug intervention. in some level, simple thing, turn the patient over, made tremendous difference. >> it's interesting, prior to covid we would do that occasionally. been hemming and hawing about does it truly help. yes, if you do it thoroughly in severe respiratory illness, does appear to help get people off ventilators. in era of covid, i have one set of practice guidelines i follow. go to a different hospital in seattle, there's different guidelines how long to prone somebody, how many days or weeks out from when first put on the ventilator. lot of different practice guidelines, begs the question we need pragmatic clinical trials and guidance to standardize care. had many family members say we hear there's different practices and expectations based on hearing from other friends and family across the country. that lack of standardization in how we care for critically ill patients causes anxiety, especially since family members can't be at bed sd interacting with loved ones. >> how confident are you feeling about the picture of vaccination right now? >> i think may 1st going to have enough supply. take six to eight weeks to get into people's arms. so end of june, we're forecasting normalcy of hospitalizations and deaths, that's the key metric, not necessarily case numbers. but right now it's looking good, chris. >> dr. vin gupta, thanks for that great report. thanks for making time. that's "all in" on this friday night. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. good evening, rachel. >> thank you my friend, much appreciated. thanks for joining us this hour, a busy friday and friday night. new york governor andrew cuomo in water that appears to be getting deeper and hotter all the time. long investigative piece by rebecca traister in "new yorker" today, reporting on litany of women who worked for him say he's behaved inappropriately in the workplace. both democratic senators from new york, chuck schumer and kirsten gillibrand have called for cuomo t

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