january, this might not be happening at all. after a lot of democratic internal wrangling, the bill passed the senate over the weekend with exactly zero votes from the house. president biden said he would sign it as soon as he gets it, and the legislation could not be more urgently needed, as he indicated over the weekend. >> we took office 45 days ago. i promised the american people help was on the way. today i can say we've taken one more giant step forward in delivering on that promise, that help was on the way. >> today the white house said the $1400 checks included in the plan could start going out by the end of the month. make no mistake, this bill is massive. it stands to help millions and millions of americans who have been economically crippled by a near year-long pandemic. the bill spends most of the money on the american people, describing it as the most generous form of aid ever going out. more than 93% of children, 69 million, would receive benefits under the plan. the version of the bill approved by the senate isn't perfect. it changes at the income threshold. those changes were pushed in part by democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia. that could make it a tough pill to swallow by progressives in the house. even with those changes, bernie sanders called it the most significant piece of legislation to benefit working families in the modern history of this country. meanwhile, republican senators of the party that claims that it's a party of the working people but who did nothing to support the bill, or really their own constituents, said they can't address the fact that they didn't support it, are now just lying about the bill. >> this was a liberal wish list of liberal spending, just basically filled with -- >> they had a chance sunday morning to stop checks going to prisoners, and on that vote they declined. >> there are reparations for minority farmers that don't have to demonstrate any financial stress or any adverse effect from covid, but they'll get 120% of whatever indebtedness they have just paid for by the taxpayer. but not if you're a white farmer. >> yegads. reparations. clutch your pearls. so the senate is doing this cutthroat version for their former boss. but here's the thing. they're not donald trump. so the discount donalds in the insurrection process is really easy to slap down. here's dick durbin, not usually a fighting guy, giving old ted cruz the business. >> the question to answer is should taxpayer money be spent, $1400, to every illegal alien in america? this amendment provides that it should not. >> the statement from the senator of texas is just plain false. false. let me be clear. undocumented immigrants do not have social security numbers, and they do not qualify for stimulus relief checks, period! >> oops. for more i'm joined by angelo rye and charlie sykes. these people are throwing out statements that you can fast check on twitter. they both voted for the previous version, the cares act, which also allows people in prison to get checks. these are all just extensions of the same stuff, they're just adding more money. i wonder if the benefit they get by saying those words and having that repeated on social media and on conservative media, is that enough to justify being able to be so easily fact-checked, including maybe in ads? >> you know, joy, i would love to understand what makes these people get on the senate floor, for some of the how else floor, too, go on the house floor and just blatantly lie to the american people for a few pats on the back by randoms who don't have any allegiance to facts whatsoever. i think what's so interesting is, in ted cruz's remarks, he talks about undocumented folks getting stimulus checks but he must not know the process, and perhaps, joy, it goes back to the very idea of cancun. you know, he's so out of touch that he doesn't realize you actually have to have a social security number to get a stimulus check. let's just start there. and i think to your point, it can be easily fact-checked on twitter, but most importantly, what i would love to see is someone with a moral fiber, some type of conscience representing the american people in those bogus claims for the right. >> they're also not going to get a pat on the back from the boss. the person they want to cuddle them in florida is not going to cuddle them, because he does not care about the republican party. the people in the party who you would think want to stand and fight for it are like, i would rather quit. i'd rather get out of the senate and retire than stay and try to fight for the integrity of my party. the party is being left for the ted cruzes and the tom cottons. toomey is like, i got my tax cut, i'm rich, i'm out. richard burr, i'm out, rob portman, roy blunt. they're not fighting for the republican party. they're just like, let the trumpies have it. are we basically going to have john birch society 2.0? >> you'll get more republican senate if the democrats don't pick up those seats. the old school senators came there to legislate, to debate, to legislate, to compromise. what you're seeing now is basically the senate republicans have dominated people who want the sound bite. why does ted cruz say the things that he says, because he knows that's going to be played on fox news. that is the -- that's the mean, that's the narrative that's going to play in conservative media and the fact check won't catch up with the fact that he's waving that bloody shirt. it is trump 2.0. you have that $1.9 trillion piece of legislation and they're focusing on the bogus the aliens will get it. one big question, how is this going to be different than 2009? republicans just think that by voting no that they're going to be able to run against this big spending package and have big wins in the midterm election. i think the big difference is, number one, joe biden knows he's got to sell it, he's got to be out there aggressively explaining what's in the package. and number two, unlike, say, obamacare, the benefits are going to be showing up in people's bank accounts within the next few weeks. they're not going to have to wait until after the election to see what's in this bill. so i think that this is a very different political situation, and yet the ted cruzes of the world keep pretending it's 2009 all over again. >> well, you know, and angela, people like marcia gessin have been talking about the republican party is developing into this cryptofascist entity that everything the ruling party is doing is bad, bad, bad, we're going to rule against it, and the idea is to degrade people's trust in government at all and their faith in government at all. i wonder, for the democrats, if they're looking at a midterm where republicans are just going to be screaming about undocumented people and trying to do the brown scare and the black scare again, that criminals are getting in, and you know what i mean by criminals, right? they're going to pretend the bill doesn't exist as the check in your hand. i wonder if you feel like democrats are ready for that. not even all the democrats could agree on $15 an hour. they couldn't even get their own people to pass perhaps the most powerful thing that would reduce poverty, which would be $15 an hour. they couldn't even get that to happen. so i sense if democrats are ready for what they're about to face. >> joy, it's such a profound point, and we talk about this often, both privately and publicly, about the idea of a big tent and what it means, the types of compromises that you have to reach. there are some things that should just be based on a moral compass. and you would think, right, that republicans would be in lockstep with trying to really provide the american people relief. but as you just said, you know, when we started the show, you have pat toomey on, you list him as a republican who is ready to retire, but this is somebody who just was talking about black farmers receiving reparations as if he's never heard of the pickford settlement, right? there are things that make sense to make sure that people are finally made whole, and who cares if it's as a result of a pandemic or as a result of another black man or woman being killed by the police, or if it's because economically people are suffering. we just need to do the right thing. to the point, if democrats can't find the courage, and if republicans can't find the courage to reach across the aisle and do the right thing because people are suffering, i think it's more than bipartisanship that is in harm's way. it is literally the very livelihood of so many americans that don't care who was the reason that got things across the finish line. but i will tell you, thank god for warnock and jon ossoff who knew this particular measure around black farmers needed to go, cory booker, because when joe manchin is in the way of another joe biden, at least those two are there. thank god for special elections. >> amen. the funny thing about it, though, charlie, i don't think that these republicans think they understand trump the way they think they do, right? they were saying, trump has some bad parts but they run the party. he was the checks guy. he wasn't the tell me how i can justify you checks guy, he sent farmers checks sight unseen. you're a farmer? you want some money. here's some money, vote for me. you want money in the stimulus? take all the money. he understood that checks are good politics. donald trump wasn't about fiscal responsibility, he was like spend all the money. send it to the airlines, send it to people who have cruise ships, send everybody the money, to buy their votes. they think they're doing trumpism, but they're not. >> they don't quite get that. remember when donald trump was trying to push for the $2,000 check right before the election and didn't get anywhere with that. i always think it's interesting, you've got republicans in the room saying, you keep talking about socialism. define socialism and when donald trump was sending all the checks to the farmers, does that qualify as socialism? i would like a definition. you mentioned that interview with lindsey graham where he's talking about the magic of donald trump, and he says he's a combination of jesse helms, ronald reagan and p.t. barnum, which was a weird thing to say because jesse helms had actually tried to filibuster the martin luther king jr. holiday, p.k. -- p.t. barnum was a bah, humbug. you're comparing trump to a bigot of politics, a circus ringleader and ronald reagan. and yet somehow what lindsey graham thinks, there is some magic in all of that? no, i don't think he quite gets it. >> or he does get it. and he was being accurate. >> maybe he was. i was actually surprised he didn't mention george wallace at a certain point. >> if he probably at the last second said, let me leave out wallace so donald trump doesn't figure out what i'm saying because he's blinking through the tv. he knows exactly what he's saying. he's a southern senator. >> but why does he think it's magic? >> i'm telling you, i think he knew exactly what he was saying. i think angela agrees with me. angela rye, charlie sykes, thank you so much. the george floyd murder trial. george floyd's brother joins me on the fight for justice. plus, ted cruz is now an outcast at his own alma mater. he was stripped of his public service award because of his failure to overturn the election. there is an uproar over documented immigrants getting covid relief checks. believe it or not, we found someone worse! i have a lot to say about meghan and harry's interview with oprah. 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what did it say? joining me now is george floyd's brother, and ben crump, attorney for the floyd family. thank you both for being here. mr. floyd, i want to ask you about that, the way this jury selection is going to proceed. what do you make of the fact they are trying to identify, or at least weed out, people who protested the death of your brother? >> basically, i really just think it's ridiculous because i think that everybody should have the opportunity to speak up on what they believe in, but i understand the process of elimination, so it's their job to do what they need to do, and it's my job to do what i have to do and also my team. >> and, ben, we've been through this. i don't even want to count them at this point. we've been doing this since 2006 when i first met you on these kinds of cases. i am very cynical at this point as to whether the criminal justice system is even prepared to deal with these kinds of situations, but i want to get your take. you now have this third-degree murder charge taken off because generally third-degree murder has been about you spray bullets everywhere in the crowd and someone gets hurt or you do something that basically could result in death but endangers lots of people and one person died. so that was taken off. do you think that's a good thing, or do you think that taking any charges off the table makes it such a narrow lane to go down for conviction that it makes conviction less likely? >> you know, joy, i am of the opinion, like you, it is very difficult to have a police convicted for killing an unarmed black person in america. we saw any number of cases where they did not hold them accountable. that's why i agree with attorney general keith ellison, the first african-american attorney general in the state of minnesota. no, we want to make sure we have every charge possible presented to the jury to make sure that derek chauvin is held criminally liable for killing george floyd. just like they do in our community, joy. you know, they threw the whole book at us. they have every charge included there so if the jury thinks it's something else, we get convicted on that. we don't want anything different than if the roles had been reversed and george floyd had done this to derek chauvin. how many charges do you think they would have had on george? >> having been on a grand jury, they would charge him with about ten things to make sure you get him on something. philonise, is the family prepared for a black man who killed a man or child and then just walked away? it's like if they walked up to a child and shot him. that couldn't end up in a conviction. the odds are so low that he will be convicted. is the family emotionally prepared for that outcome, or do you believe a conviction is possible? >> i believe that a conviction is possible. we want justice just like everybody else who was marching out in the streets, because just look at the video. if you look at the video, you can see that was wrong. it was a modern day lynching in broad daylight. he had his knee on my brother's back for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. nobody tried to render aid. an emt worker tried and they pushed him back, like, no. it's like he intended to do that. and my brother lay there with his face down in a prone position, blood dripping out of his nose and he was saying that he couldn't breathe. and the officer didn't care. nobody cared. it was a tragedy that we shouldn't have had, and that's the reason that this is a global movement and people are marching all around the world, because we don't want this to happen anymore. we're tired of seeing the same thing. >> i want to ask you both, because there is a law that's named after your brother, mr. floyd. it's called the george floyd justice and policing act. only one republican voted for it in the house by mistake and then took it back and said, oops, i accidentally pushed yes when i meant no, so no republican supports it. it has a tough road to go in the senate. do you support it? because there is another version of this bill that would cut police funding way down, if not totally. this bill does ban the chokehold. it overhauls qualified immunity and it does other things i've seen you say in interviews. do you support the bill as it is, the george floyd act? >> yes, i support the george floyd act. it's something that we needed in this nation. it has been a civil rights movement all the way back. you can see in the 1950s and 1960s, everybody was trying to prevent what happened to my brother, because dr. king said it a long time ago. he had a dream that all men and women, boys and girls, could join hands together around this world. when my brother was killed, it started happening. you see people walking in the streets, holding hands, no matter what race, caucasian, african-american, chinese, asian, everybody was all during the covid pandemic and people were risking their life for what was right. that touched me. and the protesters that did that, hey, they ought to be having their faces on mt. rushmore and things like that, because they did what they had to do. they got out and they participated in something that we should have ignored a long time ago. change is now. >> indeed. i don't think anybody can argue about that. ben, it's already starting. we've seen this act before. the reports they're putting out that, well, there were drugs found in the car, trying to sort of bring up other reasons, other sort of excuses for what happened to george floyd. and what looks like an attempt to attack his character. what can be done about that? is that something that can be kept out of this trial? >> unfortunately, joy, they are given some latitude to talk about anything that may have contributed to the death of george floyd. but we have to remember two things, joy. george floyd was walking, talking, breathing just fine until derek chauvin put his knee on his ne