And new trouble for old doctor turned congressman. How does a guy who eats mcdonalds and fries and all those diet cokes and never exercises is in as good a shape as hes in. Its called genetics. I dont know. All in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. With the house passing President Bidens 1. 9 Trillion Covid Relief Bill last week its in the hands of the senate. Were expecting a vote at the end of this week hopefully. Were seeing some developments today. Its not really developing in a great way today. Today President Biden agreed to narrow who was eligible for the next round of 1,400 Stimulus Payments after pressure from moderate democrats like West Virginias joe manshin and new hampshires jean shaheen. Fewer people will get Stimulus Checks because of the intervention of these two democratic senators. This is joe bidens Approval Rating right now. He is 15 points above water, pretty good. 53 approval. Donald trump not got close to that. In fact he never broke 50 approval. New poll today shows bidens rescue bill is still unbelievably popular with 77 of all voters and 59 of republicans who said they supported the measure. When provided the partisan framing along with the details of proposal, 71 of voters including 53 of republicans still supported it. People like this bill. They love it. And they dont care who is responsible for it. One study shows bidens Rescue Package might be the most popular president ial action since 2007. There it is, all by itself all the way over there on the right side of that chart. A big part of the reason joe biden was elected, of course, was to finally crush covid. And, thanks to his administration, a lot of the covid outlook, especially vaccinations, is looking good. Its moving in the right direction. Of course, theres the issue of whether governors are going to mess it up by opening all the businesses and removing the mask mandate way too early, something President Biden took issue with today. I hope everybody has realized by now, these masks make a difference. We are on the cusp of being able to fundamentally change the nature of this disease because of the way in which were able to get vaccines in peoples arms of the weve been able to move that all the way up to the end of may to have enough for every american to get every adult american to get a shot. And the last thing, the last thing we need is neanderthal thinking that in the meantime everything is fine, take off your mask. Forget it. It still matters. As President Biden pointed out, the public is on his side, even son stuff like the importance of masks. Theyre on his side on masks. He has a good Approval Rating. He has this bill that is really, really popular. Its the kind of popularity you live for if youre a politician. Its fun to do stuff thats popular. Thats what youre in the business of, right . Okay. Another dynamic that is playing into bidens hands is that fox news programming is going all in on the culture wars instead of the biden agenda. Who gets appalled at a furry little doll . Tornado is always looking for its next victim and now its the muppets. It is outrageous and appalling. Do you think well have a Muppets Commission to look at this . Would it be bipartisan . I love the muppets. I dont care if they told the jokes in front of a Confederate Flag or burning shirt. It was funny. Now the toy world. A case of cross wires or Major Corporate uturn when news broke that hasbro was losing the mister from mr. Potato head. If i wanted to buy one and i had the boy at home and i wanted the girl. And the money. The box is going to say potato head. Mr. And mrs. Potato head, because its the end of an era. It is the end of freedom in america. The hits keep coming. More cancellations may be ahead for dr. Seuss. Following last weeks debacle with mr. And mrs. Potato head going gender neutral. I havent gotten past the assassination of mr. Potato head. That one i still havent gotten past and now theyre trying to take out dr. Seuss . Come on, john. These are the icons i grew up with. Cancel dr. Seuss isnt stupid. Its intentional. Theyre banning dr. Seuss not because he was a racist, but precisely because he wasnt. I was going to go to the gym after this hit but i dont have to now. Im already fired up. That aabsurd. Youre telling me that the actual priorities of the democrats is renaming a post office and now canceling dr. Seuss . This week alone they canceled mr. Potato head. Thats right. Thats right. This week alone they canceled the muppets. You know, theyre canceling dr. Seuss from reading programs. These are books i literally know the cat in the hat by heart without the book there because i read it so many times to my children. These things are not racist. You have Oreo Cookie Chiming in on trans rights. Okay. You guys keep talking about the nonexistent genitals of a plastic potato. The president can go about his business without the usual flack from the farright media. The public understands this bill will help a lot of people who really need it. All of this said, why on earth would you take steps to make it less effective and less popular . And yet today that is exactly what Senate Democrats were insisting on. Washington post described them as this way. Under the plan, individuals earning up to 75,000 per year and couples making up to 150,000 a year would qualify for the full 1,400 payment. The size of the payments would then begin to scale down before zeroing out for individuals making 100,000 per year and couples making 200,000. Under the changes agreed to by the biden and Senate Democratic leadership, couples making up to 150,000 a year would still receive the full 1,400 payment, however the benefit would disappear for individuals earning more than 80,000 annually and couples earning more than 160,000. Around 12 million fewer adults and 5 million fewer kids would get the Stimulus Payments under the new biden senate compromise, according to preliminary estimates. A lot of those adults are voters who will now get less in direct Cash Assistance from President Biden than they did from donald trump. Why would democratic senators, like joe manchin, and Jean Shaheen Push for this to happen . Cut joe manchin a ton of slack. The guy got reelected in West Virginia, trumpiest state in the union. Explain this one to me. Its not like theres some obvious lobbyist reason. Big donors dont want this to happen. Theres not a political reason. This isnt a fraught issue like abortion or guns. Theres no group out there that are single mindedly focused on making sure that people who make 80,000 a year dont get a check during a pandemic. Who cares . Whos opposing that . On top of that, on top of all of this, keep in mind that the big gains that were made with College Educated voters in metropolitan areas, particularly suburbs, a lot of those people are making the amount that are now going to get shut out of Stimulus Checks. There is nothing more than a reflexive, almost neurotic, compulsive desire to signal moderation by making things worse both substantively and what on earth are you thinking . Board chair of the Color Of Change and author of the sum of us. Reporter from the atlantic. Both join me now. Heather, progressives are going to be mad at manchin on all types of things. His calculus for West Virginia is different than a Safe Seat Member of the house, right . But this one, the politics of this, someone somewhere is going to get some check they dont deserve, i dont get it. Its really baffling. I mean, i think what it comes down to, and well probably hear more about this in the next 24 hours, is that theres something that needs to be done here in order to get this through the caps per committee for the absolutely archean, totally counterproductive senate rules we have. Right. Thats where it becomes clear that this Governing Majority is really hostile to the senate rules. Now, this is bad politics. Its not great stimulus. What we really need is cash out the door, as much as possible. You cant tell me that people making that amount of money are not going to spend it right away or that it wont go to pay down debt. This is not actually an Economic Policy justification. It is exactly, as you said, kneejerk moderation, the desire to get something out of it. And the fact that, for whatever reason, joe manchin and maybe shaeen, well hear maybe who else was behind this, want to feel like they are exacting some kind of concessions. Right. For what is a bill thats popular for republicans and americans who are worried about the size of it are worried that its too small. Yeah. Weve had polling on this. This will save maybe tens of billions of dollars off a 1. 9 trillion bill . Exactly. On the other side, i am fascinated by the right right now and the way in which canceling dr. Seuss, be potato head and whoever has become a heat sink for rage that otherwise would be channeled in far more instructive direction. From my perspective, they could be railing against the socialist stimulus all day or railing as dr. Seuss, the people who want to have at it, with the dr. Seuss and mr. Potato head. What do you make of that . What do you make of the detachment from politics we have seen here . Well, i think a few Different Things are happening in the Republican Party right now. One is that the trump era left the Republican Party so kind of ideologically confused yes. That the only thing that unites conservatives anymore are these kind of Culture War Grievance issues, right . These kind of madeforcable news, madefortwitter skirmishes that dont have really anything about the big debates about size of government and deficit spending. The second thing thats happening is, as you mentioned, the covid relief bill is very popular. People are hurting. The crisis is ongoing. I think republican politicians in general understand that it would not be popular to go Out On A Limb to try to attack it. But the th third is the thing thats most interesting. And i dont want to make any predictions here. I just want to keep an eye on it. The kind of shift away from paul ryanism from this kind of small government deficit obsessed Austerity Politics, a lot of people, including myself, thought that might just be an aberration, something that only existed during the trump era, because they wanted to let their president spend all the money he wanted to. Im wondering if that shift might be more permanent than we think. Thats something i want to keep an eye on. I think thats a great point. Heather, what do you want to say . Yeah, i do think these two things are more connected than they seem. In my book the sum of us, culture wars, dr. Seuss. A move away from white male dominance, power and the economy, signaling a threat for the zero sum world view that makes white voters reflexively become more conservative. Thats the only play theyve got left. And so it seems silly, but what theyre doing is saying theyre coming for you. Theyre coming for your culture. The they in this is democrats, even though they had nothing to do with the sues desire to stop selling these books with racist imagery in them. Theyve got power and theyre coming for you and your way of life. They know reflexively makes white voters more conservative and more conservative on fiscal. I dont think youve seen the last. I totally agree but one of the things were seeing is that they cant get the blood up in their people about joe biden the way they could about barack obama. Like were seeing that. And the question is, why do you think that is . Why is it harder to get their blood up . Why do you have to go i think race has a lot to do with it. I think were seeing, in some ways, the fact that they are not attacking joe biden in the same way because it is not generating the level of visceral angst in their audience, everything that barack obama did to their audience. One of my favorite details that came out on the reporting of cpac was from the Washington Post where he was interviewing one of the people who sold this merch to conservative cpac goers and said all the obama and clinton stuff was still selling well but the biden stuff they just couldnt move. There you go. They couldnt get the antibiden tshirts and pins to sell. I think my colleague adam is your wrote at the atlantic last year that the republicans never really figured out how to make their message resonate when they were going up against a white man, right . And that was kind of that was joe bidens superpower in a lot of ways. For better or worse, it worked. But i do think these broader issues were talking about are still at play. Theres also, heather, on the core questions of political economy. I totally agree about people getting reflexively worried that someone else is getting something im not. To mckays point, how ron johnson did a thing like if you stack up a trillion dollars how tall it is. There is this reflexive Austerity Politics but it doesnt seem to have the teeth this time around and i think you see in the polling. What do you think about that . I think its a couple of things. One, for a long time, white Republican Voters have been more progressive on many bread and butter Economic Issues than the party that racial politics keeps forcing them to throw into power. Right. Tangible cost of racism to white voters who would like a higher minimum wage, stronger ooh unions, higher taxes on the wealthy but when faced with the choice in their minds of voting with their race or class, theyve voted with their class race every single time. It is clare to the american people, 50 years into the inequality area, black, white and brown, that the formula is not working. Right. And broadly shared economic pain means people want more from their government. The drained pool is no longer working for anybody. People should read your book, which is excellent on this. The degree to which, mckay, you said this, the degree to which republicans are wrongfooted on central questions of the political economy is fascinating to me. Marco rubio speaks up not to attack the deficit but basically attack them for cutting the checks. Its not anywhere near rich in most American Cities and phasing out the 1,400 checks, noncovid related pork is where Senate Democrats got the money. Your money is is going somewhere else. But the key here is the people watching fox and people voting for marco rubio are going to get the checks and want the checks. Like thats the core thing. That was what i found so interesting about that marco rubio tweet. Also when you watch conservative tv, conservative media these past couple of weeks, the only republican criticism gaining traction on the right right now is the idea that this bill is a blue state bailout. Essentially the money sk unfairly directed toward blue states for whatever, they have this whole argument. Basically what i find so interesting about it, republicans are basically saying we want that money. Theyre not even saying this money shouldnt be alotted. Were not saying this money shouldnt be spent. If this was 2010, that would be where the argument was. Instead theyre saying give the money to our voters. Give them to our states. Heather mcghee, mckay coppins, thank you both. One of the biggest questions still unanswered about the january 6th attack is why it took so long for reinforcements to show up. Today, we heard damning new testimony from the chief of the d. C. National guard in which he said he was blocked from sending troops in, even as rioters were storming the capitol and assaulting police officers. His testimony is next. Ting polis his testimony is next. Introducing voltaren arthritis pain gel. The first full prescription strength nonsteroidal antiinflammatory gel. 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According to commander walker, before the capitol had been breached. General walker says he immediately notified the army and had the guard all ready to go, but, but, but the army didnt actually approve sending in the guard until 5 08 p. M. , over three hours later. I thought the delay was unusual. Yes. And so we were already in support of the metropolitan Police Department and when the metropolitan Police Department left the Traffic Control points, what i wanted to do was take those guardsmen and move them to the capitol immediately. Once the guard finally got approval it took them less than 20 minutes to reach the capitol and help push the mob out of the building. One of the senators who conducted that hearing today joins me now. Do you feel like you have clarity now on the timeline and or the source of the delay . Well, i want to thank you for having me on today. I will tell you, i do not feel like we have clarity. What i really feel that we have is a breakdown. Metropolitan Police Department, National Guard and Capitol Police. We knew there were threats. This isnt the first time these groups have come to washington and there seemed to be maybe not a breakdown of information but how they communicated to each other and how they let us know about the events, and we surely were not prepared. We cant let this happen again. We have to do an investigation because lives were lost. One other thing, two points of general walkers testimony that stood out to me. One is the delay that he says he got in moving the National Guard. The other was that he said that often it will be the case that in a planned demonstration in this sort of part of d. C. , there will be a Quick Reaction force that will be ready to come in, if there is civil unrest. You dont want to intimidate people expressing their First Amendment rights but keep that Quick Reaction force there in case things go sideways. He says that was blocked ahead of he asked for such a force and that was blocked ahead of this protest on january 6th. Is that your understanding . And do we understand why . I think thats why theyre still doing the investigation, because we have to understand exactly what happened, exactly the timeline, why and how, because this shouldnt be political. I dont want to go back and litigate what happened in the last administration, but we have to learn from it and we have to plan and prepare for the future. Like i said, lives were lost. There are lives forever changed here. The Capitol Police who protect us, those men and women every day, some with permanent scars, physical scars, one lost an eye. Others have all kinds of things that have happened to them. And, of course, the scars you dont see when they come back here, suffering from ptsd. They called for help and no one came. No one came. The rest of us barricaded in our offices. The Vice President barricaded in an office. No one came. We cant let this happen again. Okay. But not letting it happen again is connected to finding out what happened. I mean yes. I guess the answer is, we dont know the answer why no one came, right . Correct. That is still not established, i guess, is what im hearing from you. Its not established. Were going to continue to press them and press them until we get the complete timeline of events leading up to the 6th and on the 6th. Then when we have all of that, we can move forward, figuring out what to do with problems that happened before and certainly never letting them repeat again. In terms of repeating again, there has been some reporting about threats and communication of threats for march 4th which, of course, is tomorrow. Its always hard to know how seriously we should take these. Of course, theres lots of chatter in lots of different places. That said, Capitol Police is now increasing security on the threat. Its aware of and prepared for any potential threats towards members of congress and the capitol complex. We obtained intelligence of a plot to breach the capitol on march 4th by a militia group. In fact, the house sped up their Voting Process to get out of that building. What do you make of all of this . I can tell you, im glad were being proactive. What we have to realize is that theres always chatter on the internet and the threat assessments must be complete. They must be robust. And im glad were moving forward on this one. With that being said, we also cant live in fear. So we have to come to work. Tomorrow im going to come to work. We have a covid bill to pass. I have families in need of relief at home. We have vaccines to get out. I have schools to open. We have so many things, those direct Stimulus Payments. People call my office, theyre in distress every day. People think of nevada as the Las Vegas Strip but 90 of our businesses are Small Businesses supported by our tourism and hospitality industry. So im going to come to work tomorrow. I feel safe that the Capitol Police, the National Guard are still here. Theyre taking this seriously, and im going to do the job that everybody sent me here to do to take care of the folks back at home who are hurting, and they need the relief till we get covid in the rear view mirror, beginning to put that behind us and move forward. Particularly important for the economic engine of the state that you represent. Yes. Senator jacky rosen of nevada, thank you so much for taking time tonight. Thank you so much for having me. Coming up, what does it say about our Health Care System that as Vaccination Rates go up, it falls to the military to help distribute and even administer the shots . Well talk about that next. The . Well talk about that next if you ask suzie about the future, shell say shes got goals. 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Now almost 16 years later, admist the longest period of war in our history, here we are in a war because in a way the Biden Administration is treating the pandemic like a natural disaster. After signing executive order, giving states money and Operational Support for National Guard deployments, there are now over 400 federally supported Vaccination Centers across the states and territories. Solution is part of the problem. Meaning why do we have to depend on american troops to put shots in arms . Arguing in a great piece, the military is State Building in the u. S. After the nation gradually over a generation toppled its own government. Staff writer at The New Republic joins me now. Alex, i dont know if youve heard from people who have gone through these centers. I have talked to a bunch of them and theyre sort of in awe of marveling at the logistical precision and how great these centers are, that are run by active duty National Guard t seems to be working. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. And, you know moorks my piece is a critique of how we got to this point and not a critique of how the military is doing its job. And i know here in in brooklyn, new york, to the college, a 20minute walk for me, the National Guard is operating that site fantastically. I would compare it to the difficulty that we had there would be long, slow lines to get coronavirus tests early in the pandemic. And compared to that, im hearing nothing but rave reviews about how efficient things are going over here at medgar evers. Im hearing the same but it points to what you talk about in the piece, like why is american capacity in areas other than the military not that good . Yeah. But is good in the military . What do you chalk that up to . I mean, we have never disinvested in the military. We have not theres been no comparable disinvestment in the capacity of the military to carry out missions and operations of all kinds that there has been in all of these other elements of our government, right . You know, the Reagan Administration did not go after military spending. No administration really does. We have always believed, the government especially has always believed that we want the military to be capable of doing anything, so we need to spend a lot of money on it. We havent applied that same thinking to our Health Care Infrastructure, our transportation, or all these other things. In some ways, the first year of the pandemic revealed, right, how underprepared and underfunded the American Health structure was. There were other countries, thinking of south korea, particularly, that had a Public Health system that was waiting to be mobilized for just this kind of outcome, and we just never really did. Absolutely. And i make this point in the piece i wrote, but the National Guard is and i think active duty, Nonactive Tut are helping with Vaccination Sites elsewhere in the country. We are having a fairly good Vaccination Campaign thanks to the military. Other countries that are having great Vaccine Campaigns didnt need the military to do it. They had the Health Care Infrastructure to do it. Israel has been lauded for their Vaccination Effort for israeli citizens. They had their Health Care System do it. The same thing is true in the uk, which has outdone the rest of europe. They had the national Health System do t its really here in the u. S. Where basically joe biden came in and said this is a big problem. Whats the arm of the government we have that can solve big problems . You look at the laundry list and its like, military, National Guard, armed forces. Where else are you going to look . Theres another aspect to this, too. Weve got a weird thing between what the federal can do and how it can spend money in times of distress and crisis and what states can do. We saw this during the last big crisis and we may see it now, that states have to balance their budget by law. They tend to during periods of Crisis Disinvest and cut. They cut firefighters, teachers, Public Health workers, sanitation and all those things. The federal government can borrow at essentially almost zero interest and run huge deficits, so you sort of rely on this federal capacity in these times of crisis because thats the place that you can escape the logic of Austerity Politics. Absolutely. And i think that you make a very important point about a lot of federal spending. I also think that i remember and i note this in the piece. I remember it, and you probably do, too. Months and months ago when andrew cuomo was complaining about how dirty new york was getting. And he said it seemed like a joke, but he said ill send the National Guard in to clean up new york city. No one is picking up the trash. Ill send in the National Guard and i thought if we just had department of Sanitation Cuts here in the city because of austerity hitting immediately when the coronavirus hit the tax revenue of new york city, why not . Because if you have an army at your disposal that is not have to follow the same budgetary rules as the department of sanitation, then sure, it doesnt really make sense, but have them pick up the trash. Youre absolutely right. And there actually is the case, too, that there have been efforts to get a sort of emergency Public Health force in action. That was in the original Affordable Care act but congress didnt fund it correctly. So there have been ideas along these lines but it seems obvious, especially after this past year, it seems like a no brainer. One of the big lerchs here is like we dont think about broad scale mobilizationacy thing to think about or plan for or have a facility to do. If this year has taught us anything, its how important that is. Alex pareen, thank you so much for making time. Of course. Thank you. Coming up, remember Ronny Jackson, trumps former doctor turned now texas congressman . 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He never released his full medical records in office and was so eager to keep his medical history private his former doctor, who declared donald trump would be the healthiest president of the United States in history later said trumps goons raided his office and took away his medical records. When we got into office, we were treated to the surreal Ronny Jackson who tried to have us believe that trump was just in incredible health. You get these 14, 16 hours days and out of everybody there, the president had more stamina and more energy than just about everybody there. Can you explain to me how a guy who eats mcdonalds and all those diet cokes and never exercises is in as good a shape as you say hes in . Its called genetics. I dont know. Some people have great genes. I told the president if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years he might live to be 00 years old, i dont know. He has incredible genes, i just assume. 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Might think it spells political doom for republicans but they have easier route back to the majority than pursuing popular policies and winning over voters. With the state governments republicans control, they can gery mander themselves in power. Situation in florida. Current map of congressional districts in state. 16 held by republicans, 11 by democrats. Based on the census results, poised to gain two new safe republican seats. But Republicanled Legislature could be more aggressive than that with the support of the right leaning supreme court, could redraw the districts to net themselves eight seats, costing democrats nearly entire majority in the house just from florida. And there are multiple other states they can do the same thing. In that case, why worry about democratic accountability or being popular . What can be done . There is a piece of legislation expected to pass the house tonight called the for the people act. Would require states to create nonpartisan independent commissions to redraw the district lines every ten years. One of the most urgent pieces of legislation to prevent republicans from bootstrapping their way to minority rule. Democrat adam schiff joins me now. I believe this vote is going to happen tonight, i hear a lot of democratic politicians talking about this in urgent tones. Why . I share that sense of urgency, because if we dont address this effort to disenfranchise people by enactment of various laws at state level, now over 150 new proposals by republican legislatures to cut people off, particularly people of color. And combine that with Jerry Mandered maps, looking at another ten years of republican rule until demographics catch up with the gerrymander. Republicans seize control and takes years for democratic changes to overcome that or need a wave election to overcome it. This is a moment, we need to get this past, reenfranchise people and do away with politicians choosing their voters instead of the other way around. Should say that gerrymandering is an old practice, we havent always had ruthless Partisan Polarization we have now, changes it. Nor the sophistication with computers to finely grain the whole thing, its on another level now. I made a causal argument in the intro that being able to gerrymander yourself into the majority takes away the responsibility to respond to the voter like the covid package, does that scan to you . No question about it. I think has been Mitch Mcconnells strategy last two decades. The Republican Party is increasingly a minority party, reflecting a smaller slice of america. Their only hope of maintaining power is disenfranchise people or draw the lines in such a craven way it doesnt allow for competition. They dont have to change policies, can continue to have background, regressive policies. Dont have to appeal to what constituents want as long as they can prohibit people from voting who wont vote for them and redraw districts or draw them such that one party really cant compete there. And this is exactly what theyre trying to do. I mean the irony here, just to slightly push back on that, right . We just had highest Turnout Election in american history. Saw states across the political spectrum due to covid expanding access to voting, had more votes cast than ever and republicans did just fine in the house. Not a death knell, they picked up a bunch of seats. I think they overstate theyre more worried of the voters than they need to be in a weird way. Im not sure its right. I understand the point youre making but they lost the senate and president ial election, and look, we overcame those hurdles. Not because they didnt try, they have been enacting voter restriction, new voter i. D. Laws and doing away with Polling Places in urban centers, whole range of things we overcame it. And theyre responding to wins in places like georgia with a raft of efforts to deter people from voting. They clearly feel that we overcame what theyve done, theyre going to have to double down on the restrictive, regressive, background looking policies. Heres the problem with all the conversations, end up in same terminus, annoyingly, procedural one. 5150 senate with Vice President harris. This bill would require getting rid of the filibuster. Will not be ten republican votes, you and i both know that. So then what . Look, i would hope we can make a case if its going to be in a one or two bills a year they will not permit a filibuster to disable the country, would take that exception those holding out against doing away with it. If not, need to find another way to use leverage we have with majority of both houses and oval office to make sure it gets done. Things the other party wants, theyre going to need to put an end to this gerrymandering and disenfranchisement. Use the power we have to perfect our democracy. End of the day voting is foundational right, right on which Everything Else hinges. Our democracy took a body blow last four years, not just because of donald trump, also because of the efforts to systemically disenfranchise people and make it impossible for them to vote. When i talk to democratic members of congress, particularly in the house, theres a sense a lot of you have of narrow window, way the Partisan Polarization is functioning and antidemocratic trends of the Republican Party radicalizing against democracy and institutions of the constitution give them advantage meaning youve got two years to save american democracy. Do you think of it that way . Well, i do think of it that way right now because if we dont address this gerrymander problem, two years from now we will be dealing with gerrymandered districts next decade. Could seal in republican rule for a decade. Minority republican rule with policies nonreflective, unpopular with the country if theyre allowed to get away with it. Its not twoyear window, its oneyear window, got to get done in time for the lines to be drawn and rules to go into effect for the next election, midterm election. I wonder how much unity of purpose there is among democrats across the ideological spectrum on that . What would you say . 100 , very strong support, why its our first bill, hr1, because its foundational. Its not end of the story. I have package of democracy reforms that address other abuses we saw last four years but theres enormously strong support for Ending Gerrymander and efforts at voter suppression. Congressman adam schiff of california. Thats all in, the Rachel Maddow show starts now, im on time for once. Ill never give anyone a hard time, im never on time. All right. All the more time to panic about what im about to say. Never begrudge you. Thanks for joining us. Where to begin tonight, like the bad old days again. Planning coverage and stories to cover and report on, Booking Reporters and guests, getting everything all set up, then kablooey, tear up rundown, start again, whole new plan and had to tear that up too. Havent had a night like that in long time but turning out to be one of those