Of the new york times. Each of the nearly 500,000 dots represents one lost life. It stretches chronologically down from the first reported to the current death toll. And those deaths come from every state. Youll see a break down for each state at the bottom of your screen. The Washington Post had another way to grasp it. Transporting 500,000 people will require a caravan of more than 9800 buses. The caravan would stretch almost 95 miles, roughly the distance from philadelphia to new york. All this began nearly one year ago when the u. S. Recorded its first known death from covid19. By may we had hit 100,000 fatalities. By december 300,000. We hit 400,000 nearly a month ago. But these deaths need not be in vain. There is reason for hope. New covid cases are declining. The death rate is slowing. And vaccination rates are up. Right now about 5. 4 of americans are fully vaccinated. Dr. Anthony fauci says that normalcy is in sight, though we have a ways to go. I think were going to have a significant degree of normality beyond what the terrible burden that all of us have been through over the last year. That as we get into the fall and the winter by the end of the year, i agree with the president completely that we will be approaching a degree of normality that may or may not be precisely the way it was in november of 2019, but it will be much, much better than what were doing right now. Lets begin this hour with dr. Vin gupta, pulmonologist and nbc news medical contributor. Dr. Vin gupta, how do you put this particular marker into context, 500,000 deaths . What does that mean to you . Good evening, joshua. You know, i think for most of us in public health, clinical a lot of that is preventable. The interventions taken now had been taken ten, 12 months ago, we would not be looking at 500,000 and this milestone lost to the country. So as we are thinking about the trajectory ahead, warmer weather is going to be good because respiratory viruses like cold, dry air. So seasonality is going to help us as we get into warmer climates. Vaccination, of course is going to help. For all your viewers out there, i beseech all of you to be vigilant. 650,000 americans could lose their life, an additional 120 to 150,000. That is not preordained, joshua. We can avoid that by being vigilant. Declining vaccination s are going up. How optimistic should we be at this point . Cautiously optimistic. Clearly the vaccines, there is great data coming out of israel. We are seeing great Observational Data out of connecticut facilities that have received the vaccine. If you get the vaccine, the highrisk populations whether in israel or in this case citing connecticut, hospitalizations go down. Deaths dramatically go down. This vaccine is going to work cautiously optimistic that the variants are not going to pose the type of fear or the fear force surge we were concerned about just a few weeks ago and that we can see an end to the pandemic hopefully by mid to late summer. I want to get to some Viewer Questions. But first with regards to the vaccines, you pointed out on twitter how all of the vaccines protect against pneumonia regardless of the variant. Elaborate on that. I think its ive heard from a lot of patients, just a lot of people sending me questions, should they get one vaccine over another . The truth is if youre looking at that slide on air, pneumonia, severe pneumonia, the type that will cause you to come into the hospital, potentially see me in the intensive care unit, that is what these vaccines prevent. We know they do a darn good job of it, joshua, regardless of the variant. Thats the key piece here. These vaccines, in addition, we hope, to minimizing transmission of the virus will save your life and keep you out of the i. C. U. I think thats important as we talk to people about why its important to get the vaccine. Lets get to a few Viewer Questions before i have to lester holt you go. Sue asks, is there data that shows any correlation to the persons reaction to the first versus the second . A friend had a reaction to the first pfizer injection and were concerned she wont agree to the second shot because of the stories shes heard of severe Adverse Reactions after the second injection. Doctor . Id say there isnt data necessarily. What i would say to this question, its important to make sure we understand what that moderate reaction was. Was it an Immediate Reaction . Was it a soreness at the Injection Site . What exactly was it . Because if it was an immediate allergic reaction, that individual may need to see an allergist to make sure they are indeed safe for the second dose. However, it sounds like this was a mild to moderate side effect that potentially might reoccur after the second dose. But i really want that individual to talk to their provider to just make sure we know what were dealing with here. But no data specifically on the question i was asked. I would also note that at least in my family, my parents have been fully vaccinated now. Had a really strong reaction to the second dose for about a day. The day after, they hopped on their harley and went to orlando. So they are just fine after having a fairly short but intense reaction. One last question. Sharon asks, im 82 and have had both shots. Im concerned that being sequestered for a year means that i am no longer immune to anything. Once were allowed to go maskless, am i prone to any disease that happens my way . Doctor . Sharon, no more so than you were before this pandemic. I would just encourage you take the flu shot. I think the behaviors weve gotten so used to, hand washing, being extra vigilant especially when youre in public, even without a mask once that time comes, those things will help. And i think now all of us, for all of Us Public Health is top of mind here. So no, especially for older individuals are no more at risk for the common cold than you were before the pandemic. But vigilance is really just supposed to be top of mind always to keep us all healthful. Dr. Gupta, appreciate you starting the hour with us. Thank very much. Sure, joshua. Please check out our vaccine from our parent company, comcast nbc universal. Plan your vaccine has everything you need to know about getting vaccinated, including if you have highrisk Health Conditions or if youre an essential worker. Youll find it online at planyourvaccine. Com. The death toll from covid adds more urgency to the push for relief. This week House Democrats plan to vote on President Bidens 1. 9 trillion stimulus package. This morning we heard some of the arguments for it and against it. You dont have to be a good pollster from washington to ask the question, hey, would you like the federal government to send you a 3500 check . Of course the answer is going to be yes. If you said, do you want us to borrow that money from your children . Because thats what this is. I think their answer might be a lot differently. If republicans could give 2 trillion tax break to the wealthiest people and stop Arctic Drilling or continue drilling in the arctic, then i think that democrats can make sure that 30 million americans get a raise. Lets continue now with congresswoman Carolyn Maloney of new york. She chairs the House Oversight committee. Her district spans manhattan, queens, and brooklyn. Congresswoman maloney, good evening. Good evening, joshua. Let me ask you about the prospects for this bill. President biden had said he wants bipartisan support on this. He was asked about how much flexibility there might be to make cuts or to lower the price tag in order to maybe gain some more republican support. Heres part of what he said. Now, critics say my plan is too big. That it costs 1. 9 trillion. Thats too much. Let me ask them, what would they have me cut . What would they have me leave out . Im grateful that the senate and the house are moving quickly. Im prepared to hear their ideas how to make the package better and make it cheaper. Im open to that. But we have to make clear who is helped and who is hurt, and my hope is is the republicans in Congress Listen to their constituents. Congresswoman, what is your sense of how much room there is to negotiate about the price tag . Well, there is always room to negotiate, but democrats are willing to go it on our own if we have to. Of course, wed like bipartisan support. If anyone can make that happen, its President Biden. Hes very close to the senators on both sides of the aisle. He served there for many years. So if anyone can make a deal, he could. He tried to make a deal and the republicans came back with an offer of 600 million, nowhere near his 1. 9 trillion, and it left out something very important to democrats, and thats aid to cities and states. In our package, we passed out of my committee 350 billion for cities and states like new york. New york was the epicenter of the corona attack. We lost so many people. We were struggling. Our hospitals were overcome. We are deeply in debt in both the city and the state. This Relief Package will help the localities and the city states and tribes and territories across our nation. And if you come to the democrats with a package that leaves out cities and states and localities and people, its youre not going very far. Yeah. So were willing to go on our own, but we also want to negotiate and work together, too. Let me ask you about those 1400 checks. What is your sense of who should be qualified to receive them and the time line for getting those checks out once the bill is passed into law, presuming, of course, it becomes law . Well, it will move very quickly. The direct Stimulus Payments of 1,400 for individuals earning 75,000 and couples 150,000. We also have 400 for the expanded Unemployment Insurance until august. We also have money for the p. P. P. For loans for the Small Businesses that has direct aid, rent relief, aid for mass transit. Direct payments to families and extended unemployment. Its all needed. It would move very quickly. It will keep our promise of 2,000 for the individuals earning less than 75,000. How quickly are we talking, days, weeks, months . Sorry . Months. So it would take a little bit of time we have to get it passed first. Were trying to move quickly. Were trying to vote it out of the House Of Representatives this friday. It will go to the senate, and then the senate will do their work and it will then go to the president for his signature. And once its signed into law, then checks will be moving as quickly as possible to individuals. Before i have to let you go, the 15 minimum wage increase, a gradual increase to 15 per hour, thats become a bit of a Sticking Point either from people who say its positively has to be there or we like everything except that 15 an hour increase. Were not sure of that. What becomes of that . If you could cleave that off of the bill and keep Everything Else and ensure the bill would pass, would you let it go . Its hard to talk about what would you do in what situation because i dont know whats going to happen. I think a 15 raise for people is appropriate. Its needed. It will go right back into the economy and help the economic recovery. I guess im asking if Kevin Mccarthy came to nancy pelosi tonight and said, drop 15 an hour, and the Republican Caucus will back the bill as written, should she say yes . Well, joshua, hes not going to do that. Ive worked with him a long time. Hes not going to do that. So its not even a question. So lets see and deal with what reality is, and right now we have a package. Its a good package. Were supporting it. We can pass it on our own. We have a majority in the house and the senate and the president. We can go reconciliation and pass the package as is if the republicans wanted to work with us in a reasonable way wed love that. President biden was vicePresident Biden working with president obama and obama bent over backwards trying to get republicans on board and they wouldnt come on board. Based on that past experience, we are prepared to do it just with democratic votes if we have to. Of course, i truly believe the best legislation is always bipartisan. Right, right. And we welcome bipartisan support, but were not going to let them stop us helping the American People that have suffered under this coronavirus. Our economies are suffering. The individuals are suffering. In this package very important is all this money for vaccinations and testing, tracing, to help get the health of the country going so we can open up economically. So its a very important package. Im excited about it. I hope it passes in full. Its needed. Sorry to cut you short. We have to move on, but i appreciate your time tonight, congresswoman. Thank you. Still to come, President Biden will soon face a major decision about the war in afghanistan. We will consider americas next moves with colorado congressman and retired army ranger jason crow. Then a heart warming story for black history month. A mom brought home black history for her Daughter Filling A Gap in her childs education. It may be the worlds best way to play dressup. 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Talking points may well include the Impeachment Trial and President Bidens first month in office. Former vicepresident mike pence was reportedly also invited to speak, but declined. Many people have asked what the former president means for the gop, but what does he mean for conservatism more broadly . Some conservatives say they are decidedly vocally antitrump. I would not support him for reelection in 2024. Hes going to have a voice, but as a former president s do, but theres many voices in the party. And, again, he should not define our future. Weve got to define it for ourselves. Joining us now is dan snyderer, director of the American Conservative Union and director of cpac. Mr. Snyder, good to see you. Joshua, always good to see you. How did this come about . Did President Trump asked to be parts of cpac or did cpac invite him . We sent out invitations to some of our intended speakers early on. Actually, while he was still president before the election, as we did with vicepresident pence. We are pleased the president is going to be joining us and we are disappointed the vicepresident is not. I mean, i think its a mistake for him not to come. We conservatives think of vicepresident pence with great honor and dignity. He is a real champion for conservatism. Hes spoken at cpac, 13, 14 times over the years. And i know if he were to come to cpac he would be greeted very warmly, with great respect, and frankly i really hope he reconsiders. And if he wants to come, well make room for him. Cpac is a fascinating event. Ive covered it a few years at your invitation and was kind of taken at the mix of things that goes on there. There are big speeches on the plenary stage. Theres lots of political Training Sessions like about organizing and political discussion and so on. Some of it has a bit of kind of a worlds fair atmosphere with people kind of in all kinds of outfits and whatever. What do you hope that donald trump adds to cpac this year . Whats your goal for him taking the stage . Well, joshua, its always good to have you at cpac. Ive interviewed with you in the booth. But, yeah, we do have people in costumes, some people. But conservatives do know how to have fun and cpac is a place we can go and learn and also have fun. As far as President Trump goes, hes very popular among most conservatives. He has always called himself a populist. He represents sort of a make America Great side of the right, and conservatives have been very pleased with his performance as president when it comes to policy. He has great support among conservatives. All the great work he did when he was president. Im sure there are people positively tearing their teeth out at the fact donald trump wont stay quiet and let joe biden have the spotlight the first 100 days of his presidency. We know there are also some conservatives who do not believe donald trump should be the standard bearer for the party as there are some conservatives who do. We spoke to Evan Mcmullen not too long ago about the gops Future Post Trump administration. Heres part of what he said. Its better for the country that there are two healthy parties committed to democracy. We should all be committed to that. And the Republican Party, if it has to go through a period of division in order to recommit to democracy and our founding values, and if that means losing a few races, if that means losing a few rounds, a few cycles of elections in order to retool and become a prodemocracy party committed to our values, then its worth it. How do you reconcile an event like cpac like some of the things President Trump has said and done that are questionable, at best . Well, look, Everybody Knows that President Trump has said things that are very hard to explain. The point mr. Mcmullen was making is i think he said two parties. Theres no reason why we should be limited to two parties. Im speaking as a conservative. I dont speak on behalf of the Republican Party. We need to have at least viable healthy parties. Todays cancel culture has really a taksd republicans, its attacked conservatives. Its attacked make America Great. We have to restore faith in our Pluralistic Society. Its okay to have someone who thinks differently than you. Does that mean the Pluralistic Society whos ha conservatives and republicans who positive difficult do not like donald trump . Some voted to either impeach or convict him at the trial have been roundly censured by their state gops. That kind of feels like a cancel. Dan . Hang on, were having a little trouble with dan snyders picture. Well give him a second. We were speaking with dan snyder, the director of cpac and the director of the American Conservative Union. Dan, are you back, can you hear me . Are you there . Ah, darn it, right when i was going to ask the question i was going to ask. We will see if we can have him back and ask that question another time. That was dan snyder, head of the cpac ahead of the former president s speech next sunday. Coming up, california is getting closer to a Recall Election targeting the governor. Are the votes there to remove gavin newsom . That is next. That is next transitions™ light under control. Upbeat music transitions™ Signature Gen 8™ available now, in 4 vibrant style colors. Transitions™ when it comes to laundry, available now, in 4 vibrant style colors. Everyone thinks their way is the right way. I wash on delicate. I just stuff everything in. You have to wash on cold, because it saves energy. The secret is, tide pods work no matter how you wash. So, everyone is right. Its got to be tide. Washed your hands a lot today . Probably like 40 times. Hands feel dry . Like sandpaper. Introducing new dove handwash, with 5 x moisturizer blend. 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Many people think that he would be better suited as the University President , but i think hes a fine senator, and i think that the Republican Party should be open to diverse points of views. I think the Impeachment Vote itself was misguided and the motivation. I do want to just underscore for people who have never actually been to cpac, cpac is a conservative event, not a republican event, and there are people at cpac, having covered it twice, who are republicans, who are libertarians, who are diehard independents, but they all consider themselves conservatives and have some rather robust debates about policy. We actually have liberals and socialists come, too. Were not afraid to have diverse Point Of View and have discussion and arguments and debate in a goodnatured way [ inaudible ]. One of the things i have to ask, though, on behalf of the progressives in our audience, and im guessing there are a few because you know what network this is. Im sure there are some people in our audience who are hearing this and thinking, donald trump needs to go away and shut the hell up, joe biden has been in office a month, his presidency is over, his presidency ended in a disgrace, it ended in an attack, thank you for someone who is lucrative in politics, you have shown your true colors. To people who think that, what would you say to them . First, the attack on the capitol was an attack on america. People who attack the peoples house deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It was obscene what they did and im glad the fbi is on top of that. I think that the president was inciting that riot, no, of course not. Clearly the great majority of people who were protesting that day were protesting because they had real concerns about whether the elections in the various states were conducted fairly and consistently with the rule of law. But 95, 98 of the people who were protesting that day stayed on the mall. Its only a tiny handful of people who attacked the capitol. Those people should be prosecuted and sent to prison. In terms of platforming donald trump after his presidency is over and the nation is trying to cool the political temperature, before i let you go, what do you say to people who say he should be quiet and let joe biden run the country . Every American Citizen has a First Amendment right to speech and we as conservatives by and large are pleased with the results of the trump administration. Recognizing the capital of israel, the other really amazing policies that were accomplished, reducing regulations, allowing economy to grow, jobs at record pace. Were happy to give the president an opportunity to talk about the policies. We think every conversation should be done in a civil way where we respect each others points of view. Dan snyder of the American Conservative Union and cpac. I wish we hadnt had the technical issues, but i appreciate you sticking with us and taking time. Thanks very much. Thank you, joshua. Lets stick with politics for just a minute. California is inching closer to voting on removing its governor, gavin newsom, from office. But getting a Recall Election could be much easier than actually recalling him. Governor newsome won in 2018 by a landslide with 62 of the vote. Lately hes come under fire for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. Holding a recall will require 1 1 2 million verified signatures. State Officials Say they have received more than 80 of that, well ahead of next months deadline. California has only had one other gubernatorial Recall Election. It was back in 2003. Voters recalled democratic governor gray davis and replaced him with a republican. Arnold schwarzenegger. Lets get the latest on this recall effort from scott cohn south of San Francisco in redwood city on the peninsula. Scott, explain how this recall would work if the signatures are verified. Reporter well, thats the key right now. Thats what were looking at, is the verification of the signatures. As you mentioned, they need about 1 1 2 million signatures, just shy of that. Thats based on the percentage of votes in the last election. Secretary of state has received a little over a million signatures. They have validated about 668,000. So theres a little bit of a ways to go there for the backers of the recall campaign, but experts say that it is on track. It might be tight, but it is on track. Then we would see an election in probably late summer, early fall with two questions. One, should governor newsome be removed . And if so, the Second Question is who should replace him in that 2003 recall there were 135 candidates on the ballot, including Arnold Schwarzenegger and its really the person who has the most votes in that Second Question who wins. Tell us a bit more about who is behind this effort and what their rationale is for. The official petition claims the governor has, quote, implemented laws which are detrimental to the citizens of the state and our way of life, unquote. Who is behind this effort, who is supporting it and whats their argument for getting rid of gavin newsom . Yeah, the original petition says nothing about the pandemic, for example. It predates the pandemic. It talks about things like illegal immigration, homelessness, high taxes and the like. But when the pandemic took hold around this time last year, then a lot of forces aligned. Theres a republican democrat turned republican, former Trump Staffer in Southern California named randy economy. Thats his real name. The original backer of the Recall Attempt that doesnt mention the pandemic is a former Police Sergeant named orrin heatly. They combined. The republicans are funding it to some degree, but they have a real question here of how they, if theyre successful getting this on the ballot, who do they embrace . Do they embrace the pro trump side of the party or moderate faction of the Republican Party . Thank you, scott. Thats scott cohn reporting for us from redwood city, california. Coming up, when the pandemic recedes, well go back to our offices. But what will that look like . Pro Sports Leagues are testing out new tech that might give us an answer. R. System, your body needs routine. Centrum helps your immune defenses every day, with vitamin c, d and zinc. Season, after season. Ace your immune support, with centrum. Liberty mutual customizes wait. Am i in one of those Liberty Mutual commercials where they stand in front of the Statue Of Liberty and talk about how Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . Uhhh. Yes. Huh. What happens in this one . Seagulls. Oh, i like it. How are you doing . Seagulls Sounds only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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The white house says covid vaccinations are up to 1. 7 million per day. At that rate we could see a return to Something Like normal by the end of this year. Some pro Sports Leagues are testing out what that might look like. Theyre working on new technology that monitors the proximity between players and tracks potential covid outbreaks. Could Something Like this end up at your workplace . Heres nbc Technology Correspondent jacob ward. Reporter Major League Baseball is now tracking new stats on players, including exactly how close they get to one another. Sports teams of all kinds are experimenting with this sort of tech. Even in a Contact Sport like football, the field is less of a covid risk than rooms like this, according to the nfl. We never saw the virus transmit from one side of the ball to another during a game. Did not happen in our environment. Reporter look closely and you can see these devices on everybody. 7,000 players and staff wore them this season. Their proximity trackers made by Sports Performance tech company kinexon. It sends a sensor. In real time its telling you the physical distance between your could you worker. Its blinking red if its too close. It gives a beep and signal if you want. If you stand close too long. We analyze data that come from the proximity devices. They were applied to new protocols as we moved mid season. The space between lockers or limit the number of people in the locker room. We use many clubs use buses so you can space people out. As soon as we heard a chirp or saw the light flash, you would see people take one large step backwards. Reporter another study the ring could spot covid symptoms before we do. The aura ring tracks my body temperature, my heart rate, how well i sleep. Today i have a Readiness Score of 93, but its one thing to use this as a fitness tracker. Are we really ready for a world in which our chances of getting sick get shared with our employers . Aura already does this for hundreds of organizations, from the nba and wnba to nascar and formula one. And its not just sports. Will devices like this be a staple down the road . Luckily we had the pleasure to partner with so many organizations, sports teams, regular businesses such as Las Vegas Sands and even soldiers in the defense sector. Reporter do you think the future also includes reporting data like this ring to someones employer, like does nbc start to see my data . Is that the future of this, do you think . They wouldnt be able to see actually what time you went to bed or what your heart rate was or if you were getting stressed. What they would see is the probability that, hey, someone in jake or someone in his office or on his floor, were seeing two people that look like theyre getting sick. Now it looks like its four, now it looks like its six. 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Since 2015, the mother and daughter duo have highlighted a historic black woman for every day in february. Social media posts include photo recreations on that womans accomplishments. Serena williams, Condaleeza Rice and many more. They showcased women in every field. They join us now. Good evening to you both. Welcome. Thanks for having us. So, first of all, let me just say, go ahead, mom, because thank you. That is awesome. That is truly wonderful. What gave you the idea to teach your daughter black history in this way . I just knew that dressup was something that ava would enjoy. She had a crazy imagination and she would always create her own outfits and just tell me the things that she was, and so i knew that if i dressed her as the people i wanted her to learn about, that it would help her receive and retain the information. Did you ever try, ms. Rogers, to work through avas School Encourage them to teach black history . Was there any communication about that . I didnt. At the time she was in prekindergarten. So i wasnt especially upset with the school. I just saw it as an opportunity for me to do it myself. As her parent, i am her first teacher. So i knew i needed to fill in the gap. In retrospect, it would have been a good idea to try to introduce a black history curriculum. At the time it didnt occur to me to get the school involved, ava, what was it like for you beginning to do some of these dress up photo projects . Did you understand early on what they were about or was it more kind of just for fun for you . I think that it was a time of learning and having fun. Were there any projects that you like the most or are there any that really stick with you as strong memories . Well, my mother is one that i really, really, really like to keep with me, and i like the picture of tina turner. I think that picture was very great. You did tina turner . Yes. We portrayed tina turner in 2019. I am just this is the sweetest thing. I am prone to cavities. I cant have this conversation. Its too sweet. Tell me about some of the changes that you noticed, miss rogers, in your daughter. Did you begin to see kind of the importance of this click for her over time . Yes. Ava sees herself in the people she portrays. When we started early on she noticed that at the time she was 5, so she watched Doc Mcstuffins and heard Michelle Obamas voice and remembers thats the first lady at the time she was of the united states. I portrayed her. And she will see an Art Assignment from her teacher last year in 4th grade portraying the style of Faith Ringgold and she was excited, reminded me she portrayed her in 2016. So shell see women in different places or shell read a magazine or come across something and shell remember that thats someone she learned about and then she can base her career goals. I see you have a picture of mariah russell, and she is a chef. Thats one of avas career goals. So she really sees herself in the women that we celebrate. I was going to ask you about this, if doing this has helped you think about what he want to do or be when you grow up. Yes. Very much so. And a lot of these women i see and im, like, wow, i think that i want to do this. Yes. So, its very fun and i like to see what i can do with the women. Before i let yall go, miss rogers, for other parents when who may be looking at your project whether or not theyre people of color and thinking i want to do Something Like that with my kide, what advice would you give them in terms of how to go about it . I would say think of what you want your child to learn. Think of different areas where you want them to see representation and choose someone you can celebrate. I try to come up with different categories. Academia, military, medicine, entertainment, and then i just find people who have excelled in those areas. So i would just tell them to look up black firsts, look up black accomplishments and find someone. When you find that person, if you want to dress up as that person, just choose a picture and emulate it and just remember, if you are not brown, dont color yourself to be that way. But other than that, just celebrate the person. Chauncey rogers and ava rogers. Ava, you know youre awesome, right . Yes. Okay, im just making sure we are on the same page. This is fabulous. Thank you. Its amazing how much black mamas got to do to take care of their little ones. I appreciate you doing it. God bless you. God bless you. Thank you for having us. Speaking of black history month, Vice President Kamala Harris will discuss it with the Reverend Al Sharpton next saturday. Catch that exclusive interview on politicsnation next saturday at 5 00 p. M. Eastern here on msnbc. Its either thef a 165point certification process. Or it isnt. Its either testing an array of advanced safety systems. Or it isnt. Its either the Peace Of Mind of a standard unlimited mileage warranty. Or it isnt. 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