Engulfing his state and constituents. Right before he got on the plane, he basically made this poor decision he made, an adult, he blamed it apparently on his kids. My daughters asked if they could take a trip with some friends, and heidi and i agreed. So i flew down with them last night, dropped them off here and im headed back to texas and back continuing to work. Back to work in texas. As for the claims there, we have a fact check coming up. Politically, civically, responsibility wise, its a problem for senator cruz. We begin with the reason its a problem, because so many peoples lives hang in the balance. Texas suffering this horrific crisis that we and so many journalists have been reporting on. The freezing weather has paralyzed huge swaths of the state. Hundreds of thousands of people remain in the dark as of this hour, which means no heat, reports of Food Shortages mounting, residents scrambling for basic shelter. The storm has taken 21 lives, including a man who died from gas picks on as he slept with his wife because he was using a heater inside his house. Problems there also flooded with over 300 Carbon Monoxide cases. People are cold. Theyre worried about the problems that come and the risks that comes with being too cold for too long, but some are understandably in situations where they end up doing what experts say are Dangerous Things to try to forestall, that to try to keep warm. 12 million residents disrupted with water supply. Millions are boiling tap water before drinking it. Days of record low temperatures have also damaged the texas infrastructure, leading to burst pipes, frozen wells, Treatment Plants on backup power. Hospitals have major flood damage and pipes burst. Theyre not immune to the problems even as they give care. We can show people lining up, lets take a look at this, at a public spigot, because well take this in full here. I want everyone to see what people are doing. These are people going to the spigot here to try to get clean water at home. The water crisis is affecting people, and theyre doing whatever they can, residents from all sides today. The whole front half of the church is about an inch and a half of water. Pipes are bursting, flooding homes. The inside temp dipped to 40 degrees monday night. This was the Scene Waiting for them when they got back. Water was pouring everywhere in our living room. This is the problem situation were facing with this boil water notice. There is no electricity in neighborhood. We have no water at all. Ive had no baths in four days. We lost our water. Thats why i came here to pick up some water. The storm is also fracturing the supply chain. In long lines were seeing here, for example. In the cold, of course, trying get into Grocery Stores to get some food. We have reports of people waiting many hours. Then once inside, of course, you have people confronted with this, the empty shelves. You can see Refrigerator Cases in Grocery Stores. No milk, no eggs, no bread, and in some cases reports of no water. The line stretches halfway almost to the corner here. Some waited in line over 45 minutes. I was not expecting this. Hopefully i can get out here within an hour or two. Empty shelves and very little inventory left. We tried to go through the shelves today to get water. There is no water in the store. We only have two cases of water left. Either you stay at your house and, you know, you are cold and you freeze to death and you have no food. Were learning about this from reports, from journalism, and from those firsthand accounts. People of course these days can share the horror on social media with videos, with photographs. People resorting to use their cars to try to stay warm or charge their phones so they have some outside line of communication. Also long lines at gas stations. There is video outside a walmart. This is south texas, where cars were lining up, hoping to get some gas. Other stations out of fuel or power, forcing people to drive miles. I have nine miles left to go. We have to find something thats within nine miles from here. I dont know how many gas stations we went to. Five, maybe . At least. And we havent been able to find fuel. Power has started to come back for hundreds of thousands of homes as well across texas. So there is relief for some. Officials say there is a level of rotating outages now that may be, quote, needed for the next couple of days even to get the grid stable. The federal government is trying to help. President Biden Authorizing Fema to provide texas with heater, water and blankets. So many people affected. Joining us now is tonia hilton reporting from houston, and libby casey with an eye on this for the washington post. Antonia, please tell us what youre seeing. Hey, ari. Here in houston, people are exhausted and emotional. Now days into this crisis. Ive spoken to residents who have risked their lives going out on icy roads to find water for their kids, to find a hot meal, telling me they havent showered since sunday, that their houses are about 32 degrees. I spoke today to a family that ended up resorting going to somebodys pool and taking their pool water to bring home and boil and use. Thats how desperate they are. They have eight people in their home, and they have about a case and a half left of drinkable water right now. And theyve gone from store to store, to groceries, to gas stations just seeing if people have bottled water or drinkable things, and theyre struggling to be able to take care of their families. I also spoke to a mom who has three special Needs Children who have medication that needed to be refrigerated at a certain temperature. She drove all around looking for somewhere safe to keep them, and eventually found a safe place to stay because someone on twitter offered her a random hotel room because they happened to see her tweet out, her pain and frustration. So thats just a fraction of what ive been hearing on the ground here, ari. I think it paints a pretty clear picture. Yes. Antonia, i want to ask you about the discussions about the grid and policy. We mentioned senator cruz is in some controversy. Were going get to that later in the program, but there has also been understandable frustration by texans against many Different Office holders about how is it this bad in america . We are all familiar, weve all covered unavoidable weather tragedies, be it a hurricane or a storm. Day one sometimes is just the understandable Emergency Response, and its just that, a tragedy. But as you get days going further and further away from it hitting, there is usually the test of whether government Emergency Response is working or not. I think weve all lived through some of these. I want to read from your view given that youre covering this on the ground from the el paso times, which reports about the electricity issues specifically to the state, in that place, not being connected to the rest of texas helped el paso in the cold wave in 2011, el paso resorted to rolling blackouts because of several days of single digit below zero temperatures. This does happen in texas. After that, epe spent 4. 5 million to repair and better winterize. It is a real world example some are pointing to about what is possibly a better way to deal with this. Tell us what youre hearing from people about that part of this debate thats about Emergency Services as well as policy . Every Single Person ive spoken to here on the ground says that leaders here at the local level, at the state level absolutely should have been able to see this coming. They understand that this weather is historic, that this is a cold snap and unusual for these areas of texas, but, look, they knew that this was coming days in advance, and people feel like they should have been told to evacuate. Thats how dire, thats how far pushed to the edge residents feel theyve been. And theyve also struggled to get clear information, even as these different agencies have released press release, tried to calm people that theyve made progress overnight, theyre not doing it at the community or zip code level. So people here, oh, lights are coming back on. 98 of our customers should see their lights and power back on today. But for the folks who arent having, and im still talking to people who are mission all of these resources right now, they cant get clear answer when are these resources coming back to me. I just spoke to a wham who is crying because her husband is on dialysis. He is sick right now and has been shivering in their apartment. Their lights and power have come back on, but they have no water to cook food or to bathe. And they are struggling to get answers from their local leaders here. They want to see the Electricity Reliability Council of texas. Theyre mad at Governor Abbott and feel he could have pushed for better winterizing of these facilities in advance. And now theyre mad at ted cruz in addition. Theyre mad that their senator would try to go to cancun for any reason while he literally has people dying here in his home state. Antonia hilton, thank you for your reporting. Stay safe. Well be coming back to you. Libby casey, take a listen to Rachel Maddows reporting on this as well. They run it the texas way. They dont like regulations. After the fiasco in 2011 and the recommendations from ferc, texas announced some Best Practices for all its power producers. But thats what they were, Best Practices. It didnt actually require any of them to do anything. Now it is the families of texas who are literally trying to shiver through yet another cold night to survive this. Some perspective on recent history. Were joined by judge clay jenkins, county judge for Dallas County, texas. He is one of the administrators. Libby casey is here. Judge, rachel and others and our reporting on the ground are discussing some of the history here. Your view on why texas is in this position. This is completely predictable. We had a report from the feds and a report from the State Legislature that told the governor he needed to weatherize the generation and needed to replace our antiquated natural gas pad land system. I spoke in front of the Legislature Two years ago about the importance of replacing this Pap Land System so we didnt have situations like this. We have been doing tabletops here in Dallas County with Emergency Managers since texas refused to weatherize so that we can keep our water system and other things working when this inevitably happened. And look, when you choose to not regulate and weatherization in a commodity market, you are Ordering Generators not to weatherize because they are tasked with following the regulations and getting you energy at the lowest prices. Libby . Yeah, its all about cheap, then you get what you pay for to some degree, ari. I think a real autopsy of this will absolutely be done. Part of the problem here is how the governor and others have been talking about this, especially in the early days. Npr did a great report this morning showing Governor Abbott on fox news blaming green power and wind turbines, and then on the local stations telling a more truthful tale talking about this is a failure across the board and the combination of this unprecedented storm with the grid unable to carry these loads and power not being generated for a range of reasons, including natural gas, that is a different tale than what they were trying to spin early on. So the focus of trying to politicize this moment when really the need for so many texans is dire just sort of shows the disconnect between the politics and what people are experiencing on the ground. And libby, as someone who charts a lot of these issues, extreme weather is not going away any time soon. Do these kind of stress tests for governments, state or federal also put certain modern republican orthodoxies under the test . Because this is not one of those debatable things we covered Donald Trumps Supreme Court justices, and people can debate who they wanton court, it sort of depends on the issue. Here either this stuff works to keep people safe and the grid working or it doesnt. And were hearing a lot of reports right now, libby, that it doesnt. There has to be a plan laid out. I think everyone would agree to this, that doesnt just look a year or two down the road and think about shortterm budgets, but looks 20, 30, 40, 50 years down the road when you think about infrastructure. We became this laughing joke in washington to hear about infrastructure week under the Trump Administration, but we are now hearing the Biden Administration also prioritize infrastructure because that is something that people on both sides of the aisle can get behind. Unfortunately on the Trump Administration it ended up being a way to pivot from the scandal of the moment or the crisis of the day. But politicians on both sides of the aisle, liberal and conservative, democrat, republican, there is a lot of Common Ground and area of interest when you can try to get coalitions built sort of on the old school line, based on regions, based on high density, low density, rather than liberal versus conservative. You can find ways to come together on infrastructure. And that is something that the Biden Administration, its one of the prongs theyre trying to push on right now. Libby casey and judge jenkins, thanks to both of you. We have our shortest break, just 30 seconds. Tonight im keeping it moving because we have a Special Report tonight on extremism inside u. S. Policing. My report coming up later. The doj has a new investigation into Governor Cuomo over that covid story were coving. But the ted cruz fallout with michael steele, when were back in just 30 seconds. St 30 s. Lease the 2021 is 300 for 359 a month for thirty nine months. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. My daughters asked if they could take a trip with some friends, and heidi and i agreed so i flew down with them last night, drop them off here and now im headed back to texas and back continuing to work. Senator cruz today right before he boarded a plane to return from mexico to texas, under fire for taking a mexico vacation amidst what we just showed in this humanitarian crisis. Michael steele is here. Michael, was this a responsible or good idea for senator cruz . Oh, it was the height of arrogance to believe that you could in the midst of this just continue on with the family plans. Look, the family plans may have been in place for a while, you know. Its been reported that he was planning to come become on saturday, not today. The fact of the matter is he should have said to his family and im sure they would understand, you know, sweetheart, i know you want to go with your friends, we want you to go and you guys have a good time, but we have a lot of people hurting in our state right now, and im going to stay here and hurt them. I think that would have made a lot of sense to his family and it certainly would have made a lot of sense to the people of texas if he said something. But the arrogance of power, the arrogance of being isolated and insulated from reality. The fact that you would go on fox and claim one thing but Say Something different later on as the governor of the state just gives you a sense of the environment that has been created inside some of these insular spaces where some republicans hang out detached from the reality. And thats the unfortunate part. Not for ted cruz, but for the people of texas right now who are suffering and dying because of this. Yeah, and weve got on the screen so people can understand. This is how ted cruz is living right here. This is ted cruz nodding at people, going through the airport, accompanied by whatever retinue of security he has. This is how he is living as an elite, choosing to not only flee texas, but flee the country, michael, during what we just showed. Go ahead. Ari, we have so many examples in modern times of mayors, city administrators, governors, elected officials leaving town at the height of a particularly environmental crisis, whether its fires or bad weather, storms, and getting skewered for it. So what in the world do you think as a United States senator from the second largest state in the country, texas, which most people think as hot to begin with any way, that its now suffering through a snowstorm so you know people are like you got to Pay Attention to that. What makes you think you cant . Thats the last thing i got to ask you, michael. Part of my job is just take in the info, ask the obvious questions. But, you know, this is the question. With everything going on in texas, what does it reveal about ted cruzs view of his job, his actual elected constitutional job that this notwithstanding mexico or not was a time to take vacation when people are dying and he could use his power as a representative of the state of texas to do any number of things visavis any number of governments. Its a big state, local state, county, electrical grid, federal, fema, that he thinks he can leave his post because he doesnt even take it as a premise that he would even do any work during this. Its about having the job, not doing the job. Its about having the job and the power that comes from that job and using it in a way to continue selfbenefit, selfaggrandizement, and not at a political moment where that power could be used to actually help people in using it that way and employing it that way. Weve seen it. People want the job. They want the title, but the responsibility that comes from it, well, thats another thing. Well, michael, you keep it plain and clear. Its the answer. That is the answer, right . Thats the answer. I hadnt thought of those words. But the title, right, versus the responsibility. And everything ive said is not offered with any political lens. Were just talking about any representative of a government doing this while people die. Thank you, sir. I was going to say i was a lieutenant governor, so i know the responsibilities there. And people should understand that job title requires work. Yes. Michael steele, thank you. We have a lot more in the program, as i mentioned. New developments in this covid crisis in new york. My Special Report on what we can learn about whats happening inside Police Departments around the nation, coming up. , coming. sam gamers he who is good for Making Excuses is seldom good for anything else. Take fuzzywuzzy28. Blamin losses on a laggy network. 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Now many indicted rioters have these backgrounds, and its particularly disturbing that people entrusted to potentially kill for the United States, to use lethal force, turned around and used their training against the United States, against the capitol, against our democracy. Thats according to current authorities. While many officers serving that day were of course on the other side, risking life and limb, performing those real acts of heroism we witnessed while outnumbered, and they were squaring off at times with fellow veterans of service or possibly Law Enforcement training. The wider problems of extremism and outright racism are not new, though. And even clear warnings have sometimes been downplayed or resisted for the wrong reasons, like politics or fear of criticizing any police force. When lets be clear at the start of this Special Report. Police forces like the government in general are supposed to be overseen and held to account by the people with facts and fairness in a democracy. Now im telling you this because it matters now tonight. And we all as a society need to continue to face the facts to inform the road ahead, which includes facing longstanding warnings like this, a warning on white Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement by the fbi 15 years ago. Which noted that if infiltration goes undetected, its of great concern. The fbis job is to defend the u. S. And prosecute the big crimes, the big federal cases. It is not supposed to matter for example whether terrorist killers from iraq or ohio. Even the fbis own directors admit that it can be a failure of that fair standard any time the government or any Law Enforcement goes too easy on the homegrown terrorists, the bad guys who might look more like certain people. And even back in the post9 11 era, then director bob mueller emphasized under oath that domestic terror and these White Supremacist threats were almost equally on par with al qaeda. Much of our history is not pretty. Law enforcement enforced the status quo. The status quo that was often brutally unfair to various groups. Domestic terrorism is also an important an issue as international terrorism, whether it be White Supremacist, militia extremists, sovereign citizen extremists. A huge chunk of those domestic terrorism investigations involve racially motivated violent extremists fueled by some kind of white supremacy. And i would say the most lethal activity over the last few years has been committed by those type of attackers. You just saw three different fbi directors across administrations of both parties, though all three happened to by the way be republicans as a registration matter, and you heard them, including the most recent saying the most lethal stuff comes from these White Supremacist killers and terrorists. This has been around. Thats the broad assessment. And then there are the more detailed specific examples when you get into polices like two florida officers found to belong to the kkk ousted in 2014, or two highranking Police Officers found to be in the White Supremacist Group southern independence, fired from an Alabama Police force. Just consider the horror of a kkk member Walking Around with a badge and gun. Many minority members of the military, the other piece i mentioned from january 6, they say theyve seen specific examples of White Nationalism there. Almost half of the population minority members according to a Military Times poll and one out of five white soldiers say theyve seen that White Nationalism right there in our military. Some in government have tried to act on this. House democrats held hearings on this as recently as last year where a former neonazi recounted on record how exactly they infiltrated the police. White supremacist leaders encouraged their followers to join the police force as a means to cause harm to people of color. Becomes a goal of theirs to get around the Screening Process of Police Departments that is talked about in the rooms all the time, to make sure that they dont see that we have either neonazi past or neonazi beliefs. Chilling. Whats being detailed there, again, in the context of a growing White Supremacist murderous threat that three different fbi directors outlined is the elaborate plotting by some to get inside Police Forces which of course have plenty problems even before you get to this particular issue in order for the explicit goal of, quote, harming people of color. Thats not all. I want you to also consider the direct and eyewitness experience of people who served on the Capitol Hill Police force. Sharon blackman mali is a 25year veteran of the Capitol Police force. She saw so much racism that she was moved to risk her whole career, none of this stuff is easy, to take on the force itself, the force she served on, and she took it to court with a Discrimination Suit that first began decades ago. Now it turns out she was not alone. These kind of cases legally are stronger with more numbers, or more witnesses. Now lawyers knew she would fare better if she wasnt alone, if she could get 10 or 15 or 20 others to join her. How many did she get in this case . 250. She is speaking out now after january 6, arguing that some of the seeds of that riot and the response and the problems came from the past records of Police Leaders and powerful people ignoring what she says she documented. I want you to hear her plaintive warning as someone who wore the Capitol Police uniform about what she felt she would be asked to do were she serving on a day like january 6. She has spoken to black Police Officers that were at the capitol that day. Theyre traumatized. Some in the crowd called them the n word. Some are injured. Theyre also scared because they saw a few of their white colleagues show sympathy with the mob. Now you expect me to go stand beside an officer, not knowing whether or not he is one of the terrorists. Thats what we deem them to be. Lets listen to her. She served. She did some of this work. And we saw what happened. Jessica watkins, an army veteran from ohio and avowed member of the far right Militia Group oath keepers was bothing about her role there on the 6th. According to federal Court Documents she posted online, we stormed the capitol today, tear gassed, the whole nine, pushed our way into the rotunda. Made into it the senate even. White supremacists boasting a 43 seen smashing a window at the capitol took a, quote, Victory Smoke inside that building. The fbi notes he is selfidentified as a former marine as well as a member of the proud boys. Or Police Officers from rocking mount, virginia, who proudly posted this selfie from inside the capitol. These are Police Officers documenting their own crimes on the day of the insurrection. Were showing it to you unedited because you should see the message theyre giving everyone. This is an exhibit in court now. Theyre facing five federal counts. They have also now since all that been fired. This is a complex story, as i mentioned at the top. There are heroic capitol hill Police Officers as well, many we saw. They protected lawmakers. They risked their lives. They faced down the racism and crimes and threats of the mob. Which included, as im showing you, veterans and officers in its criminal ranks. I want to read to you on air something that was said. We dont have it on tape. So i cant play it for you, but its important. Im going to read it. A black Officer Recounting to one writer covering this, quote, i sat down with one of my buddies, another black guy. And tears just started streaming down my face. I said is this america . What the blank just happened . Im so sick and tired of this blank. These capitol riots put much on display. The disparity and the treatment of people who march into the capitol to break the law and get through it all partly by overwhelming police, but partly by the disparate treatment which weve also been documenting, the treatment of white criminals. There is also new scrutiny here on the years that led up to this, on the obviously murderous threat of White Supremacist terrorist violence, of white terrorists. Not singling them out because theyre white, but referring, as those fbi directors did, to the fact that they are White Supremacists, so their terrorism is in service of white power. If this is hard to say and hard to watch and hard to talk about, thats part of the problem. We need to document it, face it, talk about it as a society to make sure that when the evidence warrants, we are prosecuting it. I want to bring in two special guests for this conversation to carry out more of the gels of this Special Report tonight. I want to thank for joining us, jelani cobb, staff writer at the new yorker, also a contributor with us. And some of our viewers may recognize her expertise on more than one topic, a retired nypd detective and director of the black police alliance. Mark, thank you for joining us. I laid out some of your thoughts. Ari, long before the events of january 6th or the disclosures that you showed there by the fbi about right wing nationalistic enforcement in Law Enforcement, black officers were warning the rest of the country about the Clear And Present Danger of this danger was not only to the minority officers themselves, but now the Larger Community primarily. And it also threatened to destroy the integrity of the policing profession. Clearly, if you look at the confirmed involvement of Law Enforcement officers at the capitol, the possible involvement of elected officials, and Law Enforcement unions and fraternities, Vocal Support for the former president and his most radical, violent, right wing supporters, it is wise to question the integrity of this Ongoing Investigation and whether from the very beginning there was a commitment to find out all of the facts. I say to you there wasnt that commitment. And its curious and troubling and disturbing and worthy of further examination, because now these terrorists have fancy labels like the extremists, the homegrown violent extremists. But for minority officer, a lot of them knew them as a colleague or supervisor, sometimes even a chief or the commissioner. The only difference between those Law Enforcement officers who are involved criminally, charged criminally and the Police Officers in some communities and some departments is that these actions, actions of those at the capitol are clearly documented, and they Face Criminal Charges for it. But the threat remains and exists, and its real. And i think we should heed the warning of so many of the black and brown officers over the decades of trying to raise these issues. Jelani, they told us. Yeah, they did. But i think the important thing here is that they didnt tell us anything they we didnt already know. And so there were these intelligence reports they were talking about, the infiltration of White Supremacist elements into Law Enforcement. In 2006, thats late. Thats really late. Because there are other references going back to the 70s, the 80s. And everyone should actually should actually Pay Attention to the history. When we look at the Civil Rights Movement and the volatile nature of Law Enforcement that people were encountering, very many of those officers were aligned with and indeed members of White Supremacist organizations. So this is not a novel development. I think that whats new is that people are beginning to recognize the extent to which they pose a threat to the society at large, not simply to african americans. When people stormed the capitol, were trying to overturn an election because that was seen as fraudulent, largely because of the numbers of black people who had voted in it. And that in turn disenfranchised all sorts of other constituencies, including all of the rather would have disenfranchised other constituencies, including the white people who voted for joe biden. This is not simply a concern of african americans. I think thats a new revelation to people. Yeah. Well, the constructive version of that is coalition reform. And the pessimistic part of that is what Stokely Carmichael said, which is almost every major Civil Rights Advancement in the country only broke through when it would benefit the larger piece or white people, which is a bigger topic than even we have for the time we set aside here. Marq, i want to play one more from the piece, the neonazi mention, how it works when its set in this infiltration. Attended a Small Movement in Baltimore Run by a group called ss action. I heard the same rhetoric there. They toll us to join Law Enforcement so we can get black people felonies so they would not be able to legally arm themselves and they would not be able to vote. Marq, we made this one of our longest segments of the show, but now were down to about 30 seconds. Your final thought. What was oftentimes what is considered to be just bad policing or racebased targeted enforcement, or racial profiling, or i hate this, the bad apple, it could possibly be, and im saying to what is a fair indication that there is something much more insidious. It appears based on government reports, personal accounts of police and practitioners that alarm a number of paramilitary Law Enforcement and military have within their ranks oath keeper, proud boy, qanon, neonazi terrorists who contributed to the deaths of Police Officers, death and injuries of Police Officers and a greater threat to this government. Former detective marq claxton gets the last word on this tonight. My thanks to you and jelani cobb. We will stay on these issues. I have to fit in a break, but up ahead i have to fit in a story we havent even had time for. Multiple probablies into death data, and state data, a democrat says cuomo is trying to do retaliation. He is my special guest, next. 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If you see wires down, treat them all as if theyre hot and energized. Stay away from any downed wire, call 911, and call pg e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. There is nothing to investigate. All the numbers we produced were exactly right. We didnt provide all the information that was requested. That did create a void and misinformation did fill the void. Whether its corrupt politicians, unscrupulous landlords, inhumane immigration policies, he will take on powerful interests and hold them accountable. This is a story of two new york democrats. You see Governor Cuomo there under fire, trying to explain allegations that they covered up covid deaths after new York Attorney general Letitia James revealed a factual disparity in the data, and said after this report that cuomo vastly undercounted nursing home deaths. Cuomos administration had initially claimed there were about 9,000 nursing home residents who died of covid. But after the james report, over 15,000 deaths of Nursing Homes was revealed as the true number by cuomos administration himself. Now they first tried to call this an accounting error, but cuomos top aide has now admitted a coverup of sorts, saying they basically froze and were worried about a probe of this very issue. This entire story has been gaining traction. The report first came out last month. Weve covered it several times here on the beat as have many other News Organizations because of the import of this. Now there are new allegations by a democrat of cuomo pursuing retaliation and new York State Senate democrats are on the way, the New York Times reports, to potentially stripping cuomo of his emergency powers. The story has been escalating. Were staying on it. Were joined now by a very special guest, New York State Assemblyman ron kim. And for context, whatever state youre in, if you have followed or not followed this in new york, he has been pushing this very issue since it first came to Public Notice in april of last year. Take a look. After we discovered that there is between 30 to 60 people who might have passed away of the coronavirus at this nursing home, we still dont have any answers from the state or the nursing director. What were you concerned about then . Do you feel these numbers prove you right . And detail for viewers who may not know the whole story what you allege Governor Cuomo said to you. Yes. We saw back then the administration wasnt being forthright and they were not sharing all the information on the ground. And now the ags report validated a lot of the things that we accused the governor of doing. So now furthermore, they also admitted in a private meeting that they purposely hid information for political reasons. The governors abuse of tactics how he treated me privately all deflect from the issue is that the administration, the decision to make the Nursing Homes accept Covid Patients while handing out the legal and criminal immunity and the subsequent coverup of the true numbers of related deaths. That is a mistake they have to answer for. What do you allege what do you allege that Governor Cuomo said to you . The governor asked me to issue a statement that countered what i heard in the meeting and essentially cover up the coverup. And i refused to do that. It is unethical. Its potentially illegal, and that was the moment, despite the yelling, all that stuff, but it was that request that made me speak out and say enough is enough. We need to check this executive and we need to do our job and protect integrity of the state senate and the assembly so we can go ahead. Are you standing by the claim that he was vowing retribution, that he would, quote, destroy you, which in fairness to the story, he denies. Do you stand by that claim . Yes, i do. He spent ten minutes berating me, threatening me to end my career in front of my family, in front of my kids while i was about to bathe them, in front of my wife. But, again, this is a pattern of abusive behavior by this governor. I was doing my job. I am the chair of the asian committee. I am tasked to ask the tough questions. I shouldnt be punished. I shouldnt be implicated. Right. Those should not be the two options for doing my job. I think that makes sense. And again, that the governor has denied this, and he is welcome to come on, as he has before, to discuss this issue. Your debate as well as covid. I want to put on the screen something. In fairness and frankness, assemblyman, many of our viewers know Governor Cuomo. Not many know you. Some might say who are you to lodge this charge. For context, though, something you just said is true, and i think people should know that as well. Youre not the first democrat to clash with the governor to this degree with complaints that he has been over the line. Im putting up on the screen some of the many recognizable democrats. The new york mayor, for example, statewide Office Holders who then cuomo would blast as a liar, a disgrace, no courage. Do you view this as a pattern that goes beyond just normal politics and something wrong with how the governor is leading the state . Absolutely. Its a pattern of abusive tactics that almost every political person in new york knows about. But we want to move past this, because this is not about the governor. This is about the last ten months of the bad policies that hes instituted. Again, thats why im here. Thats why i want to get to work. I want to undo all those bad the people who are recovering from covid with Health Care Problems right now in Nursing Homes. Understood. 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