Transcripts For MSNBC MSNBC Live With Kendis Gibson and Lind

Transcripts For MSNBC MSNBC Live With Kendis Gibson and Lindsey Reiser 20240711

Taylor greene says shes been freed to push the Republican Party farther right after being stripped of her committee assignments. So, now i have a lot of free time on my hands, which means i can talk to a whole lot more people all over this country, and i can talk to more people and make connections and build a huge amount of support that ive already got started. And it has been one month since the capitol insurrection. The New York Times releasing a breakdown of who has been brought to justice so far, including at least 22 current or former members of the military. And covid hospitalizations dropping, but fear increasing as Health Officials warn, the super bowl parties could end up being superspreader events. As we do say good morning, everybody. It is saturday, february 6th. Im kendis gibson. And im lindsey reiser. Its good to know that at least we have something normal, the great unifier. Super bowl . Yes, sports. Its hard to believe its been only a month since all of that. We came this close to losing our democracy with that insurrection. Absolutely. But what a month it has been. And three weeks in a row, we had insurrection, we had inauguration yep. Whats the third one . Impeachment. Impeachment. There it is. All right, we have a ton to get to this morning. We have a team of reporters and analysts following the latest right now. Yes, we do. Were going to begin with msnbc correspondent mike memoli, whos in delaware with more on President Bidens latest comment. Nbc White House Correspondent monica alba is also standing by in West Palm Beach with the latest on trumps impeachment strategy. And msnbcs Marianna Sotomayor is on capitol hill with the Marjorie Taylor greene fallout. Mike, good morning to you. Lets kick things off with you, because President Biden says hes worried about what could happen if trump were to convince or continue to receive intel briefings. Reporter yeah, kendis. Well, first of all, welcome from delaware, once again. We thought we had put this in the Rearview Mirror when President Biden was inaugurated, but here we are, back already, as the president is going to be spending this Super Bowl Weekend here with family at home in delaware, had his first ride on Air Force One last night. But making some news in that traditional president ial halftime interview that he taped yesterday at the white house with cbs, saying that he would, indeed, seek to bar President Trump from receiving intel, as is customary for former president s. Now, this is significant, because we know the white house had said during the week that they were reviewing this question. Weve seen a number of members of capitol hill calling for this step to be taken. Adam schiff, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, saying earlier this week that President Trump has shown that he cannot be trusted and that he would abuse this intel for his own personal gain. But biden in this interview saying, what value would there be in President Trump continuing to receive this intel, other than the possibility he could slip and lose something pertinent. There is a question kendis and lindsey, about how much of a consumer President Trump was of this intel while president of the united states. We know from those who had briefed the president , our own reporting over the years, that he wasnt necessarily paying close attention, wasnt consuming this in the depth that president s typically do. We know that President Biden, for instance, has returned to receiving this president ial Daily Briefing on a daily basis yet again, but theres particular concern about President Trump, given the fact that he has a number of overseas business dealings. One of the ways in which former president s typically receive intel is when they travel overseas, conducting any foreign diplomacy on their own as former president s. And so, that would be directly relevant to the kind of intel that President Trump might benefit from as he continues to pursue potentially his own Business Developments as a post president. Whats also significant about this, guys, of course, weve seen the lengths to which the white house and President Biden has tried to avoid thorny questions involving his predecessor, avoiding weighing in on impeachment. So this was rather striky to see the president weighing in so forcefully on this question. Mike, weve been trying to get kenzie to happen for a while now, so you can call any time you want. Monica, trumps Impeachment Team is hinting they have new plans for the defense. What are they talking about here . Reporter well, a few more details and offering insight into a trial thats set to take place on tuesday, but that we have very little guidance on in terms of how its actually going to work, what the length is, whether House Democrats and those Impeachment Managers are going to call any more witnesses. Obviously, this week, a major question was whether former President Trump would comply with a request to testify. We now know from his legal team he has no intention of doing that. And Something Else that was under consideration was he was possibly going to do a Written Letter and submit that as part of his defense. Were now told thats not on the table either. But now were hearing from one of the former president s lawyers, bruce castor last night on fox news, who was asked how much he plans to rely on videos and interviews from last summers unrest in washington, d. C. , to try to bolster their case. Theyre going to try to make the argument that other people, when there have been protests, have also maybe possibly contributed. Theyre going to try to say that on january 6th, even though at the time, then President Trump did appear at what they called the stop the steal rally and encouraged his supporters to go to the capitol and, quote, fight, that that is protected by his First Amendment rights, and thats how theyre going to try to push back on, of course, the charge that donald trump has already been impeached by, which is that incitement of insurrection. Were getting a couple more details, though, about how this may work, in terms of the former president s defense team. Bruce castor and david schoen are the two attorneys we know who are on board, but theyve now told our team there will be a third lawyer whos going to be joining them, will be part of presenting that defense next week. So we know the trial kicks off on tuesday. Maybe questions, though, about whether its going to last a week or less. Last impeachment, it lasted almost three weeks, and just by comparison, at the time, the sitting president , donald trump, had ten lawyers defending him. Right now you have a much, much smaller group, kendis and lindsey. But we do expect democrats to continually potentially ask for more things over the next few days, so well have better insight on their response to the defense team soon here. Quite a Defense Strategy there. Marianna, what is Margery Taylor green now saying that her role is in the future of the Republican Party . Reporter well, kendis, she very much wants to push it even more right and make sure that it becomes the party of trump. She says that now that she really has no time to commit to the committees, given that they were stripped away from her last just a couple of days ago, she now has all the time in the world to be able to talk to even more republicans, especially trump supporters, to really firm up that base. She has said that she now, even besides Holding Republicans accountable and doing her job that she was elected to do, like voting for conservative principles, she can now either go on radio, go on tv, Travel The Country more to make sure that those America First policies, as she put it, will very much remain part of the Republican Party. She, of course, expressing skepticism for those who voted against her, and in the past, already expressing some skepticism for that part of the Republican Party that voted to impeach president donald trump. Former president donald trump. And even though she said she was sorry, she did say that she not necessarily regrets but is looking back at the comments that she made, and its something that she may not continue to do in the future. We will see if that continues. Even so, she has already begun to use the way and continue to use the way that trump has attacked his opponents. Even yesterday during that Press Conference, she talked about congresswoman ocasiocortez, who recounted what happened to her about a month ago. She said that shes just stealing the limelight and is using just another hoax. So, even though we may not hear those antisemitic, racist, and qanon conspiracy theories, we will very much hear the way that both trump and she in the past have attacked democrats and others as well. Also in some of her first remarks on the floor in regard to this controversy, she didnt necessarily take responsibility for it. She said, i was allowed to believe these things. Marianna, quickly, before we let you all go, lets talk covid relief. Whats the latest on that . Reporter well, now, as you guys know, the Senate Impeachment trial is going to start on tuesday, really making sure that all of the focus remains on that, at least for a week. So, democrats, both in the house and senate this past week, tried to make sure they could move forward on a number of crucial policies to get the ball really rolling to passing that 1. 9 trillion Stimulus Bill that biden has proposed. Of course, democrats really want to go on this alone, and thats exactly what they voted for, this Budget Resolution which would allow them to pass any bill that comes to be without any republican support. But as you know, biden is a compromiser and he has been Hearing Republicans out. And i want you to take a listen to what he said in his mostrecent interview that was released yesterday, where he started to show a bit of compromise on where exactly he would reach republicans. Take a list wren. Look, no one should work 40 hours a week and live below the poverty wage. And if youre making less than 15 an hour, youre living below the poverty wage. But that may not be in your American Rescue plan no. I put it in, but i dont think its going to survive. Reporter so, you hear him there basically saying that that 15 minimum wage is likely not going to be part of this bill. But the one thing he wont budge on is the 1,400 direct payments to americans. However, he says he is willing to hear republicans out on how to make sure targeting those americans who are less fortunate receive that money. Guys . That is a development, indeed. Well continue to follow that. Marianna, monica, mike, good to see all of you. Thank you. Interesting admission there from the president. Yeah, lets dig deeper into this with former florida congressman and msnbc contributor david jolly and errin haines, editor at large at the 19th. Thank you for joining us this morning. David, lets get your reaction first to President Biden saying trump should probably not have access to classified briefings, which previous president s have had access to. Look, i think joe bidens absolutely correct. We know that the exposure that donald trump apparently had, that he refused to disprove, if you will, in terms of his financial debt and obligations to foreign actors, remains, even though he has left office, and we know the behavior that led to his being impeached now twice by the house has not been curtailed, whatsoever. And i think the critical piece is this. When joe biden says, what would he use it for . You know, sometimes, former president s have access to that information so they can serve as a bit of a Kitchen Cabinet in critical moments of National Security or Economic Security to the sitting president. That clearly would not be the case in this situation, and i think what joe biden has said is the risk is greater than the reward, and i believe the president s right to restrict Donald Trumps access to intelligence now that hes out of office. And errin, im trying to wrap my head around all this, because one of trumps Impeachment Lawyers alluded to using what he calls democrats lack of reaction to protests over last summer as a line of defense. What are they trying to accomplish . Well, kendis, i think that what youre seeing here is the continued kind of False Equivalency between protesters on the left who have been overwhelmingly peaceful over the National Reckoning on race that we saw last summer, but the president and republicans really wanting to highlight some of the looting and rioting that happened last summer, which was not the overwhelming majority of that activity, and wanting to equate that with the violence, the deadly violence that we saw at the capitol or even the deadly violence that we saw in charlottesville in 2017, when the president said that there were fine people on both sides but also condemning or trying to condemn, you know, what he called the alt left at that time. But you know, these things are not equivalent. I dont think that that is really where the majority of americans are on, you know, the White Supremacists that we saw storming the capitol a month ago this week. And i think that democrats are not they have been rejecting, you know, that kind of False Equivalency that the president and republicans have continued to kind of push, trying to equate black lives matter protesters with these White Supremacists and others who have, you know, acted on these false claims of a rigged election. You know, errin, lets talk about the Republican Party for a second, because weve seen a lot of division there lately this week, particularly with Marjorie Taylor greene. Your colleague at the 19th wrote about this, asking whether the Republican Party is big enough for everybody, big enough for liz cheney and the Marjorie Taylor greenes here. Whats your take . Mccarthy told reporters that the tent is big enough. Should it be . Well, thank you, lindsey, for mentioning Amanda Beckers reporting over at 19thnews. Org, which i encourage everybody to read. Listen, i think that that is an open question for the Republican Party. These two republican women who have been in the spotlight this week i think say a lot about the future of the Republican Party and what that is going to be, if it is going to indeed be the party of former President Trump or if more Establishment Republicans are trying to chart a new course now that President Trump is out of office. But at the Press Conference that she gave yesterday, congresswoman taylor greene, from my home state of georgia, said you know, my district is thrilled with me. And in fact, you know, voters who did know a lot about her views and her qanon Association Last year did vote her into office. The former president also continues to express his support for her. So you know, what will voters say when they have an opportunity to weigh in on her next . And if those are no longer her views, i guess well have more of a chance to see what, you know, her views are. She said she plans to vote very conservatively. All right. I have to leave it there. David, appreciate your time. Errin, as well. Hope to have you guys back soon. Thank you. To continue this conversation. Im sure its not going away. One month later. The emotional pleas from the house floor. I urge my colleagues to please, please take what happened on january 6th seriously. It will lead to more death, and we can do better. We must do better. Lawmakers on edge, questioning, actually, their safety, as we learn more about the capitol hill rioters, including 11 suspects with ties to the proud boys, a group canada labeled a Terrorist Organization. Should the u. S. Do the same . Were going to put that to our experts, coming up. And tomorrow, representative jim clyburn is going to be joining ali velshi for a live int

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