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president does it, that means it's not illegal. >> i don't believe in luck. but i do believe in the value of things. >> do you still as much fun making movies now as the old days? the industry is under a lot of pressure. >> it's hard, it's challenging. brian grazer and i, finding it exciting because there are sort of more ways to get interesting projects done, and yet the challenge of sort of getting something green lit is probably, you know, more extreme than it's ever been. we're having a great run with imagine. we have a lot of great people that we're working with, but there have been so many times, it took years to get friday night lights made. liar liar, there's a movie you think would be a no-brainer. >> is that a trump film? >> that was -- okay. that took 12 years to get made.