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are you more kermy or ms. piggy? >> kermit all the way. >> jim henson, that was his alter ego. i relate to that. kermit was a pretty nice guy, trying to make sense of a bunch of crazies around him. i feel like i fall into that category. >> don't we love kermit because we see him going through it. >> getting frustrated and losing it. doesn't always say the nicest thing, but his heart's in the right place, isn't it? >> i think so. i love it. i hope you come back. ron howard here on our summit series. the film, jim hanson idea man is out, now streaming on disney plus. "the reidout" with joy reid starts now. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> during jim crow, the black family was together. during jim crow, more black