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>> america has invested in our alliances and forged new ones, not simply out of altruism, but out of our own self-interests as well. america's unique ability to bring ability to bring countries together is an undeniable source of our strength and power. isolationism was not the answer eight years ago and is not the answer today. [ applause ] >> as you know, brendan, donald trump famously went into his first nato gathering in brussels and questioned america's commitment to article 5, mutual defense. criticized the financial commitment of our allies. does the importance of nato resonate with the american voter today? or do you think that trump and some, frankly, other republicans have raised real skepticism about the importance of international alliances, including in the minds of voters? >> well, i do think it's