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action when it comes to the border -- and katy, also importantly, this action will end up decreasing the number of border crossings. it's absolutely guaranteed to do that. and that is a metric this white house and administration has paid a lot of attention to with election day approaching. >> marc murray. marc, thank you very much. all right. let's talk about this in regards to a blue state. joining us now is the democratic governor of new york, kathy hochul. so this is an issue in blue states, especially in the northeast, in chicago, because of the busing and the flying in of migrants by republicans in red states, in texas and in florida. there are so many more mie migrants in the city than we had seen in the recent past. you were with president biden at the signing of this executive order. tell me why you think this is a great idea. >> it's a great idea because you have to deal with -- if the republicans had not listened to donald trump four months ago they would have done it the way you're supposed to do it.