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Accept the results of election as his legal team fights on. Does the president have a case . We will ask former independent counsels ken starr and harvard law professor laurence tribe. Plus, barack obama settles scores in his new book. We will ask our sunday panel about the former president s thoughts on the rise of donald trump. And our power player of the week, remembering game show legend alex trebek and the fun we had on jeopardy. Do you dumb it down force liberties chris all right now on on fox news sunday. Chris angelo again again from fox news in washington. The coronavirus is coming back with a vengeance with every state in the nation now reporting increases. President elect biden has urged President Trump to do more to confront the crisis, calling the federal response woefully lacking. On friday, mr. Trump broke his recent silence on the pandemic to promote progress on a vaccine, but he still refuses to concede the election or coordinate with the biden team. In a moment we will speak with the cochair of the Biden Coronavirus Task force, former Surgeon General vivek murthy. We begin this hour with fox team coverage. Jacqui heinrich is tracking the president elect in delaware, but lets start with the thousands of Trump Supporters in the streets of washington this weekend. David spunt has that story from the white house. David. Chris, good morning, just this morning when referring to president elect joe biden, President Trump tweeted he won before falsely claiming the election was rigged. Still no formal concession from President Trump in the trunk faithful will not give up. On his way to the links saturday morning, the president drove through a crowd from across the country who came to the Nations Capital to show their support. Thousands marched from Freedom Plaza near the white house to the steps of the Supreme Court in outlook to voice frustration with the Election Results. This is the United States of america we are free and you are not taking it from us demonstrations continued into the night as far right and far left groups clashed. After a week hiatus from public remarks, on friday, the president announced a vaccine would be available to the majority of americans by april, but much sooner for those in need. The vaccine will be distributed to frontline workers, the elderly, and high risk americans immediately. It will be a matter of weeks, get out very much ahead of schedule. The announcement comes as the Washington Post reports at least 130 secret Service Agents assigned to the president have contracted covid19 or are quarantining as a result of exposure. On saturday, President Trump took another crack at a covid relief bill as infections rise nationwide in his time in the white house appears near an end. If the Trump Campaign continues to file legal challenges, though none have made a difference when it comes to the election outcome. Chris. Chris david spunt reporting from the white house, david, thank you. Now lets bring in Jacqui Heinrich in wilmington. Jacqui. Chris, president elect joe biden has more than four decades worth of friends in washington lining up for jobs in his incoming of administration and the jockey and has begun but more than a week after his projected win, the General Services Administration Still hasnt unlocked access to Fund Agencies and information needed to reach full speed are you any closer to making a cabinet decision . Yes. Expectations are rising for president elect biden to announce his secretary of state and sources tell fox news former National Security advisor susan rice is being pushed by former president barack obama. Rice, already vetted as a member of bidens vp shortlist brings Institutional Knowledge and clearances that could blunt the impact of delayed transition, but she warned of growing peril and a saturday oped, riding without access to critical threat information, no incoming team can counter what it cant see coming. Rice may face a confirmation hurdle in the senate and has competition in burma debbie terry secretary of the states only blink and add william burns, also senator chris coons is actively vying for the job, but team biden is also foot tapping over lost time engaging with federal agencies about coronavirus, especially with respect to testing and presentable vaccine description plans and they are considering legal action if things dont change soon. We are not interested in having a food fight with the administrator or anyone, really. Bidens Transition Team says they are on schedule, chipping away at nearly 4,000 appointed roles to fill, but this week they are opening some applications to everyday americans. Chris. Chris jacqui, thank you. And joining us now, dr. Vivek murthy, former Surgeon General and cochair of the biden transition covid task force. Doctor, the latest numbers on the covid surge are deeply alarming. Lets take a look at some of them. More than 184,000 new cases just on friday. Thats up 76 over the past two weeks, more than 68,000 people now in hospitals and more than 1400 deaths friday. Question, whats going on . Whats causing this really troubling search . Dr. Murthy well, chris, you are right that we are in an alarming phase of this pandemic. But these are staggering numbers that we never really thought we would see in terms of cases and hospitalizations, not to mention the overall death toll, but whats happening is that a couple things. One is we never really got our caseload down to a level that was truly manageable in the spring and we didnt actually have the testing and Contact Tracing to prevent subsequent rises and infection but whats happening now in particular is that with the winter as people move indoors, this is actually the perfect set up for the virus because we know it likes its easier to spread indoors and outdoors but theres one less component here which is really important, which is pandemic fatigue. People are tired. Weve been at this pandemic now for many months and i get that and part of that fatigue means that people are letting others into their bubble, they are getting together for in person dinner parties, for game nights and Public Health apartments are not tracing more and more cases back to these kinds of gatherings, so you put this altogether and you see the explosive spread that we have. Chris so, what is the Trump Administration doing wrong at this point given that a lot of this just seems to be baked into the cake and what specifically and i mean specifically with the Biden Administration do better . Dr. Murthy there are a few things for us to think about when addressing the current surge and one thing which emphasizes when you get to numbers that are this bad im of the most immediate thing that we can do to reduce the spread actually lies in our behavior and the choices that we make. It turns out that wearing masks, keeping her distance from others, washing our hands, these seem almost too simple im a but they a powerful and actually reducing the spread, but what Vice President what president elect biden is has talked about in terms of his plan, what he wants to do differently, what he wants to emphasize for day one, he really plans to focus on expanding our Testing Capacity so that we can do better surveillance, testing, diagnostic testing, but also increase our Contact Tracing for so we can contain infection once we find it. He wants to increase the production of ppe or protective equipment so our Health Care Workers all have masks and gloves when they need it and he wants to really put clear guidance together, evidencebased guidance so that schools and businesses, but also faith organizations, sports leagues, and families, know how to operate safely. Chris though, i should just say one more important thing here, which is none of this is going to be possible if we dont rebuild public trust. Thats really the most Important Foundation here. The way you do that is by communicating honestly, by leading with science and scientists in the face of this pandemic and ultimately by delivering results. Chris is the delay in the transition because President Trump is contesting the election is that delay hurting the ability of the Biden Administration to take over on january 20th in dealing with the covid pandemic . Dr. Murthy well, its very important, chris, for the transition to be able to talk to the existing and administration and the reason is there are thousands and thousands of career Civil Servants and political appointees who have been working very hard on this pandemic for many months now. They have plans that are in process. They have data that the public doesnt always have access to and to be able to see that data, see those plans, its whats going to help us put together the best possible product in the end, so those dialogues are critical. You want to get them started as soon as possible and theres a lot of work for us to do now still even though we dont have access to the departments, so we are going to need that as soon as possible to make this all work well. Chris one of the Big Questions of course is whether the country is going to have to engage in another lockdown. One of your colleagues on the covid task force, this talk this week about a possible 46 Week National lockdown and President Trump responded to that. Take a look. We can pay people to lose their jobs. We can pay small businesses, we can take care of cities, states and county governments. This admin instruction will not be going to a lockdown. Hopefully the dash whatever happens in the future, who knows which of administration will be, i guess time will tell, but i can tell you, this administration will not go to a lockdown. Chris president elect biden says hes not thinking of a National Lockdown. One of your colleagues on the Task Force Said this weekend youre thinking not of an on off switch but more of a dimmer period of having said that, the governor of new mexico just issued a two week stay at home measure, the governor of oregon is talking about a partial two week lockdown. Cant you honestly say if things get bad enough, arent we going to need a National Lockdown . Dr. Murthy well, thats a measure of last resort, chris and im glad you raised to this because the way we think about lockdowns i think is different now than it was in the spring. In the spring when we didnt know a lot about covid, we responded in a sense with an on off switch. We just shut things down because we didnt know exactly how this was spreading and where it was spreading. We learned a lot more sense than that tells us that the better way to think about these safety restrictions is more a dial that we turn up and down depending on severity, and thats really the key here. These judiciously and precisely. If you look at new york city for example they are applying not broader instructions everywhere but looking at specific zip codes to see where the outbreak is severe. At what we need, chris, and the reason that you see so much variation in what states are doing is that we dont have a National Alert system guided by the best possible evidence that can help states and localities determine when to dial up and down their restrictions and we also dont have adequate resources for them to put these restrictions in place, namely schools for example, which still dont have resources to expand class sizes, hire more teachers and improve ventilation. If we just lockdown the entire country without targeting our efforts, then we are going to exacerbate the pandemic fatigue people are feeling. Youre going to hurt jobs and the economy, youre going to shutdown schools and hurt the education of our children and we got to approach this with the position of a scalpel rather than the blunt force of an ax. Chris then there is the issue of the vaccine, which seems to be making remarkable progress. If President Trump on friday about getting it out as quicklys possible, starting perhaps even in december, but then he talked about Governor Cuomo of new york, who has said that he wants to check any vaccine the Trump Administration delivers. Take a look. President trump he doesnt trust the fact that its this white house, the said administration, so we wont be delivering it for new york until we have authorization to do so. Chris what do you think of President Trumps statements singling out new york for a delay in the vaccine and how does the biden transition, administration, plan to deal one with getting out the vaccine and also dealing with the issue of peoples concerned about the safety, the reliability of actually getting vaccinated . Dr. Murthy well, chris, youre bringing up one of the most challenging parts of this pandemic response, which is how to deliver that vaccine. You know, we vaccinated americans for many years in our country, but the campaign we are going to have to build to vaccinate enough people to create herd immunity in america will be the most ambitious Vaccination Campaign i believe that our countrys history. In doing that requires people to trust that this vaccine is safe and that its effective. Unfortunately we know from recent polls that a significant number of people are worried that the process of developing the vaccine and proving it may have been politicized, so now the onus is on us to be as transparent as possible in helping them understand what the science does say, having experts review the data, making that data readily available so that even people outside the government can review it. Thats what we are going to have to do and ultimately the way we allocate this vaccine is to be determined based on need and that and that alone we cant afford to let politics creep into decisions we make around the vaccine because otherwise we are going to put lives at stake. Chris dr. Murthy, thank you. Thanks for your time this weekend and we will of course be tracking the work of your task force. Dr. Murthy well, thank you so much, chris. Its really good to be with you today. Chris up next, we will discuss President Trumps legal fight to contest the 2020 election with two leading experts on constitutional law. Does the president have a case . Did you know that geicos whole 15 minutes thing. That came from me. Really. My first idea was in one quarter of an hour, your savings will tower. Over you. Figuratively speaking. But thats not catchy, is it . Thats not going to swim about in your brain. So i thought, what about. 15 minutes. 15 percent. Serendipity. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more on car insurance. Serendipity. Chris 12 days after the election, President Trump still refuses to concede or begin the transition to president elect biden. But so far at least his legal challenges to the vote count have had little success. If we want to discuss the state of play with two of the countrys top legal minds. Former independent counsel judge ken starr and laurence tribe, harvard constitutional law professor. Professor tribe, before we get into specific cases, what you think of President Trumps overall effort to litigate the election and to hold up the transition in the meantime . Professor tribe i think his overall effort is dangerous, even though we know its going to fail. The republicans themselves know that President Trumps claims that biden his votes were fraudulent are without merit. Because if those claims were true, then those republicans too would have been elected fraudulently or mistakenly, because they were the same ballots. Now, if we know that trump is going to lose in the courts, and we do, why should we care . The reason we should care is that is undermining democracy because there are millions of people who will believe him even though there is nothing in his arguments and no evidence to back them. Chris let me bring in judge starr. A department of Homeland Security committee, federal state and local officials issued a statement this week. I want to put some of it up on the screen. They called the election the most secure in American History and said there is no evidence that any Voting System deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised. Judge, what do you think of the president s effort to hold up the transition while he litigates the election vote counts . Judge starr its a very important process and what weve just heard from the distinguished professor tribe i think gives new meaning to rhetorical hyperbole. Our system is designed to check. Lets check it out and a lawsuit was filed just on wednesday in michigan. Lets let this process run. A lawsuit was just filed by the legendary lynwood in georgia. Dont mess with lynwood. Lets find out. In the United States, we allow the jury to hear all of the evidence, and thats whats happening right now. Dont rusk to judgment. Its important, especially given the fact that so many tens of americans feel right now disenfranchised. So lets get the facts in, allow this litigation to run its course just as in bush v gore, it ran for 37 days. Chris okay, judge, it is now 12 days since the election, what is the best single case that you think the Trump Legal Team has out there and would it be of a sufficient dimension would it switch enough votes in that one state to overturn the vote count in the electoral vote in that state to judge starr well, lets just take michigan. The loss of that was filed and again, we have two left lawsuit run its course the lawsuit, if it is meritorious, thats the if, we need to know, would change over 1 million votes. In georgia, ditto, and of course georgia itself has a state audit underway. At that is exactly right, there will be a recount in georgia. If you take all these together, pennsylvania, allegations in pennsylvania, these are allegations. What we do know is in pennsylvania, Justice Samuel alito indicated im going to embellish her, utterly unconstitutional. And weve seen changes, including gavin newsom in california, just condemned by a state court for doing what he did, this unprecedented flood of mailin ballots. All of the more reason why in this election we need to check. Chris president president professor tribe, ive got president s on the mind these days, you say that President Trumps lawsuits are less than frivolous. Is there any legal merit to what youve just heard the judge say . Professor tribe absolutely none. He says that what i have saying gives new meaning to hyperbole. What hes been saying gives new meaning to, dare i say it, b. S. If there is nothing in any of these lawsuits. He says let the jury speak. The jury of an unprecedented magnitude, 160 million americans has spoken. If you can File Lawsuits until the cows come home. And theres no end to it, but its nothing like bush v gore. There they were recounting, not just counting. And there was a 537 vote margin and when the u. S. Supreme court said its time to stop the recounting in accord with the law of florida, i didnt agree with that number but that at least was a legal judgment. Whats being asked for now is simply to undermine the belief of tens of millions of people in the conclusion that President Trumps own department of Homeland Security reeks. After looking more closely than any of these courts possibly can, at all the ballots, all the processes and concluded that it was the most secure election in American History. Its time to move on. We know that trump wont. Hes going to be out there yelling, screaming, and complaining. Chris gentlemen, let me ask you about another possible legal strategy that we know that President Trump has actually discussed, and the idea would be to tie up the recounts, the vote counts in several states so that the secretaries of state in those various states would not be able to certify electors, and then the argument goes that state legislatures, in these cases, republican state legislatures, could step in and they could certify trump electors, and override the will of the people in that state who had elected, by a majority, biden electors. Whether you think thats going to happen or not, judge, is that constitutional . Judge starr well, the legislature does have the ultimate authority as we know under the constitution to determine how the electors are chosen. However, in each of the states theyre going to be state laws that cabin that discretion and ive seen that a number of republican legislatures in different states, at least for states, have said we would not do any such thing, so i think its more of a theoretical possibility. If i may respond just very briefly to what larry said earlier, im really astonished that his view is ever one of those votes is a legal vote. And i think thats the underlying assumption, and that assumption needs to be tested. We have this unprecedented use, this flood tide of mailin ballots and what we do know, everyone has heard if his or her ears are open, anecdotal evidence, anecdotal, not proof, anecdotal evidence that people who should not have received those ballots received them. If lots of stories. Lets test the stories as opposed to dismissing them and then saying with all due respect that this is a dangerous process. No, this is a lawful process. This is to bring the rule of law into the election process and then lets accept the judgment of the courts once the court several buried larry may be right, but [indiscernible]. Chris professor tribe, really two questions there. First, mine, which is this idea of state legislatures coming in and overwriting the will of the people in that state and in these cases where biden is ahead, choosing trump electors rather than biden electors, and also if you could respond to the judge. Professor tribe sure varied as to the first, i think judge starr pretty much had it right. Its the state legislatures that make careers, they are not going to risk their own political future by trying to override the overwhelming views of their own constituents and besides, the state legislature is it self creature of state law and those state laws, the governors have veto power. As to the point that judge starr has just made about these anecdotes, ive heard the anecdotes. When they are tested in court, everyone of us had been shown empty or has been withdrawn. There are cases all over the country of people saying i made a mistake. So the fact is that these anecdotes have already been tested in court. The Trump Legal Team is about 1 for 19 in terms of outcome. Lets get on with it. We had a peaceful succession ever since adams turned the presidency over to jefferson. Its time to move on and i dont think judge starr as ever answer the point that it undermines democracy to get tens of millions of people to believe in a Conspiracy Theory that is empty. Chris gentlemen, think of we are going to have to leave it there. Judge starr, professor tribe, thanks for your analysis and of course we will all be watching as the legal battle continues. Thank you, gentlemen. Up next, we will bring in our sunday group to discuss the risk posed to the biden transition. Plus, the president s pentagon purge. Chris coming up, President Trump holds out on conceding as he pursues a legal fight over Election Results. My hope and expectation is that the American People do know, do understand that there has been a transition. Chris we will ask our sunday panel how a delayed transition could affect National Security. Look, lets not kid ourselves, this holiday is gonna feel different. But after the year we just had, what if less gives us more . Time with loved ones. Help for you, and the planet. Or simply a chance to kick back and relax, recharge, and refill. Only you know what you need this holiday. And whatever it is, we can probably help. How can i, when you wont take it from me you can go your own way xfinity mobiles fast nationwide 5g network meets the first iphone with 5g. Get the new iphone 12 on xfinity mobile. And right now get 250 off. Learn more at an xfinity store today. President trump is 100 within his rights to look into allegations of if you live regularities and weigh his legal options. Well, i just think its an embarrassment, quite frankly. Chris president elect biden and Senate Majority leader mcconnell with very different takes on the Trump Campaigns legal challenge to the vote count in several states. And its time now for our sunday group. Guy benson of fox news radio. A fox news correspondent gillian turner, a former member of the National Security council and to both president s bush 43 and obama and former dnc chair donna brazile. Guy, publicly, the vast majority of our republican are giving President Trump the time and space to litigate the vote counts in several states. The question i have is, privately, are some of these same republican officials beginning to lose their patients with the trump effort . I wouldnt necessarily use the term lose their patients, but i think theres an acknowledgment in private that the election is over and joe biden has won it. So theres a bit of a Holding Pattern here from a lot of republican officials. They dont want to cross the president , they dont want to get out in front of the president and say its over, time to concede, lets all move on, but youre hearing them say things like okay, perhaps these briefings ought to take place now and it seems like the president has a few times gotten sort of close to the line of acknowledging what happened and on friday in his press conference he caught himself, he almost said i hope the Biden Administration doesnt go into lockdown, and then he stopped and said i hope whatever happens in the future, we will see what happens, right . And we saw the tweet earlier talking about how biden had won and the moments ago he sort of backtracked saying thats only in the eyes of the media. I think that many, many republicans dont want to infuriate trumps base, they dont want to get side was with the president but i think its clear what has actually happened here. Chris then there is, as you mentioned, the delayed transition, which is stopping president elect biden from is getting his president ial daily brief and stopping me biden transition, the teams in general from getting access to classified information. Republican senator James Lankford spoke out on that this week. Take a look. There is no loss from him getting the briefings and to be able to do that and if thats not occurring by friday, i will step in as well to push and say this needs to occur so that regardless of the outcome of of the election, which ever way that it goes, people can be ready for that actual task. Chris gillian, is there a legitimate National Concern here about the delay in the biden transition getting access to some of this information . So, chris, i have yet to talk to a Single Source this week at dod, serving in the military, interNational Security policy space, or in the Intelligence Community who says they think this is a good idea, that the Trump Administration blocking the incoming Biden Administration from getting access to classified documents is a good idea, or one that makes the nation less safe. To the contrary, they are all lining up down the road saying this is not a good thing, it makes the biden presidency less prepared to protect the homeland from day one. I will also say that having worked on the last transition between the W Bush Administration to the obama administration, i was in the white house than at the National Security council, we started prepping classified briefings for the incoming National Security team more than six months out. It thats widely to be the gold standard. This aint that. Chris donna, president elect biden has been playing down the fact hes not getting these daily intelligence briefings, saying it would be helpful, but its not necessary. However, his new white house chief of staff, ron klain, took a sharper tone this week. Take a look. He is entitled under the statute to get those kinds of briefings. Entitled to get those kinds of briefings, and hopefully they will be forthcoming very soon. Chris donna, privately, how angry, how frustrated is the biden team with the fact that they cant get going on this transition . Well, as you recall, chris, during the long saga of 2000 that i was involved in as Campaign Manager for al gore, thenpresident clinton began to offer briefings to the incoming president , george w. Bush. I think its vital that president elect biden and his team have access to this information for the same reasons gillian just said. This is about our security, the National Security of the entire United States. Yes theres a degree of frustration but i can tell you this based on my conversations with transition officials, they are moving full speed ahead. They have assembled a very, very experienced team of people to begin working expeditiously, but there waiting for the gsa to turn over the keys. Chris gillian, there was also a dramatic shakeup this week at the pentagon. President trump fired defense secretary esper and two of his under secretaries also were forced out, replaced by hardcore trump loyalists. Whats going on there . Is this just a question of retribution for people who were blocking the trump agenda, or do you think its clearing the way for some dramatic policy moves in these last two months . Its the latter according to sources for working at the pentagon, activeduty military military right now, today, the mass purge is less about political retribution from President Trump and it is allegedly more about seeing through some of his Core Campaign commitments from four years ago specifically. We are told at replacing the secretary of defense with acting secretary chris miller and then below him bringing Doug Mcgregor as sort of righthand man is specifically aimed at getting all american troops out of afghanistan in the next two months. This is something we are told the president is deeply, deeply committed to. Whether he can actually make this happen in the next two months and do it safely remains to be seen, but we are told, chris, by multiple sources, also not just me, ive been working with Jennifer Griffin and others on the story all week, this is a very specific policy aim, these moves, likewise, so to the purges over the Intelligence Community. Chris gillian turner, let me follow up with you on that. One, ive talked to a top pentagon source this week who said they very much doubted we could get our 4500 troops out between now and january 20th and that raised serious questions about it saying saying it would really weaken our ability to negotiate a deal with the taliban and to protect the afghan government, so first of all, what about the merits of pulling out all of our troops from afghanistan before the end of the trump presidency, and the second thing is they talked about the possibility that this was clearing the way for whether it was the u. S. Or israel, an attack on Irans Nuclear structure. So i think both things are correct, chris. There are serious questions, as your source told you, about the ability to pull out so many troops, just under 5,000, in a few weeks, but people tell us despite this this is something that President Trump and his core team of inner advisors is really intent on doing they believe that if there is any iota of getting it done but they now have the people in place who can facilitate it. It whether it sets up the Biden Administration in a good way to prepare them to protect the homeland and the National Security interest in the middle east remains to be seen. On the iran nuclear issue, the biden team is basically set as of now they are going to try and rejoin the iran nuclear deal. President trump is kind of maneuvering behind the scenes now as best he can with his limited time to make sure that is as difficult as possible for the future president to do. Chris all right, panel, we need to take a break but when we come back, Barack Obamas new book and his claim that President Trumps refusal to recognize over Election Results is putting democracy to the test. Theres no bad time to start at amazon. I like the flexibility. It also allows for picking up shifts. Safety comes first, speed comes second. Safety. Safety. Safety. Were making sure that somebody is getting their very important items. It makes me very happy. Look, lets not kid ourselves, this holiday is gonna feel different. But after the year we just had, what if less gives us more . Time with loved ones. Help for you, and the planet. Or simply a chance to kick back and relax, recharge, and refill. Only you know what you need this holiday. And whatever it is, we can probably help. The president doesnt like to lose and never admits loss. Republican officials who clearly no better are going along with this, are humoring him in this fashion. It is one more step in delegitimizing not just the incoming Biden Administration, but democracy generally. Chris barack obama beginning the tour to launch his new book with sharp words about the refusal of President Trump and Top Republicans to concede the 2020 election, and we are back now with our panel. Donna, what do you expect from barack obama on whats going to be a pretty big and exhausting book to her, both in terms of settling scores with donald trump and in terms of Building Support for president elect biden . Well, i think is going to do the latter first. Hes going to try to help joe biden. Heal the country, to bring the country together. What he saying in the book is that our challenges are deep. Our divisions are deep, our challenges are daunting, but yet he remains faith hopeful in this next generation. I think its a very prophetic book. Look, [indiscernible] the audacity of hope, this is a road map to the future. Once again the president is weaving his own journey, a really a wonderful journey into a narrative that shapes the america the creed, the future, and i think its a good read and im looking forward to seeing everything in this book, including the photos that im sure many of us will be surprised to see, but overall, this is an opportunity to help reshape this dialogue about bringing the country together. Chris guy, from what weve seen so far though there is some score settling in obamas book. I want to read this excerpt, rather extensive excerpt. It was as if by their presence in the white house had triggered a deepseated panic, a sense that the natural order has been disrupted, which exactly what donald trump understood when he started peddling assertions that i had not been born in the United States and was thus an illegitimate president. For millions of americans spooked by a black man in the white house, he promised an elixir for their racial anxiety. Guy, do you think thats a fair analysis . I think that this is, what, the third book by obama about obama with apparently fourth one still to come. This one clocks in at 800 pages almost, so theres a lot to say, apparently im a from the former president and i can understand why he bristles at President Trump, for a number of reasons. I think the birther stuff he has legit beef there. If i think a lot of it though is President Trump won in what really amounts to a repudiation in a lot of ways of the obama presidency. He was expecting his successor, hillary clinton, to carry on his legacy. Instead it was disrupted in a very serious way and the president , the current president was able to dismantle a lot of what obama did because obama so often governed by fiat and you could just undo it with executive orders, a lot of what the former president had done, the previous president barack obama, so i think theres definitely score settling here. I read another excerpt where he was complaining about Senate Republicans and again sort of playing the race card there and said i dispatched joe biden to talk to them because they didnt want to make it seem like they were doing a deal with me because im, you know, a black rumored muslim is what he says in the book and many republicans on the senate side that ive spoken to this week cannot roll their eyes hard enough at that version of events. Chris gillian, one of the things that has surprised me is that so far President Trump, who we know has his finger on the twitter trigger, has not responded to any of what weve seen so far from barack obama. Do you expect that to last, or is this going to end up, particularly with obama on 60 minutes tonight, is this going to end up i in a president ial war of words . If i had to put money on it i would bet, chris, that President Trump is really itching to punch back and will do so imminently. I was trying to think of reasons why he might not have done so already and the only thing i can come up with is that president obama is right now kind of getting back out on the campaign trail, right . So hes been out there much more lately. He is a lot of attention to what president were former Vice President biden did during his admins duration. The president doesnt want to focus on that. He doesnt want to draw attention to the fact that former president obama has very high Approval Ratings among his own party, among the democrats right now. Maybe thats why the president is staying silent . This is my guess, my two cents, so its probably worth about 1 cent, but there you have it. Chris it would also boost book sales and communal hes been advising a number of these critical books to stay silent on it, but having said that, thats never stopped him in the past. Donna, in the time we have left, i want to turn to another subject. It looks almost certain, i think all of us agree, that president elect biden will take the oath of office on january 20th grade i think it also is very likely i know youre going to push back here, but dont just for the sake of this that the republicans are going to keep control of the senate. I understand it comes down two races, special elections in georgia, but the likelihood is that Mitch Mcconnell is the Senate Majority leader in january. Question, if that is the case, President Biden, a republicanhealth senate, how much will that curtail biden his plans for his cabinet, and bidens plans for his agenda . Well, first of all, the democrats must leverage all of their political power, whether in the house and the white hou white house. Clearly Mitch Mcconnell is going to continue to be a key player. His been a key player since 2006. He said in 2,000 i believe 2009, 2010, that is only objective was to make barack obama a oneterm president. Barack obama won a reelection. He has worked with joe biden in the past. He worked with joe biden on a tax deal. Hes worked with joe biden before our nominations. I do believe that he that the two of them have a great relationship. They know each other, theyve known each other for 40 years. I believe that the democrats will be able to work with Mitch Mcconnell on a couple of issues, including infrastructu infrastructure, keeping the government going and maybe lower prescription drugs, health care, and some other issues. Chris guy, i will be curious to hear your reaction to this from a more conservative perspective. How hard do you expect mcconnell and republican senators to go after President Biden . For instance, just on the cabinet, how hard do you think that they will refuse if biden were to nominate people like Elizabeth Warren for treasury or Bernie Sanders for labor or susan rice for the state department . I actually think that joe biden might not be totally horrified at the idea of a Republican Senate so he doesnt have to pick people that he doesnt really want to put in his cabinet and blame it on the republicans. I think susan rice, if shes put up, i think would be more likely than the other two names that you mention. I think the republicans might draw a line there and have a big fight, but chris, despite your admonition, im just to say republicans cannot look past georgia. There is still a legitimate chance that democrats could win the senate and have full control of the government and a 50 50 senate is a Kamala Harris senate, a Chuck Schumer senate for conservatives, anyone right of center, that has to be priority number one. So im not willing to look past the fifth of january at because there is an absolutely crucial task yet to be accomplished down in georgia and as we just seen, a democrat can compete if not win statewide in that state as joe biden has just shown. Chris 30 seconds, donna. What are the chances well youre not going to what are the chances realistically that democrats can flip those two seats in georgia . Its an uphill battle but theres a map there because Stacey Abrams invested early, the democrats are back in her and all of the other down ballot organizations that are helping her. As a great chance that the democrats can take that purple state and turn it blue. Chris so, for those of you who are already exhausted by this never ending election campaign, we have two more months until january 5th when the special elections take place in georgia. Thank you, panel. See you next sunday, plenty to talk about as we go forward. Up next, our power player of the week. We remember alex trebek and his presence in millions of americans living rooms for more than three decades. Wild thing, you make my heart sing wild thing i. Think i. You know what i think . I think you owe us 48. 50. Wild thing. If you ride, you get it. Geico motorcycle. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Chris last week we were saddened by the news that alex trebek, the longterm host of the game show jeopardy had died at age 80. But it was more than the loss of someone we all enjoyed watching because in 2012 i was invited to be on the show and got to spend some time with its legendary host. Once again, hes our power player of the week. If i can ring in with my ballpoint pen faster than the contestants and come up with a correct response before they do, im feeling pretty good. Chris alex trebek, talking about the appeal of watching jeopardy. If this is jeopardy chris the show he hosted for more than a thousand episodes over almost 37 years. As for what makes a good contestant ashley. On our show they do well because of their intelligence and their skills in their gameplaying abilities. Chris that was of great interest because jeopardy came to washington back in 2012. Read the final the scores at the end of the double jeopardy round. Chris two to five shows with socalled power players, including me. Trebek gave me a few pointers. Keep in mind that youll see it up there and youll hear it as i read it, so its reinforcing and im just seeing it . If i hit this, it lights up . Yes, and you must respond before the last light goes out. Chris it turns out the signaling device is as important as knowing the answer. You cant ring in until i have read the last syllable of the last word in the clue. And if you ring in a fraction of a second too early, youve locked yourself out for a fraction of a second. Chris i learned all this the hard way during my practice game with dr. Oz and bbc anchor caddy k. Were some ops. One fifth of this [indiscernible]. Chris and downs. One of the joys of jeopardy is how little its changed over more than three decades. But there was a firestorm in 2001 when trebek shaved his mustache on a whim. Thank you, johnny. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. We are on the verge of war and get there is so much being made of alec shaved his mustache. Chris you seem as if you know all the answers to all the questions. Do you doubt that i know . Chris do you dumb it down for celebrities . In fact he said he could get about twothirds of the questions right and as he got older, he admitted they didnt come as quickly to him. People who come to our tapings often ask how would you do, alex, if you were a contestant on the show . And i tell them honestly, a good 30yearold would clean my clock. Chris trebek had other interests. He was deeply involved in world vision which built schools and provides health care and clean water in third world countries. He was 71 when we talked. Chris any thoughts of retirement . Yes, i have been thinking about retiring, but im torn because i enjoyed doing the show so much. A lot of people have been telling me alex, youve got to go for at least 30. Youve done 28 now, at least are two more, so that has a nice ring to it. Put in your 30 and go help people. Chris of course trebek never retired and once on to set the Guinness World record for hosting the most episodes of a game show. Including the one i will never forget, winning 50,000 for charity eight years ago. In a long career, that was one of the highlights. And thats it for today. Have a great week and we will see you next fox news sunday. Give you my world how can i, when you wont take it from me you can go your own way xfinity mobiles fast nationwide 5g network meets the first iphone with 5g. Get the new iphone 12 on xfinity mobile. And right now get 250 off. Learn more at an xfinity store today. President trump admitting defeat for the first time though he is still not conceding. More unfounded allegations of a fraudulent election. More coronavirus restrictions in the bay area this week. 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