Transcripts For KTVU FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace 2024

Transcripts For KTVU FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace 20240712

Wouldve the latest on the case from Minnesota Attorney general Keith Ellison. We will discuss how to heal the divide between the black community and Law Enforcement with andy skoogman, head of the minnesota chiefs of police. And why in the year 2020 is race still such a flash point . We are joined by professor cornel west and South Carolina senator tim scott. Then, twitter tags the president s tweet on how to stop the minneapolis riots for glorifying violence. We wile new battle between the president and big attack. And our power player of the week. This authors new work of fiction hits close to home. The question was, what would happen if we had a pandemic . Chris all right now now on fox news sunday. Chris angelo again from fox news in washington. A nation already on edge now pushed to the brink. The coronavirus claiming more than 100,000 lives and some 40 million jobs, and now the video recorded death of an unarmed black man in Police Custody acting like a match tossed on a tinderbox. Tens of thousands taking to the streets overnight in more than 75 cities across the country. As some protests turn violent, the National Guard was deployed and curfews were imposed in more than two dozen cities. The most at one time since the civil unrest of the 1960s. That is our focus this hour. In a moment we will talk with Minnesota Attorney genera says about race in america in 2020, first lets bring in matt finn in minneapolis with the latest on another night of protests across the country. Chris, theres been a seemingly endless cloud of acrid smoke youre in minneapolis, a combination of fires and teargas. The city has been under siege, but it appears that Law Enforcement might have finally gained some ground overnight. A fifth straight night of protests in minneapolis met by a much Stronger Police presence. Rioters violated the curfew and clashed with officers once again, even shooting at them. Youre not getting back at the Police Officer that tragically killed george floyd by eluding a town. In indianapolis, Police Investigating multiple shootings amid the protests, including one that left a person dead. In new york, protests and all five boroughs, some turn to violence. Nypd squad cars set on fire. Molotov cocktails thrown at police. A state of emergency declared in los angeles where the unrest invoked memories of rodney king. The mayor asking for National Guard assistance after initially resisting using troops. In the nations capital, protests once again in front of the white house, defying the president s claim on twitter that protesters could face vicious dogs if they cross the fence. And in an extraordinary move, the pentagon has said its ready to provide military support should minnesotas governor request their assistance. So far he has not. Chris. Chris matt finn reporting for minneapolis. Matt, thank you. And joining us now, minnesotas attorney general, Keith Ellison. Mr. Attorney general, over the last five days, we have seen the police station, force the National Guard to retreat and loot neighborhoods. On saturday, heres what attorney general barr had to say. Groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda. Chris do you have evidence that people from outside minnesota, whether its far left extremists or white supremacis supremacists, that outsiders are hijackings riots in minneapolis . Mr. Ellison we have evidence that outsiders have been present and in some cases have played a very negative role, but ive been talking with protesters and trying to get a sense of who some of these folks are and ive heard mixed things. Some of the negative stuff has come from people in minnesota and some of it has come from people on the outside. What i would say is weve got enough to handle on our own and that what we really need to do arson, does not help usr achieve that goal. Chris on friday, you urged the people of minneapolis not to react to the National Guard in the streets the way they would to local police. I want to put up something you said. Please or member that this is not the group that you associate with unfair authority. Question, do blacks in minneapolis have reason to distrust or even to fear their local police . Mr. Ellison sadly, yes, there is a history that has been repeated time and time again. I want to say that many officers are great people, i know so many of them and i think the chief is an extraordinary person and the mayor and the deserve a l him, t it is an endemic problem in the Minneapolis Police department. One problem is our Police Federation president operates assorted alternative chief who i think undermines good order in the department. So we have our challenges in front of us. And i think that we can reform, we will reform and theres a lot of great officers who want to reform and its good to have a chief that wants to reform. Chris while you have been consistent in condemning the violence, on friday you quoted Martin Luther king saying riot is the way the unheard get heard. Are you suggesting that something good may come from the violence in the streets in minneapolis this week . Mr. Ellison no, the violence really is a negative thing. But i think what Martin Luther king was trying to say is rather than simply afters the outrage and the rage decades, really actually centuries of statesponsored oppression for africanamericans, lets look at the roots of that rage and try to address it rather than just pound it down with massive force. I mean, people are upset for a reason and to dismiss those reasons means we are going to be relegated to deal with them again and again and again. Actually it was john f. Kennedy who said where peaceful change is made impossible, violent change is inevitable. These are not statements about what they believe should happen, they are statements about what does happen. An spirit of the comment was. Chris i want to drill down on this specific case. The fired Police Officer Derek Chauvin was charged with thirddegree murder, not seconddegree murder, which has a much different penalty, seconddegree does. And the big difference has to do with what he intended to do, whether he intended to kill george floyd. I have to say were putting up the video now and its hard to see anything other anything questionable about his intent when he kept his knee on his neck for 9 minutes, including 3 minutes when he was no longer responsive. But i guess two questions. First of all, are you comfortable with the charge of thirddegree murder, which means he didnt intend to kill him, and secondly, how do you respond to the floyd family members, some of which are saying they would like to see you to go the prosecution of this case as a special prosecutor . Mr. Ellison well, let me say that we are very early in this process, very early. It is not uncommon to amend charges. It is not uncommon to add defendants. The investigation is still going on and it actually is in the middle of the investigation or maybe even the beginning of the middle, so i dont want anyone to conclude that these are all the charges that are going to be there. Ask people to be patient to have suffered so long and been denied justice so long is really asking a lot of them, but if you want to make sure that this case results in a successful prosecution, youve got to understand the Defense Attorneys were going to be on the other side are very skillful and they will try to break every single link in the prosecutorial chain, so i ask people, dont rush this thing, lets get this thing right. Remember, the walter scott jury hung. The rodney king jury came back acquitting the defendant or less. These cases which look so obvious to us watching videotape, you get them in a trial with some really good lawyers and things can go in a very different direction, so lets get this thing right. As it relates to my role, i am standing behind the process at this point in the process is that the county attorney has primary jurisdiction. I will say im always there to assist the cause of justice in any way that i can, but i am backing up Minnesota State law, which means that primary authority at this point is the state is the county. Chris finally, ive got a little over a minute left here, i need a quick answer, as attorney general, youre part of the power structure in minnesota and you have talked in the last few days about a deep dive reform. We are going to fix a broken society, but the fact is those were exactly the same things that were being said four years ago after a Police Officer shot and killed Philando Castile at a traffic stop and in fact, castile the officer who shot him was auit acquitted buried why should people in the community believe you anymore than the people who are making those same assurances four years ago . Mr. Ellison fair question. I will tell you that we did have a yearlong task force on preventing deadly force in cars with police. We issued a report in february. We had Law Enforcement, community, civil rights, we had people all over the state of minnesota. This is a really serious, deeplyrooted problem and im committed in the long term. I believe the commissioner of Public Safety, john harrington, and the governor is i will tell you, you know who called for change . Martin luther king called for. He was talking about Police Brutality back in the 60s. This problem is not a simple problem nor is it a localized problem. We all have to embrace change and move forward and maybe this can help us do it. Chris attorney general ellison, thank you, thanks for your time, sir, and its good to speak with you. Mr. Ellison thank you, si sir. Chris up next, we will talk with the head of minnesotas chiefs of Police Association about the use of force by Law Enforcement and how to prevent more unnecessary deaths. 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Chris Police Departments across the country are reviewing procedures after video showing the death of george floyd while in custody. Joining us now, andy skoogman, executive director of the minnesota chiefs of Police Association, which represents 300 Law Enforcement officials in that state. After this terrible incident this week you put out a statement that your association was appalled by Derek Chauvin, the Police Officers actions annual plot of the fact that the police chief in minneapolis fired all four of the officers involved in the incident. Why . Mr. Skoogman well, chris, good morning, thanks for the opportunity. I think when we spoke last week, you and i spoke, i think theres a national narrative, or there had been last week, that Police Officers in minnesota are being trained in the technique that Derek Chauvin used and that is simply not the case. Wit is the furthest from the truth. We did condemn the actions of the officer, not only the technique used by Derek Chauvin, but the lack of empathy shown by the other officers on the scene. We did commend the chief for minneapolis for his quick actions in terminating those officers and may be late lay folks dont understand but the ability to terminate an officer that quickly is unprecedented, it doesnt happen very much. So as attorney general Keith Ellison said in your previous segment, he is a phenomenal police chief and he did all the right here. What those officers did in that video, certainly not aligned with all the values that the chief of minneapolis has worked to instill over his tenure. Chris i want to pick up though because the Police Report that was filed after the incident said that george floyd, the man who was killed, resisted arrest and it also said that he died at the hospital when in fact it appears clear that he was dead at the scene. Those were both lies, which raises the question, if there had not been a video in this case, isnt it possible, even likely, that these four officers would still be on the street . Mr. Skoogman well, chris, i really am not privy to the details in the background of this investigation, so it is hard for me to say that, but you know, the videos ive said this for many years, ive been in this position for six and a half years, i believe that cell phone videos, i believe body worn cameras are Game Changers for Law Enforcement. They weed out the bad apples and they can be used to show great things that Police Officers are doing. Video is definitely the key in this case as it is in so many other cases in this day and age. Chris you know, everybody now is talking about reform and fixing things, fixing things with the police, fixing things with society. I want to put up something that you said, mr. Skoogman. I think Law Enforcement in general is looking for ways to do a better job of connecting with communities of color. You said that back in 2017 on the First Anniversary of the shooting of Philando Castile at that traffic stop that we showed in the last segment. Yet here we are and its 2020 and we have another case, apparently, of Police Brutality in the death of george floyd. So im not all the blame on you, but how much should people trust these claims, we are going to make things better, when we keep hearing it . Mr. Skoogman fair question. The attorney general Keith Ellison in your previous segment talked just briefly at the end about a working group here in minnesota that he and commissioner john harrington, the commissioner of Public Safety here in minnesota, they coshared a working group and got together last year, its a diverse group, including Law Enforcement stakeholders, community members, family members of individuals who had been shot and killed by Law Enforcement here in minnesota over a number of years. That working group was actually run by ron davis, who ran the cops office and the president obama administration. Hris i need to interrupt because we are short on time here. I can hear people watching this on tv right now and saying, good, we are glad you did the task force, all of that. George floyd is still dead. Mr. Skoogman absolutely, chris. Its entirely tragic. What we are trying to do is i think we just need to continue to work together. With got to get rid of this us versus them mentality. With got to continue the training that we put together in minnesota and across the country around implicit bias, training isnt everything but its certainly a start. We need to do a better job with Law Enforcement and communities of color about recruiting new officers. Im extrema concerned about the future of Law Enforcement across the country. We are seeing fewer and fewer people who want to be Police Officers, no matter what race they are and thats a huge problem. And i do about this is i believe that the arbitration process in our country needs to be changed. We have officers that violate public policy, they have a pattern of doing that, Police Chiefs and sheriffs try to fire them and our courts reinstate those jobs. A variety of angles, chris. Chris mr. Skoogman, thank you, thanks for sharing part of your weekend with us. Up next, we will hear from two leading africanamerican voices on the racial tensions playing out on americas streets. Professor cornel west on what can be done to heal the divide and republican senator tim scott on whether this racial flash flash point will turn out any differently. Its evident in good times, with decisions focused on the longterm. And crucial when circumstances become difficult. That continued emphasis on people our advisors, associates, clients and communities gives us purpose, strength and a way forward. Today. And always. Chris coming up, President Trumps new battle with big tech. Speak of the choices that twitter makes when it chooses to suppress and shadow band editorial decisions, pure and simple. Chris we will ask our center panel abo narrator here are aarp top tip

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