office is on the same corner. people inside hit the floor. >> it is ridiculous. i cannot believe this is real. >> a grieving classmate came to see what happened a block from his high school after class work -- let out. >> i just texted him a few hours ago. this is ridiculous. >> the scene here as police investigate the fatal shooting of a 17-year-old boy. the mac the first thing i heard, was the bank. there were four banks. >> it happened so fast that when they ran outside everyone was already gone. >> i heard voices. someone screaming. when they came out, i do not see anyone. >> the wounded victim ran and got over offense and then back onto the cone -- campus of the high school that he attended. he collapsed on the school quad and the janitor and others called for help. >> he was a student here. but again there is no information to say that this is school related. >> they shared little of the suspect other than the fact that two of them were in a dark- colored sedan and the shooter argued before firing multiple shots. >> we believe he was targeted by the passenger of the vehicle getting out and walking up to him. and then firing several rounds at him. >> i am angry and mad. i want to scream and cry. >> the owner of this real estate office says that anyone here could have been hit by the gunfire. one shot came through her wall. and her assistant and another agent drove under their desk. >> they heard a pop and she recognized the sound of the bulletholes. and she said get down so they got down. >> if you the victims friends scattered and ran into the office for safety. she is horrified that the teenager died. >> i feel angry and sick. i have a myriad of emotions especially with all of the shooting going on right now. i am just visibly shaken from this. >> they are reviewing surveillance video from the area they have no indication that the ambush was gang related. >> he was a good kid. he never do anything crazy like that. we don't do anything stupid he hang out with -- he hung out with me and my friends. >> they want to hear from witnesses. the three fence with the victim saw everything unfold. they are traumatized. but cooperating with police. grief counselors will be at olympic continuation high school tomorrow to support staff and students. >> thank you tabatha. it new information tonight about a possible motive in the killing of 26 people in a texas church. authorities are now saying the massacre appeared to stem from a domestic dispute between the gunman and his in-laws. >> we are there with what we've learned about the gunman's history and the mistake that allowed him to buy the gun to begin with. >> authorities from the air force announced today that they -- he had been court-martialed on charges of domestic violence for beating his wife and stepson cracking the taller skull. the air force admitted today that it never reported his conviction to the fbi database and that would've shown up in databases when he would've bought the gun. >> investigators say a are still notifying families of the 26 people killed. children as young as 18 months old to a 77-year-old. as well as a pregnant woman. they were all gunned down in sutherland springs on sunday -- sunday service. the shooter walked down the aisle and fired at least 450 rounds. >> as -- the scene and there is horrific. there's not any other word to describe it. >> frank pomeroy and his wife were out of town. >> we had a long night with our children. >> and neighbor saw the shooter, leaving the church. he fired at him. and he jumped into another man's truck to chase his vehicle into a crashed several miles away. >> he got into my truck and said he shot into the church. so we had to get him. and that's what we did. >> investigators say a found two handguns in the truck and a rifle in the church. an autopsy showed that he had been hit in the leg and torso by the citizen and had one self- inflicted gunshot to the head. fbi says that he purchased guns and past eight criminal background system. >> they did the required checks and there was no prohibited information. nothing in the system that we checked is that he could not of purchase that firearm. >> the youth -- u.s. air force as he should have been banned from buying a gun because of a court-martial for domestic violence in 2012. he was discharged for bad conduct. on monday they stated they had made a mistake not reporting it to the fbi. >> this is not a guns situation. we could go into it, but it is a little soon to go into a. this is a mental health problem at the highest level. it is a very sad event. >> some say that this case also points to an inconsistency between reporting of military crimes and signaling crimes. it should be addressed in the national database. >> when someone is released for bad conduct they should be put into the prohibited participated database for certain types of crime. in this case that was not done. >> as for motive, they did confirm the mother-in-law attended the church and had been get in -- and had been receiving threatening text messages. a eunice senator was reacting to the massacre for -- by calling for stricter gun control measures. she tweeted that the tragedy that happened in texas has become too routine in america. we pray for those recovering and we must also commit ourselves to action. it to mark guns belonging to bay area law enforcement are now missing and likely in the hands of criminals. a sheriff sergeant was attending fbi terrorism task force meeting, in san francisco tenderloin district. someone broke into his unmarked car and stole a shotgun, rifle, ammunition and a bulletproof vest. jerry hill who wrote legislation requiring officers to secure unattended handguns says that law enforcement should know better. >> the law that i had the governor assign a place to hang is only. but, you cannot legislate common sense. you either need to know what the right thing to do is or not know it. and in this case they are not getting message. >> the sergeant who has at least 15 years with a sheriff's office mains on duty. since 2010, for guns belonging to the sheriff's deputies were lost or stolen. only one of those guns has been recovered. the biggest convention of the year is underway in sam cisco. dream force 2017 brings tens of thousands of visitors to the city and also brings big-name speakers. paul chambers is in sever cisco tonight with the convention hosted by salesforce where it has closed streets. >> thinks have wrapped up here behind us for tonight but it will be packed tomorrow. this will be a week full of celebrities and political power houses. today was day one of the four day conference. and it kicked off here with the keynote speech. >> as you walk it to the 15th annual dream force conference one of the main venues has been transformed into a forest. >> going all in to make sure everyone feels the theme. >> is the national park. they use the largest tech employer here to transform the middle into the dream valley. this is where more than 170,000 attendees will get the chance to enjoy music, watch features and climb the wall. all in the middle of downtown. you would not recognize one of the busiest street here. park benches and green turf were used to convert a tower street to a third and fourth for the next few days. >> it is amazing to see a busy street like this, with lots of people and fantastic. >> what other city do you see any conference taking over an entire street? >> was such a large attendance security has been wrapped up. special canines are at each entrance, and a steel -- and still barricades to prevent people from driving through. those reporting to the event is all about business. >> the execution is to take back technology and how we can revel -- leverage it within the organization. also taking back the opportunity to impact our community with this technology. >> taking a lot of identity these ideas on how a lot of companies have implement of these ideas. and how they used salesforce to make their business better. >> last year the four-day conference was a tremendous boost to the economy. nearly $280 million in total business. those numbers may be even larger this year. >> this is my seventh dream force. it just keeps getting bigger every year. >> and that is so true. some people we expect to speak this week. former first lady michelle obama. and jenna and barbara bush as well. there will also be a big conference tomorrow, at at&t ballpark. that is with lenny kravitz and also alicia keys expected to raise money for you cfs for the children's hospital. they expect $10 million raised. another week and another opportunity for rain and snow in the mountains. i will have the details enough five-day forecast coming up. the search is on for two escaped inmates. investigators say a managed to break free from the restraints at a courthouse in palo alto. the sheriff's office tweeted out this picture of a key that they likely used to get out of the shackles. it was found on the ground outside the court building. ann rubin reports, that the escapees are both suspects in an armed robbery at a verizon store. >> authority say these men, escaped from the courthouse in palo alto this morning. the two, were suspects in an armed robbery where they got out of the restraints and ran from the deputy who was escorting them. emac it appears that they were able to come out of the courtroom and into the hallway. they were able to get to one of the exit points. at which point, there was a car waiting for them. >> they apparently ditched that car a toyota camry if you yards away. trading it for a u-haul cargo van. sheriff's office which oversees inmates call this a well orchestrated plan. >> what it speaks more to his levels to get station of this inmates. and -- the level of sophistication of these inmates. >> they had been in court for a hearing. they were accused in the arm robbery of a verizon store in february. visitors to the courthouse say that they are surprised that they got away so easily. >> it was an emergency exit door. you cannot come into that door. but anyone can go out of it. it sets off the alarm. so boom. the alarm goes off and they go off running. >> someone was not doing their job. and they need to change something. because those doors were too close. someone was not doing their job. >> for now they're focused on finding the inmates and returning them to the correctional center. but they say in the coming days they will be reevaluating policy to see how this could've happened. >> i think going forward, we will be monitoring our policies and practices to see what we can improve. >> authorities are not sure whether they had an accomplice in the getaway vehicle. they are considered dangerous. anyone that sees them can -- needs to call 911. uber is making a $5 million investment to prevent sexual assault. there have been high profile accusations of sexual harassment. the san francisco-based company says it will partner with a number of community groups on training for its employees which includes hiring customer service agents to deal with sexual assault reports. to student at uc berkeley say's they have concern over divisive political propaganda which motivated them to create a program to find bots operating on twitter. we are here talking with the students about how it works. >> frank, the 220-year-olds are juniors here at uc berkeley. they say that issues such as possible russian interference in our presidential election led them to take action. >> in the rapid home they found a way to identify false or misleading links as stories on twitter. their goal is to improve our nations devices political climate. >> it is something that keeps us awake at night. we've been spending the eight days past eat -- past eight weeks working on this. >> they noticed many automated accounts putting out inflammatory misinformation. they can news. >> it is bigger than we thought it was. >> they said they became concerned when they saw suspects it the suspected accounts on twitter they wanted to help other users identify the propaganda. >> the possibilities that a foreigner could be influencing the way americans think is scary. >> those a bot account includes a short history but a long list of followers. constant retreats and little or no original contents. >> this is a huge deal. and frankly, it compromises the security of our own social media and opinions. >> they created an algorithm that enables them to and steal a botched check button that will help determine if your tweet becomes to an account from a human and not an automated account or one that has been hacked. the students a they reached out to twitter twice via email. saying we feel this is a problem. it has led to the recent political discourse threatening the peace and harmony within our nation. we want to extend our help in any way that is needed. the students have not received a response from twitter. >> we want to give people the tool to understand when they are talking to a bots. >> we talked to -- contacted twitter but the policy says that you may not impersonate individuals, groups or organizations. particularly in a manner that misleads, confuses or misleads. >> you can go to their website to see how you can install it. they are developing an iphone app that will do the same thing. they expected to be ready and available in about two weeks. another seat -- ski season is about to get underway. 12 inches of fresh snow hit this weekend. with low temperatures in the forecast, the resort is planning to continue to make snow. it is scheduled to open november 17. other resorts are also making snow and getting ready to open soon. rain in the forecast, not for tomorrow, but for wednesday night. so here is the system that is out here it will stay out here and tomorrow is a nice day. plenty of sunshine and dry temperatures pretty cool when you start off tomorrow morning. look where it is now. 41 in novato. it is chilly when you get going. when you get going tomorrow morning, you will have temperatures in the mid-30s. maybe even frost near for seville. a beautiful night and cool. as you had to work you will need jackets. a nice day tomorrow afternoon a lot like today for the mid-60s. the rain will come into the picture as we head into wednesday night. thursday mornings commute might be a little wet. here is wednesday morning, and into the evening. here comes 5 pm. it is about increasing clouds by the afternoon commute showers in the north bay. by 10 pm showers across the central bay. and then, that is it. a thursday we get a few more scattered showers. so it is really all about wednesday night into thursday morning. maybe a quarter of an inch or half-inch in some places. the forecast high is mid 60s. these temperatures are cooler in there today. the five-day forecast that this up with unsettled patterns. it will enhance the snow up in the mountains. they will get about a foot and a half of snow. maybe even more. and we will be heading into the bay area tuesday, and wednesday. probably wednesday, thursday and friday actually. rainfall is in front of us. thank you bill. still ahead, our exclusive interview with the ghost ship warehouse suspect. but first president trump lives in south korea. bring more tension with north korea. ♪ ♪ it feels good to be back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ president trump has landed in south korea on the second leg of his 12 day trip to asia. the visit comes amid high tension with north korea. three u.s. aircraft carriers are expected to take part in military accident -- exercises while he is in south korea. the exercises are intended to demonstrate u.s. military strength in the face of threats from north korea which continue to move forward with its nuclear weapons program. wall street kicked off in positive territory. the s&p 500 was about 300. all three indexes closed at all- time highs. boosted by strength in text docs and positive corporate earnings. >> developing news from a long commute for 300 ferry passengers going from seven cisco to vallejo. it left the san francisco ferry terminal at 5:15 pm and experienced mechanical troubles. about 20 minutes into the trip. they tried to fix the problem but were unsuccessful. a tugboat finally showed up to assist them. a short time ago, five hours after leaving semper cisco, passengers finally arrived at the vallejo terminal. we just spoke to some of those rely -- arriving spoke -- arriving pastors and will have that for you in a moment. a middle school teacher is doing court first sought -- child sexual assault. michael bartel was placed on administrative leave from walnut creek intermediate school where he taught science. the case does not involve current students but reportedly involves to minors. the das office says it is multiple charges. arranging to meet a minor for sex and possession of child pornography among the charges. he's being held on $60 million bail. the sheriff department is looking for two girls who walked away from the youth facility in redwood city today. that happen at 1 am this morning. deonna harris is 13 years old and the von a covens was in a temporary housing facility for troubled youth. because of their age they are considered at risk. official say that the girls were headed to haywood. harris is wearing a blue hoodie and gray sweatpants with a bright pink backpack. coming sat on a black hoodie and gray sweatpants. in the exclusive community of blackhawk tonight there is a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of three burglary suspects. the blackhawk homeowners association have put up the money to find the suspects in a string of burglaries. the latest one happen friday night at 7:30 pm. three suspects entered a residence and took personal property and valuables. the suspects match the descriptions of those who committed previously -- previous burglaries. police have released new photographs of a woman wanted for assaulting people during a rally in the civic center. they show her without the mask that she was wearing. police hope someone will come forward and identify her. it happened on august 26 when hundreds of protesters gathered for an anti-hate rally. there is an auto correct error. some users type to type the letter i the auto correct feature changes it to a a and question mark elk apple has offered users a workaround which involves creating a new auto correct for the letter i in their phone settings. demanded the center of the ghost ship warehouse tragedy breaks his silence from behind bars. he tells to investigates that these who he thinks should be held accountable for the deadliest fire in oakland history. >> do you think they are painting unit unfaithful -- unfair way? >> there has to be something that they need to to handle that was unsafe. ♪ when you have doctors working as a team for your health, you get the care you need to help you thrive. ♪ visit kp.org to learn more. kaiser 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months. every night i go to bed, and thinking about everything that happened. wishing that i was there. because they're so much that i don't know about what happened. and it's really hard to deal with right now. >> our conversation started with him overwhelmed. an emotional. especially when talking about his three children. >> that's the most important thing. >> you talk to them? >> not really. i feel like i don't have the right to say anything. i can't qualify this. people bring me close and food and everything. i had to ask permission. i was destroyed. i reduced myself to this. just like you get through this. >> for the past five months he'd been living in a cell. segregated from the rest of the inmates. because staff was concerned he might be a target. >> i am innocent. i am innocent. and i am going to be in here for two years. for two years i could teach art and culture, i can share my stories but i'm not allowed. and then i go back i'm not allowed i know why i'm here. i understand, but i should not be here. do you understand? >> tell me more about that. >> i understand. there's a massive loss of life. i get that. >> you understand the public perception is bad? that you are to blame for these deaths? and that some public perception is that you don't understand that? but from what you're telling me is that you understand that you get it. that you get why this is happening. >> i don't get that. i see this is being a very modern problem in the media with facebook and all of these different things that are causing these problems with the heckling and bickering to such a degree that the media was at such a loss of true information and understanding. instead of doing their jobs, they just harvested the cream of the top. of the internet and all of that. and they presented that is an actual story. it is affecting my life and my children's life to the degree that i'm guilty with 36 tally marks printed in magazines and websites. pictures of me next to jim jones and charles manson. taking a word from a poem and comparing it to a word the charles manson used 40 years ago. this is disgusting. i was designed to be this guy right now. >> his wife micah and three kids stayed at a hotel the night of the party. after learning he pasted a facebook message saying everything i worked so hard for is gone. he quickly got criticism from those who found it insensitive. >> i want to ensure that the world knew the kids were safe. so everyone knows what i said. and, i didn't know anyone who perished until 3:00 in the morning. no one told me that 50 people as soon as i heard that i got in my car rushed over there. and then the police and the fire department are telling me that there were 50 people there are like 100 people in there. at that point, these questions are like a relevant. who were the people that were there? at that moment i didn't know who any of those people were. i didn't have faces or anything to put with them. children and friends, i did not know any of them until i got there. and then the police told me. so i am still in that moment right there. >> tell me more about the warehouse. there was a perception that it was meth. and full of junk and trash. >> i definitely have to say, that if you go to any construction site, until that building is done, there will be an organized mass. you will have that. in the beginning, i was going out and i would bring in the yard and take it off the fender with the hubcap. and there will be a little mess. that is like any warehouse. that's why we have a warehouse with a giant yard. so, there was always a process of the debris. that is what they are talking about. >> he said cps places children with his mother and sister in la at one point. he and his wife had to complete court ordered classes and clean up the warehouse. >> for cps to try -- take my children back and give us awards saying that we are awesome. we didn't believe you and we checked your story and you were artists and had beds in the kitchen and bathroom and all of that. and you have this deuce -- studios. and all of this workshop. the digital arts live. what was going on was just amazing. >> they saw all of that. they sought everything. they had to walk through everything to check it all out. >> it wasn't a secret. >> this whole misconception that we were hiding and sneaking around. it is disgusting. >> your landlords know that you and your family were living there? >> definitely. >> i feel like this is my one chance to describe everything and tell everybody how amazing it was. but nothing is always amazing. is a mess right now. but it will be something that will live forever. that's what we believed in. >> but the dream started off on the wrong foot for the very beginning because of issues with the warehouse. after the break, why he says the landlord to be sitting in jail right along with him. it feels good to be back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ sfx: stair creak sfx: clink sfx: deep breath sfx: grunt sfx: tinny headphone music sfx: feet shuffling sfx: slice sfx: gasp sfx: inhale. exhale. sfx: lights scraping on roof sfx: metallic scrape sfx: grunt covered california. it's more than just health care. it's life care. now part two of our exclusive jailhouse interview. what started as a dream, to build an art collection inside of the ghost ship warehouse, descended into a structural and safety nightmare according to ominous. >> there was a period where there was no power. and there was a period of time, where it was just dark. >> how long? >> about two months. >> you had no power for two months. >> i had to go to a neighbor and tap into their power. >> in 2004 -- 2014 there was a -- an issue here. kai and eva had to go to fix different issues that they refused. >> we go to landlord and they said it can't be stable. and he was constantly degrading. send it has to be at a fermentable standard. the building never was. >> the public perception is that you independently made a dangerous. a >> if anything we made it safer. i put in a back door, people escaped through the back door. i took the greats off of the windows and a friend of mine jumped out of the window. i put in a front staircase and there was only a back one. the back one is incinerated in the fire. the front one they said my pallet staircase that i built, it was a true form that i purchased, and we styled it in a way with the last few feet were over the sound systems and we designed it for a cause. and for people. when you look at the photographs, after the fire, that staircase is the only thing still standing. everything else is gone. it is like a hand reaching out. people could still come out so i built something awesome. it was amazing i save lives. by putting the staircase and. legally, i rented the building with one staircase in the back. i rented it and held an event. people came up the stairs if i did not have my staircase, everyone would have died. supposedly. >> he says his original lease agreement was made with someone else who assured the building could be used for in our collective. >> before we come in i wanted to make sure that i could build it to see what i wanted and what i needed. so that we could do what we have to do to make sure that the power is up to a certain standard and she said it was fine. and he was the zoning. and she copied it and posted it on the email exactly what we can do to fit the description of what we needed happen there. >> you thought the building had safety standards up to a certain standard? based on what? >> i thought it had electricity because there are plugs on the wall. i assume that we can plug things in and the entire building friday immediately. i put so much money and energy into that the brought everything down. with artifacts and instruments i do not know what to do at that point. so we had to make it work. i thought, if you're going to rent a building, especially to a group of artists, as the owner of the building you have to tell the city that you're going to be collecting money every month. and there will be humans coming in and out of the building. what do i have to do to make sure that i can legally collect that money and house this cooperative? that had never been inspected. it was still listed. they rented it as a dry gauge warehouse. and then changed it on his own. he did all of this without telling anyone. he snuck in there. he rented it as a storage warehouse. and that is the story. with that is not the story. i rented it as a community center. and art space. is all described. i did not move into a place and tell the city what i wanted to do. i tell the landlord what i want to do. the landlord owns the building. the landlord has to go to the city and say, hey, i think, i in and then there's a question. what i think the landlords? deceitful and greedy. i did not even know there was no water coming into the building. there were just empty pipes. they did not go anywhere. so finally, i get $20,000 and try to turn on water that does not even work. we uncap something we thought was the waist line and it is just a cap. almost like they planted it there making us believe we could have a bathroom. we open it and there was nothing there. >> do you think they give you an unsafe building? >> i am going to say it's two times. once for me that you have to be. and the second time yes definitely. they rented me something that they knew was unsafe. they definitely dead. >> you think that you hold any responsibility? >> so being like the father and being the person that rallied, i don't know that's how it really went down? how went down, was that i am working with artists and musicians and they signed the lease -- lease collectively. it was supposed to represent all of these people. saying that there i need someone over 40 years old to sign it. it didn't matter whose name was on the lease. so, because my name is on the lease, i am responsible. >> do you understand why some people blame you? >> i think that they blame me out of ignorance of what was really going on. that they could see the space while it was alive they could walk through it and understand that everyone created their own world there. they were responsible for themselves. we all took on that responsibility. then they would understand, the attraction of it. like, one person did not create this attraction. it was multifaceted. like you're treating me like i'm a murderer. like i did this intentionally. but i built this space to invite love into our community. and now i'm being persecuted for that. when their other powers beyond and above me that should have made sure that it was safe. like i'm a scapegoat. because they don't even know why it happened. no one knows why the fire started. >> you think it's fair? >> i think, if pg and e, the police department, cbs, the fire department, the principles of my kit schools, and anyone that knew that we are living there i came to visit many times, -- we had over 20 pianos and organs and everyone came in they played and they made fun of us, they were all there and we were sharing this burden, it would be the closest thing here. the landlords were here, i would prefer they were little further from me, but that will be the closest thing to fair. >> you think those people should be here with you? >> definitely. but i have another version of that. i think, that i did it the status saying that i did something wrong we all did something wrong. but i think the only people that truly did something wrong with those who owned the building. i don't want to blame the fire department. or the police. they are my friends. i saw them save lives countless times in the neighborhood. i don't want to blame them. >> who do you blame? >> this is the ultimate question here. who i blame? i don't want to blame anyone. it's not going to bring these people back. we are talking about an injustice or tragedy. compounded by more unjust tragedy. i am a wonderful person. i know who i am. but i am being run out of town and described as a hateful and malicious drug demonized being. i would have gladly given my life that night for anyone there. for one life. i wrote that all my cell wall. saying that if i could have the honor to go back and sacrifice the possibility of my children not surviving to have the honor and glory of being there for all of those people, in that moment of terrible suffering, because i know in that moment my voice would have called out i would have walked into the fire and drug people out. i would've thrown them out the windows. when you know that about yourself because you have children. i am a liar to say that i would've saved her children. so, they died because i was not there. so i am in jail because i did what was right for my children that night. is the ultimate riddle. >> after the break, behind-the- scenes investigates and more from the conversation that we cannot bring you in this half hour. we can now use a blood sample to detect lung cancer. if we 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some of what the conversation was like, and the things he had to say, and she had surprising answers and answers that were less surprising. she did say that she thought he was trying to shift blame. and to divert attention to other people and other parties that may be should be taking more blame. but she did say, that she does agree with some of the things he had to say. which was surprising to us. she is suing pg and e, the landlords and owners that you heard him talking about, the city and this lawsuit is really targeting a wide swath of people. they say these people are all responsible. so she did agree saying that responsibility does not fall on one or two people shoulders. there were a lot of people in that camp who they believe are responsible. >> his attorney was there for the entire interview, did they give you any restrictions on what you could or could not talk about? and did they give you any time restrictions? >> no time restrictions. the county sheriff's department was actually very accommodating. we were there for about two hours. and his attorney, at first they were worried that we were going to interrogate him. and ask a lot of details that were going to be argued in court. those that are still going to be debated between the prosecution and defense. that was not my interest to go in and grill him about every single detail. my interest was more in going in there to hear the piece of the puzzle here. he is the piece that we have not heard from before. i found that it was very enlightening to hear a lot of details about what was going on in the warehouse. how did he end up living in a warehouse in oakland and that community of artists. what were they trying to build? and i think he was a piece of the puzzle that we really had not heard from publicly before. we've heard the prosecution we've been covering this tragedy and this case for almost a year now. and hearing his perspective and getting more insight into what he said was happening that night, and previous to that night was important. >> and you never stopped at that point they let you continue to talk? nothing was interrupted? >> the attorneys do not interrupt us or stop us. or saying we were going into waters they did not want to talk about. we did take breaks. because he was drinking water and he got emotional at certain points. so we would take a break, and take a moment the conversation kind of went all over the place. you might be able to -- to tell that his mind as a very smart man, and his mind and train of thought would go in different directions. sometimes he would get emotional talking about his family and children. and the gravity of the situation that he was an altogether. >> that he talk more about the 36 people who died? >> absolutely. that is something you do not get to see in the segments. we are doing the full hour tomorrow, but we talked about one of the first questions i asked him was whether not he knew many of the people that lost their lives and he said absolutely. he spoke about people that had come to the warehouse, musicians and artists and the community a very vibrant community here in oakland of artist there were coming to that space, and he said that they were attracted to it because it offered them a freedom of expressing themselves. and a way to live in an expensive city and still do what they wanted to do and live how they wanted to live. being able to perform their art and completed. >> there's a hearing next week, what is the status of the investigation? >> is a preliminary hearing a week from today. they will be in court, and we have been in communication with the das office. we had a lot of questions about whether not more charges were forthcoming or if anyone else was going to be seeking criminal charges in this case. they would not comment. especially with the preliminary hearing coming up in a week., -- the investigation he saw where they were coming we aired a comprehensive piece about new evidence that is starting to come to public light. emails that they mentioned here in his peace between him and the owners son. we are starting to learn more about who knew what and when they knew it. what issues with the electrical systems were known and who try to fix it. >> we have a second here, what about the warehouse today? >> today you will see there's a memorial there. it is still a burned out shell of a warehouse. and has been handed back over from the city to the possession of the owner. as far as we know, no plans the last time we checked with the permitting office to do anything with it. one of our previous reports we said that the owner is set to possibly collect $3 million in insurance money. so we will be keeping an eye on that and let you know. >> so much more. we will have more this tomorrow night on katu plus at 7 pm. our coverage continues where you will find extensive coverage of the ghost ship fire. right on the fronts pay -- front page. >> tomorrow there will be an extended hour-long version of our exclusive interview. you can watch it at 7 pm. next, why the man accused of shooting and killing 26 people inside a texas church should have been blocked from having guns. the u.s. air force has admitted that it failed to report the gunman's violent past to a federal database which would have liked him from buying firearms. >> we are also learning more tonight about a possible motive for the massacre. we are in the newsroom with  these details. >> investigators say a shooter had a history of violence. in the air force he had been court-martialed for beating his previous wife and stepson cracking the toddler's skull. investigators say he sent threatening text messages to his most recent rives mother who attended that baptist church. -- most recent wife's mother who attended that baptist church. is >> investigators say a shooter walked down the aisle and fired at least 450

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