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War rages on. As College Protest against the war in israel spread, a look how it differs from wars past. And the seafood produced by the forced labor of north koreans the globalized world that we live in and how it routes through china means that many if not most brands in the u. S. Are tainted by this. Major funding if the pbs newshour has been provided by the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions and friends of the newshour including jim and nancy bildman and the robert and virginia schiller foundation, strengthen democracies abroad. And along the legendary mississippi river, travelers explore civil battlefields. Aboard our fleet of American River boats. You can experience local culture and cuisine and discover the music and history of the mighty mississippi. American cruise lines, proud sponsor of pbs newshour. The john s. And james all Knight Foundation foster informed an engaged commune test more at kf. Org. Certified plane professionals are proud to support pbs news hour cfp is proud to work for their clients. Lets makeletsmake a plan. Orgful wand the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. And friends of the newshour. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs news station from viewers like you. Thank you. Im vanessa ruiz in for stephanie sy. Here are the latest headlines. Egypt has sent a high level delegation to israel hoping to revive talks for a hostage deal and ceasefire with hamas. But cairo also warned against an israeli assault in the city of raf along the boarder with egypt. Much of gaza has been reduced to a wastelands with u. S. Individuals estimating 30,000 tons of debris will to be removed. They say it will be a mammoth job. Are were talk about 14 years with 100 trucks. So thats based on that figure 14 years to remove with approximately 75,000 work 750,000 work days, personal work days to remove the debris. So significant numbers when it comes to debris. The u. N. Said 65 of the buildings destroyed in gaza have been residential one. The military announced a new weapons package. It includes more patriot missiles but not the initial battery that is ukraine had wanted. Still in washington, defense secretary lloyd austin believes this package along with other weapons will meet ukraines needs. They need other types of interceptors as well. So i would caution us all in terms of making patriot the silver bullet. I would say that its going to its going to be integrated era as weve said so many times before that really turns a tide. The new weapons package will cost some 6 billion. Another member of secretary state Antony Blinken warned xi jinping about sum porting the russian war. Blinken told xi that they must stop supplying russia with material or the u. S. Will ago. We are committed to maintaining and strengthening the lines of communication between us so that we avoid any miscommunications, any misperceptions, any miscalculations. And we are committed to responsibly managing the relationship. For his part, xi said china and the u. S. Must seek Common Ground rather on engaging vicious competition. Britains king charles will return to public duties next week after a threemonth break for cancer treatment. Buckingham palace said that doctors are very encourageed by has progress so far. The palace has not said what kind of cancer the king has. In nebraska a powerful tornadoer to through omaha through structures. No deaths have been confirmed. More than three done tornadoes were reported throughout the plains and midwest today. The Biden Administration has delie leyed a ban on menthol cigarettes. Mr. Becerra said it is clear to have more conversations to have and that will take more time. Since 80 of black smokers use menthol cigarettes, the ban could have angered black voters. U. S. Will have to cut back some salmonella to prevent food poisoning. A final Agriculture Department regulation applies to frozen, bread and stuffed raw chicken. It takes effect this year. It causes 420 deaths and 1. 3 million infections annually in the u. S. Still to come on the newshour the connection between forced north korean labor and some of the seafood that ends up on american plates. David brooks and Jonathan Capehart will be here. And and spending four decades together. This is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and in the west from the waller Cronkite School of journalism at Arizona State university. This week, jews around the world are observing passover. The festival of liberation that marks the historic exodus from ancient egypt. Joy is tempered with loss and trauma. They will celebrate while displaced from their homes. Their loved ones still held captive by hamas. Alli rogan has more. In the rugged hills of israel, this man patrols his town where no one lives. Lebanon is so close but this town of 2,000 had to be evacuate ed under government orders. David moves around in a golf cart. He says its faster when the rockets crash. His town is nothing of what it once was especially now at passover. Its very sad. It shouldnt be this way. Its very apocalyptic. Since october 7, israels northern border is an undeclared second front line hezbollah fires rockets and missiles weekly into metula. Nearly 640 homes have been damaged. And only handful of civilianians like david chose to stay behind carrying an automatic riflele ways. This year we are not going celebrate passover. Its very hard to celebrate when your family and your town is not with you. His office is now in a bomb shelter. He says none of this is normal. Every mayor needs to represent and take care of his citizens, a place thats alive that has places to work, children in school and daycare. And here there is nothing. No family, no nothing no. Personal life. We came back to the times that weve been in the military. Thats what were doing defending our own. Another resident, david in combat gear helps guard the interest entrance to metula. Im not going to be with my family. Im away from them. Im going to do passover with our new family, all the guy that is lives in metula and decideed to stay and defend the village. Many families from metula fled to siberius where scripture says jesus walked on water. Today its a haven by those displaced by war. The sofia hotel is a home away from home like this rabbi they left metula with their 11 children. They struggle from being away from home. They say they will survive. This is what were trying to do. At the dinner, the rabbi tries to keep the spirit high with traditional songs. The table is set with special delicacies and the room is peopled by the community that was shaken but resilient. The people are trying to be happy to do our best to sit together, to talk, to tseng. Not be all the time sad because it will be sad if the winning of our enemy. Thats sarahs granddaughter and its that childhood joy that she wants to protect. I dont want them to feel like this is the end of the world. No, were strong. Even this festive dinner is without is not without dispare. It reminds them how many children are kept in darkness for more than 200 days. Dozens of families still wait for their families still held captive by hamas. I buy myself a new dress and new shoes. And this year i couldnt beautiful i felt how can i buy new dress and new shoes with the hostages. For me its very hard because i i think about the mothers with the hostages hell they go through. Feel like all the world should get up and scream and get those hostages out. It breaks my heart. That pain during passover has for 22 years has been air breathed in natania. This hotel was the target of the deadliest attack by inn israel by hamas during the second intifada. What we get for 22 years, its like the 911 in america. What we get now in the in the in the october 7, the 7 of october is much more, much more. Much more. Rina husband was the Hotel Duty Manager and among those killed while trying to stop the bombers. It was my husband and me. She had to raise her six children by herself. She was also the manager of the hotel and had to keep it running. Every passover is a grim reminder of her loss. Given what she suffered at the hands of ha marks october 7 did not surprise her. We know exactly that that that hamas want to kill us. They dont want us to be in israel. I have no illusion that is they will want peace every day. Some days because 22 years before, my husband had been killed. And think think now with them, they want to kill us. This passover as she has for the past two decades, ri, in a relies on her family to manage her grief. Americans have to sunday understand that we have to finish hamas. We cant live with them. Hamas and the palestinian population has to change the hamas. The rituals of passover this year in israel are many days the same from lighting the candle to the rituals. But those are forever changed. Now, theres a prayer for the hostages in gaza and a resolve that a passover like this will not come again. For the pbs newshour, im alli rogan. Amna one of the biggest developments of this week has been the expansion of College Protest and encampments. Encampments continue to popup including today at the university of north carolina. Meanwhile, protestors at columbia say they cannot reach an agreement with the school and intend to keep theirs going indefinitely charges have been brought against students as well during clashes. Over night more violent clashes between pro palestinian protestors and police this time at ohio state university. Officers moved to disperse a crowd after an hours long demonstration siting rules banning overnight events. More than a dozen people were arrested. The latest wave of protests and encampments follow demonstration at Columbia University last week. Similar scenes have popped up at scores of other colleges over the last several days and have led to hundreds of events. Video from Emory University yesterday shows officers pin ago protestor to the ground and tazing him. Some demonstrate ors are calling on their university to cut financial ties with israel. We came together to make demands on the university to divest the endowment from corporations that profit off of israeli genocide to disclose where our money is invested in the first place. While others want to bring attention to the war in gaza. We want to be visible. The university should do something about what were asking, about the genocide thats happening. Five minutes to leave the premise. Many say todays demonstrations echo College Protest movements in the past including against the vietnam war. What people are telling to tell the American People is that the country shouldnt function the country shouldnt function while this war is going on. That includes a historic demonstration at Columbia University itself in 1968. Students occupied campus buildings demanding the university cut ties with a think tank in pentagon weapons research. It was melt with a heavy police response. Other vietnam pro nest the 1960s, 1970s led to clash with authority. But overtime they help to shift Public Opinion leading the u. S. To withdraw. They called for divestment from south africa to end apartheid. Today, some students say theyre taking lessons from those protest. Thats been a demand from student, staff and faculty leading back to the antidivestment movemet here. No more hiding no more fear as protests spread to campuses across the country, some say parallels between todays demonstration and College Protest in the past. Stephen mintz is at the university of austin and angus is historian at american universities. Lets stewart what the protestors are calling for here . What do they want as a result of these demonstrations . It varies campus by campus. What were looking at is theyre looking for a divestment of the universitys Financial Relationships with israeli companies, a disentanglement of the universities from relationships with the Israeli Government or military and transparency as to the nature of those relationships where they currently exist. Profess or, what do you make of the demands as profess or johnston have laid out . Do you think they can be achieveed . I think theyre very likely to be achieved. The protest of the 1960s. It was possible to achieve some kind of accommodation. First of all, one of the demands, an tend to the military draft received widespread support throughout society and richard next knicks nixons administration would make that happen. There were some practical goals like study programs, women study programs, coeducation at the university and regulations. There was a lot of ground for accommodation and compromise. And i dont see that much right now. Profess or, profess or, what do you make of that . Do you agree . The easiest demand is a demand for transparency with israeli institutions. And that is something that is certainly winnable on a lot of campuses. I also think that in a lot of ways the Antiapartheid Movement of the 1970s and 1980s is a much better ana log than the mass Student Movement of the late 60s in some ways. And i think its important to remember that in the case of the Antiapartheid Movement, the calls for divestment on campuses began in the mid 1970s. And it was a very, very long and slow process by which students were adjusting peoples views of of the of the crisis itself. What you do make of that professor mintz . It cow be a long change of changeing peels minds when it comes to this issue. The concept today is very different than in the 1960s, 1970s when Higher Education was growing and the federal and state investments in Higher Education were increasing. Today, the situation of american Higher Education is extremely precarious. Public support has diminished. Funding is hotly debated in many of the states. There are threats in some state legislatures to tax endowments to Tax University property, to Tax University income, donations to many of the leading universities have declined. This is a very treacherous moment especially for the most wellendowed and highly selective institution. Amna do you agree with that . Is there a chance that protestors lose support the longer the protest go on because of what the scenario that professor mintz has laid out . The protests themselves have been moderate in their tactic. Were not seeing as we did in the 1960s, rioting, rocks being throne at police, even buildings being burned down. The protest themselves have been pretty moderate. The thing that is inflaming the situation right now in terms of their tactics, the thing thats inflaming the simp situation right now is bringing in the cops and using the police not tonight engage in mass arrests against students but arresting and beating and abusing faculty as whelm i think its really as well. I think its important to point out that there are a number of campuses in which the university has decided to take a handsoff approach. M. I. T. Is one. Berkley is another. And at these, the encampments have been proceeding with very little issue and very little drama. Profess or, what about that . Because we have seen some pretty heavyhand tactics in some case. At your campus, the university of texas at austin, dozens of people were arrested. Police in riot gear were called in to disperse the crowds. Is thisness right now, we have many brandnew president s unseasoned senior administrators making decisions. One suspects that administrators who were knowledgeable about past history have more dealing with students had better rapport with their student population that is this would be playing out extremely differently. What we need see on the part of senior administrators is a real willingness to step out of their office, communicate with the students, and try to achieve some kind of accommodation. Are you saying that you dont believe that the police should have been called that in inn some of these circumstances . Absolutely not. And the lesson of history could not be clearer this that this only escalates the situation. It worsens the situation. And it results in a degree of alienation thats very difficult to overcome. So given all that professor mintz ill ask you, ill ask you both, where do we go from here . How do you see this unfolding in the weeks ahead. Professor stint in i think the conversation needs to be made more productive in this country, if you want political change, you build coalitions. And what im not seeing on campus right now is an effort to have effect effective protests that will bring people together. When people hear and tie american sentiments, they are radically turned off. The demonstrators in my view should be calling for peace, for the release of the hostages and an American Foreign policy that will really renut a twostate result in a twostate solution. Im heartened by the fact that despite what professor mintz a lot of faculty have been turned not support of the students. Others turning out in support of the students right to protest without being harassed and without being abused by cops. I think we are seeing the development of a new coalition on the campus. And im very heartened by that. And i hope that administration or thes take heed of that and do their bit too to deescalate the situation as whelm thats profess or Angus Johnston from the university of new york and profess or stephen mints mintz from the university of texas at austin. Thank you both for joining me tot to want. Youre very welcome. In our interconnected college liesed economy goods produced on one nation end up on she was halfway around the world. While consumers hope theres some way to protect the workers and the pickup truck wes buy, some American Companies have alleged links to forced labor. William speaks with a journalist documenting the forced labor behind chinese seafood that ends up on american plates. In recent years, americans have been eight increasing amounts of seafood, its considered one of the healthier sources of protein. But a series of new investigation

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