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Cope. Judy all that and more onni tots pbs newshour. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by. Pediatric surgeon, volunteer, a raymondjames financialvi adsor. Consumer cellular has been offering no contract wireless plans designed to he people do more of what they like. Our team can help find the plan that fits you. Johnson. The james l night foundation, fostering informed and engaged communities. And, with the ongoing support of these institutions. This program was madpossible by T Corporation for public broadcasting and contributions to your pbs station by viewers like you. Thank you. Stephanie good evening. We will return to Judy Woodruff and the full program hfter the latedlines. President trump has spent much of this day in kenosha, wisconsin, touting his lawandorder campaign. The city erupted in protests last week, after police shot a black man, jacob blake, in the back. Today, mr. Trump toured burnedout stores, praiseng police andncing democratic officials. Well hear more, after the news summar protests broke out overnight near los angeles after sheriffs deputies killed a black man. Officials say he resisted arrest, then dropp a bundle containing a gun, and the deputies opened fire. Dozens of people srmed to the scene after nightfall, in tense whenat turn officers pushed into crowds to disperse them. Tw sheriffs located outside s rtland, oregon, are refusing the governorea to send deputies into the city. Thereve been months of antiracism protestsy almost nigholence and a counterdemonstrator was killed over the weekend. The sheriffs say the city is doing little to calm things, so they wont risk their deputies. In new york city, mayor bill de blasio today put off Public School reopenings for another 11 days, to september 21. Its to give teachers more time to prepare f having students ck in class. Meanwhile, schools across europe began reopening. Students in france practiced extra hand washing, and in italy, faculty members warily welcomed p after six months in which we were apart from our children, who is our passion in life, today i was thrilled to be able to be with them once again. Unfortunately, we havent yet been able to hug them but we i was longing to s mothers and i cant wait to begin living again. Stephanie in hong kong today, a universal Covid Testing Program began. But, prodemocracy activists warned that authorities might use it to collect citizens dna. Meanwhile, a stu of 30,000 people in iceland, thend largest yet, fhat human antibodies last at least 4 months after covid infection. Thats hopeful news for vaccine efforts. Bl reans in the u. S. Senate may roll out a slimmeddown pandemic relief bill next week. It could total 500 billionor dollars,he unemployed, businesses and schools. But, democrats favor a 2 trillion measure, and talks are stalled. At a house hring today, treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin called for passing whats possible. We should agree on areas wherwe can agree and move forward for the benefit of the ameran people, thats what were here for. Again, lets not get caught on a number. Lets agree on things. We can move forward on a bipartisan basis now. Stephanie facebook and twitter have announced that they have removed a number of accounts and pages link to the same troll factory that attempted to interfere in the 2016 election. They provided information about dtheinformation campaign. The pentagon is projecting that china could double its nuclear ead arsenal over the nex decade. A report to Congress Says the chinese stockpile may grow to more than 400 warheads. The u. S. Has 3,800. E ntagon estimates that beijing wants to become the dominant power in the pacific by 2049. Back in this country, more than 50 black former franchise owners of mcdonalds sued the fast food chain today. Their federal lawsuit, filed inc o, says the company steered them to lowprofit locations in crimeridenho neighbs. Mcdonalds denies the allegations. And, on wall street, stocks rallied as Construction Spending the dow jones indu averageased. Gained 215 points to close at the rose 164 points, and, sd28,645. The sandp 500 added 26. Ti both h new record highs. Shares of zoom video surged 40 frcent today, making it worth more than gm andd. The Internet Business has exploded with the pandemic. Still to come on the newshour, continue nationwide as the president visits kenosha, wisconsin. Congress remains deadlocked on a coronavirus Economic Relief package as jobless cremain high. We visit the United Kingdom for upclose look at the benefits and drawbacks of a singlepayer healthcare system, plus much more. This is the pbs newshour, fr washington and in the west from walterf Cronkite School journalism at Arizona State university. Judy w race, justice, d order we face a critical moment in america. As yamiche alcindoreports , protests in the streets are a key issue at the ballot box. And wisconsin s at the center of attention today. Yamiche one day after compari Police Shootings to golf and justifying a trump supporter killing two people, President Trump came to kenosha, wisconsin. The city is still reeling from the shooting of jacob lake. The president toured damage and met with law enforcent. Pres. Trump we have seen we will put down very quickly if given the chance. I keep hearing about peaceful protests, en i come into an area like this athe town is dburnown. Yamiche thede pres visit today spawned more demonstrations, and some confrontations between his. Upporters and black lives matter proteste he did not meet with jacob blakes family. They say the 29yearold is paralyzed after a Kenosha Police officer shot him 7 times in the back. Likes uncle spoke this afternoon. Ourephew was shot seven times in the back. Nothing could justify that. He had no weapon and hes paralyzed right now in the hospital. Dont have any words for the orange man. All i k is that he keep his disrespect, his foulanguage far away from our family. Yamiche the shooting on augusth 23rd t off a week of turmoil and almost daily protests. Black lives matter yamiche many were peaceful gatherings. Some evenings saw fires, vandalism and looting, before democratic Governor Tony Evers sent ithe national guard. City officials estimate the cost of damage to City Property so at nearly 2 million. And today, evers announced state loans to assist local businesses. For his part, the president also pledged to provide millions of dollars for Small Businesses and Law Enforcement. Democrats across wisconsin repeated requested the president not visit, saying he would only ignite tensions. This is trumps america. Yamiche the National Democrati partreleased an ad today that echoed that, blaming presideen trump for sc of violence. His meeting with Law Enforcement today comes after he told fox news last night that policegh officers face ressure situations. He then compared Police Shootings to golfing. Ru pres. they can do 10,000 great acts, which is what they e do, and d apple or a you know, i mean, they choke. Meantime, he mightve been going for a weapon. And you know theres a whole big thing there. But they choke, just like in a golfournament. Yamiche yesterday, President Trump also defended 17yearold Kyle Rittenhouse who is charged with shooting 3 people and killing 2 last tuesday during the protests. Pres. Trum he was trying to get away from them, i guess; it looks like. And he fell, and then they very violently attacked him. N he wasry big trouble. He probably would have been killed. Yamiche prosecutors rittenhouse shot one person before protesters chged him. They tri to take his gun away before he fired again. In that same interview, President Trump also encouraged a baseless conspiracry that powerful people in dark shadows were behind the protests. Wisconsin democrats, such as u. S. Congressman mark pocan who reprents madison condemned the president s words. Rep. Pocan we dont want people guns, acting like vigilantes thinking theyre running the streets, and yet that is exactly what donald trump is promoting division. S his racial yamiche the president s comments are not the first timep he haseared to condone s olence. After a woman wakilled protesting against a White Nationalist rally in charlottesville in 2017, he said this. Pres. Trump you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. Yamiche and on the campaign trail in 2016, he said of a protester interrupting a rally pres. Trump id like to punch him in the face. Yamiche back in kenosha, the community cleanup, food drive and Voter Registration event at the site where he was shot. Re still calling for the officer who shot him to be charged. Sh for the pbs nr, im yamiche alcindor. Judy the economic crisis stemming from the covid19 pandemic now. Orn on for Months Congress is still a long way from passing a new round of Economic Relief. And one of the limited actions thatresident trump took a fe weeks ago is still in the middle of being implemented. Here to explain where things stand is our own lisa desjardins. Kn so w there are Something Like 27 million americans receiving some sort of Unemployment Benefits and it was ju a matter of weeks ago that President Trump promised additional 300 per week, but the states had to sign on. Nearly every state ha applied. But they have to make a choice to do it. States can ask for 300 per person and because of some creative guidance by the Trump Administration, the state does or the state can choose to add 100 on of its own is that each ste. The trick is that each it can take weeks or months for each state to press. First, lets look at this. Look at the red state, south dakota, the only state in the country that has declined to participate. The next, lets look at these five states. These are the five states th have decided to give 400 week. That is their plan. In yellow, nearly every other state is opting for that 300 because most states say they dont have the budget t contribute themselves. The big questionw, many workers are seeing these now . These estates. Justive states so far have been able to get out the extra 300 per person this money is coming fromte a disfund. Were not sure how long it will last. Et thiss a race to mone it seems only four or five weeks total will be available for any state judy f you step back, what does this mean for people counting on this money . I know our team has reached out to a number of blue are unemployed. Lisa we spent the day talking to a lot of people it was 600 pladditional that these uned workers were getting but that ran out weeks ago. For many of these families, that is 3000 less that they have i have heard of famies cutting back, trying to pool resources. Retheyot sure how long they will be able to make it with those tactics. Elizabeth bartholomew from michigan, she isvents planner that lost her job due to coronavirus. Before thismy husband and i ared mortgage and split up our bills and stuff and now all of that is on him. I think he feels a lot pressure because of that. And my you know, whatever little i make is just im, im buying groceries for my kids. Lisa that theme of family andin depeon you was apparent. Another quote, a church coordinator, told us it is insurance, buying food, and keeping the internet on for my children. A lot of difficult choices. People are getting creative. Can last and anxiety is risings quickl congress to see what they are up to. Lisa that is the frustrating part. Ey expected congress to come through with something by now. Congress is still negotiating. Center republicans, i am told,os feel they are to having their own plan. But it remains to be seen. One issue is that the house itself is only supposed to be in session for three weeks i september. Everyone agrees that september is the windowo get this done. If congress is not able to come up with more relief, we will have a more serious economic problem soon. Judy ha t you. Judy we continue now with oures sen universal health care. Tonight, William Brangham ond producer jane turn to the u. K. , where its National Health it sparks both inson and while alarm in the u. S. This story was filmed before the pandemic erupted. Good morning to you. Did you have a good sleep . William even with the help of his mom, liam murphy still struggles to wake up each day. I thought you would be dreaming about charlotte. Right . Y . William liam has down syndrome, epilepsy, a chronic lung disease. Hes dealt with these since the day he was born. The eleven year old lives in watford, england, with his parents, gary and angelina, and big sister, laura. Vigilant for troublikently this seizure. Dont start, dont start. Can you get the mask . I cant ve that. Itwilliam dozens of times a y, episodes like this will send liam to the hospital. He is always at risk of dying. Care he gets, is atament toible the United Kingdoms National Health service, known as the nhs. Residents of the uk pay taxes to the government that support the nhs. S the governmenten the single payer for health care. Ct it pays s and hospitals and covers nearly all costs. For liam, thats all his medicines and hospitalizations. It pays for caregivers that come the nhs even paid for this chair and standing frame to him exercise. So hes been up for about half an hour now, hasnt he . So thats really good, liam no one says, well, thats going to cost too much, so were not ing to do it youve never heard those words . No. If we call an ambulance, an ambulance will be here in five minutes to pick liam up, and take him to hospital. Li a spec team will come out, pick him up, put him on their ventilators, take him to intensive care, and an intensive care bed will cost 2000 pounds. No one mentions the money, they just do what you need to do. Without nhs, we would be bankrupt, and liam would probably be not with us. July 5th, the new Health Care Service starts. William the National Health service was built from the wrecge of world war ii, something of a gift from the government to a battered and impoverished nation, which and today, its still considered the uks great equalizer. Everyone, regardless of profession or income, has accest t system. From primary care to, as needed, the full range of specialty services. Do you ever think about how much nings are going to cost w you come to the doctor . Nope, it doesnt cross mybu mindthe thing is, because im diabetic, in england if youre diabetic, your prescriptions are free, so i dont have to pay for it anyway, so it doesnt cross mind. William despite those benefits, per person, the nhs spen less than half what we spend in the u. S. , including a lot less than we do on administrative costs. And the nhs generally gets Better Health outcomes than we do. Life expectancy is longer here than in the u. S. In part, because people in the u. K. Suffer much lower rates of diabetes, and hypertension. A, its hard to overstate just how beloved the naonal Health Service is here in the uk. Some people ha referred to it the closest thing this country has to a national religion. In fact, in 2018, when the service had its 70th anversary, they had a huge celebration here at westminster abbey. When the pandemic hit, a big part of the governments stayathome appeal was protect the nhs. We must be sure tt the infection rate is falling. William even so, disillusion has grown in recent years. In the rural town of dorchester, england, i met 77yearold olive i was supposed e the operation in august. And 14 hours before the opation, they canceled it. William parfitt needs to have her knee replaced, but ss en on a surgical waiting list for nearly a year. She said she took 4 painkillers just to make this short stroll. Olive because ive walked so badly for over a year, ithm starting trow the other knee out. William oh really, because youre compensating . Yo yeah, swobble. If i have a heart attack tomorrow, its the beil thing, theytake me in, they will do it. T when youve got what i call disabilities that are not lifethreateningthey cant pe. I was told six months, and that was a year ago. Ars a year. T week, i was told william tt has been a strong supporter of the nhs her whole life. But now, after a lifetime of paying in, she feels left out. Suddenly when you get to a certain age and you want to get it back out again, its not there anymore. William an estimated 10 of uk citizens pay out of pocket for supplemental insurance, in part, to avoid long waits. D ese delays also cause tens of thousands of residents to seek some care abroad. For people like parfitt, its dispiriting. So, you just think nobody cares about me anymore. Im an old girl, probably if you carry on long enough, shell pop her clock, and then we wont have to worry with her. I do feel that you become invisible. William funding for the nhs has been a constanproblem, and a political flashpoint. Different administrationfund the nhs at different levels, and the u. K. s recent austerity asures have delayed upgrades, and made serious staffing ortages worse. This has also led to adaeries of sc, as seen in this 2017 bbc report, Emergency Rooms were overflowing. And in recent years, after being rushed to the hospital, hundreds of thousands of patients were stuck in ambulances for over an hour. There are always choices, and inevitably and in everal care system, there are always limitations on what the system can do. William sir Andrew Dillon was, until this spring, t o longtime hethe National Institute for health and care excellence , known as nice. A sweet acronym, but some conservatives in the u. S. Woken it to a death panel nice is one of the nhss crial cost control mechanisms, studying evidence to recommend which treatments and procedures give the most costeffective benefit. So, making sure that we really understand the benefitsof ne option over another, making sure we really understand the value for our money, particularly in a publicly funded system that has to account for how money is used, is really important. William irndrew says wait times for elective surgeries like olive parfitts have improved, but funds arent infinite i love how open and explicit they are about te fact that the always choices. Healthystems around the world. S hes now the dean of Brown Universitys school of publiche th and hes been a collaborator on this series with us. Its not like in the u. S. We have rationing in the u. S. Its primarily based on your ability to pay and w hther you halth insurance or not. So the National Health service tries to make explicit toi rationing chs its making. Jha says the u. S. Could learn a thing or two from a fully funded version of this system. Access for everyone, transparenr cost cs. People rarely going broke because they got sick. Where i tnk wthget lost is idea that somehow we could take the National Health service and just import it into america. And i think whs really lost t all that context. The history behi National Health service, the meaning people assign it. We dont have any of that. But there is a lot we can learn. And there are strengths of the National Service that we could abhelutely do better with in u. S. William ince we first filmed with them back in february, liam was hospitalized and in critical cocan ition. This time, right in the middle of the u. K. s worst stretch of the pandemic. But hes back he now, and doing ok. The general ethos that ive experienced is that nobody has given up. And every time we have an episode where it could go ther way, we come together and say , he hasnt given up, therefore we arent giving up, and then good enough for meionals go, william the murphys say the nhs isnt perfect, but its given them more precious time with tir son. For the pbs newshour, im William Brangham in watford, england. Judy the u. S. Is drawing down in iraq, from 5200 troops to it of a plan developed pa00. With the Iraqi Government to hand over security responsibility to iraqi forces. But the couny faces largera challenges thaw, u. S. Backed Prime Minister is struggling to solve. Ni schifrin reports. Nick in life, reham yaqob led a clarion cry ofraqi protest. Om she opened a wonly gym and advocated fele empowerment. And she campaigned a iranianbacked militias. In the death, she was a symbol of those militias strength, and of government weakness. We are still in shock we t expect this. It is really a state of horror. Nick st her murder laonth helped spark protests in her hometown basra. Demonstrators torcd the local parliamentfurious the government couldnt keep them safe. Iraqi Security Forces responded with live gunfire. In 10 months, theyve killed more than 500 protestors. Those protests condemn not only insecurity, but also an economic calamity, a lackf jobs, basic services, and smothering c governmeruption. Each government comes, gives us hope, and says it will ho our rights. But until now even, our demands are still not being met. We dont have anything. Nick in basra, Prime Minister Mustafa Alkadhimi fired t nd intelligence chiefs, and ordered an investigation. This is a new government that is working to ertablish the uisites of security. It aims to establish security and prevent crime. Nick but he has struggled to dearm shia militias likely responsible for basra assassinations. The u. S. Is reducing troop levels and transferring bases to iraqi control, saying the iraqi militarys more capablell but the mainenge is governance. Positioned himselfreformer, has since becoming Prime Minister in may. But he inherited crises of security, economy, and leadership, all at once. And im joined now by ali allawi, the finance minister of iraq. Mr. Minister, welcome to the newshour. It seems le your job is massive. One expe described it this you have to deregulate, decorrupt and demilitia. What is the size of that challenge . Wl, it is actually quite rge challenge. A very serious challenge. Av but we hto do what one must, given, you know, the circumstances of t country. Nist we saw this horrific b by negligence and apathy of thed government for many years. Ansome of the observers i talked to about eraq fear that s a paralysis in some of the government and that major changes arent happening just like in le tnon. Do you s beirut explosion as some kind of cautionary tale . Mr. Allawi it shows you what happens when, when a state becomes hollowed out. We have not yet reached the same y vel but were not vr from it. We have to reassert the authority of the governmt, not to allow the state to become basically an instrument extraneous parties who then use it to derive benefits from this hollowing out of the state, the diversion of state resources to private means and for illicit purposes. If we dont take remedial measures soon, the process might have gone too far. We have to take very important and very radic measures soon. Nick lets look at the regionre antions with iran. Is it possible for iran to play a constructive security role in iraq when it funds and staffs militias that are loyal or sometimes controlled by iran . Mr. Allawi we think that irans involvement in the past and certain, certain times, has been problematic. An inasmuch as they are responsible for sustaining some of the more out of control militias, i think they will, they will need to change and recalibrate their engagement to these, to these entities. I think that iran is beginning to recognize that the way that it engages sometimes leads to change. Nick [00 10 17]lets talk about nick lets talk about the u. S. Role in that effort. As you said, the Prime Minister talks about trying to reform thos about improving government, reforming the bureaucracy. Is the u. S. Helping enough with those efforts . Mr. Allawi the United States has pulled back from many areas in which it has been active, had been active before, and now it appears to limit its engagement to mainly the area of providing support to the iraqi Security Forces. We also would like to see the u. S. Reaffirm or expand its t gagement to include sectors which its tive now, as it was in the past. For example in the economy, helping us to reform,re ructure. Were not really looking for additional financial government, directly in the financial contributions orfr investment the u. S. Government, directly in the economy of iraq. But we want to see the United States supporting the Reform Program and to stand behind us i in varioernational forums and to support us as we proceed along this path. Nick ali allawi, the finance minister of iraq thank you very much, sir. Judy the census is always a now made more complicated by covid. Amna nawaz explores the hurdles faci the onceinadecade population count. Amna the deadline for counting the 2020 cens is fast approaching. The Census Bureau announced that its ending door to door outreach efforts at the end of september. A month earlier than plaed. Rats sent local organizers into a scramble ch hard to count communities. There are hundreds of billions of dollars in federal funds at stake, and pivotal congressional seats hang in the balance. Nprs hansi lo wang has been reporting on the census and he joins me now. Hasi, welcome back to the n hour. Lets start with that timeline and help people understand what it is behind it. What drove that shortened timeline . Moving it up from thend of october to the end of september. And whats the potential impact . Hansi well, this is surprise move by the Census Bureau, who and the bureaus director, steven dillingham, said this was following a diremmive from the ce secretary who oversees the Census Bureau. Essentially, the Trump Administration has taken the position that they want to cut short counting for the 2020 census by a month in oo meet a current legal deadline, which is by the end of this year, december 31. The latest staun population are due to the president. Those are the counts used to redistribute seats in ss. Recently, President Trump issued a memo saying that he wants to adjust those counts once he gets them as president. He wants to exclude unauthorized immigrants from those counts, even though the constitution says that those numbers ould include every person living in the country. Amna so let me ask you aboutro this newss the Census Bureau has had to undertake means theyre crunch to reach communities theyve already had trouble reaching during a pandemic. Ave already seen a lag and Response Rate frumber of census officials weve spoken to as compared to 2010. I want to play for you a little bit of sound from one local official we talked to who is seeing that kind of lag. This is michael thurman. Hes the ceo of dekalb county, he said its diverse area. A big latinx, a big immigrant aycommunity. Hehe is worried about a severe undercount. Take a listen to him. The best, clearest example as to why the census is so important, as to why every resident should be counted is look no further than the cares act dollars that are being distributed across this nation. Undercount in the census results in underfunding by one of the most challenging diseases we face. Hansi amna that concern we heard from mr. Thurmon, how ique is that . Hansi th you hea a lot from a lot of places around the country, were in the middle of an unpredictab pandemic, a historic hurricane season. We dont know what these next few weeks argoing to, whats going to happen and whether or not Census Bureau worker doorknockers were already out there trying to reach those households have not participated yet. What new challenges may be coming their way already . The census workers that ive been talking to. They say theyre having trouble with the iphones that theyve been issued to try to collect this information. Theyre seeing delays in being ained and a lot of pressure to go out in the field while having not dealing adequately trained in these situations. There are a lot of challenges here in this shortened timeframe really just exacerbates all of them. Amna ng you mentioned somet else i want to ask you about. That was the Trump Administrations attempt to exclude the undocumented population from some of those countsor reapportionment purposes. But we also heard a lot about their attempt to add a Citizenship Question to the census that was evenally shot down by the supreme court. But we asked census managers about this around the country. I want to play for you a little sound from nestor lopez. Ce hes thus coordinator for hidalgo county, texas. He says the effort alone to try to add that Citizenship Question is already having an impact. Take a listen. Even today, we still lear pesking, are they going to ask me about my citizenship, my family or the people livingin y household, we do have so that fear often just results in inaction. Ssna hansi, have you heard from others that the ing alone, the attempt to add that question, could having to have some kind of Chilling Effect . Nsi i have. And you also hear from Community Groups who have spoken to some of the challengers othe apportionment memo that President Trump recently issued. All of this rhetoric and at this talk abo should be included, who should not be aycluded, even though, again, the constitutionits supposed to be a count of every person living in the country. There is a lot of concern that there is a lot of mixed messaging going around. And in fact, a lot of people still dont know that the 2020 census does t include a question about citizenship status. Also does not include anything about a persons immigration status, which is one reason why people say, experts say, that President Trumps call to exclude unauthorized immigrants from the enforment count, that its not possible and its not legal, that there is no wa lto do that inal way and in a practical way, because theres no question the immigration status of the Census Bureau is collecting peoples information, not knowing what peoples immigration status is. And so its going too e really hardy to exclude certain populations. Amna hansi, there is this other roconcern weve hearda number of census officials across the country, and that is that their bureau is being politicized. Have you heard something similar . Hansi i have ard theres concerns. And recently the Trump Administration appointed tap new politicaintees, a Political Science professor who specializes in african politics. A new Senior Adviser to this new Deputy Director for policy. Both of them, their qualifications are very unclear. And you have the american statistical association, other professional associations, raising questions about whatqu ifies these individuals tole take on tol policy roles at a time when the Census Bureau is trying to finish a onceadecade head count. Amna hansi, before we go, very briefly, with all , these concer there any way that this will be now done right . Have we reached a point of no return . Hansi its really hard to say at this point. There are a lot of factors against the 2020 census. But one thing to keep in mind here is the nstitution calls for a count once a decade. And there is a chance that whatever numbers are collected, the Data Collected over the next weeks may be the data we all as a country have to live with for the next 10 years. Amna at is nprs hansi lo wang, who covers the Census Bureau joining us tonight. Hansi youre welcome. Si. Judy more than two thousand american newspapers have closed since 2004. And now, amid the global pandemic, local news is again struggling to keep the presses running. Jeffrey brown recently spoke with margaret sullivanbout this decline. Its the focus of her new book, ghosting the news local t journalism a crisis of american democracy. Uljeffrey margaretvan, thank you for joining us. Even beyond the numbers, what do you see happening . Margaret we have a serious situation with the local news ecosystem in the United States, in which local news many communities is either withering or dying out. In some cases, newspapers have become just ghosts or spec tres of what they once were. Citizens are not being served in those communities anymore. Jeffrey your concernets to the subtitle, the crisis of american democracy. What is the link between the loss of local news and the loss of ideal nationally. Margaret in order to function as citizens, we need to have kind of a common basis of facts. When need to all be functioning from the same set of fact. As local news goes away, we lose iethat in our commun we still may have wonderful sources of National News but we have to thinkbout our local government, our city government, our school board. As than dwindles, citizens they become more tribal and the way they vote. And lots of things happen that are not good for a democracy. Jeffrey we are in a time when factas themselvea question. Can you give me an example of what you think is lost we lose the local journalism . Margaret it is that expression, you dont know what you don know. The great reporting that hase of happened at the local level. For example, the way the miami herald a mcclatchy newspaper u that is realer siege, really brought the jeffreyre epstein storyscitated it, and developed a situationhe that came further to justice. If julie k. Brown of the miami herald had not been doing her job, justice may not have taken place. It can happen in a smaller way. O covering the school board , Council Meeting . Jeffrey even while this i happening, a lot of americans, may be most americans dont even realize this is happening. Getting plenty of news. Are in the age of social media and the internet, more often the complaint is that there is too muchnformation. How do you convince everyone that they are missing something . Margaret this is a big reason i wrote the book i did. Some very Good Research that said seven of 10 americans think that local news organizations e doing swimmingly. Very few people want to pay r any form of local news. I thought it would be important to sound the alarm before we lose this very important resource we have for being good it was a hard message to get across because we have this firehose of information. But that oftenas to do with national politic, national and interNational News. Jeffrey i know euros about some of the sutions. Are there signs of hope that you see . Maaret there are. In many cases, there are digital startup news organizations. The Texas Tribune in austin, and many around the country, that are really a new model. They are notewspapers, they e maybe nonprofit or digital sites that are really doing good work. They a based not on advertising generallyut on membership, philanthropy, running events. I dont think that they fully take the place of newspapers. I think we need to do both. Sure up and secure newspapers while also supporting these new measures that will take us into the future. Jeffrey the book isti gh the news. Margaret sullivan, thank you. Judy stay wi us to hear how tracking your kids digitally might expose them to more risk. But first, take a moment to hear from your local pbs station. Judy million of students return to school this week, many learning pririly online, offering a trove of new data to companies. But what aut the apps and websites parents use to keep kids safe . D law professor ternet privacy expert Leah Plunkett shares her humble opinion on why parents should shy fromll hightech survce. Leah the other day, my 9yearold son tried to convince school by himself. To walk to his pitch, put one of those smart watches on me so you know i am. My response no one should be spying on you, including dad and me. When our kids think the best way for them to get more freedom is for us, their parents, to use surveillance tecology on them, we are failing them. Im the mom of two young kids. And a law professoogy researcher with my parent brain, i understand the appeal of tracking our kids. With my professor br understand the risks if we go ahead and do it we can put a surveillance doorbell system on our front dooro see when our ki come and go, we can put a smart watch en them with geng that alerts us when they go outside bounds weve set for them. We want to keep our kids safe, but actually, re jeopardizing their physical safety. If the technology were using on them from smart watches to tracking apps on tbeir phones annd isnt fully secure, then their whereabouts could be tracked by people who might want to harm them. Remember, kids who are survivors of abuse often know their we dont need to make it possible for potential predators in our networks or hackers to access the surveillance teche put on our kids and stalk them. We could also be jeopardizing their fure opportunities. When a technology monitors our kids location, movements, or other behaviors, we typically have no ironclad guarantee that the information stays put. The tech provider could sell information about where our kids go or how fast they drive to ahi data broker, then might sell it to schools and employers. We know that College Admissions are increa big data analytics. Without ironclad guarantees that a tech provider wont share our childrens information, we should assume that they will, either now or in the future, in ways that we cant predict or control. When our children veer offt course, we w to stay in the family. Parents, choose not to stalk your kids. Youre unlikely to be the only ones watching. Judy on the newshour online, rightow, we have collected ways to help survivors of the devastation left by hue laura. Find that on our web pbs. Org newshour. And thats the newshour for tonight. Im Judy Woodruff. For all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you. Please stay safe and well see yosoon. Major funding has been provided by with fidelity wealth management, a dedicad advisor in taylor recommendations to your life. That is fidelity wealth management. Consumer cellular. Johnson johnson. Nafincial Services Firm raymond james. Carnegie corporation of new york, supporting innovion, democrat engagemen and dnternational peace security. And, with the ongoing f these individuals a institutions this pgram was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting andio contrib to your pbs station by viewers like you. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsiblecoor its captioent and accuracy. ] this is pbs newshour west, from weta studios in washingtonnd a the walter Cronkite School of journalism at Arizona State university. Announcer this program was made possible in part by contrstutions to your pbs ion from viewers like you. Existence itself have always fascinated us. Whe did we come from . How did we get here . Who are we . Explorese eternal questions has been the goal of dr. Deepak chopra for his entire career. Boardcertified enalcrinologist, clinrofessor of Family Medicine and Public Health at iathe university of califo san diego and bestselling author of more than 90 books. Hes a trusted in the journey toward a greater

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