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Transcripts For KQED PBS NewsHour 20240713

Just trying not to thinkne tively and being around positive people. Nick and the district of champions. The Washington Nationals finally bring home a world series win. L that and more on the pbs newshour. Major funding for the pbs newshour has bn provided b bnsf railway, consumer cellular. And a by thered p. Sloane foundation, supporting science, technology, and improved performance and literacy in the 21st century. Carnegie corporation of new york , supporting democratic advanceme and the of International Peace and security at carnegie. Org. And with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and contributions to your pbs station fromiewers like you. Thank you. Nick in u. S. History, the house of representatives only pursued impeachment three times. Today, the house took a major step toward initiating the fourth effort and laid out where the process proceeds from here. Lisa de chardin begins coverage. Lisa it is the rarest of debates apeng possible hment. I truly believe 100 years from now, hi back on this moment and judge us are the decisions we maye. This moment calls for more than politics. No matter what is said by the other side, this is a dark day and a cloud has fallen. Lisa s thiwas the house opening a more defined phase in impeachment, voting on the process ahead and putting lawmakers on the record for the concerns aronce about President Trumps request to the ukraine president. On this vote,he yeas are 232. The nays r 196. it was almost Straight Party split. The two sides do agree on something, the stakes involved. Nancy pelosi. Theou times have and to how we protect and defend the states. Ion of the united what is at stake in all of this is o nothing last th democracy. Lisa republicans are blasting the impeachment process as unfair to the preside. It is absolutely the case it has been a secret process that denied rights to the minority that involved leaking selectively things the majority would like to have leaked in which rights. Have deni lisa the resolution sets up a twopart process, with public hearings by the Intelligence Committee together facts. The resolution sets out important procedures for how we make conduct open hearings. Lisa if impeachment recommended, the House Judiciary Committee would take it up and allow for the president and his lawyers tovolved. But republicans say thats too late, that initial hearings without the ability will taint the resolution before us sp not about trency. Its about control. Lisa Stephanie Grisham accused democrats of having an unhinged obsession with thisme impea proceedings. President d trump tur his favorite retort, calng it a witch hunt. Meanwhile,nv houseestigators heard from tim morrison, the top expert on the National Security staff. He gave a deposition and said he is leaving his post after his testimony. He was mentioned in testimony from williamr, taylo currently the top diplomat in the ukraine. Nick lisa joins us. Lets start with you and where lisa left off. What did tim morrison say behind closed doors today . Yamiche tim morrison, aide to the National Security council, corroboratedhat William Taylor told lawmakers yesterday, last week rather. Emessentially,rats were saying this was studying that wh testimony, they were telling people about the bidens. He was the person who alerted a william tayl went to him twice. The first t conversation that said i think he is going to officials and telling them theyd n an investigation into the bidens to lisecure 391 m in military aid already appropriated by congress. He goes to William Taylor a second time and say it im having a sinking sinking feeling. Dhesanding officials open an investigation into the bidens. What you have isre is tim mo saying what William Taylor told you last week is true. Sa standing outside that room, bot h parties thoug said something that helped them. Nick has that . How is that . Lisa they didnt hear anything illegal. Nick back to you. Close to trump, what is theeu, significance of that story . The combined stories of tim morrison and bill taylor . Yamiche tim morrison gives credibility to what taylor said. He is saying most of what he said is accurate. The first is he saidno i concern anything illegal was discussed. Then you have william tay sr ths i thought it was crazy military aid was held upca for polimeans associated with the president. You have two people saying we heard the shing but we have different takes on what it means. Nick what we are talking about is the substance of the impeachment proceedings. Troops on a partisan vote . Lisa not just highstakes, high pressure. When you talk aboutemrats, they are thinking about two things. First, trying to stress this as the process, not impeachment itself. Second, they are seeing polling move in the direction of impeachment. The majority of americans want an impeachment inquiry to move forward. Thats something democrats feel good about. Biggest deal was they only lost two of the vulnerable moats, both in major trump districts. Thats sll major democrats. Coming from the white house. E is President Trump met with some of these yesterday and i heard from one woman who said it wasag a relaxed mebecause we are not confident in this. Nick where is the president right now . Whatow is the message andoes that differ from previous messages . Yamiche today was a huge moment in the presidency. It is now him looking forward and saying im looking at a formal impeachment inquiry process and i need tote get my st together. The strategy for republicans who gather is that this is a total sham. No matter what democrats do, all of this unfair. Thats an issue because this is they said he didnt pressure ukraine. Then they said its secondhand owledge. Then we need a house and floor vote. Every time they made a message, they have had to adjust. There was a memo that came out. There were people saying i have issues. Nick weve heard republicans chalnging thesere rules that set as different from those rules during the clinton impeachment hearing. Are they different . Lisa this is complicated. I want the wrist to understand the difference is there is a twostep process. See hntelligence committee will have public hearings, something we did not see in watergate and clinton because there were previous investigations. The Intelligence Community is doing the first investigation anrepublicans are right that in that portion, the president does not have rights to question testimony or witnesses. But theres the second part, which is the House Judiciary Committee. Should impeachment move forward . That process is silar to nick i want to come back to one more thing. Freshman democrat katie hillf california has resigned. Gave an incdible speech today. Ts listen to a brief part of it. This is bigger than me. Eci am leaving nowse of a double standard. Want to be used as a bargaining chip. I didnt want to be peddled by papers and blogs and websites, used byle sha operatives for the dirtiest gutter politics ive ever seen. Nick hy are people talking about this . Lisa s trson is younger. There are two dozen members in their 20s and 3s. This is a new idea of pictures taken in private used against you. But also, her defense was new. It was a more personal and assertive defensve seen from a departing member from congress. Nick thanks to you both. Stephanie with e latest. Southern california faced another assault by wildfires driven by winds. Afirefighters making progress, but not before they lead to near escapes. Santa ana winds have a blowtorch rning through half a dozen homes, flames raced downhill, driven by gusts of 70 miles per hour. Smellpe smokele started screaming down the street. Started wedding things down and things went downhill from there. Stephanie ws cattled the fire but it was dangerous. 1300 residents were ordered to evacuate as the fire cap spreading. This fire med so fast and continues to have the potential to move quickly that if folks dont evacuate when we t askm to, it will be difficult to try to get them out. Stephanie y most mandat evacuations have now been lifted. Pacific gas and electric has moved to rtore power to hundreds of thousands of people. Some in the dark since the weekend. Seresidence at thior facility say they were trapped for two days. Total darkness in every hallway and stairwell, outside assistance wasnt here at all. Owwe were left on ou stephanie fire conditions improv. Officials say the wins in Southern California should ease tonight. One of those fires was chase led to a car crashing and catching on fire. The two people in the stolen car will be charged with arson the kincade fire is 60 the teachers strike in chicago is over. The new union agreed to go back to work after the city agreed to make up five of the days lost. They hadlready reached a tentative deal. Wethe mayoomed the outcome. Enough is enough. In the spirit of compromise, we agreed. It was a hardfought discussion, took a long time to get there, that is the right thi for our city and im glad this is over. Stephanie more than 300,000 students can go back to class tomorrow. Islamic state grp confirmed the date of their leadere. Nd vowed reve he died in a rate in syria. An audio statement named his successor but gave no details. Troops have returnedsy to northeasa weeks after President Trump ordered withdrawal. Armored vehicles flying american flags patrolled today for miles south of the Turkish Border a tv network showed them visiting oil facilities. President trump ordered the withdrawal but said somewhat ate to secure oil sites they said in the interim, Turkish Forces killed 700 fighters whore u. S. Partners. The president of iraq called for a new election law amid antigovernment protests. He said the Prime Minister is willing to resign if political leaders agree on his replacement. But in baghdad, students clogged a major bridge, leaving one person dead. They said it would not be ough. Wee want a total cha government. We dont want the firing of one or two offials. We want the government to be uprooted. They think we will protest foran one or two daygo home. We will stay here until it is tally uprooted. Of protest. They have seen waves at least 250 people have been killed. In pakistan, fire engulfed a train, killing at least 74 people. Officials say a gas sve exploded and the blaze spread through the carriages. Some jumped out the window to escape. More than 40 people were injured. North korea fired two more projectis. They said the rocket launchers. Japan said they appisred to be bac metals missiles. Tething came after north korea criticized the slope pace of talks wh the u. S. General motors announced a recall of 638,000 suvs and pickup trucks. The company said a wheel speed sensor could fail andause breaking. The vehiclesncluded chevrolet suburbans, tacos, and silverados toes, and silverados, goingth back t 2014 model year. And the Washington Nationals are thcelebratinr first world series title. They won last night in beating the astros, 62. The capital city streets erupted cheering crowds and the team arrived back in washington. Dea para will be held saturday. No Washington Team had won a world series since 1924, and we will have more on that later. Still to come, the u. S. House votes and the next phase of the impeachment inquiry begins. Why twitter is banningca all poli ads on the platform. After 39 migrants were found dead, what willo it take tem Human Trafficking in europe . And much more. S t the pbs newshour from w eta studios in washington, and in the west from the Walter Cronkite school of joualism. Now that the house of representatives h approved rules, what happens now . Adam schiff is theth chairman of committee, playing a central role in the impeachment effort. Thank you. Welcome back to the newshour. Todays vote was entirely along party lines. How do you convince the public this is not a partisan attempt to, as the president says, overturn the election . I think letting the public here from the witnesses themselves. At the end of the day, this is about the facts. What are the facts . The American People will see there are very Serious Problems with the presints conduct, grave problems, in abuse of powers of that office, his sacrificing of u. S. Interests, National Security interests, in favor of personal and political interests. The best way to show the American People why we had to take this step of moving forward with our inquiry willwi be al the people to hear firsthand from those who were abuse of power. This kind of republicans call yourfft a partisan crusade against the president youve never liked. You yourself, for years, have been criticizing many of President Trumps National Security disions. Do republicans have a point . Are you going after au presidet vent liked long before ukraine became an issue . It is certainly true i take serious issues with the mpresident ters of policy, matters of character and ethics, his propensity for falsehood. But my republican colleagues conveniently forget the fact th for a long time, i was one of the relatively few senior members who was urging usoto move forward with a formal impeachment t proceeding,t we should take the process one step at a time, learn the facts. We should not rush to embrace this extraordinary remedy. It was only when this most serious conduct came to light that i felt we had no choice. There were questions of the procedures for that impeachment, not written in the constitution. Octhe ures you passed prevent republicans from issuing subpoenas unless democrats approve, or unless you personally aroved. Why not give them the opportunity to submit their own subpoenas . This is the same process and the clinton impeachment and the nixon impeachment. Although it hased been represe otherwise by my gop friends, the minority did n have unilateral bpoena power. They could compel a vote and thats the right we give them he. But we have seen from a lot ofag my cols, with their storming into the skiff and their history and fundamental lack of seriousness, indeed a view that they exist into the president s will to be the president s defenders. En the president says be more aggressive, they are more aggressive. When he says do th stunt, they do that stunt. That is not a group you canive subpoena authority to. A lot of people complaining about the secr chamber refused to take advantage they could participate. When transcripts are released, people will see it was fair that every republican im sorry to interrupt you but you said when they arere ased. And one with these hearings take place, which he just voted on, even though you have private depositions scheduled for monday . In terms of when they will be uthorized byat was the resolution passed today. We expect to release them soon. Sense of timing . I think early next week is probably the realistic time. We still need to go through some of the transcripts and excise any information or personal information. We just got word a judge has ruled that mr. Copper men, the former deputy National Security advisor, will not be compelled to test, or at least wonbe a decision on whether he will be compelled to testifyde until mber 10. That will affect him and his former boss, john bton. Do you have a beast risk a thaonse to there is noyo way to sue i dont like a subpoena. We have confidence the suit will fail, but the goal is to delay. As part of the obstruction effort. As they obstruct, they are building the case for article of impeachment based on obstruction. As they try to prevent us from getting relevant information, and we believe he has relevant information, even ashey tried to prevent the facts from coming to light, and i certainlyt exp if the admits ration thought it would, be helpful he would be coming in. He must have concluded they would be incriminating. But they are merely building the case for obstruction. Will you delay your hearings until you have a final word . It is my expectation we would see with the administration the me delay tactics. If they lose in the district court, they will appeal to the court of appeals. I think he understands hes going to lose that litigati hell be found to not be standing. It is his desire to try to avoid testifying, avoid the obligation had the courage to undertake. Adam schiff, thank you very much. Thank you. We reached out to more than 50 republican members to come on the progrno. Of them accepted our invitation. For the republican prospective, im joined by longti gop strategist, michael steele. Welcome to the newshour. Republicans have been criticized for the process, the last few peweeksfically that these depositions have been held behind closed doors instead o public hearings. Republicans had a chance to vote for public hearings. Why would they vote against it . I think its too little too late. If they voted weeks ago, it i think we will see closeddoor depositions. We will not e the robust open, fair, transparent hearings that marked the watergate impeachment hearing against bill clinton. Language that goes farther from steve scalise, number three in the house, accuse the democrats of imposing soviet style rules. How are these soviet when were democrats say they are in based on rules republican set when they impeached or tried to imach bill clinton . And some that were put in place by speake boehner. There is a lot of fairness to it, this is a secret proceeding behind closed doors. The news is released selectively by the majority. Been so far. At it those criticisms will not be valid when and if we get to televised hearings, one republicans ha the ability to confront these witnesses, and the American People can see and dge. What will the republican strategy be . It depends on what we find. The president ss defense that phone call is perfect is not going to hold up. It eems likely there will be evidence of quid pro quo, either elretrospect looking for information about interference that may have occurred in the election, if u

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