Raise awareness of the prevalence of Sexual Harassment. She recently shared her own story about being assaulted as a young congressional aide more than 40 years ago. Like so many of you, i have a me too story to share. I was working as a congressional staffer. The chief of staff held my face, kissed me, and stuck his tongue in my mouth. So i know what its like to keep these things hidden deep down inside. I know what its like to lie awake in bed at night wondering if i was the one who had done something wrong. I know what its like years later to remember that rush of humiliation and anger. Joining me now is congresswoman Jackie Speier of san mateo county. Tur so much for being here. Great to be with you, thuy. Id like to ask you about the russia probe. You sit on the house intelligence committee, and were hearing now that there are a number of witnesses scheduled for next week, but none for january. So what does this mean . What is going on . Well, we can read between the lines, i think, and there is a rush to try and shut this Committee Investigation down. And this week was a great example. Three interviews going on simultaneously, one of them actually off the hill with someone who comes to washington frequently, but they wanted to do it now. And so we were actually off the hill doing the interview, had to race back to vote. This is a circus at this point. So are they bowing to pru pressure from the white house . What do you think is going on . I believe that the president wants all of this shut down. He wants to shut down these investigations, and he wants to fire special counsel mueller. And is that what youre hearing, and is it going to happen before the end of the year . So the rumor on the hill when i left yesterday was that the president was going to make a significant speech at the end of next week, and on december 22nd, when we are out of d. C. , he was going to fire robert mueller. What do you make of that . That is shocking. If that were to happen, that is, you know, saturday massacre 2. 0, right . Mmhmm. It is replaying nixon tapes, and it would be just an astonishing turn of events. It would create a constitutional crisis. Now would democrats try to impeach him . Would you call for his impeachment . I think without a doubt, there would be an impeachment effort. But we have two houses controlled majority in each by republicans. And since the house has to impeach and the senate tries, an effort to try and impeach him would require 218 votes in the house, and right now there are only 194 democrats. Well, there is so much to watch. We will keep an eye on that, but i also wanted to ask you about Sexual Harassment as well. You have been so outspoken on this topic. This week we saw an exchange between President Trump and senator Kirsten Gillibrand of new york. She had called for him to resign because of Sexual Misconduct allegations. President trump then responded by posting a tweet suggesting that senator gillibrand would, quote, do anything for campaign contributions. What do you make of all that . Well, at the time i said it was grotesque and that it took my breath away. Imagine, this is the president of the United States making a comment like that of a colleague in the u. S. Senate. Now, hes done it to members of his own party in the senate as well, whether its Mitch Mcconnell or jeff flake or senator corker. And, you know, the truth is his conduct is so over the top. It crosses the line so often, not just with members of congress but with elected leaders around the world, that he is a real liability to us as americans. And, in fact, you are calling for an investigation by the u. S. Office of government ethics, and we should point out he has denied all 19 allegations of Sexual Misconduct against him so far. So he has denied all 19. At the very least, these women have a right to be heard. And im recommending that we have hearings in the house. If the government oversight and Reform Committee is unwilling to have those hearings, which the chair has basically said based on what youre alleging here, this is criminal conduct. Im referring this to the department of justice. We wrote back and said, well, weve had many instances in the history of the congress where there have been department of justice investigations going on, be it whitewater or fast and furious, any number of investigations where the house continued to do its work in terms of doing Public Policy investigations. And thats what we should be doing as well. We showed a clip from what you said earlier, when you bravely stepped forward to talk about your own experience with Sexual Harassment on capitol hill. And you have now proposed a bill. How would your bill change what you call the culture of Sexual Harassment on capitol hill . Well, first of all, let me say that weve taken a huge step forward. In 2014, i introduced legislation to require mandatory Sexual Harassment training prevention for members and staff. It wasnt even given an opportunity to be heard as an amendment. This year, weve already passed it, and it will take effect. The other component is the me too congress act, which will change the system, because right now it takes 90 days before a victim can actually file a complaint. Theres mandatory mediation. Theres a mandatory nondisclosure agreement. All of those things should be voluntary, and there should be a Victim Counsel representing the victim. So you will streamline the process. But is legislation enough, though, because you were in the California Assembly and senate. You wrote legislation mandating Sexual Harassment training, and yet we have a situation now in california where nearly 150 women signed a letter decrying what they say is the culture of Sexual Harassment in sacramento around the capitol. Yes. Let me tell you, that was so disturbing to hear about that after i had worked and seemingly had created an environment where there would be that kind of training. Well, training is not enough. It starts at the top, and you do have to change the culture. And youve got to make sure theres a place for victims to come and that they will have a soft landing afterwards. The reason why they dont come forward is they cant afford to to lose their jobs. We have just a little bit of time remain sog i have to ask you about the tax reform package. Republican leaders believe they have the votes to pass this. What are you hearing behind the scenes . Do they have the votes . I think they will have the votes to pass it. Its kind of ironic. This bill has not had any hearings. Its being introduced today so that they can take action on monday. We still dont know whats in it. We only have highlights right now. We havent even seen a copy of the bill. And this is going to be rushed through the congress and put on the president s desk so he can announce that he has given us a great Christmas Present. Well, its a great Christmas Present for those that are at the top end and for corporations, not so much for those of us that are on the other side of that spectrum. Congresswoman Jackie Speier, we appreciate your time and happy to see you here today. Thank you. Now to international affairs. Last week President Trump recognized jerusalem as the capital of israel. He also said he would move the u. S. Embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. The announcement was praised by israeli leaders but condemned by palestinians. Meanwhile, north koreas latest missile test is the most alarming yet, demonstrating a range capable of reaching the entire u. S. Mainland. For perspective on these international challenges, we hear now from leon panetta. He served as cia director and defense secretary under president obama. He was also white house chief of staff for president bill clinton. Director panetta, thank you so much for being with us. Nice to be with you. We have seen protests, some of them violent, over President Trumps announcement this much that the u. S. Is now considering jerusalem to be the capital of israel. Some experts have warned this could be an end to the peace process. What is your take on this . Well, i think it certainly was harmful to the ability of the United States to play a role in negotiations. We have always traditionally felt that jerusalem ought to be one of those issues that ought to be discussed as part of the larger number of issues to be resolved in a Peace Agreement between israel and the palestinians. And the fact that the president now has taken that off the table not only hurts our position in terms of being able to negotiate peace, i think it also sends a bad signal to others in the region with regards to their participation in a peace process. What do you think is the strategy behind making the announcement at this time . It does seem rather sudden. I dont understand frankly what the strategy is here because all of his National Security team plus the secretary of state all urged him not to do this. But he went ahead and did it. Now, you know, obviously he made a political commitment during the campaign that he would do it. He probably viewed it as fulfilling his campaign promise. But when you become president , there are much more important issues to consider than just whatever you may or may not have said in a political campaign. Another intensifying situation right now is north korea, and just about every modern president has been frustrated by the options there. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson is now saying that the u. S. Is open to talks and negotiations with north korea without any preconditions. Does this signal a shift in strategy by the Trump Administration . Well, you know, its hard to tell because secretary tillerson will say one thing one day, and then the white house will reverse whatever he said the next day. I hope that they do reach out. I hope that we can find a way to sit down and try to resolve these issues. North korea, without question, represents a very serious threat to our National Security. Do you think the approach so far is exacerbating tensions . We have senator lindsey graham, for example, saying publicly he thinks theres a 3 in 10 chance that the Trump Administration would strike first, and even a 7 in 10 chance that they were to launch another missile test. What kind of impact is that kind of language and rhetoric having on our relationship with north korea . Well, i dont think it helps very much. The problem is, is you increase these tensions, the chance for some kind of miscalculation or mistake increases. And the key right now, it seems to me, is that the United States has to continue a policy that really stresses containment and deterrence. And that means building up our military presence there, creating some kind of Missile Shield that will protect japan and south korea as well as the United States, and continuing to put pressure on both china and russia to increase sanctions and to try to urge the north koreans to sit down and negotiate. Thats really the primary strategy. A military option is and im very familiar with that, having worked on plans to provide a military option. The problem is there are no good options because the consequences would be the result of a nuclear war and millions of lives lost. And that, very frankly, is not an option that we ought to play with. Director panetta, i also wanted to ask you about the mueller investigation. We have seen a number of guilty pleas, including from michael flynn. What do you think the direction of that investigation so far, and where do you think it might be headed next . Well, i know bob mueller. I have tremendous respect for him. I worked very closely with him when i was director of the cia and he was fbi director. And i think he is somebody of great integrity. Hes a professional. He is a Law Enforcement official. His primary objective is to find the truth, and i have a great deal of trust and confidence in his ability to determine what the truth is here. Theres no question that the russians tried to interfere in our election process. That is supported by 17 intelligence agencies. The real question is what was the role of the Trump Campaign and individuals next to the president and the president himself as to whether or not there was any effort to, in fact, conspire with the russians in this effort. So i think the real challenge here is to allow mr. Mueller the opportunity to continue to conduct his investigation. Hes made good progress. Lets give him the room to determine exactly what happened and what the truth is. We have a responsibility to find out what happened, who was involved, and make sure that it never happens again. Mr. Panetta, we talked with you earlier this year right around the time of the inauguration, and back then you said you had some concerns about mr. Trumps governing style but that you would adopt a wait and see attitude. Its now about a year later. What are your thoughts on the direction that President Trump has taken so far . Well, ive been in public life 50 years and worked one way or another with almost nine president s. This president has clearly changed the office of the presidency. Republican and democratic president s always felt that the presidency ought to be dignified, that it ought to embrace the values of this country, that president s ought to work to unify this country, not divide it, and that president s ought to appeal to the best in americans, not the worst. In addition to that, this president has changed policies that both republican and democratic president s have embraced, whether its on trade, whether its with regards to climate change, whether its involving issues like jerusalem, whether its issues involving health care. And the president , in basically disrupting these policies, has not really developed a strategy for how hes going to replace what hes done. So i think the verdict at the end of this first year is that weve had a presidency in chaos. Whether or not it will straighten out, whether or not this president will change in office, i doubt it. That remains the question because i think the country is becoming increasingly concerned about the direction that were taking. Director panetta, thank you so much for being with us, joining us from monterey. Happy holidays to you and your family. And a happy holiday to you too and all of your listeners. All right. Thank you. We turn our attention now to the unexpected passing of San Francisco mayor ed lee this week. He died tuesday, reportedly of a heart attack. He was San Franciscos first asianamerican mayor and dedicated decades of his career to service in city government. Under his leadership, San Francisco enjoyed a boom in the tech sector and boldly embraced its sanctuary city status. But with the economic boom came skyrocketing home prices. Joining me now to discuss mayor lees legacy and where San Francisco goes from here are former San Francisco supervisor david chew, San Francisco chronicle city hall reporter rachel swan, and kqed government Senior Editor scott shafer. Nice to have all of you here. The Public Memorial Service for mayor lee is this weekend, and assemblyman chu, how would you describe his legacy . I think as were all reflecting and grieving, were all thinking about what that legacy is going to be. For me, part of it is going to be working with many of us at city hall to bring an era of civility and consensus building. He certainly he tackled the challenges of the day from working to bring us out of the Great Recession to addressing the housing crisis we have. I would say certainly for the chineseamerican community, his historical ascension as the first chineseamerican inour city, i think these are all parts of his legacy, and we will certainly be reflecting on more. Rachel . We came ed lee came up in ci hall as an administrator, head of public works at one point. One thing that was unique about him is he was very passionate about nuts and bolts type issues, not necessarily the things that drive headlines, but he cared about small businesses, about recycling and environmental issues, fixing potholes. These were the things that really got him going. Things that mattered to residents and neighborhoods. Yeah. And he was known for taking walks around the city, i guess, without his staff and visiting business owners. I would add to that, that hes going to have, i think, a complicated legacy, starting with how he became mayor. He was an accidental mayor. He never ran for office, never held office, never really wanted to be a public official, you know. But he stuck around and was here for seven years, and i think as assemblyman chu said, he brought a tranquility that had been missing. There was a lot of bitterness between the Mayors Office and the board of supervisors before that. He presided over a dramatic change in the city. I know well talk about some of those things. There were big winners and big losers, and i thing some felt that the citys character has changed in the last seven years, and its a very mixed record in terms of how people feel about that. A number of people would say the Tech Industry was the winner in all this. When he took