Creating Community Based on teamwork, camaraderie, overcoming obstacles. I think one of the central lessons whether or not you want to become an nearpt or not is this idea that Great Companies have a purpose above and beyond making money. We conclude with part four of charlies interview with steve bannon. Economic nationalism is what the country was built on, the american system. We go back to that, look after our own, our citizens, after our Manufacturing Base and this country will be greater, more united and powerful than its ever been. This is not astrophysics. Thats every nationality, race, religion, every sexual u are part of this populistn,e a economic nationalist movement and, by the way, thats 65, 70 of the country and we will get that. Sharapova, tough mudder and steve bannon when we continue. Rose funding for charlie rose has been provided by the following and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Rose Maria Sharapova is here. She is a fivetime grand slam tennis cham champion. One to have the worlds most recognizable athletes, ranked number one five different occasions in her career. 2016 she was suspended from competition for two years after testing positive for banned substance. The consequence was cut short after the panel found she didnt intend to cheat. She wrote a back called unstoppable my life so far. Im pleased to have Maria Sharapova back. Thank you. Rose a year ago, a very different time. A very different time. I remember this table and setting. It was my first interview. Rose tell me whats happened that you look to as sort of instinctive of where your future is. Yeah. Well, the first step of being back, back on the court, back playing has been incredible. Its what i wanted back when i was at this table. Its what i looked forward to, that competition that i miss so much of playing the game that, you know, that i have been doing since i was a young girl and getting that back in april is extremely special. Certainly ive had my ups and downs with injuries since that and having that memorable u. S. Open just a couple of weeks ago. Rose why was it memorable . Memorable for a few reasons. One because i hadnt played at the u. S. Open in a few years because of the suspension and previous injuries, and it was the first grand slam back after 19 months, and there is just something more in the air. There is just something, theres a sense of excitement, theres nothing like going out and playing a primetime match at the u. S. Open. Rose then you beat the number two seed. I beat the number two seed. I felt i came home to the hotel room after that match and felt happy. It was a really good feeling to have. The next day, didnt get much sleep. It was a latenight match after the press, after the treatment that you do and the recovery, you go to bed at 2 00 a. M. , 3 00 a. M. , i didnt want the sleep, i was so happy. Rose then what happened . Then i went on the fourth round. Rose what happened to the game . What happened to the game . It was a physical match and, in the end, i just didnt have enough. I didnt play smart. I felt like usually in those situations find myself playing with instinct, but i didnt feel like i had enough match play to really feel that yeah. Um, it was sad. I wouldnt say upset. I understood the situation rose which was your first tournament back. Yeah, it would have been my first grand slam back. Rose why . I understood the circumstance and knew it was a tough decision and therefore i couldnt be upset about it. I think i was sad because i wanted to be there and because the tournament is so special. When youre a twotime champion at that event and its a tournament you really want to come back at as a grand slam, it was disappointing, but i understood it. Rose so can you say now to me, look, i had a tough time, i had to face a difficult issue, i had to be away from tennis, and now im back, i just beat the number two seed at the u. S. Open, i feel good about my health, i feel good about my game, i feel good about my future, im 30 years old i feel like this is a life lesson. Rose a what . A life lesson. Rose yeah, you do. It is. I mean, very much so. Ive overcome a lot in the last couple of years, and we talked about it in depth last time i was here, and it was a difficult time. It brought out a lot of emotions, a lot of uncertainties, and i faced it head on, and im on the other side of it. Rose thats my question, are you on the other side . I am. I feel like i am. I feel that ive moved on. I feel that ive just being out on the court, it takes away Everything Else that goes on around me because its just me and what i have to do. Rose are you happiest on the court . Yeah, i love it there. Rose when you look ahead, is there any part of your game that still needs sharpening . A lot. A lot of things that i can take from the open, brave point opportunities, conversionings, serving smart, not giving them free points, being a little bit more consistent. I thought i moved pretty well after not playing for a long time, so that was a positive because, you know, the body has been struggling a little bit since i came back, but overall, yeah, im pretty happy with the future. Rose thinking about young women and young men who are just getting into tennis, where nobody hardly as young as you were. You went away to Tennis Academy between 7 and 9 years old away from russia and home to florida. Right. Rose looking at the experience youve had sip since then, tell us how important your foot work is. How important is the way you move on the court to becoming a firstrate player . It proved to be very important in the later stages. Youre 62 inches. I am. Movement is a huge part of tennis. So many quick steps. You see so many players sliding on the courts. Ton hard courts. On the clay courts i slide here and there but on the hard courts i barely do that if at all. But you see a lot of players doing that. Its become quicker and faster. Some of the surfaces such as the grass court the game has slowed down, the grass relies more on being in the point, getting yourself in the point than the serve and return you real lecounted on a lot. You still do but not as much as as in 2004 when i won it. Rose whos the most important influence on your tennis today . A lot of people. I think everyone, as i grow older, you know, you realize in every stage of your career you need different influences and different people, and what you needed as a teenager from a coach is very different to what you need today. Rose how is that . I think, when youre young, you need more you know, you need a little bit more discipline, get your mind in the right direction. Rose is it somehow what they call a parent . Its might be, but i always thought ive matured and ive realized that if its not you who wants it then no one else will for you. But the team rose parents cant give you that. You have to want it. You have to want it. They can want it as much as they can. Rose why you . And back to, you know, this my life so far, what was it inside of you that maude you want it . Was it that you loved it . It wasnt just winning for you. You wanted to defeat. Its rose its a Killer Instinct or a variation of that. As part of the process of writing this book, i started by looking at all the journals i have been writing since i was a young girl and a lot of them were just these repetitive words that im going to do well, im going to defeat this player, im going to play well, im going to concentrate, im going to focus, and i was probably eight or nine years old while im writing these words. No one told me to keep a journal. No one told me what to say. It was sort of this selfesteem confidence that i put on paper and in my mind and i never shared it with anyone else. So i think it was i dont know, i know i got an incredible opportunity. I think i realized it. Even though i didnt my parents didnt necessarily put that pressure on me, i wanted to deliver for them. Rose whats interesting here, too, is that you suggest you were not the quickest. No. Im still not. Rose and youre still not. Not the fastest. Not the fastest. Rose but you have stamina, or youve had stamina. Right. Rose the capacity to come after it stroke after stroke after stroke after stroke. Its, like, the repetition and the habit that you create with repetition. It was, like, when my mother was making me memorize lines from russian poets, i was too young to understand what they even meant, but for her it was like a lesson that this is difficult and hard for you and you might not know its meaning but the fact that you are in your mind reworking these lines and phrases and paragraphs and youre memorizing them, i developed a sense of discipline that ultimately take you to the court when you have to hit 500 balls at a time. Rose and you also paid tribute to Nelson Mandela for this idea that its not so much whats more important in life is the capacity to get up when you fall because you will inevitably fall. That is the quote that i start with in the book, yeah. I had that in my mind as i was writing the book, i mean, i love reading and i know that when you open a book theres either a quote or a passage and a dedication and, so, i thought every page of that book would be important, and i remember exactly where i contributed to each page. Rose how much does all the attention, all the recognition, all the time you spend on branding and the companies you have, how much time does that take away from the betterment of your tennis game . I wouldnt say it takes away i think it gives me a chance to step back and do things that are different to what i do. Because when youre in your world which for me is an athletes world, a tennis players world, youre so youre in this bubble, youre always around the same people. You know your team. And you really get out of it. Its great in so many ways because your focus and determination goes on to this one thing and one path, but i do think its important to branch out, and things that you want to work on and things that you want to be a part of, and i want to grow. Rose youre not going to play tennis all your life . No, i started when i was so young. I know that will be the best thing i know how to do, but that shouldnt limit me from wanting to grow in other areas of my life. Rose you went to so muchy after cher to sochi after chernobyl. You said if that hadnt happened your life would be different. Yes. Rose how would that have been . I think my parents would continue still living in belarus which is a very poor country, and i certainly wouldnt be playing tennis or living in the United States. So i would say very different. Rose part of this book is serena who just had a baby. Yes. Rose characterize the competition because im not sure what the latest is but at one point it was 192 in favor of serena. Yeah. Rose did she have your game, your number better than anybody or is she simply that good . I think its both of those things, definitely. Rose she has your game, in part. Yeah. Rose she knows how to win against you . Yes. Yes. And there are many things she does better than i do, yeah. Rose well, tick them off. Tick them off. laughter rose what do you do better than she . What do i do better than she . Rose yeah. I think a lot of that is intangibles. Rose yeah. I think she hits harder than i do, even though im an aggressive player. She serves better than i do. Yeah, i mean, there are a lot of things, yeah. Rose how much of the game for you is mental . The game of tennis, a lot of it is mental. Rose when we say that, what do we mean . When i think of mental rose the will to win, for sure. Yeah, i mean, i think the mental aspect are things that you dont youre not able to write down. The mental aspect of being in a situation when its tie break and third set, those are not things your coach can teach you. You begin playing by instinct. A lot of tennis and sports are run by numbers and there are facts and statistics and game plans and you know where theyre most likely going to serve based on their patterns. But when you get to that situation, you rely on your mind, your reaction, your experience, and thats all mental. Those are not those are not numbers, because i always have this debate with my coach because, you know, hes very much a numbers guy as well and, you know, he pulls out the tablet, shows me all the statistics and says tennis is very much about numbers, and i say, well, there are a lot of things that if you measure me against other players, if you take me to the gym and tell me to use these weights, squats, sprints or take me on the treadmill for this length, i will not win against anyone, but i can go on the court and beat them. If you measure me against those numbers, youd think i have no chance. Rose so whats the difference . That i have this will and that i have this ability to know that its not just about power, its not just about strength, its not just about endurance. Rose its about the mind and the will to win and the ferociousness of your mental attitude . I think also knowing its not about perfection. You know, its not always about being great. Something i say in the book, its, like, there are only a few handful of times in my career where i felt like i finished the match and it was flawless, that ive things happened according to plan and i hit the patterns and i knew exactly what i wanted to do, but so many times i came off the court and i felt like i played terrible. I made a lot of mistakes, but what did i do to end up being on the winning end of things . And thats what you those are the matches that give me confidence. Rose you should read, and im plugging the book because i read it and i thought it said something thats really incredible about him, tom brady, quarterback for the patriots, got a new book out called tb12, i think. Is it the diet book . Rose its more than a diet book. Its really an exercise book but its also an attitude book and basically the sense he was not the top draft pick, he never started in college or in the pros, when he was expected to be the starting quarterback. Yeah. Rose he worked his way up. Yeah. Rose he was never the fastest, he never had the strongest arm. No. Rose he had none of those things. Now, he worked on all of those things. Yeah, you have to. Rose but he started out simply knowing that he had to overcome differences in people who were more athletically gifted, had certainly been described as having more potential than he did at the time but he is now probably the greatest quarterback perhaps ever to play in the National Football league because of the same thing youre talking about. Yeah, i agree. Rose and the capacity to learn, and the capacity to be disciplined and to want to. I think its a choice that we want to learn. Rose yeah. Its not like rose somebodys forcing you to learn. Yeah, i think thats what makes those athletes great is they choose to want to get up in the morning and learn and get better and know and accept their weaknesses. One of the shifts i had in my career was also realizing what those were in order for me to improve on them and get me better. Rose you won wimbledon when you were 18. 17. Rose 17. But 17, grand slam, wimbledon, how many years ago 13 years ago. Has it worked out the way you wanted it to work out . If not, how do you hold yourself spoons snbl. Snbl responsible . Think as a young girl i knew wimbledon and the u. S. Open was the top of the top and thats where i saw myself and wanted to do really well. I wanted to hold those trophies, i wanted those championships. But what i really wanted, i wanted to get through the day and i wanted to feel like everything in that day, i did the best that i could. Something in my mind and i also believe its the discipline i learned from an early age is you put a string of those days together and you will get there. So i never had i never set a plan for myself, and i dont think its just not the way i rose so at that time when you were 17 and won wimbledon, maria, whats the most important thing in life . My guess is you would say winning tennis tournaments. If i ask you at 30, maria, whats the most important thing in your life . What would you say . People. Rose people, really . Yeah. Rose relationships. Elationships with people. Understanding rose are you good at that . I could always improve on that, yeah, definitely, but it fascinates me. I love understanding and speaking to people and picking their brain and i think thats really valuable, the people that you hold in your circle, the friends and the family, those are the people that are with you, and i learned that very well in the last few years. Rose and how did you learn that . Through experiences, through how theyre able to lift you up when youre when you dont have anything. Rose do you believe that you could have been perhaps a better friend or a better teammate or a better any of those things but you were so focused on winning that you didnt allow that relationship quality to bloom . Absolutely, definitely, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Ive always been very career driven and i think thats certainly its been a limiting factor and particularly in relationships, definitely. Rose its been a factor in relationships because you were so obsessed by winning. Not necessarily winning but doing everything that i, in the future, do not have regrets because i dont like living with regrets. Rose so looking ahead, whats possible . Many things. Rose and, so, what are you hopeful about other than better relationships . im getting better. Rose grand slam wins . Yeah, those are definitely there. The commitment. You know, i hope for continued commitment for myself, the effort. Rose does it get harder . Because there are more choices now . No. No. I think i mean, ive had a lot of choices in my career. Ive had to make a lot of choices, and ive always chosen to be an athlete, and thats whats given me the biggest satisfaction, and something i know the best, because ive done it for so long is that and you do the best. I once asked ted williams for example why baseball . He said because i did it well early on. People said, gee youre good, i wanted to be better. The more they said i was better, i wanted to be even better. People like doing things theyre good at. Yeah. Rose and one of the great early things we should all probably achieve is find something that we have great natural instinct and skills for. Its not easy, though. I was fortunate my parents helped me with that, that someone like martina who was able to see a talent in me when i was only five years old or the fact that my father was able to pave this way for me and find the right people for me that guided me letterly to this stage of center court at wimbledon. Rose unstoppable, my life so far, Maria Sharapova. And there she is, too, right there. How old were you then . Seven. This is my first year in florida. Rose this is with nick bolnickbollettieri . Yes, and my dad cut my hair there and it looks awful. Rose much