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captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you begin how? >> kind of pulling the team together. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something -- >> now that it's couple full circle. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >> rose: tell me the continuance of the moment. we again by the news of the week. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. >> rock music fans have lost another great, walter becker, the guitarist and co-founder of steely dan has died. >> texans continue picking up the pieces after hurricane harvey. hurricane irma shows no signs of weakening. stilt a powerful -- >> l tale of destruction 30 the caribbean. >> congress is back in session. >> north korea may be preparing to launch another missile. >> show that he is begging for war. >> wildfires are jumping the northwest. one has jumped over the columbia river. >> democrats start with funding for hurricane harvey victims. >> donald trump jr. is heading to capitol hill for a meeting on russian election meddling. >> ending the program that allows young immigrants brought to this country as children to stay. >> this handcuffed woman in texas pulled a hug houdini act. >> stole signs during games using an apple watch. >> people are trying win whenever they can. it is an educated guess. >> texans won't have to odo this alone. >> a.j. watt l followed through with his promise, houstonians got trucks full. ♪ the sky that we look upon should tumble and fall ♪ >> rose: we begin this evening with hurricane irma which has devastated countries in the caribbean and is now moving quickly towards florida. here is the cbs evening news report recorded earlier this evening. >> good evening, i'm jeff glor, anthony mason in new york. mandatory evacuation zones, people moving north to escape the worst of hurricane irma. this is what it did in the cribban home after home destroyed. >> now the forecast models seem to agree, south south florida will take a brutal hit this weekend, the entire state may face hurricane-force winds. late today the national weather service tweeted, this is as real as it gets. nowhere in the florida keys will be safe. you still have time to evacuate. >> we will have the latest on irma's path, just a moment let us get to our team of correspondents, we begin with mark strassman in miami, strangely calm after so many left. mark. >> stampeded into gridlock ton florida turnpike. -- on the florida turnpike. at this miami high school among 40 shelters in the area more than 1,000 people were turned away. >> wait in line the buses will be picking you up. i want you folks to be safer okay? >> reporter: stood in line to buy propane water and food. attorney general pam bonde called some by name. >> 7-eleven, come on, this isn't time to make a buck, but to help your fellow citizens. >> told people to evacuate, including sherry schwartz, she wroirworried what she had to coe back to. >> i'm afraid, i'm afraid there might not be much. >> it's that worrisome. >> reporter: tony and rachel cotington will ride out irma in their condo many with a three week supply of food, hurricane shutters and a great view of the storm when it barrels through here. >> i'm not sure if it's a good thing or bad thing but we'll definitely see what's happening. >> was it a tough call? >> a very tough call, i want nothing but a place for my wife and my dog. i think we can manage to a degree but it is area. >> reporter: it's friday night in south beach, the place should be packed with people but take a look, this place is closed for business. jennifer, anybody in irma's path should be in a safe place by noon tomorrow. >> mark strassman, thank you. craig setsler is tracking irma, craig. >> jeff, here's the latest this evening, latest advisory at 5:00, winds still at 155 miles an hour. the category 4 is a little deceiving because the speed only has to increase by five miles an hour to make it category 5 again, right on the edge of category 5. here is the wind field, that red area is the hurricane force wind and the inside accountst core, the eye wall, that's the most destructive part. the forecast track shows the storm battering the cuban coast through the night tonight, through day tomorrow, then it comes to a key turn right there starting to move north towards the florida keys, the latest advisory categories 5 going into the keys sometime during the early morning hours. and the sunday 2 p.m. time frame, closes to south florida, miami, any shift to the east could bring that destructive core right into the metropolitan area. then the rest of the state still under the gun. it's up in the tampa area where there's increasing concern for storm surge there, orlando, the wind threat and finally it begins to wind down. jeff, the keys haven't been hit by a category 5 hurricane since 1935. that was catastrophic, category 5 hurricanes are very, very rear. rare. ♪ ♪ >> rose: we turn now to politics. there was a rare instance of bipartisanship this week in washington. president trump blind sided congressional republicans in a surprise deal with top democrats, chir chuck schumer ad nancy pelosi. to fund the government through december, rejecting from steve mnuchin. joining me from washington is jonathan swan. national reporter for axius and i'm pleased to have him back on this program. let's talk about the daca decision, the republicans he didn't do what they wanted him to do. he threw it back to congress. the decision may come back next year and may be a continues being controversy which republicans fear may hurt the election in 2018. speak to that for me. >> well, so i had a conversation with a source who had spoken to trump on friday, last week friday. and this is when two days before, it was written that his decision had been made on daca, he was going to rescind the program, but give this sort of six month window for congress the act. this source came away om the conversation with the president, convinced that his mind was not made up. and daca has been something i can't speak to why, whether he genuinely feels for these kids who are brought to america, through no fault of their own, by their parents, and you know had been shielded temporarily by the obama administration or whether he just understands that the politics an the media for him, the images of him getting rid of this program will be so bad. but for one or other reason he has grappled with this in a way that he hasn't grappled with any other policy decision throughout the first eight months of his administration. he has been very reluctant to rescind daca. i still think it's a very open question what happens in six months. there's very little chance congress will deal with this because congress can't deal with anything. and if trump has to then revisit it in six months' time who knows what he'll do? >> rose: who is urging him to go ahead and rescind it now? >> oh jeff sessions, the attorney general. i mean so trump has been -- i mean their relationship, you know, effectively died -- it will never be what it was but it effectively died about four months ago, or whenever it was that sessions reaccused himself from overseeing the -- recused himself over the russian situation. sessions has been in the icebox, they haven't been communicating one on one, look at the picture of his face before he did the press conference announcing that they were rescinding daca. he has this boyish grin on his face. sessions has lived for this. steven miller who is a senior white house aid has lived for this. he worked for jeff sessions. when they worked together on alcohol in thcapitol him, hill. they would push stories about lil immigrant crime, did whatever they could to kill that legislation. this has come full circle. that's what sessions took that job to do things like rescind daca. ♪ ♪ >> rose: one of president trump's most important advisors during the campaign where he was ceo of the campaign and later at the white house where he was chief strategist is steve bannon. he is not only influential but controversial. in his first interview since leaving the white house to rejoin breitbart news, i talked to him about the white house and his other than philosophy of government. the interview will run, in two segments on 60 minutes this weekend and longer version on pbs on monday night. >> economic nationalism is what this country was built on the american system right? we go back to that. we look after our own. we look after our citizens we look after our manufacturing base and guess what this curch y is going to be greater than its ever been. every nationality, every race every religion every sexual preference as long as you are a citizen of this country, as long as you are an american citizen you are part of this populist american movement by the way that is 65, 70% of this country. that's we'll get that. sure brown gets this, tim gets this the people around schumer get this, they're trying to get the identity politics out, they're trying to run, the only thing around us is it a left wing or right wing populism and that's a question that will be answered in 2020. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> rose: sharl cro sheryl croa nine time grammy winner over her 25 yie career. -year career. the album is called be myself. >> many times on stage i've talked about every day is a winding road, which was out, say, 20, 23 years ago, was a younger person looking at the road ahead. and there is a lot of looking back at the road i've traveled on this record. >> rose: even to the extent of sort of listening to all the great songs that you have written and performed? >> yeah, i went back and revisited it because i wanted to remember the spirit of some of the early stuff. and how we got to that place, that felt liberated, and i really feel like this record is celebration of liberation from being in the world of competitive radio, commerciality, there is something great about being my age. >> rose: and something freight -- i agree with that actually. >> there are some things that aren't great about being my age. >> rose: i agree with that too very much. but there is something if you can appreciate it, and in fact you've had the kind of a life that allows to you enjoy it. >> yeah, i've had some real low moments and all those low moments have some ways carved out the space for the big joyful moments. i think all that stuff was freely sort of documented on this record. >> rose: when rolling stone said toughest and best in a decade, when they use the word toughest, what do you think they mean? >> it's hard to know. somebody heard it and that was their interpretation. out it in the fact that it iss a return to the way i used to make records which was just a couple of us in a room, some drum autographs and me on base and jeff trot my worthy musical husband, for years, co-writer, on the guitar and really getting to the heart of it. you know there's not a lot of dressing on this record. it's just very in-your-face. and i think we really i think tackled a lot of big things. >> rose: like what? >> you know, i'm raising two little boys. and in this period, of our evolution, as humans on this planet, there's so many things that are infiltrating our little people's minds and that our -- i guess in some ways informing them about who they are when you consider that the internet is just this dangerous place that you have to try the protect them from. and cell phones and social media are constantly telling them what's awesome and what's likable. and it's just -- it's the wild west. and for me, as an artist, i get to sit back and talk about what that is to me, what that feels like as a parent. what it feels like as an american, particularly during this election, a lot of what happened in the election informed what's on the record. halfway there which was the first song they put out really addressed the loss of civility in our dialogue. and it really just begs the question is there no way to agree to disagree? ♪ ♪ i know what's best let's disagree to disagree ♪ ♪ that youal know the rest yeah ♪ >> rose: did you have a sense of urgency in making this? >> i had a real sense of urgency. i don't know if i could go in to make a record that i couldn't write it fast enough. verses would come out in full chunks. that in 25 to 30 years of writing has never been the norm. but there was a lot going on you know? and what a great opportunity to be an artist and to try to give voice to what so many people around me my age was discussing. and there's liberation in not writing for 13-year-olds. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> rose: we turn now back to an archive moment. here is rafael nadal the tennis player who was a semi finalist at this year's u.s. open tennis tournament in new york. >> we don't have much style in tennis, it's not a long period of time you can rest and you can have plans to hold it, to adapt a little bit, the schedule, currently in the year to find your moments. and then, in december i want to do a few things for my foundation, and then play some matches in south america, that's a place that i don't have a chance to go very often, and i feel very close to the people in south america, lairk latin amer. and play for a season. >> rose: when you look back why you, why is rafael nadal as good as he is? what made you who you are? >> combination of things. first thing i have to say, thank you very much to the life the give me the conditions, the events, the conditions is coming from ever, physical performance. bun but then it's true that i always had the right people around me. especially my coach and uncle, that was in my career my family too. >> rose: what did he give you, toughness? >> yes, when i was a kid he was hard with me. he let me practice every day with the highest intensity, let me practice every day with -- under pressure. and i'm 100% sure because of that, today, i'm able to be strong mentally and to be strong in the tough situations. >> rose: how did he do it? >> he was -- >> rose: tough, demanding? >> he was hard on court. he was very strict. he was, you know, a -- he let me play with pressure. because he push me every -- in every moment a lot. >> rose: you have a remarkable eloquence, too, in the way you handle the post game. it comes from the heart more than anything else, yes? >> well, the event, you need to feel it. and matches like yesterday, you dream to be involved on these kind of matches when you're a kid to have the opportunity to be there, so for me, that's just amazing. and i try to play with everything that i have. i try enjoy every moment as much as i can. i play with my heart. i try to -- to be ready for all the challenges. but at the end, most important thing is, be happy. and then be happy. noettes ♪ ♪ -- ♪ ♪ ♪ >> rose: the actor jake gyllenhaal has a movie stronger. a man who lost bot legs in the boston marathon bombing. here is an excerpt. >> not just the event, a lot of people see and hear the story, we tend to move towards that, when in truth it's everything that happens after that. we tend to focus on the people who have done this horrific crime and the moment itself, and not very often do we stay with the people who are the survivors who get through it. and jeff's story was -- it's incredible, his story. >> rose: this happened at the boston marathon and there were people like jeff there at that event. had to recover. >> yes. >> rose: we know some of those stories, some of the stories we don't know. but american men and women in the armed services in iraq and afghanistan are facing this all the time. >> all the time. >> rose: all the time. >> yes. i think what i realized after this film and i don't know if it's necessarily, it's a larger group, than even this, you know? what this inspires or what this story seems the inspire is every single person's story of struggle. >> rose: right. >> you know? i think particularly for this country now the idea of being able to move through, you know, into a space that of home, you know -- hope -- you know is what jeff gives us. all those men and women of the military who have either served or have been injured or getting through, they're a constant inspiration in the same way. but i think it's bigger than that. it's all of us. every person has a story, a story of struggle and jeff somehow gives them hope. >> rose: so it's really not recovering from losing your legs it is a story struggle. whatever it is. whether it's an diction. >> yes. >> rose: or whether it is failure in life? >> yes, i mean, when this trailer came out i went down this strange rabbit hole. i love this movie so much. it came out and there were these funny things where people watched the trailer, they videotape themselves watching trailers now, you can watch on youtube and you can go down the legitimate rabbit hole. and i went down it one night. and the stories that came from people watching at the end of this trailer, they weren't just stories of people who have suffered sort of unspeakable things like jeff did but people who said, you know, my mother suffered from ms and when i see the thing that says strength defines us it makes me think that is what we think every day. or my father has parkinson's, whatever it might be. that's what jeff says. he says if i'm okay, you can be okay too. >> rose: did you spend much time with him? >> tons of time. we spent pretty much six to eight months before we started shooting and then when we started shooting, he was not as much there. i think that was a very interesting process for al all f us. we texted every day. he didn't come to set as often. he came one day we were sheeting a td garden for a bruins game. now we're very good friends. we talk every day. >> rose: jake gyllenhaal talking about his amazing sister maggie gyllenhaal. she has a fantastic show called the deuce. this evening. >> here's what new for weekend, new york's fashion week is underway. the movie adaption of it, opens in theaters. >> and greg allman's final studio album, southern blood, will be released. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> and here is a look at the week ahead. sunday is the men's since finals at the u.s. open tennis championships. monday is the 16th anniversary of the september 11th terrorist attacks. tuesday is the start of the u.n. general assembly. wednesday marks the 32nd anniversary of nintendo's release of supermario brothers. , thursday is the feast of san genero in new york's little italy. friday, sir paul mccartney performance at madison square garden. saturday is the women's hall of fame 2017 induction ceremony. >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week." thank you for watching. we'll see you next time. for more about this program, visit us at pbs.org and charlierose.com. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" was provided by: for several centuries, scotland was ruled from london. parliament hadn't met here since 1707. recently, the scots voted to bring their parliament home, and london didn't object. in the year 2000, edinburgh resumed its position as home of scotland's parliament. scotland's strikingly modern parliament building opened in 2004. the catalan architect enric miralles mixed bold windows, wild angles, and organic themes into a startling complex that would, as he envisioned, "surge from out of the rock and into the city." >> rose: welcome to the program. we begin this evening with hurricane irma which swept through with devastating consequences several caribbean countries, now moving towards florida. we begin this evening with cbs news. south florida's last-minute evacuees stampeded into gridlock on the florida turnpike. traffic stood still for miles. >> rose: turning to politics we talk to jonathan swan of axios. >> here's the real question, there are something like 50 or 55% of americans who cannot stand donald trump. the question is, if he starts doing more things that chuck schumer and nancy pleasey would like him to do, do some of these people then start to say, oh, well, maybe this guy is actually pretty good and maybe i'll vote for him. i don't know the answer to that question, but he's surely goi

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