So i think that is a little bit of a factor. Right now our hospitalization space is tight. We have adequate space, but we watch it very carefully. And the spike in cases that weve seen is a concern. I think it reflects what were all looking at nationwide in terms of going into the winter, a combination of flu, the combination of more indoor settings. So it is concerning. And were making preparations for it. But we have to really pull together to follow the guidelines that are necessary to keep the economy moving, but at the same time make sure we dont increase that spread. Brennan when you say preparations are being made, do you need to set up field hospitals as alternates to your current hospitalization . Governor as the mayor indicated, we have contingency plans. But we have more than adequate space right now in our hospitals. The challenge is, of course, there are a lot of other Health Care Needs that you dont want to reduce or put aside because youre dealing with covid patients. So we have more than adequate ventilators, i. C. U. Space. Staffing is a challenge for our hospitals because its becoming a National Competitive environment to recruit staff with contractors, to move them to hotspots and other places. And so that is the most consistent challenge that our hospitals are facing. Preparationwise, were working very closely with them. But it is primarily individual responsibility of our citizens to do what is necessary and pull together. Increase usage of masks. You see in arkansas, in compliance with the mask mandate that we have in place. Brennan you are a republican governor, and youre calling for more maskwearing. Our cbs polling shows that in virtually every state, when the question is asked, likely voters tell us the trump administrations efforts have hurt more than helped states Covid Response is. The fact that the president doesnt wear a mask and endorse it, even though he says he is okay with it, does that hurt your ability to persuade your constituents to do what ou are telling is best for them . Governor well, it makes it confusing. He has made it very clear that wearing a mask is important. I saw him wearing a mask going into the polls yesterday. But obviously with the rallies, there is confusing messages there. The president and leaders in crisis always need to do two things one is to be truthful and realistic. And everyone knows were going through a very difficult crisis, and it is going to likely get worse as we go into the winter. Secondly, youve got to give the American People hope. And that is the vaccine that the administration is working incredibly hard for. I spoke with secretary az azar this week, talking about the partnerships of the state and vaccine distribution, and theyre working hard at the white house level, but the communication is an important part as well. Brennan the pfizer c. E. O. , when he was on our program recently, he said he thinks it is difficult for the government to hand distribution. Are you confident that even when a vaccine becomes available youll have full access and ability to get it to your constituents . Governor actually, there will be a utilization of the private sector in the vaccine distribution. It will go directly from the federal warehouse, or from the manufacturer, straight to the point of distribution in the state, with the state acting more like a traffic cop to make sure it gets to the right place. But the private sector will be absolutely utilized in this. These plans are still being developed, but weve submitted our plan. It will band well be getting a response to that from the white house probably next week. Brennan i want to ask you about another thing that our Battleground Tracker has shown in three different southern states. When likely voters are pulled, they say it is inappropriate for the president to lead the chant lock her up. You know there has been an f. B. I. Plot to kidnap and kill her. Youre the Top Republican on the National Governors association. There are threats that have been reported against multiple governors. Do you think it is appropriate to lead these kind of chants given the level of tension and threats . Governor well, thats not a chant i would ever participate in. You know, we need to have a more civil discourse. Even though its a hotly contested president ial race. We need to lead by example. Whether it is a president , whether it is his staff, or whether it is a governor or any public official that has ahreats made against them, and we have to take that security seriously. 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Doctor good morning. Brennan you warned us last sunday we are entering what could be the hardest part of this pandemic as we get into these colder months. Were seeing these infection hospitalization rates really jump. Where are we on the trajectory, as you see it . Doctor were at a dangerous Tipping Point right now. Were entering what is going to to be the deep slope of the epidemic rate. These cases are going to continue to increase. We have a moment of opportunity right now to take some forceful steps to try to abate the spread that is under way. But if we dont do that, if we miss this window, this is going to continue to accelerate and it will be more difficult to get under control. In a lot of parts of the country, it doesnt feel really, really bad right now because it is a little bad everywhere. When you dont have regions where it is extremely dense in one region, like when it was epidemic in the north or south, outside of states like wisconsin or iowa, most states just have a lot of spread, but theyre not extremely pressed right now. That is going to change over the next two or three weeks. So we need to take some steps right now. There is no public support for shutdowns nationally, like we did in the spring. That is not going to happen. So we need to reach for other measures. Brennan you heard the National Security advisor to the president say the focus is on protecting the vulnerable, the chiefofstaff, mark meadows, said on cnn, were not going to get control of the pandemic. Is the point here just buckle up . Doctor well, i think thats what theyre saying. But i dont think thats what we should be doing. There are things we can do to slow the spread. A National Mask mandate can be put into place. It doesnt need to be backed up with fines. We have other requirements we expect of a civil society, with political job voting and leadership. We give people warnings. Masks are one thing we could be did. We need to look at starting to close congregate settings. Even if we get a vaccine this year, and im on the board of pfizer even if that becomes available this year, and we get shots into the arms of the first trench of patients, the elderly and health care workers, theyre not going to have protective immunity until 2021 because it takes time for that vaccine to kick in and you need two doses. This vaccine is not going to affect the contours of what were going to go through in the next two or three months. Brennan and the c. D. C. Has said masks are the best plan for the moment. Last week you told us if someone is going to vote in person, they should have a highquality mask. You said that meant not a cloth mask. Walk us through what the safest masks are. Doctor the masks serve two purposes one is to protect other people from you, so if youre asymptomatic or prepresymptomatic, you will protect other people. And the other is to provide you some measure of protection. If you want a mask to afford you some protection from other people, quality matters. The cloth mask may be 30 protective, a level two or three mask may be about 60 affective. And n95 mask or what we called an ffp2 mask, that could be 90 or 95 protective. So wear a Higher Quality mask. If you only can get a cloth mask, thickness matters, and those with polyester, and a combination of polyester and co cotton do better. Brennan thank you. At the white house, masks are not mandatory, and we know that the Vice President had close contact with staffers who have tested positive. The c. D. C. Advises everyday people to isolate or quarantine if they have that kind of contact. The Vice President is not doing that. Is he putting others at risk by campaigning . Doctor look, he could be closely monitored. The short answer is yes, but you can closely monitor the Vice President. I can see why they wouldnt want to guarantee the president. He should be wearing a highquality mask at all times, distancing wherever possible. They should be serially testing him. And there are ways to provide protection around the Vice President and to protect other people. But they need to be very complicit about the risks that theyre taking. I think everyone right now in the white house should be wearing a mask. They have an obligation to protect the Vice President and the president and not introduce virus into that setting. They certainly have access to proper protective equipment. They have access to serial testing as well. One thing they might consider for the Vice President is using one of these antibody drugs as a propro phylactic. Brennan and he would have access to Something Like that, whereas you and i would not have access at this pointologye point. On the vaccine, operation warped speed, announced their timeline. They said by the end of january, all seniors will be vaccinated. By march or apin april 2021, they should be able to vaccine everyone. And he is confident by june everyone in the u. S. Will be immunized. Is that realistic . Doctor i think it is aggressive. This is if the trials provide that the vaccines are safe and effective. We believe that is going to be the case. But you dont know until you turn over the card on those trials. Assuming things go well, there is a chance they could roll out this vaccine in time to get the Elderly Population in the United States vaccinated. But they need to wait a month to get the second dose until they have protective immunity from the vaccine. Youre looking at 2021 until the immunity kicks in. I think it is unrealistic to think well have a vaccine widely available for general distribution and authorized by the f. D. A. Until probably the Second Quarter of 2021. Brennan understood. Thank you, dr. Gottlieb. Well be back in a moment. When you humble yourself under the mighty hand of god, in due time he will exalt you. Hi, im joel osteen. Im excited about being with you every week. I hope youll tune in. Youll be inspired, youll be encouraged. Im looking forward to seeing you right here. You are fully loaded and completely equipped for the race thats been designed for you. Brennan as part of our continuing efforts to hear from voters in the coronavirus pandemic, on friday night we zoomed with six voters, evenly divided on their voting preference. They were also divided on their thoughts about the impact of the virus on this campaign. Were looking at numbers across the country. And i know, chelsea, you are in indiana, i believe. So youre right in the middle of the midwest, where there is a tremendous spike right now. What do you think the impact will be on the election from covid . Generally, i think the lack of response is, um, energizing people to vote. Im pretty positive that just how chaotic this has all been and there hasnt been, like, a very clear this is what we should be doing has really frustrated a lot of people. And because of that, they want to see someone else who might actually have a plan or might try and take charge. Brennan what is it that you see in joe bidens plan that makes you think it would respond to the crisis . Well, actually listening to scientists. Youve heard trump call fauci an idiot, which i think is really dangerous. Hes gone back and forth, and hasnt really even taken a position on maskwearing. Joe biden is at least for maskwearing. My concern with the coronavirus is quite simply there has not been any transparency about it. When it first came up, it didnt seem maybe i was missing something but it didnt seem as important. When you make a mistake and say you can take bleech tbleach to cure coronavis and then you say you were just kidding, well, people are dying. You cant get on television, no matter who you are, and say take bleach and you were just kidding. That is nothing to kid about. Brennan will all of you, show of hands, take a vaccine when one becomes available . Mildred, i was reading that you miss hugging your grandkids. And the social isolation youre in, you still dont want to take a vaccine . I do want to be around my grandkids. But i think being a guinea pig, i wont be here for my grandkids and i wont get that hug. So therefore, i wont be the first one taking a vaccine. No vaccine is 100 affective, especially with the viruses because they mutate so much. So i just think that trump has put his foot up the collective butt of the f. D. A. To get them to do their job in a timely manner and not just push paper like bureaucrats typically do. Brennan so you would take one tomorrow if it became available . Absolutely. Brennan dave, you, too . Youre saying yes . Absolutely. And it is not up to him to release the drug. It is the f. D. A. Until the f. D. A. Releases it, youre not going to get it anyway. Brennan i wonder who all of you think bears the most responsibility for the spread of this virus in the United States . Do all of you believe in Wearing Masks . Can you raise your hands if you wear a mask. Beth, you dont wear a mask . I do in public spaces where they insist that you do, but otherwise, no. Brennan when you hear the statistics that are rattled off by the c. D. C. Director or you hear dr. Fauci saying wearing a mask could really stop the spread, why do you doubt that . Because a virus is a virus. The particle is so teeny tiny that it cant be seen without a microscope. While pro phylacticlymay help, certainly if i was around someone who was old and ill, i would do it, but the virus is a virus. It is so small. I think your best offense is a really good defense. Be healthy, eat well, exercise well, sleep well. Brennan do you believe that the United States could have done better in its response to the virus . A show of hands. Beth, dave, and walter, you all think that the response was adequate. Walter, youve lost friends . How do you respond to an unknown when you have absolutely no idea what it is. They acted to take care of people as best as they could. You shoot from the hip. I think that the job that was done was magnificent compared to the circumstances. Brennan when you look at the population in the United States and the access that is here, why dont you think that america should be leading the way . I think we are leading the way. I think the reason brennan even though we have about 20 of the worlds and all of the traffic that came into the country with the disease, whether they knew it or didnt know it. And in many of the instances, the way the states handled it, like new york completely secured up their response, infated the death rates. Brennan so take President Trump out of it, are you telling me that fault really lies with local governments . On the state level, its gotten to a point, and it was obvious from the outcomes in new york and new jersey, that what they did was completely wrong. Where along the line, the responsibility for taking on ownership of the virus and what needs to happen should go forward. It was communicated it is the governors who run the states responsibility to do the things. The governors didnt know what to do. Well, nobody did. Nobody. But the buck stops in my household, what happens here, im responsible for. Uhhuh. Im responsible. So i cant do everything that needs to be done, but im going to try to exemplify and acknowledge and take responsibility and go forward. I think it is just kind of wrong to say trump couldnt do anything because that interview came out i dont remember if it was january or february he knew how deadly it was, and he knew how it was spread, and yet he still didnt do anything. He said he didnt want to create a panic. People panic anyway. He didnt say anything. Its not that he didnt do anything. I think in this case, he absolutely needed to say something. Because people were going around blindly not knowing what to do. If there was some kind of response from him, maybe governors and local governments might he did act. He shut down flights into the country. For which he was vilified for. And now the same people who vilified him for shutting down the flights is saying he didnt do enough. You cant have it both ways. The c. D. C. Said even if he didnt shut it down, it wouldnt have mattered because the virus was already here. January 31st but there was no response nationally but you dont know what youre dealing with. It is just like a fireman going to a fire. They assess the situation and then they move in. This is a lot different. You can see a fire. This you cant see. Brennan i want to give mildred the final word here. I dont think they knew what to do. This, when they started to think about it, youve got politicians and money that became involved. So the waters got muddied. Very muddy. I just think a lot more could have been done to save lives at the federal level, at the sa state level, and at the local level. Brennan well be right back. Heres how my p