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chip reid makes the introduction introduction. >> reporter: they are graceful, smart, and very unusual. you would really have to go to outer space to come up with someone more different from us than this. >> reporter: they say this is like being kissed by an alien. and they are right. ahead on "sunday morning". wow! >> pauley: we will be hearing from carlos ghosn this morning, the man behind the caper that's captivated the world, just how did the accused auto executive make good on his escape from japan? charlie d'agata has many, many questions. >> my only hope of being able to defend myself, get out of the country. >> facing charges of financial misconduct, former nissan chairman carlos ghosn claims he had no chance of a fair trial in japan. >> so what does it say to the people who speculate he smuggled himself out of the country in a box? >> everybody's talking about the box. >> good for them, good for them, yeah, but i am the only one who knows exactly what happened. >> later on sunday morning, carlos ghosn speaks out on his great escape. >> pauley: our sunday profile, is kim novak, a star from the past who's happy to have left hollywood behind. with mo rocca, we will be paying her a visit. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: kim novak was one of hollywood's great screen sirens of the 1950s. but these days, she is more at home with her art and her animals. >> are you kind of a hippy chick at heart? >> yes, i am. >> later on "sunday morning" -- ♪ it must have been a love -- >> kim novak. >> pauley: is a proposed federal law protecting the rights of working women during pregnancy long overdue? as many as a quarter million expectant mothers every year certainly think so. jan crawford will have some of their stories. >> it's supposed to be one of life's most joyous events. >> it really is an economically disastrous decision for many working women. >> getting pregnant can be an economically disastrous decision. >> absolutely. >> ahead on "sunday morning", why so many women are losing their jobs just because they want to start a family. >> pauley: kristine johnson visits with gram my nominee gary clark, jr. seth doane explains why pistachios are green gold. steve hartman uncovers a new branch on his family tree. and more. first, the headlines for sunday morning, january 12th, 2020. >> deadly storms sweeping across the country have killed at least 11 people. seven confirmed tornadoes struck the south. snow and ice were the danger in the midwest. even this salt truck in wisconsin wasn't safe. and in the east, record heat. it was 67 here in new york yesterday. iran's stunning admission that it shot down a ukrainian jetliner last week after days of denials has done little to calm the crisis. all 176 on board perished, many of them headed to canada. holly williams is monitoring developments from baghdad. >> >> reporter: at first iran denied it, calling american allegation also that it shot down the boeing 7:30 seven a big lie. >> but yesterday's iran's president hassan rouhani finally admitted his country had downed the plane through human error and it exploded after being hit by surface to air miss silence, the iranian military said an operator mistook the jetliner for a cruise missile. just hours after iran launched missile strikes against u.s. military forces in yierk. the attack was retaliation for the u.s. assassination of a top iranian general. >> 57 of the victims were canadian, 82 were iranian. a mass vigil in iran turned into an angry protest against the government, with president trump tweeting his support. iran has apologized but also laid part of the blame on the u.s., the country's foreign minister said this disaster came at a time of crisis caused by u.s. adventurism. for "sunday morning", i am holly williams in baghdad. >> pauley: cbs news david martin has confirmed more than a dozen saudi royal air force pilots will be expelled from the united states the move follows a review of a shooting at the pensacola naval station in december by a fellow saudi pilot. the shooting left three people dead. queen elizabeth has reportedly called a family meeting tomorrow to discuss the new royal rift. it follows the surprise decision by prince harry and his american wife meghan to step back as senior royals. meghan won't be there. she is in canada with son archie. now for more on today's weather. still warm across the east. calmer across the south, while a new storm moves into the northwest. for the week ahead, cold and snowy across the northern plains. winter, in other words. >> pauley: next, prepare to be amazed. can my side be firm? 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>> i say this is one of the most beautiful creatures on this planet, one of the smartest, one of the most interesting, and one of the most alien. >> in fact, they are portrayed in movies as aliens. >> that's right, and as monsters. >> reporter: yes, hollywood octopuses have torn down the golden gate bridge. they have destroyed ships. >> hello, beastie. >> and feasted on movie stars. >> montgomery says it's unfair to demonize them. >> you would really have to go to outer space to come up with someone more different from us than this. their mouths are in their armpits. they have three hearts. they have blue blood. and the grace. i mean, who has grace like this? >> montgomery spent countless hours here studying these other worldly beings while writing her book "the soul of an octopus." >> do you believe the octopus has a soul? >> i believe if i have got a soul, this octopus has a soul. >> and that she claims is not the only thing they have in common with us, with humans. >> when i met an octopus for the first time, i was so struck by the fact that she was just as curious about me as i was about her. >> she knows me. >> wow! look at that. may i? >> yes. absolutely. >> hello there. >> we went behind the scenes to see for ourselves with the help of senior aquarium biologist, bill murphy. it turns out that calling an octopus curious is an understatement. >> ah, she is more interested in you than the food. >> that's scary. >> it felt like she wanted me to join her in her octopus's garden. >> she is powerful. >> yeah, you feel the pull in the muscle. >> a big part of murphy's job is keeping rudy from getting bored. >> because they are so smart, we try to keep them mentally stimulated and interactions like this help with that, because they are figuring us out and who we are and what we are doing. >> reporter: there are about 300 species of october pus but the giant pacific octopus is the largest, averaging 16 feet in length and 110 pounds. it's also the longest lived octopus, even so its lifespan is only about three to five years. >> they have such personalities each octopus is different. so when you work this closely with them and you are interacting with them on a regular basis, you build a relationship with them. >> that's got to be difficult that they live such short lives. >> it is, it is. it's very difficult, but you enjoy the time you have. >> to learn more, we headed down to cape cod where we met bret grasse of the marine biological laboratory in woods hole, massachusetts. >> this is beautiful. >> yeah. it's pretty good day in the office, huh? >> he is responsible for the care and feeding of the lab's octopuses and comes here to stock up on their favorite food, tiny grass shrimp. >> so kind of poke and move along? >> yes. exactly. >> got some jumping around in there. >> next stop, the beach for another octopus delicacy, crabs. >> three -- >> whoa! look at them all! there you go. >> just grab and scoop. >> back at the lab the day was about to get a lot better for a small california two spot october bus and a lot worse for one of those crabs. >> this is going to be quick. >> bon appetit. >> don't blink. and there's the lunge. >> of all of the octopus's oddities perhaps the most extraordinary is its talent for disguise. watch that again in reverse slow motion. the octopus changes its shape, colors, patterns, even the texture of its skin to look like seaweed and does it in the blink of an eye. it's called dynamic camouflage. >> i would argue that dynamic camouflage is a form of intelligence. that video was shot by roger hanlon, seen juror scientist and a stop octopus researcher at the marine biological laboratory, who recently gave a ted talk on octopus intelligence that went viral. >> it doesn't just happen instinctively, they actually think and decide how to camouflage themselves. >> that's right. this is not a reflex. this is a decision-making process. they are taking into account the surrounds for camouflage, but also an approaching threat. and they are calculating all along about what they are going to do next. >> for example, the moving rock trick, the hide-and-seek trick, and the suit of armor made of shells. as a scientist hanlon is skeptical about attributing human like emotions to the octopus or comparing their level of intelligence to ours. >> see them go all dark? >> but he does say they are stunningly creative. >> this is a complex animal. it is making decisions, all of the time. that takes a big brain. >> a big brain in a unique and mysterious creature that scientists are only beginning to understand. >> it feels like shaking hands with an alien, just like they say. ♪ ♪ >> pauley: ahead -- ♪ ♪ ♪ on top of old smoky. >> pauley: it's arthur godfrey time! ♪ ♪ all cover with snow ♪ hidiabetes and heart disease, but is his treatment doing enough to lower his heart risk? 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>> oh, i knew that i was taking risk. i knew that if -- i was putting people around me in the loop, not only they were tabling the risk, but it is risk of any slippage, any rumor, any leak would be very high and they would kill any project like there. so i had to work by myself only with people who are going to operate, you know, there was nobody else. this was a condition and the other condition is you need to think fast, act fast, and make something simple, daring but simple. >> reporter: this was the most -- this was the most difficult decision of my life. >> he doesn't dare share the details for fear of incriminating his cohorts but it reportedly included a team of around 15 people, including a former u.s. green beret and a price tag running into the millions. >> and a box. this box. >> can we talk about the box? >> was there a box? >> , no i am not going to talk about -- >> everybody's talking about the box. >> well, good. >> except to. >> except you. >> good for them, good for them yeah but i am the only one who knows exactly what happens. >> what investigators belief happened is that the industry giant stuffed himself into a box for concert equipment, holes cut in the bottom so he could breathe. >> here is what it looked like when a japanese news reporter tried to get into a box of the same size. ghosn was then spirited away on a private jet bound for istanbul on route to beirut where we spoke this past friday. report other all right. >> was there a moment in the box that you were thinking, what has become of my life? >> you know, i am a very realistic person. i know that, you know, success not last forever. fortune doesn't last forever. there are ups and downs in life. you have to confront tragedy as strongly as you confront success. andand even though i didn't hava lot of shortfall this one was a big one, and it was a test for my resolve and for my character. >> reporter: how the auto titan fell into trouble is as compelling as how he got out of it. he was hailed a hero when he pulled nissan back from the brink of bankruptcy in the late 1990s. >> when you make an investment you are doing it for the long-term. >> reporter: the ceo with with the rock star swagger enjoyed the trappings of success, hobnobbing with the global elite in davos bobbing around on his his $10 million yacht. >> globe-trotting on board private jets .. even hosting a marie antoinette theme party at the palace of versailles. >> but when profits began to plummet in 2018 nissan executives accused him of not disclosing exactly how much he was taking out of the company, among other charges. >> he was arrested and charged with financial wrongdoing. he said authorities kept pushing back his trial date and that he was barred from even communicating with his wife. and in a country with a 99 percent plus conviction rate, he says he never stood a chance. so i am sitting here alone in a country which is not mine, in a system that i don't understand. i have everything, you know, all red signals everywhere, i said, my only hope of being able to defend myself, get out of the country. >> make a run for it. regardless of the risk. >> at japan's request, interpol has issued what it calls a red notice not only for ghosn but his wife carol. >> whether or not you were guilty of the charges before you fled, you are certainly guilty now of fleeing. you are a fugitive of justice. what's the future hold for you? >> i wouldn't say i am fugitive of justice. i am fugitive of injustice. that's the way i would put it. i don't feel bad about it because the way i have been treated and the way i was looking at the system, frankly, i don't feel any guilt. >> last week the lebanese government issued their own order, restricting ghosn from leaving the country until further notice. not that he's anxious to go anywhere. he's got property here. he grew up here and remains something of a local hero. >> after i landed in beirut on 30th of december, it was kind of rebirth for me. it was like, i was breathing again. i was breathing again. >> reporter: a new life for now. and carlos ghosn says he is willing to face the charges and answer to everything, eventually, just not in japan. >> just yes or no, innocent of all the charges? >> yes. >> you planned the escape yourself? >> yes. >> were americans involved in the escape? >> no -- no comment, no comment. >> i will take that as -- no comment. >> okay. we can look into that as well. has hollywood approached you about your story? >> yes. >> is is that a reality? do you see that happening? >> why not? >> and my last question is the first question, the box, was there a box? >> no comment. >> no comment. >> i wasn't going to wait around. >> pauley: still to come, catching one kim novak. but first grammy nominee gary clark, jr. ♪ ♪ ♪ in about 5 minutes and earn five times the national average. open one from here. or here - in a capital one café. plus, there are no fees or minimums on savings or checking accounts because that's how it should be. this is banking reimagined. what's in your wallet? let you sleep, try nyquil severe with vicks vapocool. 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>> uh-huh. he. >> that's what he says. >> he said i haven't seen anybody like that since jimi. >> damn. pressure. >> jimi, as in hendrix, and it turns out this 35-year-old is still allowing comparisons like that to sink in. as he told us, when we sat down with him on his ranch in texas. >> texas. >> it doesn't really resonate until i am at home, and i am going wow, this is real. you know what i mean? like all those dreams and hopes and aspirations i had had as a kid and i thought were silly and i was scared to share with people because they might think that i'm, you know, out of my mind? >> reporter: gary clark, jr. is from austin, texas, the son of gary clark, sr., a car salesman and his wife sandi, an accountant. mom still does his books and says her son's life changed prefer at age 12. >> he got the guitar for christmas and then checked out a couple of books and was just totally self-taught. >> he was upstairs in his room playing and i told her, i said come here, come listen to. this got up the stairs a little bit closer, open up the door and there he is, listen, he's hitting note for note. ♪ ♪ >> is that the day you realized? >> he's got a gift. >> yeah. and he said, sandi, he's really good. >> the very next year, clark was good enough to play gigs in the city, on school nights no less. >> i used to feel guilty having him in the nightclubs and i'd look around why do i have my 13-year-old kid in a bar? >> why did you? >> because he wanted to be there. >> i was raised real religious, baptist, go to church every sunday, the fear of god was very present in the house, you know what i mean? >> reporter: we caught up with clark on the set of his latest music video ♪ ♪ i remember when i met her in the pearl cadillac. >> reporter: pearl cadillac is about leaving home to go on tour for the first time and understanding everything his mother had done for him. >> i didn't realize what it took to be a parent. ♪ ♪ i won't let you down. >> i was like, wow. >> it's work. >> they put up with a lot. like a lot, a lot. i was like, dang, thank you. >> for example, his parents put up with his borrowing the family car without their permission. that earned him the nickname hot-wire. >> i would steal my parent's car, and start that thing up and just go wherever i wanted from till whenever my dad fell asleep watching star trek until, you know, when they woke up to get everybody ready for school. >> and today we are joined by gary clark, jr. guess we could say local blues phenom. >> in 2001, gary, just 17, was featured on the local news. ♪ ♪ well you can tell me all you want to, i ain't worry no more ♪ ♪ >> that same year, austin's mayor proclaimed may 3rd gary clark, jr. day. >> how do you measure success? >> i got a beautiful family. i've got two kids that i am crazy over. i got an amazing, supportive wife who is like my backbone. i think that's success to me. >> his success has also allowed him to buy his own piece of texas hill country. >> this is my peaceful zone. this is my serenity. >> reporter: it's so different than when you are on stage. you have got your screaming fans up there. and you have got your guitar going. >> my life is so loud and noisy. and i like to hear the crickets. at heart, i am kind of a country boy. i like to be around nature and nothing. >> clark's ranch outside of austin is where he lives with his wife, australian model, nicole trunfio and their children. ♪ ♪ until i am gone i am going to love you just a little bit longer, baby. >> it's also where he records music when he's not out touring the country. >> and it was this land that gave clark the material for the title track on his latest album. ♪ ♪ ♪ this band is mine ♪ >> the song is about a confrontation with a neighbor who couldn't believe that a black man could own this land. >> he said, i need to speak to the owner of the house. and i'm like, dude, you are talking to me. ♪ ♪ go back to where you come from. we don't want your kind. >> you know, i am 35. i have been dealing with this since i was in elementary school. you know what i mean? >> that's a sad statement. >> yes, it is, but it is a reality. >> a reality clark's parents couldn't shield him from. >> dog feces in the mailbox. the n word written on our fence. >> and what was the discussion in the household when those things happened? >> you just can't let that get to you. that's that other person's issue. it is not about -- that doesn't speak to you as a person and what kind of person you are. that's someone else with the problem. >> i was born this way and i love it. you know what i mean? and so for someone to judge me based upon this and not ask any questions, and not even try and get in here, it just made me upset, it made me sad, it made me curious about the future, having kids and a family. you know, they tap into your emotions. >> so it's not all about you anymore. >> yeah, they unlock things that i didn't realize i was holding on to ♪ ♪ >> gary clark, jr., he is considered one of the greatest guitarists in a generation. but don't tell him that. >> i'm not special. i'm just a simple dude. simple dude from austin, texas. who picked up a guitar and pshh. ♪ ♪ >> pauley: coming up -- >> my favorite -- >> pauley: steve hartman's family secret. >> we say that to all of the -- and help heal your skin from within with dupixent. dupixent is the first treatment of its kind that continuously treats moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis, even between flare ups. dupixent is a biologic, and not a cream or steroid. many people taking dupixent saw clear or almost clear skin. and, had significantly less itch. that's a difference you can feel. don't use if you're allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur, including anaphylaxis, which is severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems, such as eye pain or vision changes, or a parasitic infection. if you take asthma medicines, don't change or stop them without talking to your doctor. so help heal your skin from within, and talk to your eczema specialist about dupixent. it took plenty of work to get here. but it's still important to be prepared for what's next. at fidelity, we can help you build a clear plan for retirement without the unnecessary fees you might expect from so many financial firms. we'll make sure you can cover the essentials, as well as all the things you want to do. because when you have a retirement partner who gives you clarity at every step, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward. ♪ here's wishing you the bluest sky ♪ if your mouth is made to amaze, let philips sonicare give its care a raise. get healthier gums in 2 weeks guaranteed. give it philips sonicare. next level clean, next level care. there's always a way to make life better. philips sonicare you have power over pain, so the whole world looks different. the unbeatable strength of advil. what pain? >> pauley: you may recall rita braver's report last weekend about people who eve unearthed family secrets things dna testing. count our steve hartman among them. >> reporter: it was in this cellular that i found my roots. >> that's the tin with all the film. >> davina shuman, a relative i never met, graciously gave me this glimpse. >> be my guest. >> of the family i never knew i had. >> the levys were a conservative jewish family from cleveland. their patriarch, harry levy, the bald guy there, is my great grandfather. >> and in the spring of 1930, one of his four daughters we don't know which, gave birth out of wedlock to my mother. >> davina, one of harry's legitimate grandchildren, says no one ever knew about this baby. >> it would be scandalous, really, in those days for this family. >> my mom died knowing none of this. she was raised by another couple. no formal adoption. no paper trail. so if not for dna testing, my ancestry would have remained a secret. a recent survey showed about a quarter of the people who take these tests find some kind of surprising result. or in my case, two surprising results. >> the test was more definitive regarding my grandfather an irish catholic railroad worker named frank black. >> i am steve. >> there is his other daughter, carol, my new aunt. >> i see a little bit of my mother in you, actually. >> do you? >> yes, i. >> do and my uncle, also named frank black. together they told me all i needed to know about my grandpa. >> how many wives? >> five. >> five wives. >> right. >> so this is not an a-plus character? >> he was about the d-minus. >> are there any good characteristics? >> in the 30s he ran for office for councilman. >> oh, and he won? >> he lost. >> he was really a drinker. ing okay. >> st. patty's day came. >> i don't want to hear about st. patty's day. >> he'd dress up and we didn't see him for three days. >> not exactly the astronaut war hero i was hoping to find. we were the apples that fell off the tree and rolled away. [ laughter ]. >> it certainly does make you question who you are. i grew up an eagle scout who went to catholic school. now i find my grandpa was casanova and the levys were jewish. >> i am jewish now. >> yes, if your mother is jewish, you are jewish, no question. >> i never knew that. >> mazel tov. >> but my new relatives all told me, none of that matters. >> i just want you to come for thanksgiving. >> my favorite nephew. >> look deep enough and into your past -- >> you say that to all the nephews. >> and odds are you'll find a family tree 0 full of flowers and broken branches and a lot of leaves you don't recognize. but i think it's important to embrace it all because whatever's there, it's exactly what your tree needed to grow the perfect you. >> pauley: next on pistachio patrol. really. >> >> pauley: from our seth doane this morning, a story that is a little nutty. >> in the skies over sicily, mayor till tripolice force carabinieri are on patrol, protecting a product worth tens of millions of dollars. >> we do this kind of patrol, both by helicopters and ground patrols to prevent the thieves. >> to prevent pistachio theft? >> yes yes, nicolo morandi is on pistachio patrol, after all, this is a place famed for this flavorful nut cultivated in the fertile shadow of mount etna. >> it is a unique forest on the desert. >> the paparo family has been in the biz for a good 200 years, with harvest only once every other year two, years of work come down to about 20 days. have you had problems with thieves? >> sometimes in the past, yes. >> what's happened? >> one, two times, some bad people comes with a gun, something like this. >> they'll come armed for pistachios? >> yes. of course, of course. >> at the paparo family farm, aroma sicila, the labor intensive picking, shucking and drying only add to the price. >> in just this little storeroom these bags of dried pistachios are worth about $33,000. it's an appetizing target for thieves. >> for about five years during harvesttime, the carabinieri have been patrolling and setting up roadblocks. it's working. no thefts reported in recent months. did you ever catch anyone red handed? >> not this year, but in the past year, we did it. this year, we catch three peoples that are trying to steal almonds. >> al alexandria ocasio-cortez mondays? >> yes. >> more problems than just pistachios? >> yes. really. >> captain morandi acknowledges there are more serious problems in sicily, but here, this little nut is big business, earning the nickname "green gold." green for its color, gold for its value. and as for an almond patrol? well, stay tuned. >> come on over by the fire. >> pauley: a visit with vertigo's kim novak is next. >> why don't you play by the rules. >> >> i get so tired of just being told i am pretty. >> pauley: it's "sunday morning" on cbs, and here again is jane pauley. >> pauley: the 1955 movie picnic with william hold ken,, holden and a young kim novak who went to a bigger role on a classic hitchcock film just a few years later. these days, she playing a very different role, a wife from hollywood. >> mo rocca has our sunday profile. >> on exhibit at a recent art show in youngstown, ohio an interpretation of alfred hitchcock's 1958 film "vertigo" which starred jimmy stewart and kim novak. >> the artist of this painting? none other than kim novak. >> my art is really my love. it's where my heart is, you know,. >> i have been following your movies since the fifties. >> oh, thank you. >> you are amazing. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> in the 1950s and early 1960s, kim novak was one of the biggest stars in hollywood. she's most famous for vertigo, about the obsession of a retired police detective with a mysterious blonde named madeleine. and his attempts to remake a brunette named judy into madeleine. >> if i let you change me, will it do it? if i do it what you tell me, will you love me? >> yes. >> both women were played by novak. was it a challenging role or i should say roles for you? >> well, you know, it's absolutely wonderful because the wonderful thing about alfred hitchcock is, in one way, he is obsessed with changing you in the physical sense of the character has to be exactly the way. but he allows you total freedom in the way you play the part. >> but freedom doesn't exactly describe the studio system that controlled hollywood in the 1950s. when harry cohn, the head of columbia pictures, put a then 21-year-old marilyn pauline novak under contract, he intended to make her over, starting with her name. >> he wanted me to be kit marlowe. you see, they made up their mind behind my back. we all decided your name is going to be kit marlowe. i said, i am not going to be kit marlowe. how can i be kit marlowe? i said, i understand i won't be marilyn, but i will not be kit marlowe. >> novak's upbringing in chicago seemed to have prepared her well for standing up to the man time mag 7 once called a "hollywood despot." >> harry cohn was frightening, my father was frightening. they had that in common. novak's father was a railroad father and strict with his youngest daughter. >> well your father had tried to make you right-handed, right? >> yes. yeah. >> when we spent time with novak on her ranch in rural oregon, it was apparent that her conflicted feelings toward her father remain raw. >> i loved my father. i adored my father. but he terrified me. he was a fine man in his way. >> but he was tough. >> he was a tough man. i loved him. and i hated him. but i loved him more than i hated him. >> when it came to dealing with harry cohn, the newly named kim novak had a novel approach. >> you brought him chocolate. >> i brought him chocolate fudge at christmas. and i remember him actually tear up. >> did you have affection for him? >> no. not really. although in a way i did, because he made good movies, you know. he always picked out good movies for me and i appreciated that. >> good movies like 1955's picnic where the 22-year-old starred opposite william holden. >> if this dance scene crackles with electricity, novak says that's because a tornado was approaching the kansas town where they were shooting. >> and i think the electricity in the air had so much to do with all that we were feeling, and we were both charged with all of that energy that was out there. >> the life of an actor wasn't something novak expected, she thought she would become a poet or a pager, but modeling work brought her out west. >> when you got to los angeles were you thinking i am going to take this town? >> oh, god, no. i was so shy. >> soon, novak was working with some hollywood heavyweights, in front of the camera and behind, including hitch hitchcock who gw exactly how he wanted his leading lady to look. >> tell me what the wardrobe for vertigo. what happened. >> i went to edith head, you know, that suit's going to drive me crazy. and i have to wear black shoes and i hate black shoes, and she says, well i think my dear you better talk to alfred hitchcock about that. >> the gray suit novak wore as madeleine was form fitting. >> he said yes my dear, that's exactly what i want you to wear. i think you will be very happy in that. >> he wanted you to be uncomfortable. >> exactly. that's what i realized. i have to have that discomfort. i need to feel uncomfortable in it and that's the way my character should feel. >> did you like hitchcock? >> i adored him. >> but novak didn't always adore hollywood. when harry cohn died suddenly in 1958, she found herself professionally adrift, offered mostly beach movie scripts. >> in 1966, she left hollywood. >> you know, i wasn't going to wait around. >> right. >> and i thought, you know, what i'd like to do if -- if i have my choice, i want to go to big sur and go back to painting. and for better or worse, i left hollywood. >> i let in very few people in my life, and i got involved with animals in my life. >> and not just cats and dogs. >> i had to learn to -- who i was again through animals, because animals know who you really are. >> the animals don't care about box office. >> exactly, or money or anything else. >> with all the animals in her life, it's perhaps no surprise she married a veteran nairn, robert malloy. >> novak's life these past few decades has been quiet, even idyllic, mostly. >> in 2014, when novak made a rare public appearance at the oscars -- >> it has been a long time. >> social media lit up with vicious comments about her appearance, including one from a soon-to-be president trump. >> i had a skin doctor give me fat injections, which were in the wrong place, which made my face look fatter, but i still would have rather trump hadn't said that. >> and so did mr. trump. in an interview with "the new york times" in 2015, he said about his tweet, i would have preferred i didn't send it. that was done in fun, but sometimes you do things in fun and they turn out to be hurtful. and i don't like doing that. >> novak sought refuge in her painting, as she has for most of her life. >> what did painting do for you after you came home from the oscars? >> it -- it was a tool for me. it was a tool that i could express what i was feeling, whether it was good feelings or bad feelings. in that case, it was bad feelings, but it was like all of a sudden, who cares what donald trump or what anyone else thinks of you. >> painting is more than an avocation for her. at that recent show in youngstown, ohio, she felt the love. >> thank you so much. >> i love you. >> thank you. >> now on the cusp of turning 87, kim novak is still finding herself. >> well, how much of kim novak was a put-on, an act, a persona? >> all of it and none of it. i don't know. and i don't understand what i said, but yet i do. >> pauley: still to come, the impossible choice. you either work at full capacity or you go home. >> pauley: but first a farewell to buck henry. yroll. and now i'm back on top... with koala kai. 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>> well, it's a normal weight restriction for women when you are pregnant. >> and if you can't lift 50 pounds -- >> i couldn't even lift the stretcher, it was 100 pounds without a patient on it. >> michelle saw it as a temporary hurdle, assuming she could transfer to one of several open desk jobs for a few months. but her employer rural metro told her they were reserved for people injured on the job. >> michelle's only option? 12 weeks of unpaid medical leave, that would run out before she even had her baby. >> it was baffling. it really was, to help so many people and then not have help from the company that was hiring you to help these people. >> reporter: it's a story told hundreds of thousands of times every year across america. you can get the job. just don't get pregnant. >> i have a son. i have to feed him when he needs something. i have bills to pay. >> reporter: hacheler cyrille was a passenger services representative at jfk airport in new york. with a six-year-old son and another baby on the way, she was determined to keep working throughout her pregnancy. but one day she stumbled while putting a heavy suitcase on a luggage belt and got pulled onto it. >> i'm screaming, anybody can hear me, stop the belt. i am thinking about am i going to die? am i really going to die? she was rushed to the emergency room. he is didn't lose the baby, but she says she effectively lost her job. he is too had asked for a less physically strenuous assignment during the remainder of her pregnancy, but her employer refused to reassign her. they are only thinking about them. they don't think about you as a worker, because we do the most hardest job. they are not thinking about you. >> roughly a quarter of a million women a year don't get the accommodations they need to keep working. gillian thomas is a senior attorney with the aclu's women's rights project. she says even though the pregnancy discrimination act passed in 1978, from wall street to wal-mart, pregnant women are still being forced to leave their jobs every day. >> it really is an economically disastrous decision for many working women. >> getting pregnant can be an economically disastrous decision. >> absolutely. >> that's because under the current federal law, while employers are prohibited from firing or refusing to hire pregnant workers, they aren't always required to make any on the job accommodations, such as offering more bathroom breaks or temporary desk jobs. >> between 1997 and 2011, the number of pregnancy discrimination charges filed at the eeoc went up by 50 percent. >> and sometimes it leads to even more tragic consequences. i went through college and got a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and psychology. >> so you were always interested in criminal justice. >> yes, yes. >> and then when i found prison system i found like i was a good fit. >> sarah coogle worked as a corrections officer at the california correctional institution. >> i wanted to do things the right way, go to school, then get the career and then have the family. and we put things off for a while. >> in 2017, after three years on the job, sarah got the news that she and her husband michael had been waiting for, she was going to have a baby. >> extremely excited, yes, but then scared, because then, oh, my gosh, now what? >> sarah spoke with her manager. >> she goes if you bring in any note from your doctor that restricts you, you'd be unthe it for duty. you cannot work. >> so they were willing to make no accommodations with a whatsoever. >> whatsoever. >> needing to pay the bills, sarah saw no choice but to keep working. >> everything was fine for a while. then in her seventh month of pregnancy, a prison alarm goes off. >> it's an instinctive run. and the next thing i know, i am going down. >> immediately, felt pain in my lower abdomen. >> sarah went to the er, where doctors reassured her, thankfully, her baby was okay. nine weeks later, she went into labor. >> and the doctors in there, he's looking for the heartbeat and he is over here on my left side. he say there is no heartbeat. it didn't occur to me that my baby was gone. >> when sarah fell in the prison yard, she had a placental abruption, her placenta had separated from the uterus. her baby, mackenzie, was delivered stillborn. >> they wheeled in the baby and she's wrapped in a pink blanket, and that's how i found out i had a girl. it really is a hobson's choice that frankly no woman should have to be faced with. a woman who has been told by her physician you have to take the following precautions at work in order to have a healthy pregnancy. she presents those to her employer and is told, no. you either work at full capacity or you go home. stand with peggy. standing peggy. >> the supreme court weighed in on this issue in 2015 ruling for a pregnant ups employee peggy young, who was denied light duty during the last months of her pregnancy. but despite that decision, two-thirds of pregnant women asking for accommodations at work have still lost in court. >> i think that there is some unconscious bias there that because pregnancy is voluntary or a chosen condition that in some way it's less deserving. >> there's been some progress. 27 states have passed laws that require employers to offer pregnant women the same accommodations they would make for workers with a disability. but many say what is really needed is a new federal law. under the 41-year-old law, it's a very, very challenging for pregnant women to bring a claim and to prevail to get the support and relief that they need. >> enter cwngresswoman suzanne bonamici, a democrat from oregon and congresswoman jaime herrera beutler, a republican from washington, they are cosponsors of a new bill, the pregnant workers fairness act that would make it easier for women to get temporary accommodations during their pregnancies. >> it's good for the health of the economy as women make up over half the workforce, right? >> herrera beutler has had some firsthand experience. she has had three babies while serving in congress. >> we are asking for a reasonable accommodation which is exactly the exact same standards as the americans with disability it is act, here you can have a bathroom break here or the policy is no water here but you get to carry your water with you. >> these are reasonable things, most people would expect this already is the law, i would think and it is not. >> but we hope it is soon. >> reporter: but congress has considered this bill with different sponsors before. for the past seven years. in october, it finally got a hearing, but there's still a long road ahead. >> i don't think this is an equality issue. this is an equity issue. because last i checked men can't get pregnant. >> this is the little beanie that is in the picture here. >> reporter: since our interview, sarah coogle settled with the department of corrections. she's also joined a class action lawsuit to try to change the policy on accommodations for pregnant corrections officers in california. and she's pregnant again. >> i look at this as hope. that this is what i'm still fighting for. >> if there's a woman that was thinking about getting into law enforcement, i would, at this point, right now, i would steer them away from the department of corrections because there is not a department for you, because they won't care. and if you don't want to accommodate me, accommodate the baby. >> hacheler cyrille gave birth to a healthy baby girl in october. she's filed a discrimination complaint with new york city's commission on human rights and is still unemployed. >> if all of us make a voice, things can change. >> yes. >> michelle durham sued her former employer, ambulance service procedural/metro and a judge ruled in favor of the company, saying the law does not require an employer to provide special accommodations to its pregnant employees. her appeal will be heard this weak. i know it won't change what's happened to me. i know it won't change where my path is going. but it needs to be corrected for somebody else. >> all right, ready? 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