Architect with a good job. That whole exterior. Happily married and coaching his tenyearold sons Little League. But then something awful happened. He went blind, and that threatened to end his career. Is that different . Oh, yeah. Or did it . Im a kid again. Im relearning so much of architecture. It wasnt about what im missing in architecture, it was about what i had been missing in architecture. ticking we cannot explain what you are about to hear. Science doesnt know enough about the brain to make sense of alma. Alma deutscher is an accomplished british composer in the classical style. Shes a viuo and the violin. And she is 12yearsold. People compare you to mozart. What do you think of that . Of course, i love mozart, and i would have loved him to be my teacher. But i think i would prefer to be the first alma than to be a second mozart. ticking im steve kroft. Im lesley stahl. Im scott pelley. Im anderson cooper. Im bill whitaker. 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The man standing on the right in the yellow shirt is Kevin Mallory, who once held a top secret security clearance while working for the c. I. A. And the Defense Intelligence agency. Footage from a surveillance camera at a virginia fed ex store in april 2017 caught him as he prepared to hand a clerk stacks of classified documents to be scanned onto an s. D. Card the kind that can be inserted into a mobile phone. Ryan gaynor so this is the rare moment, right, in an investigation in an espionage case, where we actually have video footage of the individual preparing the classified material for transmission to the foreign intelligence service. Cooper we watched the tape with ryan gaynor, the f. B. I. Supervisory special agent who investigated mallory, and jennifer gellie, who prosecuted the case against him for the National Security division of the department of justice. They say Kevin Mallory sent National Security secrets to a chinese spy on a covert communication device. Jennifer gellie so here you see him talking with the store clerk about the scanning job. And throughout this video, you see little pops of yellow little yellow pieces of paper that flash by when hes showing the documents. That was important for us, because the document that he successfully passed consisted of a type informatollowed two yellow sheets of paper with his handwriting on them. And here, you can see cooper so thats the those are the yellow sheets of paper . Gellie you can see the yellow sheets going through that scanning process. Cooper prosecutors say some of the information mallory sent could have revealed the identity of a couple who had secretly spied on china for the u. S. It was a very personal betrayal. Mallory had supervised the couple years before. He was betraying people. This is peoples lives at stake. Gellie correct. These were documents that specifically talked about human beings, whose lives could be in danger. Cooper if they had traveled to china, they could have been arrested. John demers at the time he gave the information to the chinese Intelligence Officer, he knew they were planning on traveling to china. Cooper john demers is the top official in charge of the department of justices National Security division, which helps guard the u. S. Against terrorism, cyberattacks, and espionage. Hes responsible for coordinating activities across Law Enforcement and u. S. Intelligence agencies. He says Kevin Mallorys recruitment is just one of many efforts by the Chinese Ministry of state security, or m. S. S. , to spy on the United States. What is m. S. S. . Demers so, m. S. S. Is the principal Intelligence Agency of the chinese government. And in rough terms, it is like the c. I. A. And the f. B. I. Put together. Their capabilities are world class. They have cyber capabilities, they have expertise in turning people into cooperators, and they have all of the tools and expertise of a very capable intelligence organization. Cooper john demers says Kevin Mallory hadnt worked for any u. S. Intelligence agency in five years, but he was still of interest to china. He spoke mandarin, was desperate for money, and had classified information he might be willing to sell. Demers youre looking for people who will be willing to work with you for one reason or another. You start very slowly. You start to see what information they are willing to share with you originally. Innocuous information. Then, something maybe slightly more sensitive, and so forth. And that relationship develops over time. Its a patient process. Cooper its a grooming of an intelligence asset. Demers its a grooming, and its a constant testing to see what the person is willing to do. Cooper the chinese didnt reach out to Kevin Mallory in a dark alley, like in a movie. They made contact with him like any job recruiter would. They sent him a message on the career networking site, linkedin. What could the chinese tell from reading his linkedin page . Gaynor when you look at this linkedin page, its very clear immediately that he worked in National Security, that he had the type of background that the Chinese Intelligence Services are most interested in cooper hes good at National Security, military, international relations, counterterrorism, security clearance, dispute resolution. This is a signpost to i was a former intelligence official. Gaynor and it led to what you would expect. Cooper mallory ended up in contact with this man, who called himself michael yang and claimed to be an employee at a chinese think tank. So hes a chinese Intelligence Officer . Gaynor we believe him to be a chinese Intelligence Officer. And more importantly, mr. Mallory, when meeting with him, believed him to be an Intelligence Officer. Cooper over the next several weeks, michael yang paid mallory 25,000 to come to shanghai twice, and mallory reached out to former colleagues at the c. I. A. Asking to be put in touch with people who had current intelligence on china. Prosecutors say his former colleagues grew suspicious and reported him to c. I. A. Security, putting him on the radar of Law Enforcement. When mallory returned from his second trip to china, he was stopped by customs at chicagos ohare airport. He had lied on this form about how much money he was carrying more than 16,000 in cash and agents discovered this box with a phone in it. Mallory claimed it was a gift for his wife, but it was actually a covert communication device that had been given to him by chinese intelligence. This looks just like a regular phone. What makes it a covert communication device . Gaynor so, its not so much the hardware. The phone itself had a unique piece of software installed on it, designed to allow secure communication, both in text and also the secure transmission of documents later. Cooper you might think a former c. I. A. Officer would be cautious about the texts he sends to a chinese spy, but Kevin Mallory was remarkably direct, complaining about the money he was paid and the risk he was taking. Your object is to gain information, he told michael yang, and my object is to be paid for it. I will destroy all electronic records after you confirm receipt, mallory wrote to yang. I already destroyed the paper records. I cannot keep these around. Too dangerous. At this point, all the risk is on me. Gellie so he says, im taking all the risk, but then he goes on, a few bubbles later, to actually try to transmit Additional Information to the chinese. Cooper but technology wasnt mallorys strong suit. He complained to michael yang that the phone wasnt working properly. This system sucks. Its too cumbersome, he wrote. I put all these messages, and then, and you cant read them because you are not logged in at the same time. Thats a poor system. At this point, prosecutors say, mallory was scared. Hed been stopped at customs, and he feared the c. I. A. And f. B. I. Were onto him. Prosecutors say he decided to come up with a cover story, and reached out to the c. I. A. , telling them he thought he was being recruited by chinese spies. The c. I. A. Called him in for an interview. Kevin mallory my judgement is, and we havent gone through this conversation, that these guys work for chinese intelligence. So my sense is that they were looking for government secrets. U. S. Government secrets, at some level. Cooper in this meeting, mallory admitted the phone was a covert communication device given to him by the chinese, but, prosecutors say, he lied about the classified documents hed already sent. Dorsey did you send them anything on that phone . Mallory i sent them some tests of some sort, just to see if i could do it right. And i couldnt figure it out. I messed that up. Gaynor hes trying to control the narrative. So what you have here likely is an attempt to steer the story, to explain away some of the more alerting pieces, while not admitting to the criminal acvity of proving the classified information to the foreign intelligence service. Gellie we now know, at this point in time, Kevin Mallory has successfully sent the classified table of contents, the classified white paper, and tried to send several other documents unsuccessfully. Cooper mallory offered to bring in the phone to be examined by the c. I. A. , confident that all his messages to michael yang had automatically been deleted. So, he believes everything hes sent has disappeared from the device. So thats why hes willing to bring the device in . Gaynor we have every reason to believe that he believed at the time that those communications would be gone. Cooper two weeks later, mallory arrived at a hotel room in ashburn, virginia for a second meeting with the c. I. A. When he got there, the f. B. I. Was waiting for him, along with a computer forensic examiner. He agreed to show them how the phone worked. Gaynor when he goes to demonstrate it, up on the screen where he expects to have his whole chat history basically deleted, up on the screen, comes some of the chat history. Cooper the f. B. I. Recorded the meeting. Mallory im, im surprised it kept this much. F. B. I. Agent so, you made a comment that you were surprised that there was this much there. Mallory right, because you because this, right because, in the past, maybe it was the screen size or something because some of it just disappeared. Cooper one of the most incriminating messages that appeared on the phone was mallory planning another trip to china. I can also come in the middle of june, he wrote. I can bring the remainder of the documents i have at that time. Gaynor from the f. B. I. Perspective, this is a Pivotal Moment in the investigation. Cooper four weeks later, the f. B. I. Arrested Kevin Mallory and searched his home. Hidden in the back of this closet in a junk drawer, agents discovered an s. D. Card wrapped in tinfoil, whad placed eight secret and top secret documents the same ones he scanned at that fed ex store in april. Aynor it is our belt it was his intention to take this s. D. Card to china to provide to them. Cooper does the mallory case fit a pattern that youre seeing coming from chinese intelligence . Demers yes. We currently have three pending cases against former Intelligence Officers, and theyre alleged to have been spying on behalf of the chinese. Cooper its hard to overstate how unusual it is to have three cases like this ongoing. Demers its not unusual. Its unprecedented. Bill evanina to me, its disappointing, and its really hurtful, i think, to everyone, to know that we still have people who are willing to betray the u. S. For a few dollars. Cooper bill evanina is director of the National Counterintelligence and security center, a division of the office of the director of national intelligence. He serves as the u. S. Governments top Counter Intelligence official. When it comes to espionage against the United States, does china pose the greatest threat, or russia . Evanina when it comes to espionage, china poses the greatest threat. And its not even close, ed to ia or iran any other country. And if you include economic espionage, industrial espionage, its not even in the same ballgame. Cooper when most people think of espionage, they think of somebody in a trench coat, trying to steal a state secret. Whats happening now with china, its not just about state secrets, its about technological secrets. Thats the prize that china wants. Evanina thats correct. Its trade secrets, proprietary data, intelligence, emerging technology, nanotechnology, hybrid, anything that they can see that is the future. Supercomputing, encryption. Those are the issues that they look at. And they have a prioritized schedule that they look at, and they send people forward to go collect that data. Cooper john demers, of the justice departments National Security division, says since 2011, more than 90 of the economic espionage cases they have charged have involved china, which has stolen secrets about everything from geneticallymodified rice seeds, to wind turbine technology. This is a Persistent Campaign youre seeing . Demers yes, very persistent, very sophisticated. Very wellresourced, very patient and very broad in scope. Cooper demers says chinese operatives have intensified their efforts on industries critical to chinese president xi jinpings made in china 2025 program, a tenyear plan to jump ahead of the United States in aerospace, automation, artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and other cutting edge industries. I think some people who see this are going to think, well, this is something the u. S. Must do as well. Demers the u. S. Intelligence community doesnt take trade secrets from Foreign Companies for the benefit of american companies. Cooper that doesnt happen . Demers this is not something that we do. Cooper as for former c. I. A. Officer Kevin Mallory, he continues to deny sending any classified information to the chinese. Last june, a jury in virginia found him guilty of conspiracy under the espionage act and lying to the f. B. I. In may, mallory was sentenced to 20 years in prison. ticking wit looks like jill heading offe on an adventure. 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As we first reported in january, what he has done in the ten years since losing his sight as a person, and as an architect can only be described as a different kind of vision. Several mornings a week, as the sun rises over the oakland estuary in california, an amateur rowing team works theitf them is blind. And chris downey thinks thats just fine. Chris downey its really exciting to be in a sport where nobody looks in the direction theyre going. You face this way in the boat, and youre going that way. So, okay, evensteven. We were just talking about that whole exterior. Stahl its not exactly evensteven in this design meeting, where downey is collaborating with sighted architects on a new hospital building. Chris downey under the canopy, where you could have down lights. Stahl . But he hasnt let that stop him. Here you are, in a profession that basically requires you to read read designs and draw designs. You mustve thought in your head, that is insurmountable . Chris downey no. I never thought stahl you never thought you never thought the word insurmountable chris downey lots of people, friends that were architects and anybody else would say, oh my god, its the worst thing imaginable, to be an architect and to lose your sight. I cant imagine anything worse. But i quickly came to realize that the Creative Process is an intellectual process. Its how you think. So i just needed new tools. Stahl new tools . Downey found a printer that could emboss architectural drawings so that he could read and understand through touch. Chris downey they look like normal prints, normal drawings, on the computer. But then they just come out in tactile form. Stahl so it is like braille, isnt it . Chris downey right. Stahl and he came up with a way to sketch his ideas onto the plans using a simple childrens toy malleable wax sticks that he shapes to show his modifications to others. And he says something surprising started to happen. He could no longer see buildings and spaces, but he began hearing them. Chris downey the sounds, the textures. And the sound changes because theres a canopy overhead. Stahl you can sense that were under a canopy . Chris downey yes. Its all a matter of how the sound works, from the tip of the cane. I was fascinated walking through buildings that i knew sighted, but i was experiencing them in a different way. I was hearing the architecture, i was feeling the space. Stahl it sounds as if you began almost enjoying, in a way, being the blind architect. Chris downey it was sort of this this excitement of, im a kid again. Im im relearning so much of architecture. It wasnt about what im missing in architecture, its what it was about what i had been missing in architecture. Is that sufficiently different . Chris downey oh, yeah. laughter stahl chris downeys upbeat attitude doesnt mean that he didnt go through one of the most frightening experiences imaginable, and struggle. He and his wife rosa were living in this same home with their son renzo, then ten, when downey first noticed a problem while playing catch with renzo. The ball kept coming in and out of sight. The cause turned out to be a tumor near his optic nerve. Surgery to remove it lasted 9. 5 hours. He says his surgeon had told him there was a slight risk of total sight loss, but that hed never had it happen. Rosa downey when he first came out of surgery, he was able to see. Stahl but then things started to go wrong. The next day, half his field of vision disappeared. And then . Chris downey the next time i woke up, it was. All gone. It was just black. Stahl complete and total darkness . No light, you cant see anything . Chris downey no light. Its dark. Its all dark. Stahl after days of frantic testing, a surgeon told him it was permanent, irreversible, and sent in a social worker. Chris downey she says, oh, and i see from your chart youre youre an architect, so we can talk about career alternatives. Stahl career alternatives, right away . Chris downey i hadnt been told i was officially blind for 24 hours, and stahl and shes saying you cant be an architect anymore. Chris downey yeah, and she was saying we could talk about career alternatives. I felt like these walls were being built up around me, just like, yeah, youre getting boxed in. Stahl alone that night in his room, downey did some serious thinking. About his son, and about his own father, who had died from complications after surgery when downey was seven years old. Chris downey i could quickly appreciate the wonder, the just the joy of, im still here. Stahl it was actually joy . Chris downey yeah, it was like, im still here with my family. My son still has his dad. Stahl you know your eyes are tearing up. You know that. Chris downey yeah, sorry. I always have a hard time talking through that. Stahl he knew that how he handled this would send a strong message to renzo. Chris downey i had been talking with him about the need to really apply himself. At the age of ten, its that point where if you want something you really have to work at it. And here i am, facing this great challenge. Stahl so, motivated to set an example, he headed back to work only one month later. Bryan bashin this was the most healthy thing about chris. Stahl bryan bashin is executive director of the nonprofit lighthouse for the blind and visually impaired in san francisco, and is blind himself. Bashin he waited a few days, until the stitches were out of his skull. And 30 days after brain surgery, he was back in the office thinking, okay, theres got to be a way to figure this out. And im going to figure it out. Stahl bashins organization, the lighthouse, helps people new to vision loss learn how to figure things out. Bashin when someone becomes blind, the odds are 99 theyve never met another blind person. Stahl is that right . Bashin yeah, that really is true. Blind people need those role models, how to be blind, how to hold down a job, how to live an independent life. Stahl specifically, how to work in the kitchen safely. How to navigate public transportation. How to use Screen Reading Software to listen to emails as quickly as the rest of us read them. Did you understand that . Chris downey yes. Stahl no and most critically, how to get around in the world alone. Downey learned that at the lighthouse. When you first crossed a big street like this on your own, was it terrifying . Chris downey absolutely terrifying. Stahl i can imagine. laughs i can totally imagine. Chris downey i remember that day, stepping off the curb, and it was like, you would have thought i was stepping into raging waters. Take a deep breath and go for it. You got to push through it. Stahl within a few months, he was travelling the streets on his own and getting back to normalcy with his son. Chris downey the first fathers day came up. Rosa was like, so, what do you want to do . Do you want to go on a picnic, go on a nice lunch . I want to play baseball. laughter with renzo. Renzo was like he pops up. I could just i could feel him, like, jump to the edge of his chair. Baseball, you want to play baseball . laughter renzo downey so dad would throw to me, and id play like i was playing first base. Stahl how could he throw the ball to you . Renzo downey id just call out, im over here. And hed point, and id say, yeah, thats right. And then hed throw it at me. Chris downey thats something i really loved about our relationship. He quickly was looking for possibilities. He wasnt saying, you cant do that. He was like, well, why not . Stahl downey seems to have a knack for finding windows when doors slam shut. Just nine months after going blind, the recession hit, and he lost his job. But, he got word that a nearby firm was designing a Rehabilitation Center for veterans with sight loss. They were eager to meet a blind architect. What are the chances . You had to believe that gods hand came down chris downey it took my disability and turned it upside down. All of a sudden, it defined unique, unusual value that virtually nobody else had to offer. Stahl nobody. Chris downey yeah. Stahl starting with that job, downey developed a specialty, making spaces accessible to the blind. He helped design a new eye center at Duke University hospital, consulted on a job for microsoft, and signed on to help the visually impaired find their way in san franciscos new, and much delayed, fourblocklong transbay transit center, which we visited during construction. Chris downey if youre blind, you dont drive. Right . They dont like it when we drive. So, you know, were committed transit users. So the question was, how on earth do you navigate this size of facility, if youre blind . Stahl his solution grooves set into the concrete running platfo. Hrus followhis, following tgroo stahl . With a subtle change from smooth to textured concrete, to signal where to turn to get to the escalators. Chris downey would you like to give it a try . Stahl okay. I know to go straight because of this line. And i feel scraping oh, my. Oh, my. So its pretty obvious. Chris downey i can hear the difference from here. Stahl its something sighted people may never notice and thats precisely the point. Downey believes in whats called universal design that accommodates people with disabilities, but is just as appealing to people without them. Its the approach he used for his biggest project yet, consulting on the total renovation of a new, threestory office space for his old training ground, the lighthouse for the blind. Bashin coming into blindness need not be some dreary sociale, more like coming into an apple store thinking that there might be something fun around the corner. Stahl one of downeys ideas was to break through and link the three floors with an internal staircase that sighted people can see, and the blind can hear. Bashin in blindness, its so wonderful to be on the 9th floor and hear a burst of laughter up on the 11th floor, or to hear somebody playing the piano on the 10th floor. Stahl for the hallways, downey chose polished concrete, because of the acoustics. Bashin i can hear the special tap of somebodys cane, or the click of a guide dogs toenails. Stahl the click of a guide dogs toenails . Bashin yeah, yeah. Stahl well, is that good or bad . Bashin thats great. Its like youre seeing somebody coming down the hall. I know the sound of individual people who work here by the way they use their cane, or the kind of walk they have. Stahl you can really distinguish between people by how they tap their cane . Bashin absolutely. Stahl if you hadnt had chris working on this building, a blind architect bashin it wouldnt have been as rich or so subtle, for sure. Stahl spring 2018 marked the tenyear anniversary of downey losing his sight. So what did he do . He threw a party, a fundraiser for the lighthouse, where hes been student, architect, and now, president of the board. Chris downey maybe a slightly bizarre thing, celebrating my tenyear blind birthday. But when youre 55 and you have a chance to be ten again, you take it. Stahl i get the feeling that you actually think youre a better architect today. Chris downey im absolutely convinced im a better architect today than i was sighted. Stahl if you could see tomorrow, would you still want to be able to feel the design . Chris downey if i were to get my sight back, it would be i dont know. I would be afraid that id id sort of lose what ive really been working on. I dont really think about having my sight restored. Theres be some logistical liberation to it. 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Alma deutscher i remember that when i was three, and i listened to this really strauss, and that was when i really first realized how much i loved music. And i asked my parents, but how can music be so beautiful . Pelley do you remember the melody . Alma deutscher yes. Do you want me to sing it . Pelley please. Alma deutscher sings pelley those notes of Richard Strauss ignited a universe. At three, alma was playing piano and violin. When did the composing begin . Alma deutscher when i was four, i just had these melodies and ideas in my head, and i would play them down at the piano. And sometimes my parents would think that i was just remembering music that id already heard before, but i said, no, no, these are my melodies, that i composed. It needs to be much more, i think. Pelley two years ago, in austria, we watched alma prepare her violin concerto, and the premiere of her piano concerto. Joji hattori conducts the Vienna Chamber orchestra. Alma deutscher just the clarinet. Joji hattori just the clarinet. Alma deutscher what they really want to hear is the violin and the clarinet. Pelley that night, the soloist was the composer herself. And as you listen, remember, she wrote all the notes, for all the instruments. Pelley we could see alma was living a story. A story of loss. A story of redemption. Scales of emotion beyond a child. And yet her vision was almost like wisdom. Do you have any idea where this comes from . Alma deutscher i dont really know, but its really very normal to me to go around. Walk around and having melodies popping into my head. Its the most normal thing in the world. For me, its strange to walk around and not to have melodies popping into my head. So, if i was interviewing you, i would say, well, tell me, scott, how does it feel like, not having melodies popping into your head . Pelley its very quiet in my head, i must say. But, it appears, never quiet in hers. Look what happened when we took a break from filming at the deutscher home. Never mind the background noise, thats just the rustle of lunch. This is idle alma. When she has nothing to do, the music flows from its mysterious source as fluently as breath. Do you feel that theres anything about almas gift that you dont understand . Her parents, guy and janie, are professors. She teaches old english literature, and guy is a noted linguist. Both of them are amateur musicians. Guy deutscher we dont unnd creat does anyone . I mean, i think thats the crux of the mystery. Where does it come from . This melodies popping into your head, it really is a volcano of imagination. Its almost unstoppable. Pelley it was guy who taught her how to read music. Guy deutscher i thought i was an amazing teacher because, you know, i hardly had to. Pelley you thought it was you Guy Deutscher i thought it was me. I hardly had to say something. And, you know, her piano teacher once said, its a bit difficult with alma. Its difficult to teach her because one always has the sense shed been there before. Janie deutscher she wouldnt be able to imagine life without dreams and stories and music. Thats as unimaginable to her as it is strange for other people to think about a little girl with melodies in her head. Alma deutscher i love getting the melodies. Its not at all difficult to me. I get them all the time. But then, actually sitting down and developing the melodies and thats the really difficult part, having to tell a real story with the music. The story alma tells in her opera is cinderella, but its not the cinderella you know. It seemed demeaning to alma that cinderella was attractive just because her feet were small, so she cast cinderella as a composer, and the prince as a poet. Alma Deutscher Cinderella finds a poem that was composed by the prince, and she loves it, and shes inspired to put music to it. And in the ball, she sings it to the prince. I think that it makes much more sense if he falls in love with her because she composed this amazing melody to his poem, because he thinks that shes his soul mate because he understands her. Pelley well, people can fall in love with composers. Alma deutscher exactly. laughter pelley i think this may be one of those times. cheers and applause they fell in love with cinderella in its first production in vienna. There is another composer who had an opera premiere in vienna at the age of 11 mozart. People compare you to mozart. What do you think of that . Alma deutscher i know that they mean it to be very nice, to compare me to mozart. Pelley it could be worse. Alma deutscher of course, i love mozart, and i would have loved him to be my teacher. But i think i would prefer to be the first alma than to be a second mozart. Pelley in israel, mozart joined alma on stage. She played his piano concerto with a cadenza. In a cadenza, the orchestra stops and the soloist breaks away in music of her own making. Alma deutscher its something that i composed because its a very early concerto of mozart, and the cadenza was very simple. It didnt go to any different keys. And i composed quite a long one, going to lots and lots of different keys, doing lots of things in mozarts motifs. Pelley so, you improved the cadenza of mozart . Alma deutscher well, yes. laughter Robert Gjerdingen its kind of a comet that goes by, and everybody looks up and just goes, wow. Pelley Robert Gjerdingen is a professor of music at northwestern in chicago. He has been a consultant to almas education. Gjerdingen i sent her some assignments when she was six, seven, where i expected her to crash and burn because they were very difficult. It came back, it was like listening to a mid18th century composer. She was a native speaker. Pelley a native speaker . Gjerdingen its her first language. She speaks the mozart style. She speaks the style of mendelssohn. Pelley and the names that you just mentioned are the ones that live for centuries. Gjerdingen yes. Shes batting in the big leagues. And if you win the pennant, theres immortality. Pelley the route to immortality lead through california. Two years ago, opera san jose staged cinderella in almas american debut. She was the belle of the ball, on the piano, organ and violin. Alma deutscher the piano music teachers say, well you must choose the piano. And the violin music teachers say, oh, you must choose the violin. But anyway, thats better than the piano teacher saying, you must choose the violin. laughter pelley yeah, that would be a bad sign. Alma deutscher that would be a bad sign, yes. Pelley fortunately, she doesnt have to choose. This is her composition, violin concerto number one. Alma deutscher its extremely jolly and very happy and jocular, that movement. I want to make the people who listen to it laugh and be happy. The First Movement of the violin concerto is quite the opposite. Its very dark and dramatic. Pelley what does a girl your age know about dark and dramatic . Alma deutscher well, yes, thats an interesting question because, you know what . Im a very happy person, so i have lots of imaginary composers. And one of them is called antonin yellowsink. Pelley antonin yellowsink, friend, isinsighinto theng music of her mind. Alma told us that she made up a country where imaginary composers write, each in his own style of emotion. So, how many composers do you have in your head . Alma deutscher i have lots of composers. And sometimes when im stuck with something, when im composing, i go to them and ask them for advice. And quite often, they come up with very interesting things. Pelley even the real world seems magical. The deutschers moved to the english countryside to be near a Famous School of music. Alma is privately tutored and homeschooled, alongside her sister helen, who also knows her way around the piano, and the tree house. I usually dont ask people your age this question, but, what have you learned about life . Alma deutscher well, i know that. That life is not always beautiful. That theres also ugliness in the world. Thats why i. Ive learned that i want to write beautiful music, because i want to make the world a bettlace. Pelley we cannot know how Alma Deutscher channels her music like a portal in time. But in a world too often ugly and too often overburdened with explanation, it is nice to take a moment, and wonder. applause pelley this december, alma will be performing a selection of her original compositions at carnegie hall. ticking alma composes with four notes picked out of a hat. Go to 60minutesovertime. Com go to 60minutesovertime. Com sponsored by eucrisa. Used almost everywhere on almost everybody. Go to 60minutesovertime. Com sponsored by eucrisa. 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