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Today, Artificial Intelligence is not as good as you hope and not as bad as you fear. You do believe its going to change the world . I believe its going to change the world more than anything in the history of mankind. More than electricity. Kaifu lee believes the best place to be an a. I. Capitalist is communist china. One of lees investments is face plusplus. Its visual recognition system smothered me, to guess my age. It settled on 61, which was wrong. I wouldnt be 61 for days. Chris downey had constructed the life hed always wanted, an architect with a good job. That whole exterior. Happily married and coaching his tenyearold sons Little League. But then something awful happened. He went blind, and that threatened to end his career. Different . Oh yairks. Yeah. Or did it . Im relearning so much of architecture. It wasnt about what im missing in architecture, it was about what i had been missing in architecture. Im steve kroft. Im lesley stahl. Im scott pelley. Im anderson cooper. Im Sharyn Alfonsi. Im bill whitaker. Those stories, tonight, on 60 minutes. Cbs money watch sponsoredly lincoln financial. No matter who youre responsible good evening. Tomorrow is day 24 of the partial government shutdown, now longest in u. S. History. Banking giants, airlines, and netflix all report earnings this week, and at the auto show in detroit, ford and volkswagen are production partnership. Im david begneau, cbs news. At booking. Com, we cant guarantee youll good at that water jet thingy. But we can guarantee the best price on this hotel. Or any accommodation, from homes to yurts. Booking. Com booking. Yeah im a fighter. Always have been. When i found out i had agerelated macular degeneration, amd, i wanted to fight back. My doctor and i came up with a plan. It includes preservision. Only Preservision Areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula recommended by the National Eye Institute to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd. Thats why i fight. Because its my vision. Preservision. Also, in a greattasting chewable. Kroft on thursday, we learned president trumps former lawyer and fixer michael cohen, who is headed for prison, will testify in a televised hearing before the House Oversight and Reform Committee. It marked the beginning of season three of whats been called the donald trump reality show with a fresh plot, and new characters ushered in by voters in the Midterm Election who gave democrats control of the house of representatives. Among the recently empowered is congressman Elijah Cummings, the new chairman of the House Oversight committee. It has the Constitutional Authority to investigate anything it wants, creating Serious Problems for the trump administration, and making cummings one of the most powerful people in washington. Elijah cummings we are better than that. Kroft Elijah Cummings has been a familiar face on capitol hill for a long time, a respected 13 term maryland congressman who has served on the oversight and Reform Committee under four different president s. And he was handpicked by the Democratic Leaders for this job. Cummings we are in a fight for the soul of our democracy. And youve got to understand that. This is serious business. Kroft you can dismiss the congressmans statement as partisan hyperbole, but part of the government is shuttered, four of president trumps former associates are now convicted felons, ten of his original cabinet secretaries have left, four under a cloud of scandal. And there are 17 other investigations underway. Will you all please raise your right hand . Kroft not counting the ones that are about to begin in the new Democratic House of representatives empowered with the Legal Authority to compel testimony and demand documents. So how are you going to run this committee . Cummings what im going to do is im going to try to work with the republicans as i have in the past. You know why . Because thats our job. And when it comes to subpoena, i know the power of a subpoena, having practiced laws. In order to do oversight, you got to have documents. You got to have emails. You got to have information. Kroft for the first two years of the trump administration, that kind of information was beyond the reach of house democrats. The power of subpoena belonged exclusively to the republican majority. As ranking democrat on the House Oversight committee, cummings made 64 requests for subpoenas on things Like White House security clearances, Hurricane Relief efforts in puerto rico, and the justice departments refusal to defend the Affordable Care act. All of them were blocked by the republican chairmen. Youve asked the white house for a bunch of things. Youve asked for documents connected to Jared Kushners use of private emails. Child separation policy at the border. Have you ever gotten anything . Cummings zero. Kroft nothing . Cummings zero. Thats the point. Now, i dont know if any president has ever done this. None. None that has ever said, im not giving you anything. For anything. Nothing. Kroft but youre sitting here telling me you think somehow, miraculously, hes going to change. Cummings its not about miraculous. Its about adherence to the constitution. And the American People and the congress is insisting that he allows us to do our job. Basically what the president has done and the republicans have done, theyve joined hands. And the republicans have been basically not only blocking, but become the defense counsel for the president. Okay. But no documents . I mean, come on. Kroft now, as chairman of the oversight committee, cummings no longer has to consult with the republicans to issue subpoenas, initiate investigations or cari and he has a much bigger budget and staff. So will adam schiff, chairman of the house intelligence committee, and jerrold nadler, chairman of the judiciary committee, but their inquiries will be limited to their specific jurisdictions. Cummings committee has the authority to investigate anything inside or outside the federal government. Cummings we can look at anything. Kroft you could cummings anything. Kroft look at interior, you could look at e. P. A. Cummings anything. But the fact that we can look at anything is part of the problem. Theres so much. No, im im serious. Theres so much. Kroft and you only have two years. Cummings less than that. Actually, less than that. The congress doesnt meet but so many days in a year. And all im saying is that weve got to hit the ground, not running, but flying. Kroft some democrats believe cummings should go for the jugular and push for impeachment. He says its premature, and he also wants to pursue other issues especially the high cost of prescription drugs. His staff has already sent out 51 letters to government officials, the white house, and the Trump Organization asking for documents related to investigations that the committee may launch. The issues range from the private use of government owned aircraft by cabinet members to the flow of foreign money into various Trump Enterprises like his hotel in washington. You think hes making money off this job . Cummings please. Kroft a lot of money . Cummings a lot of money. Kroft and you say the constitution and the laws say its not okay . Cummings its not okay. And, but this is the other piece, i still believe that people the average citizen, the guys on my block, they ought to know if the president is making a deal, whether hes making it making it in his selfinterest or that of the country. Kroft in response, the white house said, these claims are completely baseless, but we cannot comment further about ongoing litigation. Elijah cummings has been in congress for 23 years, but he is not a creature of washington. Kroft when he needs to be there, he commutes from his maryland district, an hours drive to the north, where he represents 700,000 people and most of the city of baltimore. He was born here 67 years ago to parents with fourth grade educations whod been sharecroppers in South Carolina before moving north for a better life. His father worked in a chemical plant, his mother was a domestic. Both were pentecostal ministers. Cummings first it was religion, and then it was the education. My father, steve, had a saying. He said he told us, if you miss one day of school, that meant you died the night before. And he meant that. I did not miss one second of school between kindergarten and graduating from high school. Not one second. Kroft he graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Howard University before earning a law degree at maryland. He says he is one of the few congressmen who live in an inner city working class neighborhood. How long have you lived here . Cummings 37 years. Kroft he says he keeps a Campaign Poster in the front window so people will know where to find him. So you like to be among your constituents . Cummings i like to be among my constituents. Let me tell you something man, if i dont do well in this block, im in trouble. I mean, if you want to take a poll, if i lost in this block, i might as well go i might as well stay home. Kroft when riots broke out in baltimore three years ago after the death of a young black man, freddie gray, who was fatally injured in the back of a police van, cummings gained National Attention walking the troubled neighborhoods trying to keep the peace. He is part of the citys fabric. This is pretty impressive. Cummings oh yeah, i love it man. Kroft but now he has stepped onto a much larger stage, under the bright lights of the oversight committee. Cummings well, i sit here. And the democrats will be all over here. And the republicans will be over there. Our hearings can go anywhere from an hour and a half to eleven or 12 hours. Kroft so you got a good, comfortable chair. Cummings got a good, comfortable chair. And i got to tell you, steve standing here, it just it sort of gives me chills in a way, because i think about my journey to this chair. Kroft after years as the committees ranking minority member, he is ready to wield the gavel and the subpoena. Kroft youve got a lot of power, but you dont have unlimited power. I mean cummings no. Kroft and the republicans are going to put a lot of obstacles in your way. Cummings sure. I expect that. Now, theres one big elephant thats sitting around here that we dont know what its going to yield, and that is muellers report. I dont know what that report is going to have in it. One thing i do know, though, is whatever it is, even if it if it exonerates the president , fine. But this i do know i want whatever it is, for the congress to have it, and i want the public to have it, so that everybody can make a judgment. Kroft do you think its possible the republicans will try and suppress the report . Cummings i hope not, but thats a possibility. But i hope not. I hope they dont. Kroft cummings republican foil on the committee is ohios jim jordan, one of the president s most loyal and enthusiastic supporters. Youve known Elijah Cummings for a while. How would you describe your relationship . Jim jordan well, look, theres theres not much of anything that mr. Cummings and i agree on, policywise. But i certainly respect his toughness his tenacity. You know, hes demonstrated that hes a fighter and i kind of my background is such that i kind of appreciate that. Kroft a Founding Member of the freedom caucus, congressman jordan is a onetime College Wrestler and coach, still known for his scrappiness. Hes seldom seen wearing a jacket, and always ready to go to the mat. Jordan taxes have been cut, regulations reduced, the economy growing at an unbelievable rate, lowest unemployment in 50 years. 312,000 jobs added last month alone. Gorsuch and kavanaugh on the courts. Were out of the iran deal. The embassys in jerusalem. Hostages are home from north korea. And oh, by the way, theres a new nafta agreement. So its an amazing record and thats what i know about the two years that weve had donald trump as president of the united states. Kroft after the midterms, you wrote a letter to the republicans saying, you must valiantly defend the president. Is that your job . Jordan my job is getting to the truth. If the president is getting a raw deal, im going to defend him. Kroft i feel like i would be remiss in this if i didnt point out that truthfulness has not exactly been president trumps strongest asset. Jordan well, i mean, steve, look, this this president s probably been attacked more than any president that in my lifetime. And heres what i know. Over the last two years, in spite of the unprecedented attacks that have come against president trump, the last two years have been amazing. Kroft chairman cummings wouldnt disagree that the past two years have been amazing, but in a much different way. Cummings i dont think the other president s called a lie the truth and the truth a lie. Im going to tell you, thats what makes the relationship so difficult. Its hard to trust. You want to believe that if you make an agreement with someone, and i believed that with the other president s it was this way, their word was their bond. I dont know how to compare. I i i dont. And im not trying to be smart. Kroft were in New Territory here. Jordan yes, its new includes a beefedup white house counsels office. It has added more than a dozen new lawyers to fight what it anticipates will be a barrage of requests and subpoenas from congress. What happens if you issue ati dd or invokes executive privilege . Cummings we probably will end up in the courts. And one of the interesting things about the courts is that our president has been making sure that some of the most conservative judges are being appointed to the federal bench. And i think he relies on that, and i think that he assumes that the courts will possibly be it all depends be helpful to him. Kroft it promises to be a demanding time for a man who spent nearly six months in the hospital over the last year and a half for heart and knee surgery. As he showed us the victory prayer chapel, a Church Founded by his mother, congressman cummings relied on a cane and a walker. He says his chairmanship will be a physical burden on him, but his strong faith and awareness of his mortality will see him ro do y feelike you have th strength cummings oh yeah, man kroft and the stamina to do this . Cummings oh, im good. Im good. Like i tell my constituents, dont get it twisted. You know, i may my knee may be hurting a little bit, but my mind is clear. My mission is clear. And i am prepared and able to do what i have to do. And i will do it to the very best of my ability, so help me god. A lifetime of Lessons Learned in Elijah Cummings own words at 60 minutes 60minutesovertime. Com. A lifetime of Lessons Learned in Elijah Cummings own words at that can disrupt your life for weeks. In severe cases, Pneumococcal Pneumonia can put you in the hospital. It may take weeks to recover making you miss out on the things you enjoy most. Just one dose of the prevnar 13® vaccine can help protect you from Pneumococcal Pneumonia. Its not a yearly shot. 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I wonder, do you think people around the world have any idea whats coming in Artificial Intelligence . Kaifu lee i think most people have no idea, and many people have the wrong idea. Pelley but you do believe its going to change the world . Lee i believe its going to change the world more than anything in the history of mankind. More than electricity. Pelley lee believes the best place to be an a. I. Capitalist is communist china. His beijing Venture Capital firm manufactures billionaires. Lee these are the epat we have funded. Pelley hes funded 140 a. I. Startups. Lee we have about ten billiondollar companies here. Pelley ten, 1 billion companies that you funded . Lee yes, including a few 10 billion companies. Pelley in 2017, china attracted half of all a. I. Capital in the world. One of lees investments is face plusplus, not affiliated with facebook. Its visual recognition system smothered me, to guess my age. It settled on 61, which was wrong. I wouldnt be 61 for days. On the street, face plusplus nailed everything that moved. Its a kind of Artificial Intelligence that has been made possible by three innovations superfast computer chips, all the worlds data now available online, and a revolution in programming called deep learning. Computers used to be given rigid instructions. Now, theyre programmed to learn on their own. Lee in early days of a. I. , people try to program the a. I. With how people think. So, i would write a program to say, measure the size of the eyes, and their distance. Measure the size of the nose. Measure the shape of the face. And then, if these things match, then this is larry and thats john. But today, you just take all the pictures of larry and john and you tell the system, go at it. You figure out what separates larry from john. Pelley lets say you want the computer to be able to pick men out of a crowd and describe their clothing. Well, you simply show the computer ten million pictures of men in various kinds of dress. Thats what they mean by deep learning. Its not intelligence so much. Its just the brute force of data having ten million examples to choose from. So, face plusplus tagged me as male, short hair, black long sleeves, black long pants. Its wrong about my gray suit. And this is exactly how it learns. When engineers discover that error, theyll show the computer a million gray suits, and it wont make that mistake again. Another recognition system we saw, or saw us, is learning not just who you are, but how you feel. Now what are all the dots on the screen . The dots over our eyes and our mouths . Songfan yang the computer keeps track of all the feature points on the face. Pelley songfan yang developed this for t. A. L. Education group, which tutors five million chinese students. Well, lets look at what we are seeing here now. According to the computer, im confused, which is generally the case. But when i laughed, i was happy. Thats amazing. Yang exactly. Pelle the machine notices concentration or distraction to pick out for the teacher those students who are struggling or gifted. It can tell when the child is excited about math . Lee yes. Pelley or the other child is excited about poetry . Lee yes. Pelley could these a. I. Systems pick out geniuses from the countryside . Lee thats possible in the future. It can also create a student profile, and know where the student got stuck, so the teacher can personalize the areas in which the Student Needs help. Pelley we found kaifu lees personal passion in this spare beijing studio. Hes projecting top teachers into chinas poorest schools. This english teacher is connected to a class 1,000 miles away, in a village called duh fang. Many students in duhfang are called left behinds, because their parents left them with family when they moved to the cities for work. Most left behinds dont get past ninth grade. Pelley lee is counting on a. I. To deliver for them the same opportunity he had when he immigrated to the u. S. From taiwan as a boy. Lee when i arrived in tennessee, my principal took every lunch to teach me english. And that is the kind of attention that ive not been used to growing up in asia. And i felt that the american classrooms are smaller, encouraged individual thinking, critical thinking. And i felt it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Pelley and the best thing that ever happened to most of the engineers we met at lees firm. They too are alumni of america, with a dream for china. You have written that Silicon Valleys edge is not all its cracked up to be. What do you mean by that . Lee well, Silicon Valley has been the single epicenter of the World Technology innovation when it comes to computers, internet, mobile and a. I. But in the recent five years, we are seeing that chinese a. I. Is getting to be almost as good as Silicon Valley a. I. And i think Silicon Valley is not quite aware of it yet. Pelley chinas advantage is in the amount of data it collects. The more data, the better the a. I. Just like, the more you know, the smarter you are. China has four times more people than the united states, and they are doing nearly everything online. I just dont see any chinese without a phone in their hand. College student monica sun showed us how more than a billion chinese are using their phones to buy everything, find anything, and connect with everyone. In america, when personal information leaks, we have congressional hearings. Not in china. Do you ever worry about the information thats being collected about you . Where you go, what you buy, who youre with . Monica sun i never think about it. Pelley do you think most chinese worry about their privacy . Sun not that much. Pelley not that much. With a pliant public, the leader of the communist party has made a National Priority of achieving a. I. Dominance in ten years. This is where kaifu lee becomes uncharacteristically shy. Even though hes a former apple, microsoft and google executive, he knows whos boss in china. T d technology the sharp weapon of the modern state. What does he mean by that . Lee i am not an expert in interpreting his thoughts. I dont know. Pelley there are those, particularly people in the west, who worry about this a. I. Technology as being something that governments will use to control their people and to crush dissent. Lee as a Venture Capitalist, we dont invest in this area, and were not studying deeply this particular problem. Pelley but governments do. Lee its certainly possible for governments to use the technologies, just like companies. Pelley lee is much more talkative about another threat posed by a. I. He explores the coming destruction of jobs in a new book, a. I. Superpowers china, Silicon Valley and the new world order. Lee a. I. Will increasingly replace repetitive jobs. Not just for blue collar work, but a lot of white collar work. Pelley what sort of jobs would be lost to a. I. . Lee basically, chauffeurs, truck drivers, anyone who does driving for a living. Their jobs will be disrupted more in the 15 to 20year timeframe. And many jobs that seem a little bit complex chef, waiter a lot of things will become automated. Well have automated stores, automated restaurants, and all together in 15 years, thats going to displace about 40 of the jobs in the world. Pelley 40 of the jobs in the world will be displaced by technology . Lee i would say displaceable. Pelley what does that do to the fabric of society . Lee well, in some sense, there is the human wisdom that always overcomes these technology revolutions. The invention of the steam engine, the sewing machine, electricity, have all displaced jobs. And weve gotten over it. The challenge of a. I. Is, this 40 , whether it is 15 or 25 years, is coming faster than the previous revolutions. Pelley theres a lot of hype about Artificial Intelligence, and its important to understand this is not general intelligence like that of a human. This system can read faces and grade papers, but it has no idea why these children are in this room or what the goal of education is. A typical a. I. System can do one thing well, but cant adapt what it knows to any other task. So for now, it may be that calling this intelligence isnt very smart. When will we know that a machine can actually think like a human . Lee back when i was a grad student, people said, if machine can drive a car by itself, thats intelligence. Now we say thats not enough. So, the bar keeps moving higher. I think thats, i guess, more motivation for us to work harder. But if youre talking about a. G. I. , artificial general intelligence, i would say not within the next 30 years, and possibly never. Pelley possibly never . Whats so insurmountable . Lee because i believe in the sanctity of our soul. I believe there is a lot of things about us that we dont understand. I believe theres a lot of love and compassion that is not explainable in terms of Neural Networks and computation algorithms. And i currently see no way of solving them. Obviously, unsolved problems have been solved in the past. But it would be irresponsible for me to predict that these will be solved by a certain timeframe. Pelley we may just be more than our bits . Lee we may. burke parking splat. And we covered it. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum not to the finish. T. But to the beginning. A fight that can only be won, if we stand together for one cause. Him. Expert care for every new beginning. Stahl at age 45, chris downey had pretty much constructed the life hed always wanted. An architect, with a good job at a small housing firm outside san francisco, he was happily married, with a 10yearold son. He was an assistant Little League coach and avid cyclist. And then, doctors discovered a tumor in his brain. He had surgery, and the tumor was safely gone but downey was left completely blind. What he he years since losing his sight as a person, and as an architect can only be described as a different kind of vision. Several mornings a week, as the sun rises over the oakland estuary in california, an amateur rowing team works the water. Its hard to tell which one of them is blind. And chris downey thinks thats just fine. Chris downey its really exciting to be in a sport where nobody looks in the direction theyre going. You face this way in the boat, and youre going that way. So, okay, evensteven. We were just talking about that whole exterior. Stahl its not exactly evensteven in this design meeting, where downey is collaborating with sighted architects on a new hospital building. Chris downey under the canopy, where you could have down lights. Stahl . But he hasnt let that stop him. Here you are, in a profession that basically requires you to read read designs and draw designs. You mustve thought in your head, that is insurmountable . Chris downey no. I never thought stahl you never thought you never thought the word insurmountable chris downey lots of people, friends that were architects and anybody else would say, oh my god, its the worst thing imaginable, to be an architect and to lose your sight. I cant imagine anything worse. But i quickly came to realize that the Creative Process is an intellectual process. Its how you think. So i just needed new tools. Stahl new tools . Downey found a printer that could emboss architectural drawings so that he could read and understand through touch. Chris downey they look like normal prints, normal drawings, on the computer. But then they just come out in tactile form. Stahl so it is like braille, isnt it . Chris downey right. Stahl and he came up with a way to sketch his ideas onto the plans using a simple childrens toy malleable wax sticks that he shapes to show his modifications to others. And he says something surprising started to happen. He could no longer see buildings and spaces, but he began hearing them. Chris downey the sounds, the textures. And the sound changes because theres a canopy overhead. Stahl you can sense that were under a canopy . Chris downey yes. Its all a matter of how the sound works, from the tip of the cane. I was fascinated walking through buildings that i knew sighted, but i was experiencing them in a different way. I was hearing the architecture, i was feeling the space. Stahl it sounds as if you began almost enjoying, in a way, being the blind architect. Chris downey it was sort of this this excitement of, im a kid again. Im im relearning so much of architecture. It wasnt about what im missing in architecture, its what it was about what i had been missing in architecture. Is that chris downey oh, yeah. laughter stahl chris downeys upbeat attitude doesnt mean that he didnt go through one of the most frightening experiences imaginable, and struggle. He and his wife rosa were living in this same home with their son renzo, then ten, when downey first noticed a problem while playing catch with renzo. The ball kept coming in and out of sight. The cause turned out to be a tumor near his optic nerve. Surgery to remove it lasted 9. 5 hours. He says his surgeon had told him there was a slight risk of total sight loss, but that hed never had it happen. Rosa downey when he first came out of surgery, he was able to see. Stahl but then things started to go wrong. The next day, half his field of vision disappeared. And then . Chris downey the next time i woke up, it was. All gone. It was just black. Stahl complete and total darkness . No light, you cant see anything . Chris downey no light. Its dark. Its all dark. Stahl after days of frantic testing, a surol was permanent, irreversible, and sent in a social worker. Chris downey she says, oh, and i see from your chart youre youre an architect, so we can talk about career alternatives. Stahl career alternatives, right away . Chris downey i hadnt been told i was officially blind for 24 hours, and stahl and shes saying you cant be an architect anymore. Chris downey yeah, and she was saying we could talk about career alternatives. I felt like these walls were being built up around me, just like, yeah, youre getting boxed in. Stahl alone that night in his room, downey did some serious thinking. About his son, and about his own father, who had died from complications after surgery when downey was seven years old. Chris downey i could quickly appreciate the wonder, the just the joy of, im still here. Stahl it was actually joy . Chris downey yeah, it was like, im still here with my family. My son still has his dad. Stahl you know your eyes are tearing up. You know that. Chris downey yeah, sorry. I always have a hard time talking through that. Stahl he knew that how he handled this would send a strong message to renzo. Chris downey i had been talking with him about the need to really apply himself. At the age of ten, its that point where if you want something you really have to work at it. And here i am, facing this great challenge. Stahl so, motivated to set an example, he headed back to work only one month later. Bryan bashin this was the most healthy thing about chris. Stahl bryan bashin is executive director of the nonprofit lighthouse for the blind and visually impaired in san francisco, and is blind himself. Bashin he waited a few days, until the stitches were out of his skull. And 30 days after brain surgery, he was back in the office thinking, okay, theres got to be a way to figure this out. And im going to figure it out. Stahl bashins organization, the lighthouse, helps people new to vision loss learn how to figure things out. Blind, the odds are 99 theyve never met another blind person. Stahl is that right . Bashin yeah, that really is true. Blind people need those role models, how to be blind, how to hold down a job, how to live an independent life. Stahl specifically, how to work in the kitchen safely. How to navigate public transportation. How to use Screen Reading Software to listen to emails as quickly as the rest of us read them. Did you understand that . Chris downey yes. Stahl no and most critically, how to get around in the world alone. Downey learned that at the lighthouse. When you first crossed a big street like this on your own, was it terrifying . Chris downey absolutely terrifying. Stahl i can imagine. laughs i can totally imagine. Chris downey i remember that day, stepping off the curb, and it was like, you would have thought i was stepping into raging waters. Take a deep breath and go for it. You got to push through it. Stahl within a few months, he was travelling the streets on his own and getting back to normalcy with his son. Chris downey the first fathers day came up. Rosa was like, so, what do you want to do . Do you want to go on a picnic, go on a nice lunch . I want to play baseball. laughter with renzo. Renzo was like he pops up. I could just i could feel him, like, jump to the edge of his chair. Baseball, you want to play baseball . laughter renzo downey so dad would throw to me, and id play like i was playing first base. Stahl how could he throw the ball to you . Renzo downey id just call out, im over here. And hed point, and id say, yeah, thats right. And then hed throw it at me. Chris downey thats something i really loved about our relationship. He quickly was looking for possibilities. He wasnt saying, you cant do that. He was like, well, why not . Stahl downey seems to have a knack for finding windows when doors slam shut. Just nine months after going blind, the recession hit, and he lost his job. But, he got word that a nearby firm was designing a Rehabilitation Center for veterans with sight loss. They were eager to meet a blind architect. What are the chances . You had to believe that gods hand came down chris downey it took my disability and turned it upside down. All of a sudden, it defined unique, unusual value that virtually nobody else had to offer. Stahl nobody. Chris downey yeah. Stahl starting with that job, downey developed aecialty,s accessible to the blind. He helped design a new eye center at Duke University hospital, consulted on a job for microsoft, and signed on to help the visually impaired find their way in san franciscos new, and now delayed, fourblocklong transbay transit center, which we visited during construction. Chris downey if youre blind, you dont drive. Right . They dont like it when we drive. So, you know, were committed transit users. So the question was, how on earth do you navigate this size of facility, if youre blind . Stahl his solution grooves set into the concrete running the entire length of the platform. Chris downey i would just follow this, following those grooves. Stahl . With a subtle change from smooth to textured concrete, to signal where to turn to get to the escalators. Chris downey would you like to give it a try . Stahl okay. I know to go straight because of this line. And i feel scraping oh, my. Oh, my. So its pretty obvious. Chris downey i can hear the difference from here. Stahl its something sighted people might never notice and thats precisely the point. Downey believes in whats called universal design that accommodates people with disabilities, but is just as appealing to people without them. Its the approach he used for his biggest project yet, consulting on the total renovation of a new, threestory office space for his old training ground, the lighthouse for the blind. Bashin coming into blindness need not be some dreary social service experience, but rather, more like coming into an apple store thinking that there might be something fun around the corner. Stahl one of downeys ideas was to break through and link the three floors with an internal staircase that sighted people can see, and the blind can hear. Bashin in blindness, its so wonderful to be on the 9th floor and hear a burst of laughter up on the 11th floor, or to hear somebody playing the piano on the 10th floor. Stahl for the hallways, downey chose polished concrete, because of the acoustics. Bashin i can hear the special tap of somebodys cane, or the click of a guide dogs toenails. Stahl the click of a guide dogs toenails . Bashin yeah, yeah. Stahl well, is that good or bad . Bashin thats great. Its like youre seeing somebody coming down the hall. I know the sound of individual people who work here by the way they use their cane, or the kind of walk they have. Stahl you can really distinguish between people by how they tap their cane . Bashin absolutely. Stahl if you hadnt had chris working on this building, a blind architect bashin it wouldnt have been as rich or so subtle, for sure. Stahl last spring marked the tenyear anniversary of downey losing his sight. So what did he do . He threw a party, a fundraiser for the lighthouse, where hes been student, architect, and now, president of the board. Chris downey maybe a slightly bizarre thing, celebrating my tenyear blind birthday. But when youre 55 and you have a chance to be ten again, you take it. Stahl i get the feeling that you actually think youre a better architect today. Chris downey im absolutely convinced im a better architect today than i was sighted. Stahl if you could see tomorrow, would you still want to be able to feel the design . Chris downey if i were to get my sight back, it would be i dont know. I would be afraid that id id sort of lose what ive really been working on. I dont really think about having my sight restored. Theres be some logistical liberation to it. But, will it make my life better . I dont i dont think so. Welcome to cbs sports h. Q. Presented by progressive insurance. Im adam zuker with a look at the a. F. C. Playoff picture. Earlier today on cbs new england cruised past the l. A. Chargers, advancing to an eighth straight championship game. Yet cincinnati routed indianapolis for its first home playoff win in 25 years. Next sunday, kansas city and new england meet on cbs with a trip to the super bowl on the line. England meet on cbs with a trip to the super bowl on the line. For 24 7 news and highlight, visit cbssportshq. Com. A new house. E tom its a 10 cover . Oh, okay. Didnt see that on the website. Hes been acting more and more like his dad. Come on, guys jump in the waters fine tom pritchard. How we doin . Hi, there. Tom pritchard. Can we get a round of jalapeno poppers for me and the boys, please . 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Ouget a 4course mealal starting at 15. 99. Treat yourself to the perfect gift today, because the aussie 4course wont last long outback steakhouse. Aussie rules. Stahl now an update on a story we called plastic plague. Last month, Sharyn Alfonsi reported on a young dutch inventor, boyan slat, who came up with a plan to clean up the enormous patch of discarded plastic in the pacific ocean. He raised more than 30 million to build a 2,000foot floating boom, with a nyl s frcisco bay for that Great Pacific garbage patch. Boyan slat its five years of work and planning coming together in one nice shot. Its overwhelming, exciting to see. Stahl slats excitement and hopes have suffered setbacks. First, the device failed to corral the plastic. Then, 60 feet of the boom broke off. The contraption is being towed to hawaii for repairs, and is expected to arrive early this week. Im lesley stahl. Next week, the a. F. C. 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