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We signed it now its going through hopefully quick. Plenty of praise for recovery officials. What a job. The water is disappearing we have a long way to go but the water is disappearing. The flood waters are disappearing, but the clean up and recovery facing millions ever texans is just beginning. Well get updates from our team in texas as well as the mayor of houston and the head of fema, brock long. Plus well look at the potential health risk as result of harvey and hear from Bob Schieffer about the spirit of the Lone Star State and its ability to get through tough times. As tough as this was, its been a wonderful thing, even for the country to watch for the world to watch. But as Congress Heads back to washington and face battles over funding the government, will that spirit of unity prompted by harvey last . Well talk about that and the president s plan to potentially overturn an Obama Administration directive that protects children of undocumented immigrants from deportation. Its all coming up on face the nation. Good morning and welcome to face the nation. John dickerson is off today im Margaret Brennan. There is breaking news this morning as north korea says they successfully tested a Hydrogen Bomb capable of being mounted on missile that could reach the u. S. Mainland. If so, dramatic escalation in north korean president efforts to build his countrys nuclear capability. President trump has tweeted the First Official u. S. Response saying, there word and actions continue to be very hostile an dangerous to the United States. North korea a rogue nation that has become a great threat and embarrassment to china which is trying to help but with little success. We begin our coverage with cbs news correspondent ben try see reporting from tokyo. North korea confirmed test of the Hydrogen Bomb on state television. A strong 6. 3 magnitude earthquake was detected at 12 30 sunday afternoon in northeast north korea near the main nuclear test site. The underground test appears to be about ten times more powerful than the last one, north korea carried out one year ago. It came just hours after the country released these pictures of kim jongun, claiming a Hydrogen Bomb capable of fitting on intercontinental booistic missile. Last week, north korea launched yet another Ballistic Missile sending over northern japan. The u. S. And south korea responded by conducting high profile bombing drills on the peninsula. In july, north corey conducted two successful test of intercontinental Ballistic Missiles capable of hitting the United States saying latest test was designed to perfect a Nuclear Warhead for those missiles. Ever since its elaborate military parade this past april, north korea has warned that it was ready to conduct the nuclear test. But said it would have it at a time of kim jonguns choosing. Kim jonguns has significantly designed to cripple his regime. He launched 18 missiles this is now the Fourth Nuclear test carried out since he took over north korea in 2011. We want to bring in cbs News Senior National contributor, Michael Morell for some analysis. Mike, what have we learned today with this test . Kim jongun has been undergoing a pattern of demonstrating capabilities. So in the last six months weve had submarine launched Ballistic Missiles. Weve had simultaneous launches of multiple missiles. Weve had missiles capable of reaching the continental United States. And now we have the most strongest most significant nuclear test to date. So, he wants to demonstrate his ability to put a u. S. City at risk of nuclear attack, that is where hes driving. Can he hold the u. S. City hostage with that . We dont know for sure exactly where hes at. Theres four pieces to this. The first piece is having Nuclear Weapons that actually work, we know thats the case, this is the sixth test. The second is having a missile capable of flying that far, hes now demonstrated that. The third is, having a Nuclear Weapon small enough to put on one of those missiles, we dont know for sure whether he can do that or not, Intelligence Community assessment from late july the Defense Intelligence agency says he has that capability. That leaves us with the fourth, which is the whole thing working under the pressures of reentry. Having separation of the warhead from the missile work having all of the Electronics Work under that great pressure and speed and heat of reentry. We dont know if he can do that or not. So, not sure exactly where he is, but every time he does one of these he demonstrates to us greater and greater capability. What do we know about kim jung union himself. Hes boxing in President Trump to negotiate hon his own terms . This capability that he is after to put u. S. Cities at risk, three reasons for him. One is, he wants to enhance his own political prestige at home. Hes put a lot of Political Capital in being able to do this at home. Thats one. I think hes not, but i think hes somewhat paranoid, he has killed many members of the elite who that suggests to me that perhaps he thinks hes in some peril. But he wants to strengthen himself at home. The second reason he wants to deter us, he believes that we want to overthrow him. He beliefs that we want to reunite the Korean Peninsula on souths terms. We dont. We dont wouldnt to do that but he believes it. He sees these weapons as the ultimate deterrent. Third reason, he wants to be able to extort us. Once he can demonstrate this capability then hell say, come and sit at the table, im the nuclear power, lets have a different conversation, lets start the conversation by saying you the United States need to leave the Korean Peninsula. He wants to do all thee of those things. I think margaret that people are wrong when they say hes crazy. Hes not crazy. Hes very rational in his own world. He is smart, he is decisive, he is persistent but hes also an attention seeker, paranoid in way that i talked about and extraordinarily violent. This is a different kind of guy. President trump convenes the National Security team today what are his optionn. He has the first option which any president has which is diplomacy. Try to convince this person to step back officer the brink. Thats failed for the last 25 years. Theres absolutely no reason to believe its going to be successful now. I think we need to try, we need to push that. But if that fails, which i think it will, were left with two options. A military option which would be probably not be successful and fully degrading of capabilities and could create probably most likely a second korean war. Thousands of deaths. Or the other option is, acceptance of this capability, containment, deterrence just the way we contained and deterred the soviet union. Tough options by the way. Bad options. Thank you very much. We turn now to the other big story were following this morning, harveys aftermath. The flood waters are receding but the death pole and financial toll continue to climb. At least 45 people have died as a result of harvey and the governor of texas says damages will be much more than Hurricane Katrina with some estimates reaching more than 160 billion. More than one Million People have been displaced, some 200,000 homes were damaged or destroyed in texas and louisiana. And gas price have now jumped 26 cents a gallon nationally since just last week. We begin our coverage of harvey this morning with cbs news correspondent anna warner reporting from beaumont, texas. While houston and some parts of texas may bish recovery mode here in the beaumont youre, there are still entire subdivisions under water and whats worse, residents in beaumont still have no drinking would ther. But last night city officials announced they believe they have come up with what should be a temporary fix. We are not at the finish line but weve undoubtedly regained a second wind. Beaumont meyer told reporters temporary solution should restore the would ther service lost, the citys 120,residents have no drinking would ther are waiting in long lines. But engineers have been working around the clock and now say they come up with a stopgap fix, setting up temporary pumps to provide a water supply. Sounds like you feel like you pulled off a save here. Its like a win. It still does. But we have a long way to go. As the city and private Companies Work to bring up the water pressure First Responders in crosby, texas, are watching the understanded Chemical Plant after two explosion releasing black smoke. The plant owner warned more explosions could come. Officials are monitoring air quality after the release of potentially hazardous chemicals. But some sense ever normalcy returned saturday as Houston Astros played first home game since harvey struck. Players and fans observed a moment of silence and houstons mayor took a break from hurricane recovery to throw out the first pitch. While texans are anxious to return to their daily lives it will be days, probably weeks before many can return home here. Cbs news correspondent has been covering harvey since it made landfall. Hes in South Houston this morning, david, how is the recovery going where you are . Slowly and delicately. Margaret, people have letter from world war ii that are drying in the front yard, pictures of babys baptism, the family lives here a foot of water inside their house nearly everything was ruined. To protect what they have left from loot commerce is a real problem, they have been sleeping in that tent for the last four nights with a box fan to keep them cool. It is hot and humid as you can imagine. But in the air theres also a moldy, musty smell, in fact for folks who have respiratory issues, the air quality is very unhealthy. As you look outside the home the belongings stretch around the sidewalk, as you look down the street which appears to piles of trash or personal treasures, it goes on as far as you can see. Especially as you get into the outer suburb it is unimagable how many homes have been affected. What would have been the gem throughout all of this, the civilian samaritans. People who were recovery workers today were rescuers on monday. Folks who we rode with who took people out of their home in chest deep water have returned to those homes to help people rebuild, ripping out sheetrock. People who dont even know the victims of this National Disaster but showed up at their doorstep and said, what can i do for you . David begnaud, thank you. We go now to the mayor of houston Sylvester Turn who are joins us from the citys convention center. Good morning to you, mayor. I want to know who is houston need right now, what did you ask President Trump for when you met with him yesterday . Two things in terms of immediate needs, housing, housing assistance. We need rapid repair housing because many, many people have elected to stay in their homes theyre now dry but they need to be repaired. In some case may need to be rebuilt. This is earl is hely important for the seniors, low income, but people all over the city. Housing, housing, housing, rapid repair housing and i asked him to expand the rapid repair Housing Program to 15,000 up to 35,000. The second thing, debris removal. Most of the city now dry and people are putting out their heavy debris. The city of houston started thursday picking up this debris built we have to get it done like now. Cant be sitting around, 30, 45, two months from now and so advanced funding for debris removal, he understood it. But those are the two things that im highlighting up at the very front. Housing, housing, Recovery Centers so that people can register, go through the fema process and third thing i dont want to leave this out. We have First Responders that have been out here assisting everybody else. But many ever my First Responders over 300 have had serious flooding problems themselves. So i ask for an expedited fema registration, of Processing System specifically for First Responders and he really gave a thumbs up on that. Sir, houston is the center of the petrol chemical industry, youve got so much stagnant water there, what kind of contamination have you seen and what kind ever help is the epa giving you right now . Well, thats still being assessed most of those superfund sites sites are immediately outside of the city of houston, we would hope that the epa would be on the ground now to take a look at those superfund sites to make sure that contamination is contained. And limited. But i cant specifically speak to that, many of those areas are outside of the city of houston. Can you say that houston is safe now or that Drinking Water is safe now . The Drinking Water was never a question, our plants continue to function. No one had to borrow any water. Water is safe. The electric grid is pretty much sound, only about 12,000 people in the city of houston without power. The airport system is up and bring, the Transit System is up and running. Weve started picking up heavy debris. Let me be very clear. The city of houston is open for business. Anyone who is planning on conference or convention or sporting event or concert coming to this city, you can still come. We want to you still come. We can do multiple things at the same time. Now, were checking on our seniors, low income communities, houses across the city of houston to make sure that we are repairing those homes but we can do that at the same tame time. Only two areas under water in the city of houston in the northeast in kingwood, that is getting better. Then in west houston, those homes didnt flood because of the rainfall they are flooding because of the release of water from the reservoir. And right now we are only talking about 26 homes in west houston, what ive said to them if you have water in your home, were asking you to requiring you to evacuate if you dont have any water in your home youre fine. I want to be very clear. Yes, it was a very serious storm, historic, unprecedented but the city of houston is open for business. And so if you have a conference, convention, concert, any of those things that were planning to come to this city we are still ready to welcome you. On tuesday, we are getting back on our feet and im expecting employees police to open, employees to go to work all City Employees are due back at work. Important message given that houston is the fifth largest economy, i know you want to drive that home. But can you give me a sense, yesterday you were trying to send that message clearly with this baseball game you had in your city, you threw out the first opening pitch. What did that feel like, does it feel like recovery is where you are now . Look, it felt good. People were cheering. There were smiles, by the way, i want to appreciate the new york mets because they came down and they were at one of the First Responder site serving them lunch, i appreciate the Houston Astros won both of those games let me say that, we won both. People are feeling good. Even at this shelter where we are right now, there were 10,000 people in this shelter, the number is down to significantly less than 2,000. And just mat are of five days. So, theres city of houston just like the surrounding region, was seriously hurt and its going to be a very expensive proposition, we take it day by day, but at the same time, this is a cando city. That is a cando city, were not going to engage in a pity party, were going to take care of each other, neighbors are taking care of each other, businesses are responding, community is responding but we are getting back on our feet and we are open for business. We do want people to continue to come to the city. The port of houston is now open. Mayor, so Many Americans thinking of your city this weekend i want to thank you for joining us today. Well be back in one minute. Pray for us. We will. We we will. We head of fema, brock long, will join us. And we covered it, july first, twentyfifteen. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum im vern, the orange money retirement rabbit, from voya. Im the money you save for retirement. Whos he . Hes green money, for spending today. Makes it easy to tell you apart. That, and i am better looking. I heard that. When its time to get organized for retirement, its time to get voya. Brennan the head of the federal Emergency Management agency, fema, brock long, joins us from washington. Its been a very busy time for you, sir, i appreciate you making the time. Can you tell us the white house already asked for 7 billion expect billions more to be needed in houston, quite soon. How much money does fema need to help this recovery . Thats hard to estimate right now. Obviously not only is the president fully engaged, his staff, tom bossert, secretary duke, all of us are working together to correctly inform the congress on how to give us the enduring authority to go forward to make sure that we meet the demands for not only harvey but potentially threatening irma out there as well. I feel like what we have going on right now is excellent communication with the congress and the Congress Knows what need to be done to make sure that we can meet the demands of who is going on. Brennan you mentioned irma, what are you expecting from that hurricane . What bothers me about irma, what we need the u. S. Virgin island and puerto rico and folks down in southeastern United States as well as mid atlantic any time a hurricane has welldefined center of circulation, the confidence is high when it comes from the National Hurricane center. Models are in pretty good agreement. Right now were ramping up, already deployed commodities into island territories where weve fully deployed Incident Management Teams to puerto rico and virgin island. Were shifting focus to irma as well as maintaining the effort to make sure that we have recovery command established in texas and louisiana. Brennan when it comes to harvey, 33 trillion gallons of water dumped on u. S. Soil has been called one in 1,000 year event. Do we need to be prepared for more extreme weather like this and is the onus on the states rather than federal government . I think thats an excellent question. Any state representatives, state legislative officials and local elected officials to listen up, this is a call, it is a wakeup call for this country for local and state elected officials to give their governors and their Emergency Management directors the full budgets that they need to be fully staffed to Rainy Day Fund have your own stand alone programs. That is a wake up call, people cannot depend solely on the federal Emergency Management agency to be responsible for a majority. States do a lot of work they do a lot of work, but we all have to collectively sit down after this event and figure out how to collectively improve. Brennan are you saying, sir, that texas should have done more to prepare . No, no. Texas is a model. Governor abbott, those guys are a model. What we need are for elected officials at all levels of government to hit the reset button, sit down, evaluate where their programs are with their state Emergency Management directors as well as local Emergency Management directors mac sure they have everything they need to increase their levels of self sufficiency. This is a partnership. But this event is one that were all going to have to hit the reset button on figure out how we we collectively improve. Brennan your agency oversees the National Flood Insurance Program that will expire, about 80 or more people in the area hit by harvey dont have any understand insurance. What are you expecting, are people there basically on their own . No, people its tough. Individual assistance is offered up by federal Emergency Management agency just a ray of hope. Its a bridge to kick start recovery. Those who are uninsured are most likely eligible for femas individual Assistance Program they can help them with host of things, not only rapid repairs to their home, maybe some funding if they also their jobs and Different Things or rental fees that kind of thing if they can pay. Bottom line is that its not going to be enough to make anybody whole. The other thing is that in this country, federal Disaster Recovery support comes from multitude of agencies. Also the sba will be offering up low interest loans to those as well, because they have a disaster declaration. H. U. D. Funding kicks in. What we have to do is help citizens understand what theyre entitled to to kick start their recovery. Bob brock long, fema, good luck to you, sir. Well be back in a home. The day after chemo might mean a trip back to the doctors office, just for a shot. But why go back there, when you can stay home. With Neulasta Onpro . 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Were joined by executive director of Harris County Public Health hes coordinated the medical response at nrg stadium where more than 2,000 auto vac could you hes were sheltered even had to evacuate his own house. Doctor, are you back home yet . Yes, my family came home two days ago. It was a pretty harrowing experience for all of us. I just underscores that this hasnt just impacted our community its impacted even our responders. Brennan what is the feeling on the ground . Do you have a sense that you have moved into the recovery phase . There are still some place where some streets that are having some flooding that has continued to have some impact on the recovery side. I dont want to say weve completely gotten out of that immediate phase, but, were moving towards that longer term look at what does recovery mean for our community. Brennan youve been telling people to avoid those flood batters they got everything from snakes to alligators now concern about chemical contamination. For you, what is the greatest health risk . Yeah, apologies, theres a truck right behind me im having a little bit trouble hearing you. Just to let you know, weve been talking to our community throughout this, before the storm, obviously during the storm and even now poststorm that flooded waters have a number of different hazards and that includes like you said, critters and snakes, those kind ever things. But also the real concern around downed power lines and really our biggest concern is that these waters are not safe. Theyre not there are harmful, whether substance or chemicals or bacteria, other kinds of Infectious Disease agents. When folks are being exposed to these, were really asking them, were imploring them to take precaution so that they are cleaning, disinfecting doing those things. If they have to even they out items that they have have been ex potioned to that. Thats very difficult as you know, for example, if children have their favorite toy and that toy has now been exposed to water you cant clean it, were saying throw it out that becomes really challenging message to a child. Those are thing that are brennan what are those chemicals and contaminants that you just gestured to. Chemical plant and some explosions there. Fumes in the air but also concern there might be chemicals in the flood waters. What are you seeing . What contaminants are there . The kinds of things that you have to always think about is that the flood water is first of all its got even if it wasnt clear it likely has something in there. The real concern is that household chemicals just very every day chemicals that people have in their homes have now mixed into those waters. Then you also have the challenge where you might have Mechanic Shop or another business that may have been understanded out and they may have other more industrial type of chemicals. Rather than talking about the specifics, there are a lot of different chemicals that can go into the mix. Then obviously as you mentioned when you have large scale chemical activities that really starts to become increasing concern. We have to really manage that. Thats why that message just stay out of the waters or do what you need to do to clean and disinfect. Brennan do you feel you have all the resource you need if you dont know the contaminants yet do you feel like youre prepared to deal with the fall out . You know, weve been through a lot of merge sees before, everything from alice, Tropical Storm allison that we had large scale flood event. Hurricane katrina where we had 27,000, 12 years to the date right behind me. Hurricane rita response where we had to evacuate and hurricane ik thats correct hit us then storms in between. We always use those experiences to really help us as we move forward. But the one thing that i would say is that no emergency is alike. That this is a massive, massive devastating emergency for our community. On that national level, as many of the Health Departments across the system know we are oftentimes the offensive line that have football team. People dont know the work that we do until Something Like this happens. I think its important to know that resource for capabilities are absolutely always necessary. Do we have enough . You never have enough. But we have really what we think right now to continue to manage this. Brennan thank you very much. Good luck to you. Well be right back with our panel. Stay with us. David. Whats going on . Oh hey thats it . Yeah. Everybody two seconds dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. Through the tuition Assistance Program, every day mcdonalds helps more people go to college. Its part of our commitment to being americas best first job. Have you any wool . 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The they claim that they had a bomb we dont think they had then. But it certainly looks to be four to six times bigger than anything they have done before which is to say four to six times bigger than the bombs that took out nagasaki and hiroshima. This was a big explosion, dont know fit was hydrogen weapon. Mike morell described the paucity of options here. But i also think that the trump team tested for the first time, they may not fully agree that there are no military options, here members of the team talk about military option, is that they think they have. They agree there would be a lot of blow back to it. But im not sure they are persuaded that military is off the table. Brennan margaret, what are you hearing, the president tweeted, whats next . The president s two tweets were interesting because first one was pretty measured you could call i will general kelly tweet. Second one was quickly south korea is weak so is china. The president is at church then convene a meeting. I think that at point resume conversation, is that have been ongoing. The idea that there could be test like this has been known and predicted all summer but to come soon after the fire and fury comment suggest either a test of what President Trump will do next, much how china will react, maybe both. Though will go right back today huddle at the white house and discuss these options. Brennan nancy, we know that the secretary of state is making calls, talked to his counterpart in south korea. When we talk about disconnect within the administration you saw that earlier this week. Secretary of defense, jim mattis, came and seemed to be reversing a statement that the president had made when president tweeted talking is not the answer. Then mattis said were never out of diplomatic options, who is right . Which is the strategy . Well, so far secretary mattis has been right in that after those comments were made the white house put out a statement about a read out of call between President Trump and president of south korea where they talked about diplomacy. Mattis has an interest in pushing diplomacy from his perspective. Trying to protect relationships with allies. We a sure that the u. S. Is there to support them. We assure the west itself that there are other options of what he sees as catastrophic military options, yes, theyre there. Consequence are so big nobody understands that more than secretary of defense from the position where he sits and military option, is that hes looking at. Brennan yet the president tweeted this morning as you ref presenced there, south korea, ive been telling them appeasement is not an option. Its very confusing because, at some point a party has to be chosen, is it the trade relationship with south korea we awesome discussion about staring up that fiveyear deal or dealing with the threat. That is allies have to be on the same page, if were arguing with south korea about trade it makes much hard tore get on the same page how to address south corey a. There seems to be back and fourth what the priority is in terms of the administration. And we saw that in the tweets which he referred to appeasement with south korea became breaking news alert within the south korean press. Brennan thats a few things that are alarming here, one is that at the very moment that we should be making sure that were on the same page with our allies we seem to be unnecessarily, unsurprisingly provoking them both on talking about tearing up the trade deal and on appeasement front. Then, to davids scary remarks, i understand why administration boo want north korea to believe that military options are on the table. But there are options but they are as you said catastrophic, the thought of using them. If talking is not the answer, might not be the answer alone. Maybe talking with sanctions, maybe the the containment. But military options are disaster. We have the treasury secretary on this morning sayi saying, were readying another round of sanctions, what are the option, is that you referred to . There are sanctions you can do, weve been trying since 1953 in various forms since soon after the korean war ended. So, if you wanted to do sanctions it would make a difference, you have to go after their energy supply. Its very hard to do. Brennan thats a china question. And russia question. Primarily china. The chinese still have not come to the conclusion that it is worse to have a Nuclear North Korea than collapsed north korea they are not likely to do anything that would lead to collapse, cutting off energy could do that. There are cyber options, in other words, way of trying to attack the North Koreans without being clearly us without causing the kind of chaos that you would from bombing from the error doing something similar to that. The problem is we dont think they are terribly effective. There was Cyber Operation that president obama outrised starting in 2014. Unfortunately it was working for awhile, its not working any more terribly effectively. Finally, there are option, is that would basically cut off all interactions with the country, shipping, do the embargo that United States did against japan prior to pearl harbor. Tried against cuba. But that risk. Brennan congress is coming back in session. I hear that. Brennan were gearing up for that. Senator mccain will return but he went to italy and made extraordinary remarks, i want to read these to you, share them with our viewers. He pointed to sort of americas role in the world saying, many are questioning whether america is still remaining engaged in the world, upholding traditional alliances and standing up for the values we share. And this has much to do with some of the actions and statements of our president and he guess toured to the debate underway in the country right now about what kind of role america should play in the world. The future of the world will turn to a large extent on how this debate in america is resolved. What is he bringing back to washington . Well, you know, senator mccain has never been exactly shy about stating his views. But now hes sadly and gravel gravely i have to play out that he wrote a very fullthroated op ed for the Washington Post this week where he talked about how Congress Needed to stand up to President Trump, about how he acts as if congress is not a coequal branch of government. He is back and loaded for bear. I think deeply worried as are many members of congress, many of his colleagues about a retrenchment in the world of the United States and need to sort of send signals to our allies that, while they may have thoughts about this president , he will not be president forever. And that the u. S. Is not going to abandoned its role in the world. Brennan thats extraordinary message to be share with our allies, but senator mccain thought it was necessary. I think john mccain is in full legacy, splash, leave nothing on the table mode right now. Hes saying the same that the House Speaker and Senate Majority leader either dont feel that they should say or cant say strategically for reasons that have to do with party unity or mid term election. But i also think that if you ask mccain he would say that trump started it in terms of not leaving politics at the waters edge that the president crossed lines in ways where others havent. Where does this all go . Politically speaking, andrea merkel, look at the french leader, rest of the world leaders, increasingly open to publicly expressing some of their concerns about u. S. Leadership. Im not sure what impact it has on the world, domestically it has an impact. Seems to embolden people to speak out more forcefully even if it involves contradicting administration. The crisis most immediate at home has been harvey. You saw the president return to the state of texas this weekend, he said as tough as it is then, its been a wonderful thing. Perhaps reference to some of the signs of unity there, ruth, how do you grade the president s response . I think you need to grade the president on two different metrics. One is technical merit. How well has the federal government working with state and local governments responded to this cries. On that may be the most important metric. I would give the administration so far a good grade on that, we have not brownie would not have gotten entrouble for heck of a job, brownie, if he had been doing a heck of a job. On that, some worries about whats happening with the superfund sites, some quibbles about if the proposed budget cuts had gone through what might have happened but technical merit, good frayed. On good grade. On emotional response, this president is empathy impaired. And so, i think he wants to say the right thing but the right thing doesnt come out of his mouth. So, you see comments like the one you cited, hell talk about the great turn out, hell talk use the opportunity to take a jab at the media. He doesnt do feel your pain very well. That is not good for him, its not good for the country but i think hes trying his best on that. Brennan does the debt ceiling increase get tied to the Harvey Relief . I think in a strange way, all of the problems that are coalescing in september for congress in a very short timeframe, but debt ceiling, government funding, have been made ironically perhaps a little bit easier by harvey so some of the usual because were going to need billions of dollars the administration asked for the first part that have money. The usual maneuvering about how we cant do this without offsets and things like that. And the threats to fema operations and other operations that would not just come from the debt ceiling but from shutting down the government, im hopeful that harvey for all the suffering its caused, i dont want to be empathy impaired myself, what need to happen in wash bash easier. Brennan the president will announce the deferred action, the children of immigrants who brought their kid here illegally that is on the 5th do that impact, undue the goodwill weve been talking about . It depend both on what plan hes going to unvail how he unveils it. Brennan do we have indication . We do, sort of. Everyone i talk to in the white house says this has been a matter of intense debate, where feelings have changed and shifted in terms much precisely what to do. Here are the parameters that we all know. There is some push for Congressional Republicans to take the lead an the 6th there is counter balancing threat of the lawsuit, the Court Challenged by group of red states attorneys general, trying to find that sweet spot in the middle where he fulfills a Campaign Promise to crackdown on illegal immigration. Does the president say, the administration is not going to enforce not going to support, defend daca in Court Challenges and really wants congress to fix it then kind of leave it to congress to fix it. Some version that have is what people are expecting. But as we all know with this administration, until it happens its very hard to know precisely what. The thinking with daca just like you think harvey, theres a thought if this end up with congress there may be potentially room for compromise where daca and some sort of wall effort are paired together. Thats the thing to look for. Brennan long laundry list weve got through halfful it right now. Thank you. Were going to be back in a moment with some thoughts from one of our favorite texans here at fay the nation, Bob Schieffer, going to give us his impression of Hurricane Harvey. Grocery outlet is the home of wow savings. Wow means you save 50 or more. There are three stages of wow. Denial. Is this price right . Acceptance. And boooyah wait for it. Boooyah has three os. Grocery outlet bargain market announcer this week all assorted pepsi brand 12 packs are just 2. 66 each. Brennan americans have been moved by the pictures and stories of people helping others even total strangers in the aftermath of harvey. A rare moment of unity in an often divided nation. We asked one of our favorite native texans, Bob Schieffer, who covered his first hurricane in texas back in 1967 to give us his thoughts about harvey a storm that hit texas 50 years later. Slammed into the texas coast back in 196. Before i came to cbs. It left onesixth of my home state under water. Harvey would be even worse. But as i watched what harvey brought i was struck by just how similar those pictures were to my memories of would you la, 50 years ago. Our technology so so good we knew exactly when harvey would make landfall and a lot more. But its not the technology we remember. Its realizing the awesome power of nature. This was would you la, this is harvey. Somehow the big ones always turn out worse than we thought. This is me one day into katrina. We knew it was bad tonight we are beginning to understand just how bad. In a hurricane its all hands on deck whatever your job. Reporter brandy smith of our houston affiliate khou was doing a live report when she saw man trapped in a flooded truck. She flagged down a rescue boat team and led them to it. I am terrified. Here he comes. As she was reporting her station was being evacuated because of high water. But its always the most vulnerable who suffer the most. These kids got through beulah, these will make it through harvey. The pictures of traffic jams ever texans who didnt wait to be asked for help made me proud. They just loaded their boats on trailers and headed into the worst of it. Nor will i soon forget the pictures of these poor people in a retirement home. We can can thankful they were found. As it always is, we saw the worst bring out our best. After the awful scenes we saw just weeks ago in charlottesville, in texas we saw white kids and black kids just being kids. In a hurricane it doesnt matter what youre flack or white or brown or purple, maybe we do have to be taught to hate. The statistics this storm has generated are staggering, more important are the numbers well never really know, all those who just showed up to help. The furniture dealer mattress mack who opened a shelter. Singers who sang. Barbers who showed up at shelters with their clippers. People forming human chains to rescue others. Bake horse baked. And the pizza guy who would not be deterred. And, yes, that is spiderman. Only texans would know all this unfolded on and around the very battlefield where sam houston and his ragtag army against all odds fought for and won texas independence from mexico. This week their descendants met another powerful force, its not over yet, but my money is on texas. For anyways the nation, this is Bob Schieffer. Brennan thats it for us today. Thanks for watching. John dickerson will be back next sunday. For face the nation im Margaret Brennan have a great labor day. Captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org male announcer the following is a paid program. [music] john collins if youve been waiting to go solar, waiting for that best price of the year, today is your day. Its solar insanity. Weve got 200 solarpower systems drastically reduced. Were going to sell them all today, so you might as well call. Get going, weve got solar, weve got roofing, weve got battery storage, weve got roofing and solar combos. 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