Theater. Well get the latest from the state governor, bobby jindal. And then joe menchin about gun laws and mental health. And the reporters round table. Its all ahead on face the n captioning sponsored by cbs good morning and welcome to face the nation. Im john dickerson. We begin with kentucky rand paul. Senator paul, i want to start with kentucky politics. You were cenas the example of a politician who tapped into the grass roots and brought that energy to washington. People are now saying that about donald trump. That hes grabbed that same energy. Do you agree . Well, any cand daift with a billion dollars worth of free advertising might help them get the message out. But i think were doing well. We havent gotten quite the same attention recently, but when you look at my polling against Hillary Clinton i lead her in five states won by president obama. We even led Hillary Clinton in pennsylvania which hasnt been won by a republican in a long time. So i think our candidacy which im billing as a different kind of republican, were pretty happy where we are. John do you think the different kind of republican, that youre bringing out different kinds of voters than the ones attracted to trump by the billion dollars worth of coverage that you talk about . Yeah. Ive been to detroit and the south side of chicago. Ive been to ferguson and philadelphia. Ive gone to howard university. I am trying to say you know what, im a different kind of republican and we need a more diverse Republican Party. So i think our strategies are slightly different as far as try how we grow the party. But i think well see in the end which is more successful. I think the Republican Party if we begin attracting more africanamerican votes were going to be a big party and a party thats very difficult to beat. John id like to sku about Hillary Clinton and the emails friday. There were reports that investigatorsed from the state department and other federal agents found that they discovered classified material in her private email. Heres what secretary clinton said in response to that. Lets hear what she had to say. Im confident i never received or sent any classified information at the time it was sent and received. I think what youre seeing here is a very typical kind of discussion to some extent, to a disagreement among various parts of the agreement over what should or should not be publicly released. Additionally the Clinton Campaign says it has nothing to do with bengahzi which the investigation is supposed to be about. Whats your reaction to that . This is president obamas department of justice saying she may have revealed classified information. This isnt a bunch of republicans making a mrlt point. This is president obamas government saying she may have released classified information. Heres the other important thing. The rules say that she should have it on a government serveer and use a government email. She doesnt obey the rules and then says, oh, trust me, i didnt have any classified information. And trust me. Ive given you all the emails. Its a little bit hard to have trust in Hillary Clinton when she breaks every rule and then were supposed toed trust her to give us all of her email . I think this is a real problem for Hillary Clinton. And this isnt going away. John and to the question of what it has to do with bengahzi . With bengahzi several emails do have to do with bengahzi. I asked her did you read the cables from the ambassador . If she did Exchange Emails with the ambassador on a nonclassified setting even his whereabouts and acknowledging he was in bengahzi could be a breach of security. Her schedule is a breach of security. She puts herself at risk by having her schedule sent back and forth on a nonclassified or a nongovernment server, and also the people that have to protect the secretary of state are put at risk by having her schedule out there. They did this because theyre clintons, and the clintons think they live above the law and differently than all of the rest of america. And i think its going to come back to bite her. John talk about tax policy. You put out a video that got notice andening ta. In the voo you had a wood chipper and a chain saw you were destroying the tax code. You would like a flat tax. One of the things is every lobbyist has their fingers in it and thats why you want a flat tax. How do you get to a flat tax in a city overrun with lobbyists messing around in the tax code . Youve got that right. The city is overrun with lobbyist. And they dont want a flat tax, they want to manipulate it to help their customers. I think the 70,000 page tax code we have is chasing jobs and companies overseas. Burger king reincorporated in canada. Canadas business tax is half of ours. You get rid of the favoriteism, and have a single rate. 14 1 2 for businesses and individuals. And the one thing we do is get rid of the payroll tax. If youre a worker and you make 40,000 a year, youre going to get 2,000 a year more with the flat tax. Switch now to put legislation forward about planned parenthood. Planned parenthood is under crittedicism for some of the videos. They vey people are talking about fetal tissue research. They vey people are talking about fetal tissue research. You want to deny federal funding. How do you plan to do that . As a physician, i watched this video of a physician and her callous disregard for anything human about life, and just to casually say oh, well, we manipulate the baby around to get the body parts out first, and then crush the head at the end instead of the beginning. I think even prochoice people were horrified by this. I think the abortion issue i dont talk to prochoice friends who horrified bue this. Every bit of money planned parenthood gets is given to Community Health centers. They do everything planned parenthood does, except for abortion. Theres no reason for planned parenthood to get any federal money, and its unacceptable to a vast majority of people. John unacceptable but are they illegal and will that help you get legislation through . My legislation is not whether its liloer not. Money can change hands for research purposes, but realize what this woman is saying. This woman is saying she manipulates the body around, and most babies present head first. Shes moving the baby around so the head is still in, trying not to crush the liver, and talking about harvesting baby parts. Whether its against the law or not everybody in america is horrified by th, and they dont want their tax dollars going to this group. John thanks for being with us. Thanks, john. John and joining us from austin is former Texas Governor rick perry. Governor perry, i want to sku. You said that donald trump was a cancer on conservatism, and you also said that he threatens to send the Republican Party into the graveyard. What did you mean by that . I want to be clear that im not going to go quietly as any individual as when donald trump lays out concept that is are outlined with the old historical conservatism. I think conservatism is the future of the country allowing people to live free from overtaxation and overlitigation, overregulation. Thats what we need to be talk youing about in this country, and not being trying to divide the country. Conservatism is about bringing people together. Finding solutions. I hear mr. Trump with some rather inflammatory remarks. You know, whether or not you agree with john mccain or not, his politics, you must not say that hes not a hero. And those that are captured to belittle those. At that particular point in time, ime not going to be quiet about an individual running into the republican ticket saying that theyre a conservative, but not espousing conservative views. So in that instance, john mccain and some of the things he said, i know theyre distasteful, bihow they harm the conservative message. I think any time you have someone who is going to ask to be the commander in chief of the military, and to cast dispersion on those individuals, how is that individual going to have the respect of the men ask women that theyre going to ask to go into harms way . I think that is the type of rhetoric. Weve had a divider in the white house for six and a half years. In barack obama. We dont need that out of the republican nominee. We certainly dont need a republican divider in chief. John when i talk to Republican Voters who have good things to say about mr. Trump, they say hes just telling it like it is, and they like his kind of that he doesnt hold back. What do you say to those voters . L hes obviously talking about Border Security, and weve been dealing with that for the last five or six years. Its not something new to us. We understand that that is a real concern for americans. Whether or not theyre republicans or democrats. I think in a lot of cases Americans Care about the cuter. But throwing out invectives and ideas that dont hold water is not what americans are looking for. We need a serious mature conversation about solutions on how to deal with that border. I know how to do that. Last summer when the president came to dallas, and i looked him in the face and said mr. President , if you dont secure the borders texas will. And mr. Trump he took offence that texas hadnt done its job and we failed on Border Security. The real issue here is that donald trump obviously didnt either recognize or know that Border Security is the federal governments responsibility. Its not the states responsibility, but when the state fails im going to step in and try to protect my citizens as best i can. And in doing so protecting the rest of this country. We had a very successful effort last year. A 74 decrease in apprehensions after we sent our National Guard and texas ranger recon teams and parks and wildlife wardens. This conversation needs to be about solutions. John the voters turning out in such numbers for donald trump are they mistaken in affections for him. Why are they cheering him on . Theres i lot of time to go and a lot of conversations to be had. Theres a lot of debates. And laying out solutions, whether its dealing with economics, whether its dealing with our security, whether its dealing with Foreign Policy. At that particular point in time mr. Trump will be requireed to get down and to lay out solutions and not juster sound bytes. The reality tv will gather a lot of interest in a lot of people and enjoy the celebrity of that, but for the last 14 years ive had to live in the real world and deal with real world issues. And i think thats what the people of the country want. John is there anything he says that you do agree with . He makes a good point that weve got challenges on the border. I just disagree when he says that texas is not doing a good job when the fact of the matter is that texas rangers, the texas recon teams and the National Guard have done a fabulous job on the border. But its not texas responsibility. I think thats the real challenge for me, is to help educate him whats going on. Im glad he came to the border. I hope he came away understanding it better than he had before. John governor perry thank you for being with us. Well be right back. Stay with us. Investigators are trying to determine the motive of John Russell Houser when he killed two and injured 9 before he turned the gun on himself. They obtained this security video at the hotel houser had been staying at prior to the shooting. He had a history of Mental Illness, but purchased the handgun legally in alabama. We go now to lafayette and the governor of louisiana bobby jindal. Governor, have you learned anything more about what prompted this attack . John, i know Law Enforcement continues the investigation, and going through the journals i found in the hotel room, and talked to family members. We know some things we didnt know in the last couple of days. For example, it appears and theyre still trying to confirm this it appears he may have been in other movie theaters in southlouisiana. We they not know dwr he chose lafayette or thursday night. We know this theater had security on friday ask saturday night. We know there was an exit with a park if nearby. Heechs trying to escape. Hea wig and diguises in the hotel and car. Why he came here and chose thursday night to disrupt innocent peoples lives. We may never have the answers, though. John people are searching for an swrp in the wake of this. Whats your feeling about the person with a history of Mental Illness and still was able to purchase a gun . John, that never should have happened. Here in louisiana we passed tougher laws a couple of years ago. For example this howdser had been involuntarily committed here in lose lutes that information is automatically remited to the national backgroup check system, and he wouldnt have been able to buy a gun or go into that pawn shop and buy that gun as he did in another state. Look every time this happens, it seems like the person has a history of Mental Illness. We need to make sure the systems in place work. In louisiana we toughened laws a couple of years ago. If he had been involuntarily committed here and tried to buy the gun here, he wouldnt have been able to. So making sure the states are following the laws better or how does a person searching for a solution here what do they look to . Every state is stressing laws and makings sure information is reported in the background system. We need to make sure that the background system is working. This man never should have been able to buy a gun. Theres evil in the world and i know a lot of folks are upset and angry that somebody would walk in and feel he had the right to take innocent lives and disrupt these families. I talked to the father thursday night i actually went to the emergency room and talked to the father of the first girlauto first woman tlafs shot that was shot. He was desperately hoping that his daughter had surviveed and somehow she had just gotten lost in the shuffle. First responders went back in and got the drivers license, she happened to be it is very first person that houser shot and killed. Thats news no father wants to get. Tomorrow that father and mom, they have to bury a child. No parent should have to go through that. Theres a lot of tough emotions here in louisiana. A lot of angern and grief over why this mad man came in here and disrupted peoples lives. His daughter simply went to a movie. John let me ask you built Funeral Service tomorrow. The westboro baptister church is threat i think to disrupt. What do you do to keep them away. Fi. They try to disrupt this funeral, were going to arrest them. They shouldnt try that in louisiana. We want to let the families grieve and celebrate their daughters, their childrens, their spouses lives in peace. They better not try that nonsense here. Governor jindal, thank you for being with us. Thank you, john. John joining us is now to manchin you worked on Gun Legislation until wake of the you new town shooting. Its gun sense. I dont know a person who hab adjudidateed mentally opener a criminal to be able to get a gun. Were just saying shut down the loopholes with the background check. With that said we need to have a thorough job and people need to turn records in, and we know who is criminally prosecuted or adjudicated mentally. And it gets into the system, and right now a lot of states and territories and areas do not do it, and they need to do that ask make sure its done, and used the way the government does to make sure we have an accurate data base. I understand it was a pawn shop. Im not saying he did anything wrong. But somehow that shouldnt have happened. Him having a criminal record and a mental problem on top of that. He was a double whammy on us. John is there any federal solution to what youre talking about. Somebody slips through the cracks here. Whats the political environment for any federal Gun Legislation . Right now republicans any of my friends on the republican side of the isle to help us with the most reasonable sensible path forward. Pat toony worked on this, and we looked at this, and its not gun control. Its just saying if you go to a gun show, commercial transaction, we need ton who you are, and if you have a problem before. If youve been criminal or a mental problem. And if you go on the internet, those are two ways we dont have personal contact. We give rights back to law abiding gun owners. But people are scared. They say im scared because i dont trust the government. And its a shame when you get in that position that you dont trust anybody. Were not going to let that happen. We protect skkd amendment rights. We have to step forward with the fbi backgowned checks and make sure the courts on doing their jobs. Let me ask you about Hillary Clinton as a democratic representative. You heard what senator rand paul said. He said this is not just a political witch hunt. This is people from within the Obama Administration looking into the emails and the private server. When i became governor, people sit down and counsel you and tell you what you can and cant do and whats done in the past and how people handled these affairs. And im sure hillary went through the same situation. Shes more high profile. With that said, theyre watching her closer f. Shes done something wrong, it will come forward. We havent seen that. Shes willing to testify and turn things over. Shes done everything asked. The one thing she wont turn over is the server. Thats something she did she had her own system at home. Basically she had her husband, who was a former president they used the server he had. Its a situation where a sitting ment, and he basically served his term out and his wife steps in. It is what it is. I think basically we should be talking about the problems we video in the country. Your administration would have to have support. One of the ways they train the argument is if you dont get a deal here, theres going to be military action. If its a way to stop military action would you support this deal . Ifrt first of all john, military action, we can do that any time. We can drop a bomb, anyplace, any time, anywhere. Im saying if we can prevent that war tr star