In homestead, florida, where i grew up, the conditions are horrible. They are. On jining a lautd that would kill coverage for preexisting conditions. I am in favor of preexisting conditions. So drop the lawsuit. So, we will drop your aspect of the lawsuit. And his biggest regret as president. If you could have one doover as president , what would it be . And how mr. Trump thinks impeachment could impact his reelection opportunities. If hell keep mike pence on the ticket and whether hes prepared to lose the election. This morning oneonone with President Trump. Plus, the democrats as we head into the first debates, joe biden and Pete Buttigieg confront difficult questions on race. Joining me are nbc News White House correspondent kristen welker. William baker, chief correspondent for the new york times. Wall street journalist peggy noonan and lanhee chen of stanford university. Welcome to sunday and a special edition of meet the press. Announcer from nbc news, the longest running show in television history, this is a special edition of meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning. Its safe to say were at one of the prift points of the 2020 election cycle. At the same time, democrats will unofficially hear the starting gun for their nomination fight when 20 candidates face off for two nights of debates this coming week in miami. Even though he wont be there, President Trump will be a dominant presence at those debates. One way or the other, the 2020 election will be a referendum on donald trump. The president will argue hes a successful businessman turned president whos created a strong economy, appointed conservative judges, ended unnecessary regulations and established a sense of strong and, yes, feared america around the world. In short, hell argue hes made America Great again. Democrats will say hes a bigot whos praised neonazis, caged children, lied shamelessly and embarrassed america before the world. In short, theyll argue hes unfit for the office. I sat down with President Trump friday morning phofor an interv that touched on, well, everything. We started with his Decision Just hours earlier to call off a retaliatory strike after iran shot down an unmanned american drone. Mr. President , welcome back to meet the press. Thank you. Let me start right in. What happened last night . Well, you had a situation that was very bad because the night before they shot down an unmanned drone. And the unmanned is a very big factor. The fact there was not a person on it, a u. S. Person on it or anybody. And that had an impact on me. I said, well, you know, we got a little problem. And i think they did it on purpose because they understand that they will be hit very hard if that were a plane with a person in it. And i think they knew that there was nobody there. So, we had a very modest but pretty heavy attack scheduled. And this was a preplan you had. Something that if you did something they were sort of readymade plans. We had many of them. I have so many targets, you wouldnt believe. We have targets all over. Did you green light something or had you said, if we do it, ill do this . What was the order . Nothing is green lighted until the very end because things change. So you never gave a final order . No, no. We had something ready to go, subject to my approval. They came in, they came this about a half hour before and said, were about ready to go. I said, i want a better definition were planes in the air . No, no. They were about ready to go. No, but they would have been pretty soon. Things would have happened to a point where you wouldnt turn back or couldnt turn back. So, they came and they said, sir, were ready to go. Wed like a decision. I said, i want to know something before you go. How many people will be killed . In this case iranians. I said, how many people are going to be killed . Sir, id like to get back to you on that. Great people, these generals. They said came back, said, sir, approximately 150. And i thought about it for a second. I said, you know what, they shot down an unmanned drone, plane, whatever you want to call it, and here we are sitting with 150 dead people that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after i said go ahead. And i didnt like it. I didnt think it was i didnt think it was proportionate. Do you think they were trying to provoke you . No, i dont think so. And it was very important to them dont forget you dont think they intended to get you to respond militarily . Their economy is shattered. Shattered. Whats the their inflation is through the roof. Worse than anyplace theyre living not well. Do you want to do a separate deal with iran or get everybody involved in the same deal, get the russians, chinese. I dont care what kind of a deal. It can be separate or total. Its oneonone talks you and the ayatollah or it doesnt matter to me. Anything to get you to the result, they cannot have a nuclear weapon. Its not about the straits. A lot of people cover it incorrectly. They never mention they cannot have a nuclear weapon. Theyd use it. And theyre not going to have a nuclear weapon. Did you send a message last night . Reuters is reporting you sent a message to the iranians saying, i dont want a war. I want to talk. I did not send that message. Send a message right now to the ayatollah. Its fake news. Send a message right now to the ayatollah. It wouldnt be much different from that message. Which is . Im not looking for war. If there is, it will be object lit rags like youve never seen before. But you cant have a nuclear weapon. You want to talk good otherwise youll have a bad economy for three years. No preconditions . Not as far as im concerned. No preconditions. And youll talk anyway . Here it is. You cannot have nuclear weapons. If you do, you can live in a shattered economy for a long time to come. Do you feel like you were being pushed into military action by any of your advisers . I have two groups of people. I have doves and some hawks. You have some serious hawks. John bolton is an absolute hawk. If it was up to him, he would take on the world at one time. I was against going into iraq. For years and years. Before it ever happened, i was against going into iraqi. I was a private citizen. I was against going into the middle east. Chuck, we spent 7 trillion in the middle east right now. What would candidate trump have said about a president who on his watch had iran shooting down a drone, a venezuela dictator thumbing his nose at you, no results on the border. Let me what would candidate trump say. The border is doing great. Mexico has been fantastic. Theyve been trying to get a deal with mexico for 45 years. For 45 years they couldnt get a deal. I got one in one day. We agreed in one day. Mexico just moved 6,000 people to their southern border. 6,000 troops to their southern border. The border is working out well and the wall is being built. People dont like to talk about it. Well have 400 miles of wall built by the end of next year. Thats hard because the democrats dont want to approve it. We just beat them in a big lawsuit, as you know, in washington and d. C. We just beat them in a big lawsuit doesnt it worry you your border numbers are worse than obamas . No, people are coming up because the economy is good. Obama had a lousy economy. It was a dead economy. Let me show you this chart. You see that chart . Yeah. Its the Unemployment Rate from the peak of the recession. Your economy is great. Im not saying its not great. But this recovery started and in the 28 months youve been president and the last 28 months of obamas presidency, he averaged more new jobs than your first 28. Thats because he started off with such a bad base. Okay. I mean, he hits but is it not chuck, you have to understand, nobody was working. The whole place was a disaster. And i dont ive never take that away but its very easy because when that turned around, they pumped a tremendous amount of money into the economy. He also had a Federal Reserve person who kept the Interest Rates low. I do not. Sounds like you do now. No, no. He raised them far too fast. Your threat to demote him. Do you think thats had an impact . I never threatened to demote him. There was talk you threatened to demote him to the number two spot. I can do that. Thats not a threat . I have the right to do that but i havent said that. What hes done is 50 billion a month in quantitative tightening . Thats ridiculous. He raised Interest Rates too fast. Do you think its going to hurt your reelection . I think the economy is so strong, well bowl through it but im not happy with his actions. No, i dont think hes done a good job. If he didnt raise rates obama had very low rates. Obama was playing with funny money. I wasnt. Im playing with the real stuff. Let me ask you this. Wait, wait. Obama had somebody that kept the rates very low. I have someone that raised the rates very rapidly, too much. He made a mistake. Thats been proven. And yet my economy is phenomenal. We have now the best economy maybe in the history of our country. Just to finish off. When i took over this country, the economy was ready to collapse. You take a look at the numbers. It was ready to collapse. And if i didnt win i just showed you the numbers. It wasnt ready to collapse. You showed me the Unemployment Rate. Take a look at your gdp, optimism, all of the charts when i took over, from election day on, you show me one chart i did well in that too, but im not talking about that. Take a look at the optimism charts, it went from 57 to 92. Youre right. Youre right. Optimism, youre right. Optimism is a big part of success in business. You were always hard on obama. You didnt think he was enough of a cheerleader. He was not a cheerleader. If you could have one doover as president , what would it be . It would be personnel. If it would be one doover, i would not have appointed Jeff Sessions as attorney general. That in your mind yes. Is bill barr your i think hes a very talented you always said, wheres my i had many, many lawyers. Roy was one of them. He was a tough guy. Cut from the same cloth, do you think . Bill barr is equally as tough. Hes a fine man. Hes a fine man. The job hes done is incredible. Hes brought sanity back. I think hes real. I dont think, i know. Hes respected. He loves the department of justice. He saw what was happening. He has done a spectacular job. Now hes in the process of doing something and i stay away from it. I really i stay away from it. But i think he feels that whats happened in this country was a very bad thing and very bad for our country. Thats part one of my interview with President Trump. Since theres a lot to unpack, well unpack it in bitesized chunks. Let me bring in my panel, peggy noonan, kristen welker, peter baker, chief White House Correspondent for the new york times. First takeaway, peter. Youre jousting him in an interesting way. Its interesting hes letting you do this. Most president s wont allow you to push him that way but thats the only way you get him to talk. I think he likes that. I think he does. And i think hes enjoying giving you his case for reelection, as you already outlined, basically. Hes running the economy, despite all the things obama had done wrong. Hes the one who will be tough on iran when obama just gave away the store. The question is whether the results are going to end up being there november 2020. As you said, wall is not built. Border crossings are up. Can he make enough of a case on obamacare. He already made foils. His fed chair can slow down the economy. Democrats hurt him at the border. Jeff sessions, worse mistake he made. Those are people to blame if things arent going right. Let me start there, chuck. He mentioned Jeff Sessions, but he first said personnel. I thought that was notable. Look at how this week evolved. Hes grappling with iran but doesnt have a defense secretary in place. Hasnt had a Permanent Defense secretary for six months. Hes dealing with whats happening at the border, this decision to pull back on his threat of i. Krmplgc. E. Deportad taking aim at Jerome Powell and dangling the possibility of demoting him to the second spot. Youre starting to see him line up the excuses, but it continues to plague him as he makes these critical choices. What did you see there, peggy . All correct. I agree with everything you said but mostly what i saw was he loves this. He les talks. He loves interviewing. Hes loaded for bear. Hes thought out the forrays hes going to take in the future. I thought the most interesting thing he said was, i have doves and i have hawks. Explaining his iran decision this week. I think the American People will be sympathetic to that decision, sympathetic to the declared reasons for it. And sympathetic or supportive of the idea hes thinking about this and hes got a lot of different people and he listens to them and then he makes a decision. Ill tell you, i dont believe he ever would have ordered the strike. The person ive interviewed and known for a long time and his position on this, but he he was reveling in the fact he had everybody confused. This was the classic articulation of trumpian democracy at work. Trumpian diplomacy at work, i mean. You think about it this way. Theres a piece of leverage, that maybe hes created and he doesnt allow people to really know what hes thinkings. And so he may or may not exercise or use that leverage. He uses that to bring his adversary to the table. Youve seen it with north korea. Youve seen it with china. Youve seen it with mexico. Now youre seeing it with iran. And it is in many ways its become entirely predictable. The unpredictable has become predictable. I think youre right. I think if you look at trump from the campaign, you look at the donald trump we know about not wanting to get entangled in the middle east, it was very unlikely he was going to launch that. Was that a confident president or is he trying to show too so much confidence because hes nervous about the economy. He is nervous about iran. He is nervous about the border. Hes nervous about Jeff Sessions, which is code for investigations and mueller. Look, as you said, he Just Announced his reelection. Hes eager to get out in the fight. But theres this insecurity that fuels this cocky kind of persona he likes to project to the public. Theres always been this idea that he hasnt done enough to impress the elites, even at the same time he likes to bash the elites. I think this is part and parcel of his appeal, peggy has written about this, to a lot of americans who out there feel the same way. You guys are looking down on me, but im doing okay here. Why do you treat me this way . Chuck, i wrote this phrase down when you asked him about the economy. He said, were going to bowl through it. I thought that was striking. Ist not sort of the word or the term that you would use if youre feeling really confident about the future prospects of the economy. Thats a grinder comment. Im going to grind my reelection. Exactly. I saw a president at the white house this week and in your interview, internally conflic d conflicted. How to seem tough and not get mired in the middle east. Coming up, more of my President Trump interview. The battle over preexisting conditions and all of those children in migrant camps. Theyre in terrible shape down there, mr. President. Down there in homestead, florida, thats where i grew alarm beeping welcome to our busy world. 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And its about enthat huawei for a long time. Do something. And president obama built the cages. They said i built them. Do two wrongs make a right. Chuck, listen for one second. Spras for president obama, i took over separation. Im the one that put it together. Whats happening are the cartels and all these bad people are using the kids. Theyre its almost like slavery. Lets not punish the kids more. This is the kids are getting punished more. Youre right. And this has been happening long before i got there. What weve done is created weve ended separation. You know, under president obama you had separation. I was one that ended it. Now, i said one thing. When i ended it, i said, heres whats going to happen. More families are going to come up. And thats whats happened. But theyre really coming up for the economics. Once you ended the separation but i ended separation. I