John lennon . John lennon. John lennon was shot and killed tonight in new york city. An unspeakable tragedy. I said, do you realize what you have done here . And he said, i killed myself. He said, im john lennon. People came out here, singing beatles ballads. They just want to try to feel close to a man whom they say touched their lives. Thats how much love people had for john lennon. His music made our good times better. His music made our bad times at least livable. If he hadnt dreamed so beautifully, it wouldnt hurt so much. Here we are, 40 years later, talking about this man and this mans music. My role in society or any artist or poets role so to rye to express what we all feel, not as a preacher, as a leader, but as a reflection of us all. John, he was always a person that was ahead of the curve. His lyrics were always about the truth. I asked him at one point what his secret was for writing great songs. He said, you write the truth and you make it rhyme. It sort of dawned on me that love was the answer when i was younger. First expression of it was a song called the word. Spread the word im thinking of have you heard the word is love seemed like the understood lying theme to the universe or everything that was worthwhile. Who was john lennon . At one time john lennon was probably the most famous rock n roll musician, maybe the most Famous Artist in the world. Growing up, i remember seeing the beatles on ed sullivan and being totally stunned. I want to hold your hand i want to hold your hand i want to hold your hand the beatles, who originated as a small time act out of liverpool have no rivals as the kingpins of the teenage set. John lennon forms and led and was the beatles long with paul mccartney, George Harrison and ringo starr. Here they are. You couldnt live your life through the 60s with the radio on with your friends and not know every beatles song beginning to end. What do you like about the beatles any way. This way they dress and their hair and their looks. They look like girls. They do not. They transforms pop music, pop culture. Beatlemania, the screaming of young woman. Smart one would be john lennon. The cute one was paul mccartney, deep one was George Harrison and cute one number two was ringe starr. Looking back today, using different words, we would say he was the punk guy from the beatles. He was too intellectually good for beatlemania. The skracreaming of adoration sickened him. He was offended they werent listening to the beatles music. In 1964, the ban started a film that made fun of the hysteria of beatlemania, a hard days night. We were involve in the so many things and making things work, making movies, public appearance, performing at shows and traveling the world and doing all that. There was no time to reflect. It was an empty, hollow experience for john. At the peak of his popularity, hes writing and singing a song like help. This is our latest record. They promoted the record on black pool late night out. Help i need somebody not just anybody help kw you know i need someone help help is a cry for help. He was a massive insecurity. No matter how famous he became, no matter how much people showed they loved and adored him, he never felt loved, never felt secure. He felt he wasnt loved as a child because his mother had given him into the care of johe moms older cyster. When johns mother died, john was 16. Years later, he found that pop stardom didnt fill the void. It didnt ease the pain that defined his life. He found meaning and purpose in yoko. Yoko ono was an artist from new york who was living in london at the time. He met yoko first in he would fall in love. He was married already to cynthia. John was married when the beatles started up. His wife had a son named julian. But he would fall in love with japanese artist and already be married, have a kid. Its hard to describe how radical that was in 68. John lennon, he and his girlfriend yoko ono. John cynthia is better than her. That woman said, cynthia is better than her. Thats his wife. Yoko ono is his girlfriend. Yoko ono was a rebel and a troublemaker. He got license from her to be the person hed always wanted to be. The reason that yoko had such an effect on him when they met was yoko said, you can be yourself. You dont have the say yes all the time. You can do what you want. If you want to do real art john thought art was what yoko did, collage, performance art, that kind of thing. Never occurred to john that a song like Norwegian Wood was art. It was art. I wanted a girl or should i say she wanted me gone a long ways from i want to hold your hand to eleanor rigby. What direction are you trying to move your music . Were trying to move forward, and people seem to be trying to hold us back. The beatles had gotten together when they were very young. They had lived intense lives together. For creative reasons and business reasons, these guys started pulling apart. The event is so momentous that his to hatorians may mark the british empire. The beatles are breaking up. Yoko ono was initially vilified by beatles fans. They saw her as stealing away john lennon, but yoko ono did not break up the beatles. The beatles broke up the beatles. Some of the things said about you hasnt been kind. It was depressive the way they have been picking on yoko and saying she was ugly and personal things. But i know she isnt. John left england because the press were attacking yoko so viciously. They went to new york. In new york they got a lot more respect. The 1970s was a time of turmoil in new york. Even with the lack of jobs it was an exciting time and a creative time. New york its a bit like london only more so. Always hitting congas in the park. Hiphop developed, punk rock developed, disco develops. All at the same time. Different parts of the city coming together, bouncing off each other. Yoko had a lot of friends here in new york. Elton john, he was tight with david bowie as well. John loved new york, and new york was america, freedom. People didnt run up the street and bother john and yoko. They wouldnt bother them the way beatlemania kind of fan dom. But he was over the beatles. One time one of the fans said to him, hey, john, when are you going to get the beatles back together . John looked at him and said, when are you going to go back to high school . He was proud of the beatles but that was done and past and Like High School you dont go back, you go forward, you do something else. He was happy to say hello. He loved his fans and loved new yorkers. Some of us had a healthy relationship with him and his music and his celebrity, but there are others that didnt. There are others that felt like they owned him. Can take you to deep, depressive lows. 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All we are saying is give peace a chance everybody thinks that, but john gave people the words to express that. Give peace a chance was an anthem for those who believed in finding an alternative to war. The time has come for action. John was very vocal about his opposition to richard nixon. He made nixons enemies list. Nixon was hellbent on deporting him. And it ruined his life for many years. Almost destroyed his career. He came out of it, miraculously, but it was a huge burden. All of these songs that hes writing, theyre not the most melodic songs. Theyre protest songs. And the public is at best indifferent. The critics hate it. And i think johns really wounded by it. He finds himself in 72 having purged himself, in many ways, of his popularity. It was a very depressing time for him, and he had difficulty dealing with that. John had really become reckless inside their marriage. Yoko sent john away. He went to l. A. For some 18 months. John would call it the lost weekend. While john was in los angeles, it sounded like times were getting pretty wild out there. And wed had some pretty wild times in new york, and i knew that john could get out of hand when he drank a lot. It was keith moon, harry, me, ringo all living together in that house, and we had some moments, folks. But it got a little near the knuckle. And thats when i realized, theres something wrong here. This is crazy, man. He spent several months, really, for the first time in his life, being what he thought of as a sort of carefree bachelor, but actually hating it, really, and pleading with yoko to have him back. So then he went back to yoko. One day i drove up to central park with john and yoko. It turned out that they were going to see the apartment at the dakota for the first time. I think john liked the english gothic castle kind of feeling of the place. You go to the dakota, i dont want to say youre going to an ivory tower, but you are kind of removing yourself. It was one of the most wellknown buildings. It was occupied by all very famous people. Lauren bacall and leonard bernstein, and Roberta Flack and judy garland. The kind of place that people go to who want quiet. The dakota is the dowager queen mother of apartment houses. It started out as the only large building on Central Park West. Gradually the city grew up, but the dakota remained. It remained the most distinctive building in the entire city. We all know that First Impressions count, and First Impression of the dakota is its entrance. A twostory high archway, and beneath it, a very elaborately designed wroughtiron gateway. You dont pass the dakota and think its an ordinary building. Going through times square, id seen some guy selling the new york city tshirts on the sidewalk. And i bought a few, and i bought one and gave it to john. It was the summer of 74 when we were taking pictures on the roof of his apartment. And with the skyline all around us, i said, you still have that tshirt that i gave you last year . And he said, yeah. And i said, well, why dont you put it on then . We took a series of pictures. We never really expected that picture was going to be the one that he would be remembered by so well. He used to go into a coffee shop around the corner on 71st street. And the owner, he introduced him to me once. He says, oh, you know, this is john lennon. He pretty much walked around the neighborhood and lived an open life there. And he wasnt concerned with security or anything. For the very First Time Since the very, very beginning of the beatles, he doesnt have a record contract. Hes free. And so he retreats back into the dakota, he retreats back into family life. He becomes a father. Sean was born on johns birthday on october 9, 1975. He was born on october the 9th, which i was, so were almost like twins. If im feeling depressed, without him even seeing me, he sort of picks up on it. And he starts getting that way. So its like i can no longer afford to have artistic depressions, which usually produced a miserable song, but it was something i could use, you know. Now i have sort of more reason to stay healthy and bright. I can no longer wallow in it. I ran into him. He said, im giving sean swimming lessons at the y across the street. He said, ive been the house husband, you know, and ive never enjoyed life more. And the look of him when i saw him, it was he looked so different. He looked so calm and relaxed. As he would say, he found himself centered for the first time. When i was a producer of channel 7 eyewitness news, we had a reporter named joel siegel. He went to cover the big apple circus to do a story on it. And while he was there, he noticed that in the audience was john lennon just sitting amongst all the ordinary people. And joel went up to him and said, can i ask you a few questions . And very often celebrities say, no, not now. Im with my family. Speak to my agent. And john said sure. How does he like to the circus do you think . How do you like the circus . I see. He cant say a word. Hes got a little bored applauding. Whats your favorite part of the circus . I like the clowns and the little dogs. Would you give it all up to run away and join the circus . Ive already given it up. I havent decided where to run though. After spending five years raising his son, sean, and basically being withdrawn from the business and withdrawn from the pressures of being in public life, john learned a lot about becoming an adult, and learning that a sober life is actually a very rewarding life. He sings about it, right . Watching the wheels. No longer riding on the merrygoround i just had to let it go thats what he learned in those five years from 1975 to 1980. What it was like to have a relationship, what it was like to have a family. By late 1979, he has several songs. Take one of the new one. 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And so that was the kind of experience they could have in new york. I didnt really think about music at all. My guitar was sort of hung up behind the bed literally. And i dont think i took it down for five years. In 1980, the urge to make music hit again. John basically said that it was like suddenly he was possessed. He started hearing songs in his head and he was inspired. Oh, it came over me all of a sudden, love i didnt know what came over me i just suddenly had, if youll pardon the expression, diarrhea of creativity. Yoko encouraged him to travel to bermuda to evoke his creative chops. And travel by boat to bermuda. I sailed from newport to bermuda 2,000 miles, 7 days at sea for my first ocean trip. And it was the most fantastic experience i ever had. A day out, a terrible noreaster hit. The crew was felled. One person after another seasick. The captain just says to me, you want to take over the wheel . I said, do you think that i can . He says, well, youre going to have to because everybody else is throwing up and cant move. Which is an amazing image. I mean, they tie john to the boat so that he doesnt blow out to sea. A couple of the waves had me on my knees. I was just hanging on with my hands on the wheel. I was in a major storm for six hours, driving that boat and keeping it on the course. I had the time of my life screaming sea shanties and shouting at the gods. I felt like a viking. That was an incredible experience, because it wont go away. You cant change your mind. Its like being on stage. Once youre on, theres no getting off. I was tuned in, or whatever, to the cosmos. When he got down to bermuda, he started to write. He recorded demo tapes. Take one of the new one. Yoko, in the meantime, was in new york writing some of her own songs. They would speak by telephone. Should i do it from the beginning . Okay. They would share their songs together. It inspired me completely. As soon as she would sing something to me or play the cassette down the phone, within 10 or 15 minutes, i would suddenly get this song coming to me. Songs just began to fall upon him from the sky. I suddenly had all this material. After not really trying, but not not trying either, for five years. One, two, three. One day i could hear the phone ringing. And i answered the phone, and the voice came on and said, if youre interested in doing something really interesting and different, be at the 33rd street pier where the seaplanes land tomorrow at noon. Click. At the time, i was thinking, i would really love to do something very interesting and mysterious. And ill ride in a seaplane. Sounds like fun, too. The plane took off and flew over and down into where they had a mansion. So i go inside, and yoko said to me, what i tell you now is top secret, and you cant ever tell anyone. John wants to make another record. And he wants you to produce it. She hands me an envelope. It said, for jacks ears only. And the phone rang. And it was john, and he said, listen to the cassettes that are in that envelope. And if you think its crap, we wont even bother. But if you think its good material, lets go into the studio and do it. And i went back, and i listened. And i was amazed. Jack puts together a crack band that can really play. I made phone calls to great musicians tony levin, and Hugh Mccracken, and george small, and andy newmark. I received that phone call, i happened to be on a concert tour in europe. I was excited. I was told not to share it with anyone, and as soon as i hung the telephone up, i went to sound check. I told everybody in the band. I told john that were gonna bring in a wild card. Earl slick. Earl had played with david bowie. I walked in the control room, and john gives me, the oh, its good to see you again. We had worked together once with david bowie on fame. And i didnt remember. So it was a running joke through the recordings. In the middle of nowhere, over the mic hed be going, do you remember me now . The sessions were all fun. Earl didnt know any of the material. First day he came in, i put sheet music on earls stand, and Hugh Mccracken went over and turned his sheet music upside down. It might as well have been space alphabet. Earl couldnt read sheet music, but he sat there and made believe he could. Pretty soon everyone was in hysterics, because he was obviously bluffing. So we were off to a good start with earl. We jammed a lot. We played a lot of beatles songs in between takes sometimes, and if a beatles song came on the radio, everything stopped. And he would tell us the story of how that song was made and what happened that day. His absolute love for the beatles was so obvious to us. In fact he said he loved them, they were his brothers. We worked for a month with top security. 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Im not competing with anything. Im trying to go back and enjoy it as i enjoyed it originally. And its working. Things have changed. Were not adolescents playing rock n roll music. The songs are about where we are now. You know, i went right back to my roots. Its not going back to being beatles john in the 60s. Its being john lennon. In they fall of 1980, while john and yoko were still mixing the album, they released a single, starting over. Its that dialogue between men and women that he and yoko were so intent on expressing. And scott muni came on the radio. And he played starting over. They were so happy hearing it on the radio they started dancing. Its like we both are falling in love again it will be just like starting over its fascinating that you have an artist like john lennon who had so much success that would still get that rush of excitement of hearing their song come through and being played on the radio. He didnt find happiness in front of a crowd of 10,000 people. He found it at home with yoko and sean. And thats the person who emerged in 1980. And lets face the reality ive had the boyhood thing of being the elvis and getting my own spot on the show. I want to be with my best friend. My best friends my wife. Who could ask for anything more . It wasnt the same john lennon that had walked away from it in 75. A totally different john lennon went back to the studio. He said, i dont care if they get it right now. Theyll get it one day. Theyll understand. Few artists have ever been as influential as john lennon. This new album, double fantasy so how does it reflect johns attitude today . They were very happy that the record was out, that people liked it, that people liked them. They really seemed to be starting over. John and i sat on the floor for about two hours. And thats when he was telling me how happy he was about the record was going up the charts and was going to be popular. Wls, john lennon. And then as the sun was coming up, we left the studio, probably 7 30, 8 00 in the morning. And theres some pictures of them standing on the sidewalk on 44th street, which oddly enough was the same place that i had taken pictures the very first night i had met them at the recording studio, at the record plant. And i took some pictures there on the sidewalk. He said, okay, well, well see you later. December 8, 1980, would be the day that would change everything. Its just unfathomable to think its the last day of his life. Part of the next phase of the print campaign is a Rolling Stone cover story. Theres a lot of excitement in the air. Big photo shoot with Annie Leibovitz. Arguably the leading female photographer in rock n roll certainly, but perhaps in popular culture. That portrait, i think is the essence of that relationship. I mean, john naked almost like a newborn wrapped around yoko for security. The ballast thats holding them together. And its a daring, dangerous portrait. And its beautiful. Its just gorgeous. So, the Interview Team that arrived next, after Annie Leibovitz left, was rko radio. Its led by dave sholin. So, we had arrived at the dakota somewhere around noon. The visual of john opening up the door, literally jumping up, leaping into the room and extending his arms like, hey, folks, im here. Im sorry im late. Yes, were on dear. Were on. Hi. Hello. What is it . Oh, its a microphone. Hello, hello. Testing, testing. Hello, dave. How are you . He was just happy. Happy to be alive and happy to think of the years that he had ahead of him with sean and making music and with yoko. And it was bubbling up from him. It was beautiful. And we feel like this is just the start. Double fantasy, this is our, the first album. I know we worked together before we even made albums together before, but we feel like this is the first album. I feel like Nothing Happened before today. Right at the very beginning of the interview, we talked about what john did on a daily basis. Sean was foremost in his mind. My life revolves around sean. And john was the one with sean and making sure that he ate the right food and didnt watch the wrong things on tv and that sort of thing. So, that was really Pretty Amazing to hear. Not what you would have expected. So you made this conscious decision to give yourself to your son, to the relationship. And to learn from him, too. I learned a lot from the child, because theyre not hypocrites, and theyre not phony. One day we sort of lying down on the bed together. And, he just sat up and said, do you know what i want to be when i grow up . I said, no, whats that . And he looked me right in the eye and said, just a daddy. Sean telling him that when he grew up, he wanted to be just a daddy which resonated with john. He caught me off guard though. Just a daddy you mean you dont like it that im going out now, working a lot . He says, right. Because i hadnt been in the studio for five years or whatever, so hes used to me being around all the time. We had spent 3 1 2 hours together at the dakota talking about engulf from muse toke politics. I still believe in love, peace. I still believe in positive thinking when i can do it. Im not always positive, but when i am i try and project it. He had just turned 40. As he said this is like hes opening up a new chapter. That was the mood of the day, and he could not have been more upbeat. And were going into an unknown future, but were still all here. While theres life theres hope. When i hear that play in my head, knowing what happened in the events of that day, it stops me in my tracks. Music playing discover lash paradise. A caring formula and feather soft brush. For voluptuous volume and intense length. Lash paradise. By loreal paris. And ask your doctor about biktarvy. Biktarvy is a complete, onepill, onceaday treatment used for hiv in certain adults. 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And all of a sudden, guess who shows up . John and yoko walk up. Theyre waiting for their limo, and its not there. And theyre a little perturbed. The limo wasnt waiting for them to take them to the studio as it should have been. And so john hung around the curbside for a while. John walked out, he said, where are all my fans . It was a little quiet. Well, there were a few there. There was one character, one of those beatle fans standing on the sidewalk, who was bugging them for an autograph. And this young man came up to john and thrust a copy of the double fantasy album at him without saying anything. And john said, oh, do you want me to sign this . John signs it, john lennon, 1980. Says, is this what you want . Hands it back to him. And as hes signing it, goresh takes this photo of them. Their car hadnt arrived. Ours was there. Dave and his crew offer to give john and yoko a lift to the record plant. Then they got into the limo and went off to the studio with our team. And i stood there on the sidewalk just sort of savoring the moment and remembering the last three hours. And as i did, that same character kept bugging me and kept confronting me did you talk to him . Did you get his autograph . Whatd he say . Did you talk to him . He kept repeating it over and over. And i backed off and he kept coming towards me. There was something wrong with this human being. He said, yokos got this song. Shes got a poem called walking on thin ice. And i think its a hit. And i want to make something out of it. Theyre excited about this new song. John, in fact, has been listening to it nonstop all weekend. He is in love with this tune and ready to get back to work at the studio. It was myself, john, and yoko. We were just having a blast making this track out of a loop which became, walking on thin ice. And then yoko did this great poem that shed spoken word over it with this little song, walking on thin ice i may cry someday he was sure that this song, walking on thin ice, was going to open up a new world for yoko. Yoko said, do you want to go to the stage deli . But john wanted to go back to the dakota building to say goodnight to his son sean before he went to sleep. We finished that night, and we said we were going to come in and master the single the next morning. Both john and yoko were thrilled. They loved the way it came out. It was perfect. It couldnt be any better that night. The future looked great. And so i walked him to the elevator and went home. And somebody was waiting for him there. When they returned, john got out of the car. Yoko walks first, is ahead of him by a few paces, and john follows. And he glances at a fellow in the shadows briefly. And the young man came out of the shadows and called his name. And its the fan from earlier, the one who wordlessly had the autograph signed for him on the cover of double fantasy. Theres a woman in the dakota whose apartments above the courtyard, and she heard the sound of the gunshots wafting through. The seven, eight, ten stories of the dakota courtyard, which amplified the sound. We were just getting ready to leave the precinct to go out, and a radio run came over. Shots fired at 1 west 72nd street. So, we immediately started to proceed towards there. I observed a male laying straight out with his arms outstretched as if he was running and tripped or fell. And there was a woman. She kind of had him straddled and she was in shock. And it was yoko ono. But i couldnt put it together. Then of course i realized it. I looked at tony. I said, tony, this is john lennon. These are real people, not actors, whove got their eczema under control. With less eczema, you can show more skin. So roll up those sleeves. 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It was just this what drives people to put five slugs in a guy . Why didnt i sense that there was something wrong with this person . This was an individual who was very narcissistic, so he sought attention in a very violent way. I said to him, do you realize what you have done here . And he said, i killed myself. He said, im john lennon. My partner and i were parked at 72nd street and amsterdam avenue, and a shot came over of possible shots fired in the vicinity of the dakota. We were the first on the scene. They stepped out of the limousine and they went inside the gate there, and, all of a sudden, i heard five, six shots and that was it. Going across the street, there was a fellow running towards me and he said, officer, be careful. Theres a guy shooting a gun in there. My whole life went in front of me in about four seconds. You know, we have to get in there and stop this thing. It was about a few seconds later Herb Frauenberger and tony palma arrived. We saw bullet holes in the glass, so now we realize this is real. Well, the doorman, jose told me, him the guy in the overcoat. He could have been a banker. But hed probably be the last one youd think is gonna pull out a gun and shoot you. He had a copy of the catcher in the rye. Steve threw him against the wall. He was actually reading the book. He had dropped his gun. He said, im sorry i ruined your night. I says, you ruined my night . I says, do you know you just ruined your whole life . So then he started talking about a big man inside of me and a little man inside of me. Tonight, he said, the little man won the battle. John lennon was shot with a fiveshot. 38 caliber, snubnosed revolver, kind of like an offduty gun we used to carry. Patrolman palma, what happened when you responded to the call . He informed me that somebody had been shot at the scene, and i asked them where he was and they directed me into the office. I ran into the office and there was a man lying on the floor with his wife standing over him. Did you know who it was . Not at that time. He was laying face down, and me and herbie turned him over, and he was bleeding from the mouth. A lot of blood from the chest. At that point, he was still alive. And when i saw his face, i said, i know this guy from some place. But i couldnt put it together. And it was like, all of a sudden, a voice from behind me says, thats john lennon. And then, of course, i realized it. I said, holy smokes, this is john lennon. So tony said, no, thats not john lennon. I looked at tony. I said, tony, this is john lennon. Believe me. They put john in the back of a police car. You just cant stand by and wait for an ambulance. We picked him up, legs and arms, and we carried him, probably 50 yards, maybe. Where was he shot . Right going into the vestibule of the dakota where the cars drive in. We put john in the back of the car face down so that the blood coming out of his lungs wouldnt choke him. He didnt look very good. He got shot at least four times. I closed the door. I said, jimmy, roosevelt as quick as possible. As you can see, hes not in really good shape. And then yoko tried to get in, but, you know, he was laid across the backseat. So i just grabbed her and i says, come on, ill take you in our car. She was in shock. She kept saying, is he going to be all right . I was driving. And herbie, he was trying to calm her down. Im thinking, this is not gonna be good. In 1980, i was the night assistant head nurse in the emergency room at Roosevelt Hospital. I worked the 4 00 to 12 00 shift back in the 70s and 80s. I answered the call and i was only told we were getting a shooting, brought in by police car, 20th precinct. If we would have got on the radio and said who it was, that word would have spread like wildfire. It was a straight shooting, young, healthy, white male. It was kind of routine, i guess. I paged the chief surgical resident. It was dr. Halleran. So i go running down to the e. R. I said, whats going on . And they said, we have a gunshot wound to the chest coming in. So it was the night of december 8, 1980. I was on a motorcycle, i was in central park, and i literally got slammed by taxi. And i ended up in an ambulance that took me to Roosevelt Hospital. So, he was in the hallway, which was not unusual. Because we always had people in the hallway, because it was a small e. R. And i was lying in the hallway when, suddenly, the doors slammed open behind me and someone came running in screaming, we have a gunshot, gunshot in the chest. Its hitting the door right now. And they bring this person, literally into the room that i am lying outside of. We took him to a room that we called our minor o. R. It was set up with all the equipment that we needed to take care of any shooting. 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You pause for a second, but youre still, youre midresuscitation, so you dont stop. Since he was so famous i had to get security, had to block the entrances. I had to notify hospital administration. My wife came into the studio in tears and said, you you have to come up to Roosevelt Hospital. Johns been shot. Shortly after lennon arrives, some friends arrived, including record producer jack douglas, who had been recording with lennon earlier that evening. It just sounded impossible. Please tell someone im here. He is the closest to them. He just left me five minutes ago before he went home. This is his best friend. Its her best friend. She needs somebody right now. And i was in shock. End of story. Im lying there. My eyes are closed. My head hurts. And these two officers come out. And one says to the other, can you believe it . John lennon. I open my eyes and i look up. I said, excuse me, officer, what did you say . And he kept pulling himself up the wall to look in the room. And thats when one of the security guards told me, do you know who this is . And i went, well, mr. Weiss. And they went, hes a reporter. In 1980, i was the Program Producer for channel 7 eyewitness newss 6 00 program. I have to have that piece, all right . As a news producer youre responsible for, you know, deciding what stories go on the air and making sure the stories are accurate. I went, oh, [ bleep ], get him out of this hallway fast. How did he end up in the e. R. That night when any other night would have just been a boring several hour wait in a e. R. . I really wasnt sure that i heard john lennon. And who would believe it anyway . Who would think that lying in the hospital that a person brought in with gunshots to the chest could possibly be a member of the most famous Musical Group in history . He was stalked, followed inside the archway, and shot in a small vestibule by a lone gunman. We gave him his rights. We recovered the weapon, got the names of the witnesses, and made sure we had all our ducks in a row. Was he disheveled . What did he look like . I said before, i believe he was calm. Inside the precinct there were a zillion detectives. He was there on saturday asking about mr. Lennon. He was there on sunday asking about mr. Lennon, and he was there again this afternoon. He was a fan obviously, and i couldnt figure out what would possess him to shoot. What drives people to put five slugs in a guy . I dont know. I cant answer that. Why didnt i know enough to say to the security guard, you shouldnt let him stay here. To this day, i cant get over that. Theres always somebody that wants to take into themselves that fame and that creativity you have. And theres no other way they can do it. And the closest they can come is by consuming you. So i know it sounds a little bloodthirsty. I dont think any professional as a journalist would not feel that they had not done the job to the best of their ability if they didnt do everything they possibly could to get the word out. His reporter instincts went on high. He was a reporter, and thats what reporters do. But he was a plague of my existence that night. So i got up and i was able to hop on one foot. I get all the way down the hallway and this voice says, where you going . And i said, could you please just let me make a phone call . Hands me the phone, and i call channel 7 eyewitness news. And i said, i know i banged my head, but listen to me. I believe john lennon may have been shot. And the assignment editor says to me, i heard a call for an ambulance to 72nd and Central Park West. Thats where the dakota is. I said, thats it. Thats the third piece of the puzzle. Ive heard the name john lennon. Ive seen an asian woman who now im pretty sure is yoko ono. And youre telling me there was a call for an ambulance at 72nd street and Central Park West . Get over here as soon as possible. We worked on him for about 45 minutes. Pulse, blood pressure, he didnt wake up. There was just a pall in the room. Everyone finally was like, oh, okay, this is john lennon. This is it. But at some point, were all in agreement this is done. And i consider that my work wont be finished until im dead and buried, and i hope thats a long, long time. When john talked about death or wishing that he had many, many, many years left to go, being hopeful about that thats the most poignant part of the interview right there, given the outcome of that day. While theres life, theres hope. I hear a shrill womans voice scream, and there is yoko ono sobbing on the arms of record producer david geffen. I get to the phone and i said, ive got confirmation. John lennon is dead. I mean, the shot went out. It was heard around the world within an hour. 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Its not often that someone means so much to so many people. People had grown up with him and with the beatles. The effect was worldwide. A global generation that danced and sang to the music of john lennon mourned his death today. He was a genius. He was a humorist. He had a lot to give. Ive always liked john because he was a rebel. He was one of the originals of this century. No question about it. The loss of lennon, some say, is like the loss aftof a family member. And i dont think john had any idea how important he was to so many people. All over the world today, newspapers and radio and Television Programs gave special sustained coverage to lennons death. And they were playing all the songs off double fantasy around the clock. Thats all you heard was his music. From madrid to moscow the murder was condemned. Polish television tonight reported the details of his murder and so did others in european countries. John lennon after a five year absence had finally released a record. Today here in liverpool, all over europe, londons new record selling out. In the wake of johns murder, the album just shoots to the top of the chart. They have three hit singles. In death, he really had fully achieved the comeback that was in his heart. It wasnt just in the music world. He was there in everything, and he was always a part of peoples lives, and now he never would be again. This is unbelievable how this could happen. Julian, who was a teenager, flew in from england. He arrived alone, and one of the things that yoko asked of me was to get julian outside of the building, away from what was happening, to kind of protect him from public scrutiny and media attention. The truth is, none of us knew how to handle the enormity of what happened. New York City Police have now arrested and charged a suspect in last nights murder of john lennon. Prosecutors described the killing as a calm and rational act of premeditated execution. A man who has been described as deranged or a kook. The kid that shot john lennon was like somebody whose life was not paying off in any way for him, i suppose. And john lennon is a guy whose life paid off in every way. The suspect in custody is identified as 25yearold Mark David Chapman from hawaii. I had heard some news reports where they said that they had caught him. The defendant was arraigned today on a charge of seconddegree murder. And without even seeing a picture, i knew that it was that guy. With lennon at the time of the shooting was his wife, yoko ono. When doctors told her lennon was dead, she cried, tell me it isnt true. Yoko witnessed this appalling moment, an indescribable anguish, and has since not used the killers name, which i think most people would agree with. They had one of the great love stories, i suppose. He thought she was the sun and the moon and the stars. Its very touching, really. John liked to talk to yoko about what things would be like when theyre older. They imagine that theyd return to england and they would live in a little seaside place. And sean would, you know, send them postcards about his Great Adventures and travels. And there they would be as these kind of doting parents possibly even grandparents. Two old codgers living by the seaside. Lennons wife yoko ono said in a statement this afternoon there will be no Funeral Service for her husband. Instead, she will set a time later this week all his friends and fans to pray for his soul. When yoko had to tell sean that his father wasnt coming home, sean said, well, now hes everywhere. And i think that that might have been one of the things that inspired yoko to call for ten minutes of silence anywhere in the world, everywhere in the world, because john was now everywhere and is everywhere. That sunday in central park was truly incredible. We went on the air for an hour, ten minutes of which was the ten minutes of silence, and we had multiple cameras in the park. And the moment came when the only sound you could hear were the helicopters from the news crews. Just seeing the tears, just seeing the sadness or seeing the grief, it was really a testament to just how much this man, john lennon, touched the lives of so many people. Yoko wanted the world to take a minute and breathe and listen to their own heartbeat. It was truly incredible. On the day that he murdered john lennon, the defendant went up to sean, said hello to him, and shook his hand. What kind of person reaches out to the child of the man whom he will later murder . This is art inspired by real stories of People Living with bipolar depression. Emptiness. A hopeless struggle. The lows of bipolar depression can disrupt your life and be hard to manage. Latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. Latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms, and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. Now im feeling connected. Empowered. 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It was a blur. Yoko actually went back in the studio and finished the record that they were working on the night he was killed. When the album was being finished, i went to the dakota and i listened to the playback of the album. Goodbye, goodbye sadness and as we were listening to it, the sun was coming up over central park. Sean woke up and climbed into bed with his mother. It was such a madonna and child kind of moment. I was able to just take my camera and just take a couple of pictures. It happened to be mothers day 1981. Sean was deprived of everything with his father that would come beyond him turning 5 years old. If sean wasnt around, i could have just sort of chucking everything and staying in a hotel and just go to a corner bar every night. Or whatever. I could have been reckless. Each time i felt like being reckless, i thought that i have to just keep the same life that john and i were leading in the same apartment and the same routine, for seans sake. The trial was scheduled to start in june of 1981, six and a half months after the murder. He was going to plead not guilty and use the insanity defense. But he had this thing planned for months. On the day that he murdered john lennon, the defendant went up to sean, said hello to him, and shook his hand. What kind of person reaches out to the child of the man whom he will later murder . And thereafter, he remains at the scene to be apprehended. The fact that he chose to wait at the scene was an indication that he was aware that he had done something that was wrong. So, basically his defense fell apart. He told me that god told him to plead guilty. From abc, this is world news tonight. Convicted of the murder of john lennon, was sentenced to serve 20 years to life in prison. This was an individual who was narcissistic, who thought he was worthy of great attention, so he sought that attention in a very violent way. Quite understandably, the coverage of the man who shot john lennon was everywhere. He killed john lennon for the sole purpose of making himself famous. We should never have given this man the glory of his name being all across the country, all around the world. In many ways, i think that we journalists did a disservice. The man who murdered john lennon 20 years ago gets his first parole hearing today. The new york parole board turned down the man who killed john lennon yesterday. Lennons widow yoko ono wrote a letter to the board urging that he be kept behind bars. Its a state law that he has to come up for parole every two years. Its been turned down every time. John lennons killer was told he will remain behind bars, denied parole now for the 7th time. Denied him parole for the 8th time. The defendant has been denied parole 11 times now. I still cant get over johns death. Im still sort of recuperating from that. Inside theres something that is still sort of just tight. Yoko called me. She wanted me to help her take a picture of the glasses that john was wearing the night he was shot. She took out johns glasses. The glasses are broken and bloodied. And we were both crying, and it was really horrible to see them. When you look at those glasses and you get just a little bit of the actual feeling, its so horrible. Its not just a picture of some bloodied glasses, its a horrible moment brought out in public and stated publicly. She was going to let the world know that she had been widowed by gun violence. And why shouldnt she share that . Why cant she share that . Thats what she saw. The next album that yoko put out was an album called season of glass. Thats where johns eye glasses appear on the cover to make the point. Its letting that image itself do to talking. Its just as powerful now as it was 40 years ago. Its become part of central park in a good way. It didnt turn into the tomb of john lennon. 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Wouldnt want some pigeon standing on jons head. And so yoko created a park for world peace. Beatle john lennon would have been 45 years old today, and today his widow, yoko ono, and new york city officials dedicated a 2 1 2acre site in new york central park. Its a spot that i guess him and yoko used to visit all of the time. Just a few hundred yards from where lennon lived and died. New yorkers honored his memory by naming this patch of parkland Strawberry Fields. After a famous beatles song. Let me take you down because im going to Strawberry Fields yoko worked with somebody at the United Nations to get in touch with the leaders of every country in the world and ask them all to donate something so that the whole world could Grow Together in Strawberry Fields. Its a living monument. Something to be fed and to be nourished and to be cared for. 123 nations donated trees and plants in lennons memory. You know, its got a big plaque there. A beautiful mosaic which was actually a gift from the city of naples. Its that single word imagine. Its a place reminds us of who he was and what he did with his life and the statement that he wanted to make with his art. Lennon, imagine, peace and love. If youre in a plane looking over central park, you look down because of the shape of the roads around that particular spot in central park, it looks like a teardrop. This garden is a result of all of us dreaming together. It is our way of taking a sad song and making it better. Three years ago, i visited there, and there was so many people there, you know. People go to remember. Thats all john lennon wanted was peace. Were serious about the peace bit, you know. If were going to be hounded we may as well say what we have to say about peace and things. Every once in a while, the world gets an artist like that. And, fortunately, we had john lennon to share. And we have his art and his words and his ideas. He was heading toward new entries in the Great American songbook. And were robbed of every moment of that, for however long he would have lived. You cant calculate it. If anyone ever wanted to do something in the memory of john lennon, i would say follow the words of imagine. Imagine all the people imagine all of the People Living life in peace. Living life in peace everybody thinks that, but john gave people the words to express that. Its became an anthem for the world, which transcends barriers of religion and race and seems to have a timeless message. Its hard to hear those songs and not be sad or wistful or angry, to not want more of john. We proudly welcome to the walk of fame, mr. John lennon. I think his spirit and music were very, very significant for a lot of people and still is. I think its important to keep my dads music and his message out there in the consciousness, because its a message that everyone can connect with. 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