Anger and division in this final stretch to november. They dont even know who george floyd is. Acting secretary chad wolf, senator amy klobuchar, and insight and analysis from our powerhouse round table. Good morning, and welcome to this week. Every four years americans come together to make a choice. We expect hardfought campaigns and we expect politicians telling us this is the most important election of our lifetimes, but with the conventions that just played out, we saw something different. Democrats told us if the other side wins, our democracy is over. Republicans said if the other side wins, america is over. Both suggesting an apocalypse if they dont prevail on november 3rd. In the visuals of this weeks Republican Convention, we saw the world as donald trump wants it to be. His name in fireworks over the washington skyline, the White House South Lawn transformed into a celebration of all things trump, and his supporters shoulder to shoulder as if the pandemic had never happened and isnt still killing about 1,000 americans a day. On the streets outside, protesters offered their own visual reminder of the number unmentioned on the south lawn. More than 180,000 americans killed by covid19. When it was over, some of those protests turned ugly. Trump supporters taunted and threatened on their way out, and last night, more violence in portland. Clashes between protesters and Trump Supporters, one person shot dead. Images republicans are sure to point to as a precursor to life after a biden victory, and at the Lincoln Memorial friday, marchers in the footsteps of dr. King called for action to address a subject barely mentioned at the Republican Convention, persistent racial injustice. After yet another black man was shot by a white police officer, jacob blake, shot in the back seven times. The president went almost a full week without commenting, but now says, quote, i dont like the sight of it. Joining me now, acting Homeland Security secretary chad wolf. Mr. Acting secretary, thank you for joining us. Can you give us an update on what exactly happened as you understand it in portland overnight . What happened with the shooting . Who was killed . Well, were still waiting obviously for that investigation to unfold. I do understand that there were a number of counterprotests and countergroups in portland overnight, and i think this points to a larger issue that we have seen in portland for the last three months, and that is local and state officials not allowing Law Enforcement to do their job and really to bring this violent activity night after night after night to a close. So as you see that continue to unfold over the course of three months, youll continue to see violent activity, and weve asked the governor. Weve asked the mayor to step in. They dont have the resources. The president has been very clear on this as you know. We will be happy to provide resources to bring this violence to an end, violence that, again, across the ideological spectrum, left or right. The violence needs to end. So i saw the president was up and tweeting about this before 6 00 a. M. Its clearly front and center on his mind. Is he planning on doing something . Is there consideration of sending in more Law Enforcement even in the defiance of local leaders . I believe all options continue to be on the table specifically as we talk about portland. What weve seen in wisconsin, minnesota and other places is those governors stepping up, calling in the national guard, the state national guard, and in wisconsin, were sending in the department of justice Law Enforcement officers as well. Talking about portland again, they continue to refuse any type of federal assistance to bring that violent activity going on for almost 90 days now. A little over 90 days now to a close. The citizens of portland want this. We need to bring some normalcy back to portland, and again, if the state and local officials wont do it, they need to ask for federal assistance from the government. Do you have a message for those Trump Supporters we saw parading into portland last night . Weve seen images of Trump Supporters seeming to fire paintballs at protesters, pepper spray. Whats your message to those groups . My message to any individual, to any group, if you are going to protest, First Amendment right, please do that peacefully. Once you cross the line to violence, that is whats concerning to the department of Homeland Security. Thats what im focused on, making sure that we bring any type of violence in these cities to a close. I want to turn to kenosha. The world saw those images of Kyle Rittenhouse holding an ar15 walking down the streets of kenosha after he had just allegedly shot and killed two people, shot and wounded another person. Its really nothing no reaction from police. He went right by police. Nobody attempted to apprehend him or anything, and that of course, was just days after what we saw with jacob blake getting shot in the back seven times as he tried to get into his car. Does that despair you, watching the very different treatment of somebody who is white and somebody who is black by Law Enforcement bother you . Again, the circumstances around that are being investigated. Im not going to get in front of that. What i will say is that if the governor had taken action early on after day one, day two of some of that violent activity occurring there, we probably a lot of this could have been avoided. Unfortunately, he acted a little too late. I believe on the third or fourth night of this violence, he has taken a right to action. He has asked for federal Law Enforcement assistance. My message to all these local officials, mayors, governors and the like, if you see this activity, take early action, bring law and order to your streets and we can address and really avoid some of this violent activity that were seeing. But again, Kyle Rittenhouse is there with an ar15 walking down the streets. He has just allegedly shot three people, and the police dont even give him a second look. Do you understand how people react to that . Especially after what had just happened with jacob blake . Absolutely. Again, im not on the streets there, jon. I cant tell you what was going on that evening, that night with police with this individual. That investigation is unfolding. Im going to let that play out before i comment specifically on it, but again, i think what this shows, what this demonstrates is that local officials or governors need to take action early on to address these issues and weve seen that in a couple of different cities and states, is they see violent protests occurring. You take early action, you can address this, and this is what most reasonable americans want. When they turn on their tvs, they dont want to see this violence night after night after night. They want to see their local officials, elected officials taking action. So the president just a short while ago liked a tweet that said, quote, Kyle Rittenhouse is a good example of why i decided to vote for trump. Is the president suggesting that this 17yearold white man who allegedly shot three people is somehow somebody to be celebrated . Jonathan, i havent talked to the president about that. I have not seen that tweet. Ill let the president and the white house comment on that. What im focused on is that were providing the state and local officials the resources to make good decisions. If they dont have the resources to protect their local communities, they reach out to the department of justice, the federal government will provide them help and support. We saw the president at the convention clearly making law and order the centerpiece of his reelection campaign. I want to play something that he said at his last convention four years ago in his acceptance speech there. The attacks on our police and the terrorism of our cities threaten our very way of life. Beginning on january 20th of 2017, safety will be restored. I mean, first of all its striking how its almost exactly the same message at this convention, but did he fail to keep that promise . He said safety would be restored on january 20th of 2017. Absolutely not. What were seeing across cities and across states sorry. Local Law Enforcement, first line of defense. State Law Enforcement, and if both of those fail, then obviously the federal government can step in. We need that request from those state governors. Many of them have requested that, and again, when we go back to portland, we see exactly how not to protect your communities. Its a case study on the wrong way to do this. 90 days of continued violence in that city. It can be stopped very quickly. You need to have some conviction, and you need to bring in Law Enforcement to do their job. After the president s supporters were confronted by protesters thursday night outside the white house, the president in several tweets and statements has suggested that he was going to let me read one of the tweets. He says to mayor bowser, d. C. Mayor bowser should arrest these agitators and thugs. Clean up d. C. Or the federal government will do it for you. Enough. What does he mean the federal government will do it for you . What does he have in mind in d. C. . I think whats absolutely concerning is that individuals leaving an event at the white house cannot simply leave, go to their vehicles or wherever they might be going, that theyre accosted time and time again. So i think their concern there is making sure, again, Law Enforcement do their job, that you can protest peacefully all day long, all night long if you choose to. Once you cross that line of violent activity, Law Enforcement needs to step in. We saw that in early june in d. C. Where federal Law Enforcement came in, and we had a number of rioting and looting occurring and we brought in local Law Enforcement to address that quickly. Thats a case study on how to do this correctly in other cities. I want to turn to your role in the convention. You obviously took part in that naturalization ceremony that was played in a video at the convention. Did you know when you were there for that naturalization ceremony at the white house with the president that it was going to be played that night at the convention . Again, naturalization ceremonies are what the department does. We do hundreds, if not, thousands of them every year. I participated in several of them not only with the president , but with the Vice President. So its absolutely a legitimate role for the department to do. Again, we do them across the nation. I had i did one in denver the day after on wednesday to of this past week, and there was an official event at the white house. It was uploaded to a public youtube channel. Any person, organization or Political Party can pull down that video and do with it as they wish, so again but sir but sir, respectfully, that was not my question. My question was, did you know when you took part in that ceremony it was going to be used that night at the Republican Convention . No. What i knew is again, participating in a naturalization ceremony, we had a number of uscis employees there as they do every naturalization ceremony making sure that ceremony goes off without a hitch. They were giving that oath of allegiance to those individuals there, and again, well continue to do that because thats our mission at the department. Finally, the story that broke over the weekend. The dni, the director of National Intelligence is saying no more inperson briefings to congress including briefings on the critical question of foreign interference in our election. Isnt this a time when there should be more information shared, not less . What is going on here . Absolutely, and i think what the dni specifically said is he was concerned about leaks, classified information. Obviously the director of National Intelligence deals with classified information, providing that information to congress. He has seen i have seen and others have seen that information leaked time and time again, so what he indicated is hell provide that information in those briefings in a finished intelligence product and continue to provide the information they need to do their jobs. On the other side and what the department is focused on is making sure we address any cyberthreats regarding election infrastructure. A lot of the information that the department deals with is unclassified. Well continue to have inperson briefings with congress and staff, and we have two of them set up this week to continue to highlight the work that the department is doing to make sure that we secure that election infrastructure. You have a responsibility for protecting the integrity of this election. Are you seeing evidence, more evidence, new evidence of russian interference . Yeah. What weve, again, seen and the dni put out an assessment this month, not only information about russia, but also china and iran. So these are three nation states that we have been well aware of, have been tracking them for the last four years, putting out a number of disinformation campaigns to sow discourse won the u. S. , not only in 2016, but the 2018 elections. This is nothing new that were looking at. The department is on top of this, working with our interagency partners, the Intelligence Community and the like. Acting secretary of Homeland Security chad wolf, thank you very much for joining us this morning. Great, thank you. Lets turn now to the minnesota senator democrat amy klobuchar. Thank you for joining us, senator klobuchar. Thanks, jonathan. I want to start right where we left off there, the dni saying they are no longer going to brief in person, congress, particularly on this issue of Election Security. They say its about leaks. Your reaction . Its a complete outrage. You heard what the acting secretary just said. He said that Foreign Countries are continuing to try to break into our election. They are trying to influence our elections with disinformation, and this is not where you cut off congress from getting information. Thats what happened in 2016. There wasnt enough information out there. Now we know. Weve learned a lesson, and i think the house is going to have to subpoena the director of intelligence in order to get information which is crazy. We are just a few months out of a major election, and i have already experienced this white house blocking my bipartisan Election Security bill which would have helped us years ago to beef up our efforts. So in the words of speaker pelosi, when it comes to this white house, all roads lead to putin. That is exactly whats going on here, and we have to demand the information to protect our election. I want to turn to what the president said friday when he went to New Hampshire and held a rally after the convention, and he had he talked about the treatment of his supporters as they left the white house on thursday night. Take a listen. These incredible people from all over the country, all over the world that were there last night, they walked out to a bunch of thugs, and that wasnt remember this. That wasnt friendly protesters. So what was your reaction as you saw that . Theres no question that Trump Supporters were intimidated and approached as they left the white house in a rather menacing way. My first reaction is, and i have long condemned looting, violence, threats. Thats not peaceful protest, and i dont care whos engaging in it. You condemn it, and of course, joe biden has clearly condemned it, but lets step back. This isnt just happening in one place. Its happening all over the country. It is happening under Donald Trumps watch. What is going on . We have innocent people like george floyd shot by police. We have what happened in kenosha, and then we have a president that literally stands on the peoples lawn in violation of the hatch act, stands on the lawn with a bunch of pageantry and a bunch of fancy clothes with arias playing from the balcony and says, do you want to be safe . We are not safe in Donald Trumps america. Not only have we seen an increase in hate crimes, not only have we seen increases in crime, but we have seen 3,600 people die durg. Now over 180,000 people that 9 died from this coronavirus, seniors like my dad visiting them bind glass windows as he stands alone with coronavirus in a room. Ill never forget that moment, and he survived that, but so many other peoes parents and grandparents did not. So no, we are not more safe, and i think joe biden has a very strong case to make about the changes he will make to make this country more safer. We have not sehi paul soglin is the former mayor democratic mayor of madison, wisconsin. D voters, quote, are very distraught both with the arnagei officers murdering africanamericans and for th safety of their communities. Thats wt you just hit on. In short, what does biden what does a Biden Harris Administration do to address the violence that we are seeing in American Cities . the first is to make very clear that we condemn violence. We condemn looting and that has i that repeatedly, but the second is solution the solutions are not to divide people. Theyre to bring them together. In minnesota, yes, we had a horrific murder of george floydh that case iseikwxaop we are mending our communities. We are doing all we can to rebuild, but the third piece of this is police reform, and you can be against looting and for police reform. You can be in favor of things like banning chokeholds and having body cams which we didnt have in kenosha. You can be in favor of making sure that disciplinary records go with Police Officers so you knowhat happened, and you can do all othat and still be for good Law Enforcement, and there are so many good Police Officers out there putting their lives on the line every single day. He wedge donald trump sees it as. I see it as something we can do not with the kind of rhetoric we hear from him. The other thing we heard from donald trump and from everybody nvention was suggesting that biden would be a, quote, tjan horse for the far left of the ; democratic party, for the Progressive Left, for Bernie Sanders and aoc. Ur you knpow, Bernie Sanders has been very supportive of the de how influeia Progressive Left going to i, you know, i saw joe bidens beautiful speech where he literally in my daughters words table and said to the american a family, weve got mess. This is whats wrong, and this is how im goi5ng to fix it. I saw our convention as one of unity. Senator sanders words we heartfelt, but it was unity not just within our party. For president , the former governor of ohio standing there proudly supporting at the crossroads, supporting joe you saw numerous republicans come and speak out for joe biden. Unity, and at one point, you of joe biden for being too law and order, then not being enough law and order. Come on. Theyre just going to throw anything, and, you knokellyanne conway. She said this last week. The more chaos and anarchy and vandalism and violence reigns, the better it is. Those are her wo clear choice on whos best on Public Safety and law and order. All right, sena havoc, and what i think that americans especially in the midwest where people work hard, and especially in favor of government thats going to work for them, thre going to want to see joe biden and kamala hais. Ey dont want four more ye of this chaos. Senator klobuchar, thank you very much for joining us on this week. Thanks, jonathan. Up next, this mmer has been marked by nationwide protests unlike anything weve they impact the president ial race . Nate silver is back, and well washington. Well be right back. Erica. Its 5g ultra wideband, and its already available in parts of select cities. Like los ael and in new. And its rolling out in cities around the country. With massive capacity, its like an eight lane highway compared to a two lane dirt road. In fact, its the fastest to5g in the world. From the network more people rely on. 5g bu. Only on verizon. b find a stock basedtech. On your interests or whats trending. Get realtime insights inouof the market. For smar fidelity tums ver bell rings la stick. With tums chewy bites. Tums chewy bites pet walsh people came and they met and they felt comfortable. Its what we did with coogans. You felt safe and, if you were safe, you could be joyful. Everybody has a coogans. And almost half those small do something. 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Op, j bidens lead in National Polls expanded from 6 points to around 9 weeks a couple of weeks later. Furthermore, trumps approval on n consistently poor. 62 of voters disapprove from it in the last gallop poll for example. In fact, while there is some evidence that sport for t protests has been declining in polling before the police sho jacob blake and before the march on washington, that doesnt necessarily mean that gop messaging on them has been effective. In the key state of wisconsin, black lives matter protests declined from 61 in june to 48 disapproval also at 48 . But in the same poll, president trumps approval of the handling the protests was just 32 essentially unchanged from 30 in june. This comes from a long history of Police Brutality, and of course, any reaction can trigger a counterreaction,ut backlash e into a backlash against him instead. Our thanks to nate. 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After a summer of racial unrest sparked by the Police Killings of unarmed black people, tens of thousands gathered at the Lincoln Memorial demanding justice and change, channeling the same energy as civil rights leaders decades ago. Our rachel scott was there. Reporter they came by bus. Some on foot. No justice, no peace. Reporter a new generation of marchers lining up before sunrise, sharing the anger and hope of those who marched before them 57 years ago. [ chanting ] it was on those marble steps of the Lincoln Memorial in 1963 where Martin Luther king jr. Dreamt aloud of an america freea Young John Lewis told a nation to wake up. We do not want our freedom later, but we want to be free now. Reporter that fight persists. In the sea of thousands, Alison Williams clenches a sign saying good trouble. The spirit of john lewis is here today. Oh, yes. Its definitely here. Were just so excited to be here, to live out his legacy. Im watching the tears swell in your eyes. This is very personal. Yes. I have a son. I had to give him that talk. I had to sit him down to tell him what to do in case he gets stopped. Hes been stopped multiple times and every day i pray god will put protection around him. Reporter for a group of 60, the journey would take 24 days. They walked nearly 800 miles from milwaukee, wisconsin to washington, in hopes the nation would take a step forward too. Were actually in a worser position now than we have ever been in america. Were all still dreaming. Were waiting for something to happen. Reporter this march is a call to action. Their goal is to turn this outrage into lasting reform, and to keep on marching to the ballot box on election day. [ chanting ] reporter the march on washington capping off a summer of racial unrest. Bookending two weeks of political conventions. Pass those bills. Were not going to stop. He thinks they can have that little convention. He thinks they can have that little firework. No. Were going to keep fighting. Reporter thousands standing united in the sweltering heat, overcome with emotion, carrying signs with the names of black lives lost. [ chanting ] say her name. Reporter one by one, their families spoke. Five days after jacob blake was shot by police in front of his children, his sister speaking out. America, your reality is not real. Catering to your delusions is no longer an option. Reporter its the question john lewis asked here in 1963 that has waited 57 years for an answer. Where is the Political Party that will make it unnecessary to march on washington . Well, mr. Trump, look right down the block from the white house. Weve come to washington by the thousands. Well never let america forget what youve done. Call their names. And rachel joins us now. Rachel, you were on the streets in the days after the George Floyd Killing in may, and you have been er since. Have you seen this movement evolve or change in the last few months . Reporter jon, the calls for Racial Justice have really gained a new level of urgency following the shooting of jacob blake in wisconsin, but the decision to march here on washington came after the outrage over the death of george floyd, and demonstrators that i spok mall say the story of george floyd, the story of jacob blake has really been the story of black americans in this country for centuries. So they want this to be a moment of action, to be a moment of change. They were marching to put pressure on congress to pass police reform, and they say doing these demonstrations without getting any legislation passed is not going to move the country forward, jon. Thank you, rachel. The round table is up next. Well be back in 60 seconds. S up next. Well be back in 60 seconds. The current president s cloaked america in darkness for far too long. If you entrust me with the presidency, i will draw on the best of us, not the worst. I will be an ally of the light, not the da we will rekindle new faith i history because we understand that america is not a land cloaked in darkness. America is the torch that enlightens the entire world. President trump and Vice President biden making their acceptance speeches. Lets break it all down with the round table. Former chicago mayor and obama chief of staff rahm emanuel, sarah isgur, democratic strategist karen finney, also a cnn political analyst, and former new jersey governor chris christie. Governor christie, i want to start with you. We have a brandnew poll out this morning. Our first postconvention poll, ipsos abc news and it shows that the president s Approval Rating rating has not changed at all postconvention. Vl take a look. He has a 31 favorable rating, 31 , 59 unfavorable, basically where it was before the convention. Did he why didnt he get a bounce out of this convention . Rahm, were having some technical difficulties. Let me ask you that question. Let me do this for chris, okay . Speaking for chris christie. I have been waiting for this for a long time. Heres what i think is interesting is not only did joe biden improve his likability, his Approval Ratings and also drop in his negative, donald trump didnt do anything. So all this effort is somehow painting a picture of an empathetic, high quality person who cares about people and has this image actually that was not only wasted. It ran counter to 3 1 2 years of very fixed impressions, and i think this is basically those four days that were not days well spent, and the real reason also is it has this basically zigzag. One moment youre supposed to say, forget the 3 1 2 years of impressions. This man is a cuddly teddy bear, and then the second thing was all this darkness he was prevailing on was going to happen, and people realized, this is Donald Trumps america. This is not some america in the distant future. It is here, it is now, and they see joe biden as someone who can fix it. Another thing we saw inur poll is nearly half the country said they didnt Pay Attention to either convention at all, but sarah, with a 31 favorable rating, less than a third of the country seeing you favorably, can you win reelection . Think back to 2016. He was the least liked kend candidate running in the United States against the second least liked candidate in the United States, and he won. Look at what their metrics for success were. There were no questions the Biden Campaign went in to increase his favorability, to increase enthusiasm against his supporters or wobbliers. I dont think that was trumps metric of success. I think it was about increasing those economy numbers. Hes 10 points up on biden on the economy, and i think he wanted to move those, and i think he wanted to scare those wobbly republicans who had been shifting away, maybe werent going to vote into saying, look what happens if that guy wins. Governor christie, youre back, right . I am. Okay. Im deeply disturbed that rahm was speaking for me. Trust me. I didnt like it any more than you did. I mean, what does he have to do . Let me ask you the same question i asked sarah. Hes got these really anemic favorability numbers. I think worse than he had four years ago, and biden doesnt have the negatives that Hillary Clinton had. Does he need to do something, and if the convention didnt do it, how does he do it . First of all, the convention was not a traditional convention. The viewership numbers were way down, and the fact is no one got a bump out of this convention, not joe biden and not donald trump, but what the president needs to do is continue to do what he started to do on thursday night which is to not draw a contrast on personalities, but draw a contrast on issues, and he started to do that i think very effectively on thursday night. Youre right, joe biden does not have the personal negatives that Hillary Clinton had, but he also doesnt have near the level of enthusiasm about him that Hillary Clinton had, and nowhere near the level of enthusiasm that the president has, and so the question becomes how does the president draw this into a binary race between his vision of america and joe bidens vision of america . If he does that, i guarantee you, jon, this will beed to do night. He has to do it even more over the next 65 days. Karen, do you think biden needs to be out there more . Were hearing now we just heard from kate bedingfield, the Campaign Manager that he is getting out this week. He basically left the stage to the republicans for a full week. Well, i dont think i agree with that. I mean, the republicans did themselves quite a bit of damage throughout this week with all their lies. I have a different take on what we really know at the end of two weeks. What we know as we look at whats happening in kenosha, wisconsin is a white 17yearold with an ar15 long gun approached police and was brushed off as he shot two people. And a black man with a cop holding him by the scruff of the shirt was shot seven times in the back while his three children watched. Those are the two visions of america. Donald trump is trying to make this about who wants to stop violence. Black people want to stop violence. We have been living in violence since the beginning of this country. Hes trying to make this about anarchy in the streets, but hes the president. Hes trying to blame joe biden when he is the president. Why should joe biden be responsible for trumps failures . And all of this is a distraction from the complete incompetence, frankly, of donald trump as more than 180,000 americans are dead from coronavirus, and were learning very troubling things about the idea of the cdc suggesting that we test less and so we will get less results, so well know less whats going on. Thats really what democrats have to do, and what biden has to do. Dont let donald trump take us off focus on what this election is really about, his incompetence, the danger that he himself creates. Him going to kenosha, wisconsin is like driving a mack truck full of gas into a fire. That contrast of that imagery the contest of that imagery, comparing that to anything joe biden does is going to remind americans that joe biden is a good, decent human being with a real plan to quell the violence in our streets, to do real policing reform, to move our country forward, and donald trump is a just full of chaos and anger and bile. Thats what were seeing in the outcome of these two conventions moving forward. Rahm . Two points her i would say is, look. The president is going to kenosha, wisconsin. Does anybody think for a momt hes bringing calm or chaos and conflict . And his version of american politics is his version of hunger games. Literally pitting american against american, and biden has americans are exhausted of this constant conflict that actually, if you look at all the data, they see the president as exacerbating. May not be the source of it, but clearly not the solution either. Second i would say i want to bring up something governor christie brought up. The fact is the president missed a major opportunity. He doesnt mention jobs or health care, or doesnt mention a single issue, and im not even sure its in english, and i think biden has laid out not only four weeks straight of issues of rebuilding america, what hes going to do on health care, what hes going to do on all these efforts and they have not only improved in the battleground states, but the advertising is specific on what hes going to do issuewise, and i think the campaign is going to continue to do and draw on the Biden Campaign. It doesnt say anything about the second term, and what joe biden is going to do very specifically on jobs, on health care, on the environment, on climate change, to bring america and move it forward as one country, and that contrast of unity as well as a specific plan is going to be joe bidens ace. Governor christie, why does the president have a hard time saying what hes going to do in a second term . Well, this is i just disagree with the premise as of thursday night, jon. He laid out very specifically near the end of that speech the things that he wanted to do in his second term, and listen. I encourage i agree with rahm on this. I encourage joe biden to go out, get out of the basement in wilmington, you know, he says if you put a mask on, everything will be fine. I agree with him. Put a mask on and go out and articulate to the american peoplet n is. I think if he does that, one of two things is going to happen. Either the left wing of his party is going to revolt because joe biden is not saying medicare for all. Hes not talking about green new deal. Joe biden is not talking about huge increases in taxes or the center of his party, and independents are going to be very concerned because joe biden is going to have shifted even further left than he has shifted already. Theres an opportunity here for the president to make joe biden go out and speak, and believe me, if thats what hes going to do over the next 65 days, this race is going to get closer every day. Sarah, the president spoke o an hour in his convention speech. Some people said he lacked some of the energy, but you made a point about what that signified, the fact that he was the speech might not have been tightly focused, but he s disciplined. He kept to the script. It was the main thing i was looking for on thursday is what were we going to get, Campaign Rally donald trump who gets the headlines and gets the viewers, or disciplined dal shows his voters that hes got this, that hes not the twitter maniac that some people fear by the time he got to New Hampshire, it all fell apart. That weve seen over and over again, but, you know, we have had poll after poll, and there are not as many undecided voters. And thats what rahm was saying. This is a referendum on that right now. 96 decided that three times fewer than we had in october of 2016. He weninto that speech talking to his voters, trying to get toe people who were, like, i just dont know if i can do donald trump for four more years, but im not voting for joe biden no matter what. I may stay home or vote third party. He was talking to them and saying, look. I can stay on script. I can do this. I can deliver a speech and im not a maniac. They tried to do this, to make Bernie Sanders his running mate and not Kamala Harris. It failed. The first week, they spent a whole bunch of time trying to tear up Kamala Harris. Not only did it not work, it backfired, and they tried to spend their convention saying joe campaign would be a joe biden Bernie Sanderse ticke. Thats not going to work. Joe biden has higher approval, lower negave their problem because its inverse to where the president stands in approval and disapproval. Karen . And i would add going to something governor christie said, the enthusiasm for this ticket particularly with the addition of Kamala Harris has been exciting. I mean, you have they raised 48 million in, what . 24 hours. The energy and enthusiasm is there. The point was youre trying to put out make your case. Donald trump knows his base very well. He gave them what he thinks they needed to see, but the most important thing we have to remember is conventions do not decide elections. It is a lifetime between now and november, and we dont know theres so many unknowns between now and november. I think for donald trump, okay. So he can do one speech on a teleprompter. That is not a president ial record that he needs to defend make. He did not defend his record. Instead, they had to completely ignore, as i mentioned, is happening in the country, and the problem with donald trump is we know him. We know four years of his record, and also we know in our everyday lives what hes telling us is not true. So that discordance is part of why people are moving away from him, and again, the question is can democrats continue to move towards joe biden . I think they can, in part, because joe biden does have a plan. In fact, he has been out there talking about issues. He now has Kamala Harris. She is also talking about a plan, people are facing right now like what is happening in kenosha, wisconsin where people are you have a mother crying out for justice. Where is the president . He could be doing something right now. Hes not doing anything, and i think people, you know, sort of the mask is off, and people see it, and so but remembering that again, long time between now and the election itself. Wow. Go ahead. When does this end . You know, if joe biden if theres such enthusiasm and popularity for joe biden, why isnt he out there stoking that enthusiasm . Hes hiding in his basement in wilmington. Hes unwilling to campaign. Oh, stop. Where do we hear this from, and, you know, the president gets criticized for going to kenosha, and then karen says, where is the president on kenosha . If joe biden wants to make this race about the covid crisis, then what he should do is call these democratic governors in wisconsin, in oregon, the local democratic mayors and tell them to do their job, and have Law Enforcement do their job and stop the rioting in the streets. He hasnt been talking about it. He has been i want to say heres what i would say rahm. Heres what i would say very clearly. During the republican one, joe biden stayed specific to the issues. Two, very clearly, during the Republican Convention, the equivalent of what happened in 9 11, thats how Many Americans weve lost, and remind people in those four days, weve lost the equivalent of americans on 9 11 and bring it back to the core issue of who has a pla thank you to our round table. Before we go, we saw a lot of speeches over the last two weeks. Dozens of them delivered on the biggest stages in politics, but to me, the most compelling was from jacob blakes mother julia jackson. We leave you with her words. Clearlynow that i have beautiful brown skin, but take a look at your hand and whatever shade it is, it is beautiful as well. How re we hate what we are . We are human. God did not make one type of tree or flower or fish or grass or rock. How dare you ask him to make one type of human that looks just like you . Im not talking to just caucasian people. I am talking to everyone. Reite, black, japanese, chinese, no one is superior to the other. The only supreme being is god himself. Please lets begin to pray for healing for our nation. Julia jackson in kenosha. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you for sharing part of your sunday with us and have a good day. Up next,s and astros now postponed after a member of the organization tested positive for covid19. 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