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KGO 2020 July 13, 2024

Children. Mb wsomebody was dumping the victims. Youre not going believe this. Were dealing with a serial killer. I was like, oh, my god. This is it. This is it. We knew that this man went by four different names. The chameleon. My father, hes a serial killer. Thats the first time ive said that. Test, test. Check check check. In the middle of New Hampshire, theres this state park, bear brook state park. Its huge. Its covered in thick forests. Its full of nooks and crannies to get lost in. Its the type of place where you can find some of the last remaining rattlesnakes in new england. Where kids play hide and seek on four wheelers. And where, in 1985, a horrible discovery was made. 10,000 acres means we do have over 40 miles of trails. Its a very large park, and theres parts of the park that people do not explore or get out to. I would think that anyone without a familiarity with the park wouldnt want to go wandering very far into the woods. Theres just a lot of undeveloped area out there. Theres just nothing but woods. If someone wanted to hide a body, that would unfortunately be the place to do it. If you tried to write this as a fictional story, i dont i think people would say its too unbelievable. What began as one story for me turned into like four that spanned the country, spanned 30 or 40 years, and all connected in a way that couldnt be believed at first. W gardens in allenstown, New Hampshire. Its a small trailer park of maybe a hundred trailers, which is surrounded by bear brook state park. When we were kids, we created a game that was basically hide and seek with a four wheeler. You would just ride the four wheeler around looking for the kids that were hiding in the woods. We did it pretty much all summer long. Once i was approached by one of the kids in the group that he had come upon a barrel out in the middle of the woods, which was off the trail. We drove up that trail, off the trail a little bit. We found a barrel standing up. It was just odd that the barrel was out there. It was a slightly rusted, dark blue barrel. Its a blue 55gallon steel drum. Its just kind of sitting out in the woods. The brother that found the barrel went over to it and tried to lift the top of the barrel. And when he did that, we were hit with a smell that was absolutely putrid. One of the brothers just pushed the barrel over. And we watched the barrel fall on its side. I do recall seeing a little bit of, like, gray whitish fluid ooze out of the bottom of the barrel, which i thought at the time at 11 years old was rotting milk. The guys jumped on my fourwheeler and we booted out of there, and that was the last time that we saw the barrel. Several months after the kids have kicked it over, a Police Officer gets a call about a hunter. I was working the day shift. It was overcast, cold. And i received a call from dispatch to meet a hunter in the bear brook gardens mobile home park. He was very, very white, very pale. And he said to me, theres a barrel up in the woods, and i think theres some bones in there. So i told him to stay by my pa patrol car. And he heads into the woods, pretty skeptical that there is anything amiss. And i walked approximately 300 yards. I could see the barrel. It was laying on its side, and as i got closer, i saw that something was had fallen out of the barrel. It looked like a plastic rug, and it was all rolled up. I kneeled down, and i opened up the plastic. As i open the bag, the face is looking right at me. I said to myself, this is not good. So i said to dispatch, 51. Be advised i have a 1050. And she said, could you are a pete that . They alerted the state authorities, the attorney generals office, state police, and it sort of set in motion an investigation. The bodies were found not far from this sandpit just behind the bear brook gardens mobile home park. Two decomposed bodies were found inside, what appeared to be an adult female and then a younger female child. They have been able to determine that both victims were female, one an adult in her early 20s to early 30s. The other a young girl between the ages of 8 and 10. There is no identification, theres no purse. Theres nothing inside the barrel. And the victims had been wrapped in material, principally garbage bags, and there was some electrical wire that had been wrapped around the remains. Both of those victims died from a blunt object striking their heads and crushing their skulls. Usually means that the killer is up close and right next to the victims. If i knew who the victim was, because everybody knew everybody in town, i could Start Connecting the dots. When you dont know who the person is, when you dont know who the victim is, it makes it a hell of a lot harder to solve the crime. In New Hampshire, we have very few murders that involve complete strangers. Most of the murders occur amongst people who know each other. A close family member, maybe a friend, maybe a coworker. The next day i cold canvassed the town. I went to approximately 200 residences, asking, notice anything different . Anybody missing . Maybe a mother, child. Nobody knew nothing, and that was odd, because the population was 5,000. Everybody knew everything in that town. The hope was that there would be a missing persons case from somewhere that matched the description of a family unit. It is going to take a great deal of time for them to be identified. We have run them through all of the computers, both at the state level and from washington d. C. , andl they are simply not in that computer. Who are these victims . Are they local people, or are they from a distance away . Maybe a truck driver from canada came down and was looking for a spot to dump his victims. Was it somebody who was passing through . A tourist, Something Like that . Somewhere, somehow, somebody must know, you know, who these people are. We have a mother and a young child. Its like, just didnt disappear off the face of the earth without a name or an identity. Two years after the barrel was discovered, authorities released their remains so that they could be buried. These victims deserved the dignity of having a proper burial. Were gonna give them a proper burial. Chief connor arranged for the church to give him a plot in the cemetery. A local gravestone company donated a headstone. The headstone did not have names. Theres an inscription to the fact that they were found in 1985. It reads, here lies the mortal remains known only to god of a woman aged 23 to 33 and a girl child aged 8 to 10. Their slain bodies were found on november 10th, 1985, in bear brook state park. May their souls find peace in gods loving care. And with the burial of the two victims, that was kind of it. 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She was about 5 years old. He was living as the kind of fixitup guy, handyman guy at this park. And he had a camper on a pickup truck that he was living in with lisa. She was little, so she was like always running around the campground, playing with other kids, you know, bike riding. He ends up befriending a couple, katherine and richard decker. The deckers are there temporarily for a few months. They begin to talk to Gordon Jensen a little bit more, get to know him a bit more, and he starts to sort of confide in them. He says that hes having a really hard time raising lisa on his own. The deckers sensed something was wrong. They heard lisa crying at night. Her clothes werent in the best shape. She looks a little thin. She looks a little dirty. He tells various stories about what happened to her mother. I think maybe she died of cancer, he said. Another story was they were in a restaurant, it was robbed, she panicked, ran out in the street and got run over in the traffic. He actually broke down and cried, and he was incredibly convincing about his grief and about him wanting lisa to have a better life. And mrs. Decker told him, youre so lucky. Shes so beautiful, and cutie pie. And the couple starts thinking, well, we have a daughter who has wanted a little girl for a really long time, maybe something could happen. Gordon jenson eventually presented the idea of them taking lisa on a trial adoption basis. And so they take lisa down with them down to Southern California where their daughter lives and have a twoweek trial period. An attorney basically told them, have him sign here, here, here, have that notarized. And well file it in the court. And then she could be yours. Your daughter can adopt her. Once the deckers take lisa with them down to Southern California, she starts to show signs that shes been a victim of abuse. And the deckers contacted the authorities and she was interviewed. She was just an innocent child. She was just an innocent child. It breaks your heart to see a child like that be traumatized by an adult. And they reach out to try to contact Gordon Jenson back at this rv park, presumably, in the hopes that they cod t this adoption legalized so that they could keep her away from him. But when they call back to the rv park, he is gone. Hes vanished. When they went back up to have him sign the papers, hed quit his job and left, was gone. He was nowhere to be found. The next day, i started meeting folks at the mobile home park, trying to find out where he was. Theres no Gordon Jenson. You know, theres nothing. We just knew that we had a guy and he abandoned the kid. Thats all we had. The San Bernardino detectives talked to the owner and proprietor of the business and actually asked him, is there anything in here that only that guy touched . And he goes, yeah, he went out to the store. I gave him money and he bought that you know, the vcr Surveillance System for the campground. We went in the game room. He said, he installed all this stuff in here. I said, i wonder if hes got some prints on that panel. We took the first plate off. And sure enough it was wiped clean. You could see where he had taken a cloth and wiped on the inside. We took the second plate off, and lo and behold, on the inside of that second plate, there were eight fingers. We hit the jackpot. Once we got those fingerprints back, it came back to another name Curtis Kimball. Curtis kimball. Curtis kimball. Gordon jenson is Curtis Kimball. It turned out that he had been in a drunk driving accident with lisa in the car in Orange County in the mid80s. Once he made bail, he immediately absconded. And then two years after he flees the rv park, Curtis Kimball is pulled over driving a stolen vehicle. When hes arrested, he gives the name Gerald Mockerman along with a matching Social Security number and date of birth. Fingerprinting confirms that he is the same guy Curtis Kimball, Gerald Mockerman, Gordon Jenson. And at that point hes taken into custody for the charges of child abandonment. He served a year and a half in prison and was released on parole. The day he was released on parole, he fled and became a fugitive. And its going to be almost ten years before police see him again. And because her father had absconded and purportedly the mother was deceased, the deckers couldnt keep her, and she went into child protective services. It was heartbreaking for the deckers. Shed really become a part of their family. Theyd become close. Very close. I think it mustve been hard for the deckers to rescue lisa from this horrible situation only to then have to turn around and give her away again. I went to her home, picked the child up, and took her into protective custody. No one realizes it yet, but the story of lisa is going to be the beginning of so many things. Its going to be the beginning of forensic genealogy as a technique. 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Police had a few initial theories, but they really didnt pan out. No one in the community seemed to know anything about who these people might have been. No one seemed to be missing. Who are you . Who are the victims . And whos responsible for this . Tips would come in or people would have ideas. Youd exploit those until they just simply ended, and then the case would essentially go back on the shelf again. No one has been able to identify the bodies. The mystery bothers residents today. Its cold. This is the definition of a cold case. That changes in the year 2000. A state trooper by the name of john cody is sort of informally assigned the allenstown case to look into. The first thing that i did was actually go to the evidence repository to see exactly what the barrel looked like. The barrel was dark in color on the inside and rusted on the outside. It was very surreal that a mother and daughter were actually inside the barrel itself, disposed of like common trash. 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