John robinson had a schtick that he useda wealthy businessm take care of you. He made believe she would have a trip of a lifetime, when the reality was she was in a barrel on his farm. Dead. 19yearold lisa stacey and her 5yearold daughter have been missing for 15 years now. Where is she . And then the baby, what happened to the baby . Miraculously, shes alive. For the first time, were hearing from baby tiffany. Shes never spoken out before. Its highly likely you were there when john murdered your mother. Kansas city, right here in, the midwest, is right in the middle between kansas and missouri. Theres kansas city, kansas, kansas city, missouri. Kansas citys kind of a formerly wild town during the prohibition era. It was kind of the beginning of the west. People maybe have an image in their head of cowboys and cattle rustling, but its a, its a big city. The home of harry truman. Barbecue and, and jazz. The first inkling i had of it was id heard that theyd found some bodies in Johnson County, kansas. I just sat straight up in bed. I got goose bumps. And somebody said, well, weve got a body or two in linn county. The energy in the newsroom suddenly jumped. Its one of the biggest stories of the year. It could not have been bigger in kansas city, it was shocking. Pretty soon they said, well, theyre in barrels. Police pulled about three 55gallon drums out a couple hours ago. We do not know where they were murdered. We do not know when they were murdered. And we do not know how long they have been in the barrels. It was like a stephen king novel in real life. The bodies were scattered between the two states, and they were in barrels. There was such horror and grotesqueness. My gosh, thats pretty evil. Pretty evil. A suspect is being held in the Johnson County jail. Hes identified as john e. Robinson. And i said, okay, put that puppy on page one. Robinson is a suspected serial killer who investigators believe may have victims dating back to 1984. This was like the nightmare that kansas city didnt know they had. There were bodies, but no one knew they were there. He had hidden them. Robinsons connected to all these missing women. Including 19yearold lisa stasi. All these women start disappearing that are involved with John Robinson. But then theres lisa stasi, and its a whole different story because she has this 4monthold baby that vanishes. Lisa stasi and her baby, tiffany. Tiffany and her mother lisa disappeared in 1985 shortly after meeting john e. Robinson. 19yearold lisa stasi and her daughter tiffany have been missing for more than 15 years now. You think every day, where is lisa stasi . Then, theres the baby. What happened to the baby . I think everyone thats associated with this investigation wants to know if Tiffany Stasi is still out there, if shes still alive, and if so, where . We had several tips that came in after the arrest. As far as number of leads, im sure were well over 300. The big tip about tiffany was a huge tip. Few people dared hope that either mother or child was still alive until this summer when police made a staggering discovery. Now there are indications tiffany could be alive and nearly 16 years old. Stasis daughter was still alive. I thought i was stunned when i heard about the bodies in the barrels, but my head spun. This is primetime thursday. Chris cuomo tells a tale full of twists, turns, and tantalizing clues. No case is more haunting than the mother and baby who vanished together long ago. Good afternoon. Well go ahead and get started that it has been confirmed and were very comfortable with the fact that this girl is Tiffany Stasi. My sister called me. She always says, kat, get ready. Thats what she said. She goes, ive got some news for you. They think they found tiffany. Its all, its in the paper. What would you like to say . That im very, very happy today that i know finally that my niece, tiffany as we know her, is alive. We prayed to god and god showed us. Our prayers made it possible for them to find tiffany. And i remember the day that it began to ripple through the newsroom at the star that this kid, this child was still alive, and it was like you could see the shockwave going through the newsroom. And all this death and blood and everything. And then, suddenly, miraculously, this girl exists. Shes alive. It was very hopeful, there was a survivor and it was a child. The body of lisa stasi has never been found, as most of you probably know. Tiffany stacey was purportedly adopted by a midwestern family in january of 1985, where she remains today. The infant the stasi family knew as tiffany is now almost 16 years old, living somewhere in the midwest with her adoptive family. The family has asked us to read a statement, a short statement. And its as follows. Our deepest sympathy goes out to the other families victimized by the events unfolding in the case involving John Robinson. We too have been betrayed by this man. You mentioned the body of lisa stasi has never been found. Do you have any expectation that it ever will be . Who knows . Do you know how she is doing, this young woman whos 15 right now . Our understanding is that, as you could probably expect, shes having a difficult time with this, and is struggling with the horror of this whole thing. Theres enough drama in teenage girls lives to begin with, but to face Something Like that must have been incredible. Some of the Media Outlets have already shown some age progression photos. Of what she may look like now. Can you tell us if those are accurate depictions . Thats an easy one for me to answer because ive never seen the girl. In 20 years since this incredible story first broke, this baby tiffany that was found alive has never spoken until now. 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Youre breathing on me if you want to save fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. Lets go to the cemetery dead bodies found on his linn county, kansas, farm. 19yearold lisa stasi and her daughter tiffany, theyve been missing since 1985. Johnson county prosecutor Paul Morrison says the midwest family who thought they legally adopted this little girl, Tiffany Stasi, 15 years ago was duped, allegedly by john e. Robinson. What do you want to find out about your biological mom . I want to find out where she is. I want to know who she was. I know nothing of my mother. Thats haunted me my entire life. Do you believe you will find out . Yeah. I know i will. Ill find her. Todays itinerary is, right now, im awake and conscious and getting some caffeine into me. We are then proceeding to ohare, where were going to land in kansas city. The first step on heathers journey was going back to where the story began, kansas city. Where her mother was born, where her mother was killed, and where a lot of these answers hopefully were for her. I really hope that we can find, at least, the location of lisa, where he put her. At least, i think for heather to be able to say goodbye. Thanks again for flying with us, hope you enjoy your stay in kansas city. We are here to meet Paul Morrison, who was the District Attorney who tried against john here in kansas. Hi, its very nice to meet you finally. Very nice to meet you. Do you think in your experience ill find where she is if i keep pursuing it . Maybe. Stranger things have happened. Oh, absolutely. And especially nowadays with advances in technology. Yeah, i think you should. Yeah. This is heather a few months after she was born, but she isnt heather here. She was tiffany. But then her name and the whole course of her life changes all because of a guy named John Robinson. John robinson was a very interesting man. Originally from chicago area. John robinson was born in 1943 in cicero, illinois, and grew up in a somewhat working class neighborhood there. From everything we know about John Robinsons youth, it was ordinary. He was an eagle scout, he loved animals, and got along great with everybody. In fact when he was a young man, made a trip to england, where he sang for the queen of england. A command performance for Queen Elizabeth at the palladium in london when he was about 13. Backstage at the palladium, he ran into judy garland. She kissed him on the cheek and this made a big story in the chicago papers. In 1964, he was 21 years old and he met a woman named nancy jo lynch, and they would be married for decades and decades. He got a job at a chicago hospital as an xray technician. But instead of doing a lot of xrays, he started having affairs and stealing money from the hospital. John robinson got a job in the late 60s i believe with a doctor graham, who happened to be Harry Trumans personal physician. He was a very good people person. Smiled a lot. He gave an Excellent First impression. But he had another side to him as well. It was found out that he had embezzled 25,000 from dr. Graham. We werent the only ones. He went on to have many, many years of embezzlement and other White Collar Crimes. He had this long, long career as this con man. If there was a way to con somebody, Johnny Robinson had already thought it through. Hes always doing a con. Hes always stealing from someone. Time after time, robinson is caught and convicted for these White Collar Crimes, but every time he manages to escape any real significant prison time. In 1977 theres a banquet in Downtown Kansas City at one of the hotels, and they announced that the man of the year was John Robinson for all his great work that hed done. And it turned out that it was his own invention. Nominated himself. Ordered the plaque himself. The whole thing. He made it all up. With a lot of serial killers, you hear the cliche about it. Them living double lives, this guy had five lives. You kind of have to think about his wife and family. They have four children by now. And hes trying to present himself in a very favorable light. Hes the referee of his kids soccer games, hes an elder at the church. I think part of the reason that he was able to get away with it so long was cause he didnt look dangerous. He looks more like the pillsbury doughboy than he does, you know, the chainsaw massacre guy. You know, hes very congenial. He smiles. He laughs. He tells stories. He slaps you on the back. Steve haymes was robinsons probation officer. He had his eye on robinson for a long time, knowing that something beyond White Collar Crime was involved here. There was no doubt in my mind that robinson was up to no good. Open an Olathe North High School from the early 1980s, youll see a darkhaired girl with a very bright future. It gets to be 1984, he hires Paula Godfrey. Paula answered an ad in the newspaper for a job. Thats where she met robinson. And she disappears. Her father confronted John Robinson, who totally said, i dont know what youre talking about. All of a sudden, these letters started appearing signed by his daughter saying, oh, im okay, you know, im fine. You dont need to worry about me. Youre a parent or a sibling, and youve lost contact, and then out of the blue you get a letter from them. It probably made you feel good at least initially that, well, theyre okay, but then on closer examination theyd often say, well, this doesnt sound like her. John robinson was a very good predator. He chose his victims well. They were looking for some way out of their poverty and their problems. John robinson gave it to them. Heather also met with steve haymes. That was a really powerful meeting for her. We ready . All right. Do you want to start out . I would go with how did you come across john . 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Unitedhealthcare Medicare Advantage plans, including the only plans with the aarp name. Free dental care and eye exams, and free designer eyewear. Go ahead, take advantage. Steve haymes was a probation officer. And he was John Robinsons probation officer in the 1980s. He had a hunch back then that John Robinson was guilty of something very serious. And he pursued that. A hugger . I am. So good to finally meet you. This is a meeting 35 years in the making. Yes, it is. Ive watched my own kids grow up. Ive always, you know, yeah. What became of this girl, what happened to her . I was haunted, you know, by that picture. The picture of you and your mom, you know. I mean, that image is just burned into my mind. I mean, i had searched high and low through this city. But it all went it all went nowhere. I dont think anyone cared more about lisa than he did, and the fact that all those years he never gave up, which has always motivated me, cause i refuse to give up. Lisa stasi was a young woman in a difficult marriage. I met lisa in 1984. She was from alabama and she was a southern girl, you know . And she was beautiful. She got pregnant and they decided they wanted to get married. This is tiffanys baby book. This is all lisas writing, how she felt about tiffany. When you are old enough to read this, i hope you will still be feeling the love i have for you, because its a love stronger than life itself. And then it ends. After four months theres nothing, its just blank pages. So how did it change when the baby was born . I was struggling finding work, and we were having problems. It she said that shed had a fight with carl and she didnt know what to do or where to go. And so i took her to the hope house. We had a residential facility and housed about 25 women and children at a time. And at that same time, John Robinson had started kansas city outreach program, which was purportedly a program to help downtrodden women. Through this phony philanthropic effort, robinson was introduced to lisa stasi. He ends up putting her up at the rodeway inn. Lisa had left the rodeway inn. She had taken the baby. Robinson was frantic to find her. She was at my house. And what was she saying . She was just telling me about this person and i felt uneasy about it. Theres this blinding snowstorm. The city is paralyzed. Robinson shows up at kathy klinginsmiths house. Weve got to leave right now. Weve got to get out of here. I was very scared. He loads lisa and tiffany up in his car, leaving behind lisas car, her clothing, baby food, diapers. She went back to the rodeway inn and thats when my mom got the phone call. She said, they want me