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good evening. it has been 25 years since the murders that led to the trial of the century. oj. simpson, acquitted in the deaths of his ex-wife and her friend ron goldman. now goldman's sister kim is taking an unusual step in the search for answers. here's my "nightline" co-anchor, juju chang. >> we the jury find the defendant, orenthal james simpson not guilty. >> reporter: it was the dramatic end to the trial of the century. >> upon ronald lyle goldman, a human being as charged in count two of the information. we the jury in the above-entitled action find the special circumstance -- >> reporter: a young kim goldman, distraught by o.j. simpson's acquittal. >> i wasn't thinking of anybody but my brother, and in some ways feeling like we let him down. >> reporter: 25 years after her brother ron's murder, a sister's quest for answers. >> i learned very quickly that the truth doesn't really need to show up in a courtroom. honor doesn't have to take place in a courtroom, because it didn't give us what we deserve. >> reporter: in a new podcast, confronting o.j. simpson, kim comes face-to-face with unof on the jurors. >> that deliberation was set long before they started asking about this evidence. what it was, they wanted to cover up the fact. >> reporter: a juror admitted to her that after nearly two months of testimony they reached a surprisingly speedy verdict. >> after three and a half hours that they graced us with was a cover up. it was all bs. >> to me it was. >> reporter: what was your reaction as he was saying this to you? >> oh, i was mad. i was trying to keep my composure, and i was mad and i said you didn't do your job. >> we're a family that wanted justice, simple as that. wanted the person that violently, viciously butchered two people to be held accountable. to pay the price. >> reporter: today marks the anniversary of the day that ron was brutally stabbed, alongside nicole brown simpson. where are you 25 years later in grieving your son? >> i think for me it's every day for 25 years has been a day without ron there. to not be able to see him growing and fulfilling his dreams. ron would be 50 now. and i can't, i can't even fathom that that makes sense to me. >> reporter: kim says she usually spends this day privately visiting ron's grave, but this year is different. >> i sort of felt like this is my year. i'm kind of going back in time. i'm revisiting conversations. i'm revisiting relationships. facing fears. i'm facing some truths. >> reporter: in her podcast, she talks to some of the key players who became household names like prosecutor marsha clark. >> to my great regret more and more got heaped onto my shoulders. i was running literally 24/7. >> reporter: and kato kaelin. that famous houseguest. how did people treat you after the trial. >> they would spit at me, having actual hate. so many times i've gotten messages of you should have been the guy that was murdered. >> reporter: kim said she didn't know what to expect when she started the project. >> it was bigger than all of us. for me i wanted to know the impact of that and what got left in the wake. >> reporter: she also explores what grief looks like decades after a violent crime. >> those of us living in it, we have to figure out a way to make room for all of that throughout the day. whether it's grief or the loss of it, the anger from it, the emotion that comes with it. we have to figure out where to put it. >> reporter: kim says her big brother was her protector. >> my dad raised us from when we were 3 1/2 and 6. he was a single dad. >> every picture i have of them in my mind is the two of them together, holding hands or together in some format. that was who they were. and it never changed. >> reporter: what was that moment like for you when they broke the news to you that it was your son who had died alongside nicole brown? >> we found out in the most bizarre way. it was a phone call from the coroner's office, basically saying, did you hear about the death of nicole brown? and i said what does that have to do with me? and they said, well, your son was the other victim. and, you know, i was shocked, overwhelmed. >> reporter: you felt it was really crucial that you break the news to kim? >> well, i didn't want kim to hear from the news or from anyone else. sadly, i had to be the one to tell her. >> he said did you hear anything on the news today? and i said i don't know what you're talking about. and he, he just basically said that ron died. i remember just falling to the crying. >> attention all units and stations, attempt to locate 187 suspect. >> reporter: the goldmans couldn't predict the circus that would follow, all playing out in front of the cameras. >> last name of simpson. >> let's immediately go to a picture in los angeles. >> reporter: from that white bronco chase, watched by 95 million people to the unforgettable courtroom display. >> if it doesn't fit you must acquit. >> reporter: o.j.'s lawyers, dubbed the dream team presented an argument in a community grappling with mistrust of the police, with the member rivory rodney king still fresh. >> i understand people have mistrust of police departments. but for a family sitting across the room, looking across it and seeing the person they believe killed their brother or loved one, you want all of that to go away, because that's not what's supposed to be on trial. what's supposed to be on trial is the evidence, the facts, the science. >> reporter: a year after the criminal case, o.j. simpson was found liable for the deaths of nicole and ron in a civil trial. >> the judgment for both families was $33.5 million. split, as he willingly paid anything? no. the only justice that would have mattered when it comes right down to it is that he would have been in jail on death row. >> reporter: but in 2007, surveillance video captured simpson stealing sports memorabilia from a hotel room in vegas. the charges landed him in a courtroom once again. the goldmans were there, this time simpson would end up in prison, convicted of robbery and kidnapping. but in 2017, he was released on parole. >> when he was released back into society the hairs on my neck went back up again. i know supposedly he's in vegas. >> reporter: recently, simpson was seen in these newly-released photos taken last week. >> he's had his life continue over all these years. he's had opportunities to do things. ron didn't. >> reporter: simpson told "the associated press" we don't need to go back and relive the worst day of our lives. the subject of the moment is the subject i will never revisit again. my family and i have moved on to what we call the no negative zone. we focus on the positives. o.j. simpson to this day maintains his innocence. >> does he really, though? does he say i didn't do it? i don't think i've ever heard him come out and "i didn't do it." >> reporter: today kim says she likes to keep the focus on honoring her brother's legacy by fighting for victims' rights. >> we want to make sure the story shifts back to ron and nicole. we aren't the only family, there are people victimized on a daily, on an hourly basis. that's where the focus needs to be. that's where we choose to talk about it. >> our thanks to juju. one quick note, the confrontings the heroic efforts to preserve and protect some of the most endangered animals on this planet. with fordpass, rewards are just a tap away. whether it's using rewards points toward things like complimentary maintenance. or for vehicle accessories. and with fordpass, a tap can also get you 24/7 roadside assistance. and lock your vehicle. only fordpass puts all this in the palm of your hand. fordpass. built to keep you moving. 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>> reporter: who quickly become their loveable best friends. dramatically increasing their chances at survival. the guide dog program was pie neared by the vice president for animal programs at the zoo. >> they will provide them with the confidence they don't naturally have. >> reporter: here they columbus zoo and the wild, conservation is one of the cornerstones of their operation. they're saving endangered species and helping animals in need. those efforts highlighted in the nat geowild show. and as we saw when we met emmett, the guide dog program is working. what do you think people should know about the cheetah? >> i think they should know it's the most magnificent animal in the world. there's less than 7,000 of them. it's most endangered big cat in africa, and i don't know that a lot of people realize that. this cat's in trouble. we need to do everything we can to keep these animals around. >> reporter: without his mom around. emmett needed some extra and very adorable help. >> go get your brothers. >> reporter: it's amazing to see a yellow lab and the cheetah side by side. who would have thought? it's this bond that suzy of the show. >> secrets are nothing more than compassion, hard work and the love of what we do. >> reporter: hi. that compassion was evident everywhere we went, from otters to manatees. while at manatee coast. gosh, it's wonderful to meet you! a special visit, tv personality jack hannah. you do so much all over the world, yet this zoo is in ohio. how does what you're working on in ohio help the greater plan set in >> it does. people come here. you see these people might never be able to get to florida to see a manatee. they might not get to go to africa to see a lion. >> reporter: they take the mission very seriously. the doctor is one of the zoo's veterinarians. she's also some of the life-saving procedures that they do every day. the blood drawn from lance the giraffe will be placed into the giraffe plasma bank to help others in need. >> they're beautiful. they're charismatic. they're incredibly smart. >> reporter: look how playful they are. it's hard not to fall in love with them. >> that's what we want. >>ep welcome to the columbus zoo, everybody. these gentle giants are also vulnerable to extinction. what has the reaction been like to see you and the giraffes on the show? >> to me, it has a very emotional impact. because look how much they're doing. you know, we love these individual animals, and to see that has such a bigger purpose to animals in other zoos, animals in the wild. >> reporter: we head to the wild, the zoo's park in southeast ohio where we go on a safari with the doctor. >> reporter: where are we heading off to? >> we're going to the pat toust of the wilds. >> reporter: this vast landscape forms one of the larngestststst conservation centers in north america. here wildlife is able to graze and live freely. and some of the giants even come up to say hello. how does it feel to be so famous here? are most of the animals endangered? >> threatened, endangered or critically endangered. >> reporter: and as part of the survival plan, they've even brought animals back from the brink of extinction. >> there's a baby right there. >> reporter: oh, yeah. right behind her. the went extinct but continue to be bred in captivity. >> to some it's just some antelope, but their story is incredible. >> reporter: they were no longer in existence, but you were able to bring them back. in 2016, a group were returned to the wild, released in the country of chad. >> animals born here in southeastern ohio are now wild in chad. that's really what we're about. that is full circle. it actually brings a tear to my eye when i think about it. >> reporter: and it's that care that's seen in every episode. in this season, a pregnant cheetah undergoes a harrowing birth. and the doctor is there every step of the way. >> it is moving. it is nursing. >> yes, yes, why hyes, yes! she's never looked back. we were thrilled. this was her last shot at being a mom. we so pleased. look at her. >> reporter: since the filming, she has continued to raise her cubs, and they're now a year old. what's point of conservation? 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