New Mexico PBS Senior Producer Matt Grubs interviewing Bryan Metzger from New Mexico In Depth With pandemic restrictions at the Roundhouse this year, lobbyists have found themselves on the outside of a process in which they’re often the ultimate insiders. Bryan Metzger is a reporting fellow with New Mexico In Depth who recently looked at the outsized role lobbyists have in our unpaid citizen legislature. He spoke with New Mexico PBS senior producer Matt Grubs. See the full interview here. METZGER: Obviously, we know that the legislature is in sort of a mostly online format, right? I mean, the Senate is in sort of a hybrid format, the house is going to be basically entirely online. What that means for both legislators and lobbyists is, overall, a disruption to the way that business is usually done. You know, at least one of the lobbyists that I spoke to, wasn't that concerned about the virtual nature of the session, because he already knew all the legislators, he had relationships with them, he had most of their phone numbers. And so switching from in-person interaction, to having to text and call people wasn't going to be that big of a deal for him.