Is it possible to solve it or not . Basically, you agree with mr. Salari , who doesnt heal a pain. Look, i dare to point out this point. For example, the problem of pollution is the first problem of our big cities i tell you seriously and confidently that this is a sign of your knowledge of shahreh news, not of Technical Knowledge and knowledge of the knowledge of the foundation. Caroriented in our urban Planning System means that if our urban Planning System is not designed based on cars , basically with this phenomenon, these are the product of another crisis, these are the result of another crisis in our urban Planning System. Although both of these and other issues such as pervasive urban poverty and inequality, well, assuming that, for example, if you the Management Structure of our city should not be of the same fabric. Will those issues be resolved . I can tell you with confidence that if they had been resolved, they would have been resolved by now, but it is clear from the general experience of the world. And the general Human Experience for megacities and large cities has clearly gone towards the management of an urban fabric, your management from these cities of istanbul in turkey to ankara to cities like tokyo, london, paris, even the cities of many islamic countries that we are facing today, the mayor is the manager. The original famous and full hand. You see, we finally agree that water, electricity, gas , telecommunications and these missions are also a type of service other citizens, like the green spaces , for example , these services are not more complicated and difficult than the subway. We could have the green spaces of the cities from the very beginning of the year. 52 we should not leave it to the municipalities, but based on the law on the preservation of the expansion of gardens and green spaces , we left these to the municipalities, and today, per capita , our green spaces in the cities are among the advanced urban indicators in the world, a brilliant indicator, metromons index. Brilliantly, we could make an excuse not to hand over the burden of fruit and vegetable fields to the municipalities. We used to say that this is a matter of sovereignty, but today we know that if this authority was not in the hands of the municipalities, this is the reality of the mission of the government. It consists of policy making, facilitating and leading the City Government when it forms, when the People Choose the City Management, when the City Management chooses the mayor, it should leave the city to him , ask him questions, have a facilitating role in it, so now, for example, we say definitely is. Important structure or financial and Economic Resources , i can tell you with confidence that the structure is more important than your financial resources, if you fix the structure, one of the factors that can solve the financial resources, except for you , who are facing the division of urban management today, which of the experts , even i can confidently you say that our governors dont know how many are in the cities of the provincial capitals and even our small towns. We are spending a lot of rials or effort because the devices are working in such a piecemeal manner that they do not come together in such a way. The city lacks priority when the city lacks priority it is possible for any organization to think that its own program is a priority, and at the end of the day, we have to accept this fact. We are a country under sanctions , our Economic Resources are very limited , and we must use our Economic Resources in the best possible way. It plans for the city, while we are very efficient in the administration of our cities. Our priorities are also lost. The fact of the matter is that the basis of achieving uniform management and assigning missions to municipalities should be hierarchical, which means that today we decided to come to 1,400 cities. Lets hand it over first in the first cities in the big cities. First of all, we have to make a separate program for tehran. Please let me know how to hand it over. Im going to ask you. I only have one question for you. Please answer me very briefly. This is the point that mr. Salari mentioned that it is a priority. With the problem of congestion , environment, traffic , etc. , you didnt agree with the management at all. Most of these are the product of management division, and at all, these are the result. See me in an article that was published almost 2 months ago in the capital magazine of urban management, which was written in the language it is in english, printed from about 160. To the executive director of the country it was asked, what do you know about urban management in iran and who is the owner of the city . By the way, the main crisis of urban management in iran is the division of urban management. Thank you, mr. Salari. I would like to present some information on some of their services, and if you forgive me, you can answer their questions. Lets go. Yes, i will definitely answer this. See the matching analogy. Between here, for example, with france and switzerland or something, this actually does not solve many problems. Basically, the model of Power Distribution in different societies means who should be the government, where should it be. For example, the mayor of tehran, is he the Police Commander , the mayor of tehran, can he collect taxes, the mayor of tehran, the ruler of the city of tehran, meaning someone who governs or not. Todays mayor of tehran is an individual with the same coordinates. These two are different in different societies. Certainly , what can the mayor of paris or the city council of paris do . He can collect taxes , he can change the tax rate, he can pay fees , but here we dont have anything like that. Basically, taxes are taken by the government. What the City Administration does is in the tolls department, which now also has certain limitations, so this comparison is not valid it says that the problem has not been well seen. This is the first point. The second point. I am not saying that it is a structural problem or a coordination problem. I am saying that these institutions, these institutions that we created, lets solve the problem. Basically, for example, we created the radio and television to solve the news problem. We fixed the tax, we fixed the tax issue , we fixed the municipality, we fixed the city issue , we fixed the university, we fixed the science issue, this is a series of putting these on the ground throughout history in 3 decades, 4 decades, 5 decades, 6 decades, sitting, an exit there are some , i mean this, today we should talk about the philosophy of this institution lets read again and see where the municipality, the council, the government and every institution, every structure, every process is in solving the problem of the mass of the people. I mentioned the examples of tehrans problems to say that if this is an overflow and the problems of the city of tehran , where is the starting point, this is a point, so my question is to fix the structure first or to coordinate the cotton, according to you, it is not that the beginning of solving these challenges is the management problems of the same fabric. There is no tuition fee at all. We have to come and see this institution that we created , we called it council and municipality. The mass of people from the perspective from the point of view of the developments in the world, where do the academic elites stand in terms of solving the problem of the city of tehran . It was here that i said that if we go back to the issue of financing , the issue of financing is not a priority. I came to one of the big cities of iran and i studied it. I saw that if 70 to 80 are in the 30year trend, then when i analyzed it , i saw that i reached several thousand people. For example, 7080 of the expenses of a metropolis of 1012 million are paid by a few thousand people. Whose problem is construction, now it may be 5 thousand people or 10 thousand people , according to the number of permits that are issued , now it is a little up and down. They have property and housing, and they have it in tehran. So, the problem and the primary target of those who are paying tehrans expenses is this, but where are the 97 communities of tehran involved in the City Administration of tehran, very little, where are the four sustainable income codes that i presented to you , that is, according to their order, two and three thousand billion maybe a little more money in a city like tehran is due to the charging fee that all citizens of tehran pay as a result of this financing model. What do you have to do . It is inevitable that the same activity that i mentioned is at your service. Therefore, i would like to add one more point here. Basically, the institutions mean the mechanisms that we have created. Today, in the eyes of the masses, people look at them with a pessimistic view. The general public is considered a source by the societys elites and societys activists for their own rent and benefit. That is, in other words, the public goods that are defined in the world are those goods public, which we learned in the Public Sector economy , we say public goods means goods that you subsidize and finance from all people, you make an allocation and explain again, he doesnt feel this, you almost, for example, you now , for example, the issue of taxes in iran, taxes in the world. Two or three goals have been set, the first is to correct macroeconomic policies , the second is to redistribute the obtained resources, that is, to solve the issue of justice , and the third is to provide public goods , for example, in our country, which one of these three goals will be satisfied by taxes . You prove that our tax issue is just covering the cost this is what you actually have in the city and what you have in the rest of the districts, so we will come here. Once again, we have to come and revise historically. If, for example, we have a municipality today, what is the problem with the society of the city of tehran and tudeh . People solve it and how should this be done again today , mr. Buchani vala , i really like the truth of mr. Salaris words, i think about him and i listen very carefully to see that these discussions in the field of taxation and they say that the issue of financing is related to the issue of management. Urban and finally, it is a real question , what will be the management model of our cities in the next 50 years . After all , this is a clear question. We cannot solve our new problems with old tools and then with the accusation that, for example, now they are, for example , the cities around, even islamic cities. I go to nonislamic cities, neighboring cities , etc. , etc. , which are really a step toward management and very successful. First of all, i would like to point out that our issue is not only the city of tehran, i am talking about 1400 local management cities in iran. I seriously believe that this 1400 cities have differences with each other, pointing out that almost more than 50 of our urban population is in 40 cities, 39 to 40 cities that have over 200,000. We are established. If we can , we can solve the issue of organizational structure and management in one piece. At the same time, we will gradually go towards exploitation. The legal issue and our legal duty, which is included in the laws of the program, has also been included in the general policies of the system. Second, finally, you have to accept the law in iran, derived from other sharia, when a legal issue is raised in the law of councils , article 88, clause 6 or article 5 of the law of councils , it becomes an obligation. Tick to the government that manages one. This law has not been implemented at all regardless of its expertise, the main reason for not implementing the management of a single urban fabric in iran. Someone is urban management in the structure of the executive branch. The ministry of interior has never faced its legal mission, which is to lead and solve the problem of urban management in iran not done seriously and properly. Basically , it was not his priority. That is, i expected that in the current period, mr. Vahidi himself would play a role in setting the general policies of the system in various fields. I am at your service now, mr. Vahidi kol. This is not possible at all unless the government itself is willing to hand over its duties. Finally, we agree that a government whose productivity is extremely low, that is, you say , the municipalities and City Management should definitely, definitely , the municipality and the City Management. The basis of knowledge that i was involved in these structures is not to see you see me until i am done urban management in various areas has shown experience both in iran and in the world, while we finally accept the work at a faster pace, our governments resources are limited. Financing is not my offer, it is something else, i will be at your service once my offer is finished , then see the tax law added to it, the income law , the law of sustainable incomes, how much do you think the law of sustainable incomes solves the problem of cities , less than 1, very less, very little, do you know why, because from 1363 to 1401 when this law was passed the government should have done this within 6 months. The government does not want to hand over its responsibilities. What do you think is the reason . Because the government does not take this risk for various reasons. Say that governments do not know. No, you see, the governments do not want to hand over the offices, because the reality is that Everyone Wants to sign more of this structure , give more orders, that is, a human being, so you have accepted the issue of concentration and concentration of power , is it in my hands or in your hands no, my problem is after all, the government is not only the executive branch , and by the way, because of this, they are more inclined to hand over tenure, and we even propose a university discussion. Not as someone who can see things , i am a different type of executive than you, no, i am not talking about this at all. I say that this conversation and this created atmosphere is actually an experts view. Yes , it is correct. In this paradigm , we are actually discussing. The management of the unit does not have a job, he has to live his daily life normally, he looks at himself , it was done in different fields. In his eyes, it doesnt matter what is happening, he is seeing the outputs. A group of elites of the society looking at the mass demands of the people , three scientific trends dominating the world, these three constructs are correct. If you agree with these three propositions, you and i are the problem. Today in the city of tehran and in the big cities, the problem is not that the mayor of isfahan is the ruler of isfahan. To be or not what is important in its own place , today it should be known what the government means it solves a problem, and with what mechanism . Yes, i accept that humanity has reached this point, that the more this governance model is explained, the more popular it is, the lower the layers, this character has been fixed, but it is still saying something. It is completely dependent on the requirements of the context or environment. Let me give you a simpler example. Just today, assume that tehrans gas Field Authority is taken away and given to tehran municipality. A hypothetical example. See what happens in your opinion. In the city council , we invited the general director of the environment of tehran and asked him if you are in the city this year tehran, the sources of capital, if you want to do a capital project, how much is that year, i remember. The amount was about 15 billion tomans , while at the same time, for the environment of tehran city , the amount of over 1000 billion tomans of tehran municipality was implementing Capital Projects. If they are separated from here, their sources of income will be more, basically , mainly from many executive bodies. My argument was that the resources that are given to provincial executive bodies in the form of the countrys general budget it is insignificant that it does not and will not solve the problem of your city. Well, i have proved that the resources of my city do not meet the needs of the city. You are now faced with the duality of policymaking within the city, which severely distorts the citys priorities , that is, you have a city where the municipality, on the other hand , can at least solve some of the citys problems , but does not have the authority to do so. Now, look at the reality of the matter. This is to see that now the municipality is taking action to move a user even in our big cities. We are forced to join the government well, the critics of the city also say this, mr. Kiani , i apologize , mr. Buchani, if you want to tell me what will be the benefit for the city and the people if the issue that you believe in, the management of an urban fabric, happens. The field of urban management is sovereignty in the sense of power. In my opinion, the executive and the power of maghnene are trying to make the City Administration system stable for the people, that is, the more these missions are handed over to the people, to the peoples representatives, and the smaller the government is, the government will achieve its main missions, and the reality is that it will be faster. Responding to the needs of the citizens can be increased. Can you give a better example , mr. Manager of gaso company in tehran province . Kenny, what i mean by managing a city cloth is not just that one person comes to be the manager. First of all, you must have someone. Now, he wants to be the mayor to be chosen by the people , the mayors choice is to be chosen by the city council, the city wants. May it be approved by the cabinet like the governor the legal model should work in six hundred ways. Our Current Crisis is that our city does not have an executive director to manage the City Administration. If this happens, the first achievement is that you will be faced with setting clear priorities. Second, the size of the government will decrease. Fourthly, the utilization system in the urban Management System is increasing. The issue of