The iranian coach, sharaf iran, is playing with a telegram across the country, why are you pricing this month . Your question is an interesting question. We do not want to be the manager of a football player. Whoever we are today, we are stronger in the name of god. Greetings we are at your service with another debate. In the past few days, the discussion of addition or deletion has been discussed. Im in a hurry option has become a discussion point for supporters and opponents in internet taxis. The head of the Penal Organization had announced that this is illegal and should be removed. On the other hand, before that, the head of the development center, the head of the center, i ask you to improve and monitor the environment. And the work of the ministry of economy stated that basically there is no legal prohibition, internet Taxi Companies can have this option as a price bargaining tool. They are, but in any case, the supporters and opponents have different opinions. Which we will discuss above in this part of the debate, please accompany us until the end. Before we enter into our discussion, i invite the guests of the program to go and see peoples opinions on muhammad allahs report together, see what they think, we will return to our discussions. We start, im in a hurry and i agree with him, yes, yes, why, because the car will be found sooner, i can come to him just so that i can connect quickly, thats why we say hurry up, because i say, if i have to talk to them, i have the option to hurry, so look, we all these stories are about our dishonesty. Either the amount is really correct or false. Snap fare is so low. When the driver comes to collect the fare , there is nothing left for him. At least he is in a hurry. At least he takes the drivers commission. So you , as a passenger, agree, i agree. The routes that, for example, the prices that they pay. In general , it hits very low because it hits when im in a hurry , so it makes the price a little higher , its just for the driver, and the passenger will get caught by the car sooner , its unfair, theres nothing that needs a person for this, so thats what they do. One the organization is a company that should not be needed because they are in a hurry to charge a lot of money from the people, the price is higher than what they are asking from the people , as i am in a hurry, this and it shouldnt be like this, this is injustice , lets put something on the average. Im in a hurry, i agree, i agree, i agree, im in a hurry, because as a person i want to consume, i also have a consumer, for example, im taking a step because im really embarrassed at this rate. Khan, its 190 tomans , no, if i want it, im in a hurry, i need two if there is an option, i am open to the choice, sir, the price is cheap , i will choose it. Well, we saw the report of mohammad elhari together , we asked peoples opinions, and we found out that here in the upper studio, mr. Esfanani, the spokesperson of the state penitentiary organization, is also present, as well as mr. Hadi, the deputy the former Ecommerce Development center and an Economic Expert are present and they will hold the debate together. Hello, god bless both guests of the program. I would like to start with mr. Hadi and where does the reason for this question that i am basically opposed to hazab option come from . What is the eye of refuge . By allah, i am the devil, in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful. Greetings and have a good time. We are at the service of his highness, the honorable guest of the program and the respected viewers. We are in the last days of the month of shaban. Inshallah, we all enter the holy month of ramadan and the month of gods hospitality with a summary of purity and cleanliness. I think i need to give an explanation first. In fact, we have a concept in recent years in economic discussions under the title of platform economy. The fact of the matter is that, well, this issue has been discussed in detail, it has scientific bases and in fact research, and i have this discussion every day. It goes, but unfortunately at the current level, both the authorities and the government , as well as the general public, this issue is somewhat closed , and i actually think that one of the reasons is that the speed of growth in the field of Digital Economy and in fact in the field of ecommerce and the general state of the economy of sequoi has been in a way that has actually caused them to stay practically everywhere due to the success and achievement that they have now, that is, the speed that they have set for themselves. Whether at the level of managers and officials or at the level of the general public, we are a bit behind in understanding those basics and lets face the facts, if i want to explain very briefly, i will say that in fact, we had the concept of the platform in a traditional way, for example, with a simple example, in fact, instead of talking about each and every one, the doctors called the office and the rental fee. And the office and in fact fixed costs , for example, a system, telephone, fax, printer, etc. These came in the form of a series of clinics or , for example, doctors buildings, and actually a collection of 10 to 15 to 20 doctors. With a few secretaries , the whole work was actually done by scheduling and managing their affairs, but the fact of the matter is that the Digital Economy and in fact Digital Technology and the internet in general have revolutionized this platform discussion and actually brought us to numbers that we could never have imagined in the past and actually brought us to those new installers arrived, which was really a serious development. Right now, my whole point is that we actually have three aspects in the platform economy. In the traditional economy, we have a supplier of goods and services that supplies its own goods and services, but in in fact, the platform economy, which is the basis of subject specialization, is that a company t and the field of Information Technology and a series of Information Technology experts create a platform and a series of suppliers of goods and services that we now call suppliers on this platform actually offer their own goods and services that now fortunately, in the field of ecommerce platforms that we are talking about now , we really have very successful and advanced and mature platforms that i just want to get attention. We pass by it and do not Pay Attention to the fact that if we in fact, what was our situation . Ill just give an example that in the field of ecommerce , we now have platforms in the field of advertising that are very successful, and we are completely separated from foreign and completely native platforms. Work is being done in the field. Lets talk about tourism, hotels and lodgings, inns in the area of reality and comprehensive image, now whether it is mediaoriented or useroriented in the areas of plane and bus tickets, etc. , and in the field of smart transportation, which is clearly the subject of our discussion here. In fact , we have to Pay Attention to the fact that we have three sides in one in fact, it is the platform that we see in that face of the child. On the one hand, in fact, for example, in this field of intelligent transportation, in fact, we have about 4, 5, 56 million drivers who are actually providing this service on these platforms. We have millions of passengers who are actually users. In analyzing the issues, we should Pay Attention to the fact that our report is changing from the traditional economy, which is often based on the government economy and orders, to the platform economy one by one. Necessary yes, and this has been exactly the same points of success , that is, in the traditional economy, in the same field , despite all the subsidies we have given , we have followed orders, the provisions of different laws, if he wanted to answer, he would have answered, and now we see the situation of public transportation. Buses , the situation of taxis and the fact that a new area is coming and in one area , for example, in a period of five to six years , it will find two or three times as many methods, and it will be met with peoples luck and satisfaction, and it will increase Public Welfare. This is not exactly clear. It is that this was able to solve the problem. Now how did you solve the problem . Solve . This is exactly the point, which is actually sophistication and that technology and Specialized Knowledge that exists behind this case and actually brought our relations from that traditional and commanding and often governmental state and reached this point. Now, i am at your service how to deal with this in the field of smart transmission, here are some tips. Mr. Esfalani, why did the Penal Organization remove the ajl daramo option . And why do you agree with this . Yes , in the name of allah , the most merciful, the most merciful. You see, we in the government punishment organization, in terms of the fact that you are obliged to act according to the law, and the legal regulations have given us the permission to prevent the violation where there is a violation. There are public reports and what can i say, field research. It indicates that this option does not have any additional benefits for people compared to the option of not being in a hurry, which means that the distance that the taxi has to travel is the same distance that it would travel if there is no deadline, and the time that is considered is the same time. That he actually chooses im in a hurry. A person who wants to exploit this collection and actually use it is paying an additional amount between 20 and sometimes 40 compared to the actual price. Why is there a time when, for example , i am in a hurry to choose an option and pay. There is one more thing that he has not removed yet. We hope that he will obey the law and remove this option. We do not deny any of these cases, of course , yes, the progress of science, the progress of the Digital Economy , i would like to say that we also accept the platform economy. It is natural that at a time when science is so advanced in the world, it is natural that we cannot act in a traditional way. However, lets move this space to a direction where, in fact , while people will benefit from this issue , they will also suffer. We accept the benefit of the people we believe that the harm they suffer unnecessarily is a violation and should be dealt with, mr. Padi. In fact , the explanation that i gave first was precisely because of this point that mr. Esfanani reached in this matter. Esfanani, we are faced with two children of the people, apart from the fact that now this company itself is also a private sector and there is no Government Institution or affiliated to anywhere that we can think that it was formed with government rent, etc. , but the point i mentioned is exactly about this you should see that these platforms that we have now are all actually the same the country, which is mostly elite educated and based on knowledge and technology, and a specialized field is formed and is really able to provide the best service to the people and raise the quality of Public Welfare in the various areas that i have given examples of. We should not underestimate the scythians that we have, which are really created with the blood of the liver. Now, this view that we want to have should really be a view that those who shape and regulate these and it is also such regulation that we are the only area that direction in the past 10 years, your email has been constantly growing , it was only in the field of ecommerce and Digital Economy, we did not have any other field in the economy, so what was the reason for this . Well, developing this, now i want to get to the point that you have made, please take care of it. You see , we are facing two sides here. Lets invent a wheel, we have a drivers side, that is a company that has an internet taxi, which actually provides a lot, is a driver. Suppose you and i are drivers and we are going to transfer a passenger from an origin to a destination. From that passenger, what should work here is the supply mechanism. And the demand and the market, which , unfortunately, are completely distorted in the traditional view and the state economy and order, and the reason why we did not move forward in other economic fields is exactly the same issue, now this transformation that has created , take care of it. Well , finally. You are also intellectually older than us mashaallah, you have a history in the government , the blood of the livers has been eaten for this issue, he said that in short, we have eaten the house of the hearts until we reached here, and that we should sit at once with a look from top to bottom and the guardian pretending that sir, yes, we should remove it, right . Excuse me, well, the first thing is that this area is not an area that has tariff pricing and approved pricing, sir, this is my product, this glass is mine, i want to put a price of 1 million, this is against sharia, against the law. Well, lets see how this mechanism works, and now ill tell you why i said that this field is a specialized and knowledgebased field , that all companies are knowledgebased companies, and that all of them are actually regularly ordered by his highness and the legal vicechancellor , which was formed with the direct opinion of his holiness, this was the only field in which we had success. And people are really using it now. Now, what is the way we enter. Look at this mechanism and the mechanism that exists in this. It is a set of factors that now, if necessary , i will explain in detail that this is working together. It seems that once we consulted the experts in that field without consulting the experts in that field its okay, sir, its okay, im not a small person, not 100 experts, let s have four more sessions, let s say, sir, what does this option do . What country and where are they considering, why do you think this option should be seen . It is not a traditional mechanism. Sometimes we have a traditional mechanism like a bicycle, so we look and understand, sir, it has a pedal, and sometimes its a complex system, it has components. Once a person comes without deep expertise in this field , he says, sir, what is this piece, this piece is extra, we have a cut, it will fall apart at all, like a spaceship, lets say its an airplane now. For example, im in a hurry , the point is that now we put ourselves in the place of the other driver. Lets assume that in the area of jam jam, etc. , it is correct, sir, he sees a series of requests from this source, for example, to tehran, pars, from this source to valenjak, from this source to toheed maidan with a price. The driver makes a decision based on the knowledge he has from this hour of the day with the traffic, the origin and the destination and the prices he sees. It happens to everyone, we are in a hurry, someone is bored, a wife, a child, or to get somewhere, time is important to us, a flight, a meeting , yes , yes , we are ready to double the price, 20, 30, 40 , which is not a number at all. Lets just get there. Im sorry, im sorry, i have time now a few days ago, when this discussion came up, i was telling one of my friends, now its good to change the atmosphere of my discussion a bit. Soil. My floor is not worth it. In traffic , you need to Pay Attention to peoples time in offices, banks, and pages , and this is what makes me want to wait 5 minutes to 10 minutes for a driver in this area to choose that time. It saves for me mr. Esfanani, i am surprised by what you say and that time there is something that you should forgive, the old people speak good words , they speak wisely, they say for years, sir, time is golden , it saves time for you, and how does this not work . We disagree with success, with science, with technology, and these things, no, by the way, we ourselves, my servant, and the whole of our organization strongly agree with the progress. We ourselves also use different platforms in order to serve our people. Based on the socalled expertise. Designed and implemented and naturally us too we agree with all the statements you made in the discussion of science and in the discussion of service delivery. Now , i would like to give you an example. One of these internet taxis in a very short distance, which i wanted to see today, how much it costs, approximate time. He said the trip is 18 minutes. Let me tell you that i am in a hurry, 105,000 tomans is correct, normally 81,000 tomans , i am not in a hurry, 73,000 tomans and the line is 56,000 tomans, you can see the difference in prices, that is, if a person chooses one of these options, for example , i am not in a hurry, it is 73,73 tomans. I have it in a hurry for 105 tomans calculate something, i have another suggestion , you should compare this , i beg your pardon, i dared to say this, you should compare this with a phone taxi, be careful, you are now a phone taxi or even a taxi at all, sometimes a line taxi, which is new from a series of subsidies and in fact , they use subsidies and fuel quotas, which do not exist in this internet taxi system, at least for more than a year, and now it has been cut. There was a fuel quota until the previous years , but it was removed from the beginning of 1401. If you compare , mr. Esfanani, you will see that we are talking truthfully ladies, look at me, i dare you, i am your little one, this is what we have said in the last decades, 40 years, 50 years , in the name of supporting the people. Lets act, prices, peoples living conditions, inflation , we wrote all the laws, the purpose of reducing soandso inflation, literally, what was the result, see the output, dear mr. Esfanani , the distance of my action is that it actually guarantees something that is based on logic and that Specialized Knowledge and rationality. See me and others saying we talk about people and not acting at all it has nothing to do with us. In any case, if we said something, we try to keep our word and we stand by our word. You said that the phone taxi is no longer booming, the existing taxis are booming. Now , i would like to tell you that the trust that people have in these platforms is the reason why this happened. By the way, now we are an agency. Now, i have to tell you now that there are many agencies, telephone taxis, and even taxis between cities and within cities. They are going out, that is , i have seen a lot of these two internet taxis now, according to the famous saying, yellow and green in the city are also working in this system. Yes, maybe one of the reasons is that you a