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And for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com alerts. Now its back to. Mark. To. Mark. Packing a punch this evening. It is mark dolan tonight. My thanks to sophia wenzler, who returns in an hours time. In my returns in an hours time. In my big opinion, if donald trump wins the us elections , will the wins the us elections, will the special relationship be safe in the hands of labour . I have my doubts. Find out why in just a moment. My mark meets guest is the author of a shocking book about the rise of adolf hitler. How did this monster capture a nafion how did this monster capture a nation and threaten the world . And could Something Like this ever happen again . In the big story, after another bruising week for the bbc and as an almighty roar breaks out over the corporations plan to put adverts on their podcasts, is it time to scrap the licence fee altogether . And in my take at ten, harry and meghan celebrate their sixth wedding anniversary this weekend. Is it a marriage this weekend. Is it a marriage made in heaven or hell . Ill be giving my verdict at ten. Reacting to those stories and many more tonight, my top punst many more tonight, my top pundits we have the Green Goddess herself, broadcaster and National Treasure diana moran. National treasure diana moran. We also have fleet street loyalty in our midst. Former editor of the news of the world, the king of the scribblers himself, neil wallis. And last but not least, comedian, broadcaster and dropper of truth bombs. Sajeela kersh. Plus, the bombs. Sajeela kersh. Plus, the most important part of the show your emails and messages. They come straight to my laptop. Gbnews. Com forward slash your essay and this show mark dolan tonight has a golden rule we dont do boring. Not on my dont do boring. Not on my watch. I just wont have it. So mark dolan tonight your perfect saturday night in, crack open a bottle of something cold and fizzy or fire up the kettle and lets get to work. Given that lets get to work. Given that the under fire but unflappable donald trump may well win the race for the white house in november, its a deep concern that one of the most senior figures in the labour party , figures in the labour party, london mayor sadiq khan, has gone on record this week calling donald trump a racist. A sexist and a homophobe. Now im no donald trump cheerleader and im disappointed that biden versus trump is the best america has to offer in a few months time. But offer in a few months time. But the racism allegation is confusing, given trumps growing support among African American voters. Fed up with the woke bs under joe voters. Fed up with the woke bs underjoe biden and his running mate as potential Vice President , this time round will likely be a man of colour in the form of senator tim scott, who may 1st day go on to become a great president. Claims of great president. Claims of sexism are confusing, too. When tens of millions of american women will vote for trump this autumn, as they did two times previously. Talking about previously. Talking about sexism. Is trump as sexist as democratic icon bill clinton, who debased a poor intern in the oval office leading to a significant dry cleaning bill . You tell me. And if trump is you tell me. And if trump is homophobic, well, explain that to his group of supporters who are known as gays for trump. Spare me the meaningless labels that khan and his labour mates like to chuck out at. Anyone who dares to challenge them or reject their divisive identity politics. Dont forget it was Shadow Health secretary wes streeting who said that anyone who voted for the conservative mayoral candidate in london, susan hall, was a racist and islamophobe, or a white supremacist. Islamophobe, or a white supremacist. Hall is on record as saying that those comments put her in danger. The comments were also offensive and wrong, but these are the nice people, the be kind crowd do keep up. Its pretty clear that a large portion, if not all, of the labour party, detest donald trump, which is a big headache given that labour will likely be in power very shortly. Why is in power very shortly. Why is this important . Well, america is the biggest single investor in the biggest single investor in the uk. They are a key cultural, the uk. They are a key cultural, political, economic , diplomatic political, economic, diplomatic and military ally. Our two nafions and military ally. Our two nations came together in the Second World War to defeat hitler and in the 1930s, under thatcher and reagan, to preside over an economic miracle and the collapse of the iron curtain. Collapse of the iron curtain. Well, theres a huge risk that labour will erect a big red curtain between britain and america should they win power. And if trump gets in, particularly given khans recent comments, if britain is hoping for that transformative trade deal with the United States, i wont hold my breath. If starmer is in number 10. Look, donald trump is chaotic. Im not sure hes fit for high office. I dont think hes honest. I dont like his attitude to women and the january 6th riots on the capital were a moment of National Shame for america. And trump helped fan those flames. Plus its wrong, notwithstanding concerns about voting irregularities that he did not concede the election in 2020. If im honest, id far rather the dynamic Florida Governor ron desantis, become president , given his bold and brave leadership during the pandemic in which he pushed back on the madness of lockdowns, mask mandates and vaccine tyranny. He also said florida is where woke goes to die. Heaven a military hero and an unparalleled public administrator, ron desantis embodies the values of freedom and self responsibility, and he leads by them. And dont forget it was trump who was responsible for the first of those ruinous and in my view, failed lockdowns. But right now its a choice between flawed maverick donald trump and confused joe biden, for whom its always bedtime time. Trump has energy and conviction. He didnt start and conviction. He didnt start any wars whilst in office. He saw the economy grow and he attempted to engage with global bad actors like xi jinping of china , Vladimir Putin of russia china, Vladimir Putin of russia and kim jong un of north korea. Meanwhile, joe biden, who has more nurses these days than security guards, prison tided over americas humiliating departure from afghanistan when he censored lockdown critics on social media during the pandemic. He has allowed wokery to infiltrate americas great pubuc to infiltrate americas great Public Institutions , and he has Public Institutions, and he has borrowed yet more billions to prop up the pyramid scheme that is the us economy. Under those circumstance , mrs. Trump, circumstance, mrs. Trump, though, a compromise has to be preferable. So with prominent preferable. So with prominent figures in the party like maya khan attacking trump, can labour be trusted with the special relationship or will it end in a costly divorce . Your reaction costly divorce . Your reaction and lets get to your opinions very shortly. Gbnews. Com yoursay dorsay. But first, my top punst dorsay. But first, my top pundits this evening, dorsay. But first, my top pundits this evening , the green pundits this evening, the Green Goddess, herself a broadcaster and National Treasure , diana and National Treasure, diana moran. We also have the fabulous comedian, actor and playwright sajeela kersh and fleet street royalty, former executive editor of the news of the world, neil wallace. Great to have all three of you with me. Let me get your reaction to this. First of all, diana moran is the special relationship safe in labours hands . Im not sure that it is. Im not sure that it is. It does seem that its going to be trump who gets in. And wouldnt we prefer him to biden . Wouldnt we prefer him to biden . Because at least, you know he thinks more straight than the other chap. Is that your main concern about biden . His Cognitive Health . Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yes, definitely. That weve watched getting more confusing as the months have recently gone past. But yes , clashing with past. But yes, clashing with sadiq khan is a bit of a worry. What do you think, sajeela . Its a special relationship. Safe in labours hands. Youve got the prominent mayor of london calling donald trump a racist, homophobic and a sexist. Well , you know, its racist, homophobic and a sexist. Well, you know, its arguably it could be all three, but its more of a sexist than anything, i think, in terms of having a special relationship, i dont think i think its going to be the relationship. Whatever the relationship. Whatever whoevers in weve got, like rock and a hard place, like, who do we choose . But america is in the same predicament, im no fan of joe biden with afghanistan. You mentioned, you know, he hasnt acted strongly enough with with israel, like, no sanctions , nothing, hes sanctions, nothing, hes cognitive. Obviously thats thats an issue. You know, his health, i mean, really, we should have a cut off and not an ageist. And i think everyone should be working however long i tend to work well into my pension years. But i just think, you know, when you cannot do the job at hand, youve got. Especially when youre running a country thats thats got to stop, i dont think the relationship is it doesnt matter if labour is in or the conservatives. I dont think it makes any difference. That relationship is always going to be there. Its just the better of the two evils on both sides of the two evils on both sides of the two evils on both sides of the shores. Of the shores. To be fair to labour, neil wallace, david lammy , their wallace, david lammy, their leading frontbencher, has engaged with top us republicans and hes been quite dismissive of mayor khans comments about trump. Is that enough . Trump. Is that enough . No. Because who is david lammy . What is the credibility of david . David lammy . Non existent. He may now be the shadow foreign secretary, but less than a couple of years ago he was accusing Scotland Yard of faking the death figures at grenfell. You know, he was a complete , crazy hothead under complete, crazy hothead under the previous labour leadership. Now hes in with the chancellor. Top job. Hell say anything you like, but the truth is, sadiq khan has got a long history of dislike of trump. Hes constantly tried to go. Trump hes playing to his own very local audience here in london, the truth is, sadiq carnage. Three things as well. Hes a failure. Hes a crime failure. Hes a crime perpetrator. And hes a liar. One thing you can guarantee about khan , if he speaks, hes about khan, if he speaks, hes lying. First of all, i mean, you cant call him a failure. This guy is celebrating yet another win to become london mayor. Another term, another four years. And in what sense is he a liar . Liar . Well, hes constantly lying in the London Assembly about police numbers, about crime numbers. Can i call him lying or being a sort of smooth politician . And, you know, altering the facts to his own agenda because lying is a very strong word. Yeah. I think what youve just described is lying. And just described is lying. And when you say a failure, ask all the parents of all the young kids whove died from knife crime during his time running london. Okay, do you think that, mayor khan is a liar and indeed , mayor khan is a liar and indeed, a failure . I think he definitely isnt a failure. Id need evidence to show that where his lies come up before i accuse him of anything like that. History . Look at his history. Look at his. But thats not enough. Its got to be substantiated with facts. Facts. Yes, but his his history , his yes, but his his history, his claims about how many houses hes built in london are completely ripped apart by successive think tanks and academic groups. Its simply not true. Okay. And heres the crux of okay. And heres the crux of the matter, though, diana, a likely donald Trump Victory in november, as you suggested. Hes aheadin november, as you suggested. Hes ahead in the polls. Is that an argument that the tories can leverage for rishi sunak to, say, vote conservative at the next election and we will have a partnership between trump and sunak, a western alliance akin to that of thatcher and reagan. We wish that it could be a is that an opportunity for sunak to sell that vision of a partnership with america under the conservatives im not sure about that. The whole thing to me is such a confusing. Everybodys changing. Theyre telling lies, that changing the stories, im not sure. Im not convinced. Convinced. I mean, neil, if i was in number 10 advising the pm, i would certainly sell this idea of a partnership with trump. You know, vote tory, get trump dream team. Team. I think that, its see the front page already. Cant you see the front page . Of course. Absolutely. But the problem is just how discredited our political leaders are around the world. Does anybody want to be that involved in trump . In fact, you were quite right in your piece here. You know, look at his success with the economy and remember what term he who was it . I cant remember which one of them was. It said its about the economy, stupid. Yeah and its that that he will get a grip on again and, and the whole issue about sleepy joe and his lack of cognitive ability is a serious issue, briefly. Sigilla. Serious issue, briefly. Sigilla. Is it time whoever gets in, is it time to love bomb donald trump, given that hell likely be the leader of the free world by the end of the year . I dont think so. Not in my opinion, anyway. But whats the point in picking a criminal . Whats the point in picking a fight with somebody thats going to be very influential, leading a country thats the number one investor in the uk. You know, the thing is, like, its like labour, like we dont know where labour is going to start. But i think once they get in theyll sort their stuff out. Maybe trump might be different this time round. Who knows. Hiding in plain sight. Hiding in plain sight. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck with that. Good luck with that. How can you follow somebody who you really dont trust, his his record is so awful in so many aspects of life. Okay, well, listen, folks, let me tell you that the london mayor, sadiq khan, is not here to defend himself against those allegations of being a liar or perpetuating crime. But this show is all about opinions and a diversity of such. So let me know your thoughts on this. Is it time for britain to love bomb donald trump . And do you think rishi sunak should sell the idea that if you vote conservative in october or november , then trump october or november, then trump and sunak will be a dream team for the west . That is gbnews. Com yoursay but next up in the big story, after another bruising week for the bbc, and as an almighty roar breaks out over the corporations plan to put adverts on their podcasts, is it time to scrap the licence fee altogether . Well debate that now, let me tell you that, my response to the. Whats the big news this week . Of course, mayor khanin news this week . Of course, mayor khan in london has criticised donald trump, calling him a racist. Is the special relationship with america safe in labours hands . Should they in labours hands . Should they achieve power . Well, feelings are coming in thick and fast this from jim mark, i will not call you an idiot for your remarks , but trump is all that remarks, but trump is all that stands between us and oblivion. The current marxist government under obama is intent on the total destruction of the usa. I think , jim, implying there that think, jim, implying there that somehow obama has a significant influence on the white house and donald trump would eat sadiq khan for breakfast, just like hannibal lecter, says. David. Keep that to feed back. Coming gbnews. Com yoursay say. But its time now for the big story and another bumpy week for our National State broadcaster. As the bbcs biggest star, gary lineker faced criticism for describing the october the 7th attacks as the hamas thing, not least criticised on this very programme , whilst the foreign programme, whilst the foreign secretary, david cameron, again berated the corporation for not calling hamas terrorists. Calling hamas terrorists. Meanwhile, the bbcs plans to put adverts on their podcasts has been met with fury by some of the Biggest Media Companies in the country, who argue that this move will impact the Business Model of commercial operators. Now this is an operators. Now this is an interesting story. Companies like global, who own lbc, classic fm , capital and heart, classic fm, capital and heart, argue that the bbc already enjoys a huge advantage given that their services are funded to the tune of £3. 8 billion a yearin to the tune of £3. 8 billion a year in licence fee income. Now, year in licence fee income. Now, these radio stations have said that this move is outrageous and will distort the market. So is it time to call the bluff of the bbc and encourage more adverts and scrap the licence fee altogether . Lets put that to former bbc news producer turned director of news watch, david kaetheli david, thank you so much for joining kaetheli david, thank you so much forjoining us. Is it fair for the bbc to have adverts on their podcasts . Their podcasts . No, i dont think it is at all. And, the background to this is that the uk podcast market is one of the vibrant Success Stories of the last ten years in the media. Its grown , its the media. Its grown, its tripled in size over the last eight years, and its now worth 80 million. Now what the bbc is now planning to do. And sorry, i should say that in that it, in that growth is lots of Small Companies , lots of medium sized companies, lots of medium sized companies, lots of medium sized companies, some of the big players too, of course, but it is a classic example of the, the Market Driving , or meeting Market Driving, or meeting demand. Now, what the bbc are now trying to do is theyve already got podcasts on their output in bbc sounds and in, in segments like bbc ideas. But segments like bbc ideas. But what theyre saying is that if the bbc out, podcasts are used by streaming platforms such as spotify , which obviously are spotify, which obviously are youtube, the big players then theyre going to put adverts on there and that is leveraging the power of the bbc, the disproportionate power of the bbc and the market to get gain advantage in the commercial environment. Bbc sounds sorry, bbc studios, which is behind this. Not a lot of people are aware, is the commercial arm of the bbc. It is growing massively currently because its leveraging the overseas market and the overseas output of the bbc. But this is the invasion into the uk market of bbc studios. Bbc studios is now turning over 2. 1 billion a year, so its one of the biggest players in the uk market and what effectively it is doing is saying now were putting going to put our tanks on the lawn of this, this, this nascent podcast market, and we are going to become one of the big players in it. Well, it strikes me as very unfair on the commercial players. Now, david, the bbc lost over 400,000 licence fee payers in 2022 alone, with people consuming their content on the internet instead and ignonng on the internet instead and ignoring bbc output altogether. Do you think the licence fee is now dying . A slow death . Anyway, i do and for, separate reasons from whats going on in the podcast market. Although the intertwine the reason is that the bbc arent focusing on what the bbc or the British Public wants it is sectarian content. Now. It is highly biased content now aimed at only as certain segments of the audience. Theyve decided where their, views are on so many fronts in their output and theyre not responsive to change. They wont change the complaint system. They wont. They wont allow for, different opinions about what their output should be. And theyre not any more big innovators in their output. David is it is it fair to call the bbc biased . I mean, they get complaints from conservative supporters and labour supporters. Isnt that labour supporters. Isnt that proof theyre doing something right . I mean, the bbc is arguably the most trusted news gatherer on the planet. Gatherer on the planet. In recent surveys, only around 44 of the market believe the bbc is not biased. Yes, they do get complaints from all sides. But the point the point is that the research that has been done that is properly based shows that the bias is primarily one way, which is against against the, the broad right in, in our society , how bad do hamas in our society, how bad do hamas have to get before the bbc will call them terrorists . David. Thats a very good question. I dont know, they are a terrorist organisation officially in the uk. The bbc have got weasel words around it. Gary lineker, you showed that clip of him calling him, just almost glossing over what theyd done. And i think the bbc needs to take a very long, hard look at how they, theyre treating the israel gaza conflict , well the israel gaza conflict, well indeed. I the israel gaza conflict, well indeed. I mean, we talked about it on last nights show. The former director of television at the bbc, danny cohen , has called the bbc, danny cohen, has called the bbc, danny cohen, has called the corporation institutionally anti semitic. Now, of course, the bbc would deny that and argue that they work very hard to make sure that their output is balanced. They would cite the is balanced. They would cite the fact that they have many millions of happy viewers and listeners. David, stay with us. Lets bring my pundits into this. We have sajeela khurshid, diana moran and neil wallace , diana moran and neil wallace, neil, david, theyre suggesting that the licence fee is pretty much dying a slow death. Anyway, much dying a slow death. Anyway, the corporation needs around 3 or £4 billion to deliver the services it currently does. Whats the best way to pay for that . Do you think , i think its that . Do you think, i think its got a lot of problems because i think david is right, that it sort of dying from the death of a thousand cuts. And the problem is that it, the whole view of the licence fee is splitting in so many different ways because because of the, apparent bias in so many areas of the bbc from the main street norm. And so what you have here is a constant receding of support for the for the licensee. Personally, i still believe that bbc news is a force for good and that it provides a Great Service and needs to continue. However, it needs to continue. However, it wont continue like that when it continues as for instance, covering gaza the way it does. For instance , the way it covers for instance, the way it covers so many, news, ordinary news stories in the way that it does it needs to get its act together , i on reflection, i suspect david is right that the licence fee is struggling to draw breath. Now is the bbc dynamo, and is the bbc doing a good job . Is it worth almost £170 a year . And is the licence fee the right way to fund it . Well, the problem is with the bbc. Now of course i was bbc so i should be pro bbc. Is that they do appear to be biased. They do appear to be woke and therefore many people are turning over. Maybe to gb news, for example, to get , a more, for example, to get, a more, reasonable view of the news. And i do think that its unfair that if the bbc are going into advertising thing, well, then surely all of us who pay our licence fee should be getting very cross about that. Okay, perhaps theyve got to look within themselves at some of their top presenters and a certain man, beginning with l comes to my mind, and they should regulate that a lot more. Okay, but sajeela, the clocks against us. Your thoughts on this . Well , i thoughts on this . Well, i kind of agree with neil that i do think the bbc news is a force for good. I do think theyre reliable. And, think theyre reliable. And, weve talked about bias a lot on your show as well in the past, your show as well in the past, you know, every, every institution has a bias, you know. Hello, were in gb news. It has a right wing bias. I understand what youre saying as well , that, you know, it should well, that, you know, it should have a more. But if it has a bias, it has a bias. But i still rely on the news from that. However, the licensing fee, i just think is so dated it makes me so angry. I got one letter through to say that your licence fee needs renewing and then immediately got another one. A red letter saying that youre going to be under investigation unless you pay , and that that is unless you pay, and that that is not making me want to pay. I will when they really throw me a lot, but im not going to pay. Absolutely. Absolutely. David, ive only got a few seconds. Closing thoughts. Seconds. Closing thoughts. Sorry. Sorry. Well, i think i think absolutely this underlines that the days of the licence fee are numbered. I do wish the bbc would become more self reflective and really look at their own bias properly, which they have refused to do time and time again. They dont accept that they are biased, and there are many ways that my organisation has shown over the years that there are. Years that there are. David, thank you so much for joining. Joining us, david keeley is the director of news watch and a former top bbc news presenter himself. Dont forget at 10 00 it is my take. At ten, its harry and meghan. It is their six Year Anniversary this weekend. Was it a marriage made weekend. Was it a marriage made in heaven or hell . Well ill be giving my verdict at 10 00. But next up , ukip giving my verdict at 10 00. But next up, ukip have giving my verdict at 10 00. But next up , ukip have elected a new next up, ukip have elected a new leader and in a mark dolan tonight exclusive will be joined by the winner. Dont go now. Ukip. The party that sowed the seeds. For what would ultimately become brexit has elected its first woman leader. In the form of broadcaster and campaigner lois perry, the partys eighth leader since nigel farage won by more than three quarters of the vote. As she replaces the formidable neil hamilton. And in a mark dolan tonight exclusive, lois perry joins me now. Lois, joins me now. Lois, congratulations on your excellent win. Well, thank you. Well, thank you. Youre now the leader of the of the national party, which means youve got to give up your saturday nights to talk politics. No, i can think of nothing id rather do more. So thank you for having me. And you had me when i was a leadership contender. Yep. And here i am. And i am so excited. I really, and i am so excited. I really, really am. Were going to make ukip ukip and were going to were going to make britain great again. And were going to mop up all of those disaffected red wall voters. They dont want to go to labour, mark. They dont want necessarily to go to the other party, which is the Insurgent Party of process reform uk, perhaps, possibly because maybe they look, im going to be very careful with my words here. If nigel farage, my friend, was leader. Yeah. I wouldnt be sitting here. I wouldnt be sitting here. I wouldnt be sitting here. If wouldnt be sitting here. If he wouldnt be sitting here. I f he was the leader of reform uk, thered be no need for me and for what im doing. But there really, really is because a relatable leader, someone that can connect with disaffected tories and disaffected labour voters, is very, very, very much needed. So voters, is very, very, very much needed. So you feel that the current lack of dynamic leadership at the top of reform uk is, is therefore creating a sort of gap in the market that youre seeking to fill. Absolutely. And i mean, ive spoken to young people whove told me that they dont they dont want to vote tory. They dont want to vote tory. They dont want to vote tory. They dont want to vote labour. They really wanted to vote reform. They really, really did. But the hope not hate stuff capitulating to, communist bullies, they werent very impressed with that. So you want to come home . Youre impressed with nigel farage and hes a friend of yours. But i would sort of read between the lines and suggest youre sceptical about richard tice. His his approach as leader or actually his policies. Okay im going to tell you a little bit about my background. Okay . So basically i was brought up by my maternal grandparents. My father left my sister and i and my mum needed some support. Yeah my granddad owned an Electronics Factory. Yeah he employed over 100 staff. My yeah he employed over 100 staff. My dads mum worked on a production line in an Electronics Factory putting plugs together. Okay. I understand what its like. First hand to be entrepreneurial. The pitfalls, the slings and arrows of having your own business. But also how bloody hard it is to be working. Working class. I have experience of both. Ive been the lady of the house in a fully staffed mansion, and ive lived in social housing. Ive had dinner with kings and princes and politicians, but ive also only had a tenner to put petrol in the car. Sounds like an exhausting day. It is an exhausting day. It is an exhausting day. But im not saying that its got to do with richard tice. Im just saying you do not have to be the living embodiment of the Rudyard Kipling if poem, if you know to actually be a good leader. But it does help if you have experience of real life on both sides and people relate to it. Not always. Boris johnson, Winston Churchill are notable exceptions, but i just feel that people want to come home to ukip. I know they do because i talk to people all the time. So what is ukip for . Essentially sowed the seeds for brexit and were now out. So hasnt its main function disappeared . Well, no. No absolutely not. Because we need independence from various things. We need, we need to be energy independent. We need to be self sufficient with our food. We need to be independent and be able our values. I always say that ukip now has always been, but especially now, is about values. Especially now, is about values. So whereas in the past theres been some stuff that weve put behind us, this is a fresh start. Okay. What do you want to put behind you . I think that there was there was some times in the past where you had people that were on the extreme right, that infiltrated the party. They they were got rid of. And weve had brilliant leadership. He steadied the ship leadership. He steadied the ship in the last few years. But you want to get rid of the sort of the racists and the swivel eyed loons. Swivel eyed loons. Well, the thing is, the nutjobs, the cranks, the those far right people are already saying, oh, theyve got a woke leader in shes politically correct. Shes this because i said, theres no place for racism or anti semitism in any party. Youve got rid, you get rid of the numpties, the window lickers. Lickers. Theres no window lickers in in ukip. I can assure you , but in ukip. I can assure you, but its about values. It really, really is. So values. So thats, really is. So values. So thats, democracy, freedom of speech. Democracy, freedom of speech. Its about king and country. Its about king and country. Its about king and country. Its about being personally autonomous, personally responsible. Its about all of those things. If you share our values, it doesnt matter what religion you are or background, you are welcome in ukip and we will fight for you. If youve got ukip versus reform and some of the other smaller parties isnt isnt well, isnt the right consuming itself. I mean, wouldnt the best thing for you to do to go and have a boozy lunch with richard tice richard tice sort out your differences. Out your differences. Hes not interested in cooperating. Well, i mean, look at maloney. She she basically italian Prime Minister. Absolutely. She was doing she shes like shes like an italian. Lois perry. If anyones watching. Right. Yeah, im a little bit thinner. Anyway. But, you know, she was doing quite. She was doing okay, but not that great. And then she thought, right, we need to collaborate. We need to work with the other parties. We are open to working with other parties on even labour or the or the tories or reform or when they share our values. And we will not put candidates up against people that share our values. That would be totally counter productive to do that. Yeah. So but not Everyone Wants to collaborate or Work Together and can we go rapid fire now . Just a few seconds. Go on. You want to be the enemy of uncontrolled Mass Immigration . Yes we certainly need to stop the boats. I think most people think that. Yeah. Whats an appropriate number for legal net migration annually . Well, i think that the boats are a little bit smoke and mirrors. Actually, to be honest, i think that we need to look at the no go areas and the imported conflicts that weve brought in that are already in the United Kingdom. And we use Specialist Task forces , police task forces. Task forces, police task forces. So you would you would stop the boats. But what about legal net migration . I mean, youre already a politician not answering the question. I tell answering the question. I tell you whats a good figure . I think that we should have we should have a cap, but were in the process of actually working out our policies on everything. Ive been in the post three days. So youre working on a caps, a figure that will be negotiated . Absolutely a couple of other quick ones. You will be the enemy of the woke mind virus. Yes we will. So thats the whole gender nonsense. Yes. Whole gender nonsense. Yes. Thats all of the playing anti trans. No, not at all. Not anti trans. No, not at all. Not not for adults. But they shouldnt be allowed into into womens spaces. Absolutely. Womens sport. Womens spaces. Absolutely. Womens sport. Absolutely. But womens sport. Absolutely. But but with children, leave those kids alone. Okay. Last thing is, is Ukip Islamophobic . No, not at all. Muslims are anyone who shares our values of democracy, free speech, king and country , patriotism, the rule of country, patriotism, the rule of law are welcome in the party. But radical islamism or radical forms of any religion . Actually, no, no no no. 110, [10 [10 ho. No, no no no. Lois perry, thank you for coming and seeing us. Congratulations on the job, which im sure youll do in a very energetic and entertaining way. Thank you very much and have a great election. I do hope youll be a key contributor to mark dolan tonight in the months ahead. Id love that. Id love that. Brilliant stuff. Of course, i want to hear from all of the main parties in the run up to the election labour, tories, lib dem, green, you name it, dont forget at 10 00, harry and meghan, their sixth wedding anniversary. My verdict. But next up, my mark meets guest is the author of a shocking book about the rise of adolf hitler. Next. Harry and meghan celebrate six years of marriage. My verdict in my take at ten. First, this. My take at ten. First, this. Its time for mark meats. And tonight , the author of a tonight, the author of a compelling book about the rise of adolf hitler. Award compelling book about the rise of adolf hitler. Award winning historian thomas weber has written becoming hitler the making of a nazi. Its out now. Making of a nazi. Its out now. Thomas weber, thank you so much for joining us. The book forjoining us. The book examines hitlers time in munich. Between 1918 and 1926, long before the war. Why was this penod before the war. Why was this period so formative . Thank you so much for having me. I think it was so formative, because this was really a time in which , hitler thought in in which, hitler thought in german, thought that the world was at crisis, that they really needed to figure out how germany could be made. Great. Again and at that moment in time, hitler was really trying to figure out how the world functions. And so how the world functions. And so it is really it was really in the aftermath of the First World War that he asked himself, why is it that germany lost the war, and how do we need to remake germany in order so that germany can survive in a new world of superpowers . And was he right wing or was he left wing . Was he a socialist, a conservative . Do we know about his politics . When hitler came home from the war, he was really kind of adrift. He was really trying to find a new political home. Initially, during the revolution, he cooperated with left wing groups. He served the munich soviet republic, which was a radical, left wing, group, and, but then, he after this was put. To an end, he became an put. To an end, he became an informer and switched sides. And informer and switched sides. And it was really in the summer of 1919 that he had his political awakening when he realised with the punitive versailles treaty that germany really had lost the war. And it is really then when he was searching for answers, and it is then that he kind of switched from being open to left wing ideas to being more open to more radical right wing ideas, not so much traditional conservative ideas, but a kind of right wing collectivism , and of right wing collectivism, and do we know much about his personality and makeup at this time . Was he an angry person . Was he ranting and raving, or was he more thoughtful in this penod was he more thoughtful in this period . Penod . I penod . I think a little bit of both. I mean, i think we should in a way. I think its a fallacy that we have got this image of hitler constantly raging. Its very constantly raging. Its very convenient to think of hitler as always, the kind of person who we see in some hitler documentary. But thats the hitler from the kind of last five or 10s of a of a two hour speech where after two hours it kind of is a crescendo. Hes really getting shouting and spitting. But thats not how even later in his life, how he spoke to, behind the scenes, where he was generally described as quite, thoughtful and as quite winning. And but after the quite winning. And but after the First World War, hitler was really kind of initially he wasnt really functioning socially. He was kind of a loner. And then in a kind of very weird way , he suddenly very weird way, he suddenly finds an audience and suddenly everyone sees in him, a future leader. While during the war, even his Commanding Officers didnt think is see any Leadership Qualities in him. Did he start out with good intentions, or was there always poison at the heart of his project . There certainly was project . There certainly was always poison at the heart of his , project. His, project. I mean, the but i still think we should kind of try to understand hitler and the way we have got to really get into his head and rather than to think of him as just somehow just being a raging lunatic who is just full of hatred, weve got to understand why hes doing what he is doing. And this goes back to what i said a minute ago. Hes really trying to understand the underlying reasons for germanys weakness after world war i. And then he kind of identifies , the supposedly identifies, the supposedly pernicious influence of jews as being weakening germany and insufficient territory in manpower, as making sure that germany cannot survive in this world of, superpowers. So his intention was to, to, to make his country structurally strong again. So you could say in that sense, there is an element of good intention. But of course, it was immediately, then directed against jews and others in a kind of proto genocide, proto genocidal way. And that proto genocidal way. And that was, of course, anything but good. How and why did he become this monster . Did he have a personality disorder . Did something happened to him earlier in life that caused him to have no empathy . I mean, this was murder on an industrial scale. Eventually its an excellent question, but its in a way we still dont know the answer. I mean, we know that he always had difficulties having normal social interact actions. He always had difficulty speaking on the same level. He could function, really only in hierarchies, either looking up to people and following orders or giving orders. So in in a way there is something very strange about his, his, his his personality. And theres also this kind of weird episode of a missing year before world war one where we dont really know what happened dunng dont really know what happened during that time. And he didnt even want to talk to his closest associate to what happened there. So it seems that something traumatic happened there. Whether or not that is helps us to understand the men helps us to understand the men he became is difficult to tell. If we can only speculate what happened during that year, thomas weber, a privilege to have you on the program. My have you on the program. My thanks to Award Winning historian thomas weber, whose book about hitler is called hitler the making of a nazi, compelling reading. Its out now. Fascinating stuff. Next up , now. Fascinating stuff. Next up, my take at ten harry and meghan. Six years on the verdict. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. Hello welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office into sunday. 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The queen of us royal reporting live from the United States. A packed show , United States. A packed show, lots to get through. Harry and meghan the verdict after the headunes meghan the verdict after the headlines with gb news royalty sophia wenzler. Mark, thank you from the gb newsroom at 10 00. Your top story this hour. The Israeli Military says its recovered another body today after the bodies of three israeli hostages were recovered from gaza on friday. It comes as a member of israels three man war cabinet, benny gantz, has threatened to resign from the government if it does not adopt a new plan for the war in gaza. Israel says it believes 100 hostages are still alive. Their families of hostages have been holding a News Conference in tel aviv, calling for their return. The war must be stopped at once and the hostages must be rescued. War cabinet members stop the expansion of the rafah operation and secure a hostage release deal. Now our family members are being raped in captivity. They are being starved and tortured. Why do you allow netanyahu to continue sabotaging the hostage release deal negotiations . Why release deal negotiations . Why do you remain silent in the face of his actions . Why do you not come out and tell the public, as galant has done, how netanyahu tirelessly takes action to sabotage the hostage release deal . In other news, thousands of people can now safely drink their tap water again following a parasite outbreak. South west water has today reduced the boil water notice in the brixham area following all clear test results. 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Plus, find out why king charles is reportedly angrier than hes ever been in the company of the queen of us royal reporting Kinsey Schofield. But we start with my take at ten. Happy anniversary harry and meghan. What a journey its been meghan. What a journey its been for the sussexes since tying the knot six years ago this weekend. Knot six years ago this weekend. Their wedding on saturday, the 19th of may 2018 was the event and party of the year with thousands of adoring fans lining the streets to wave flags , wish the streets to wave flags, wish the streets to wave flags, wish the couple well and hopefully to grab a glimpse of harry in his uniform and to see meghans radiant smile. The wedding was radiant smile. The wedding was one of the most watched Television Events of the year two, with millions glued to the. Two, with millions glued to the. Action here at home and billions watching globally now, the sussexes would have you believe that somehow the press had it for in them. And in particular, meghan, let me tell you the opposite was the case. Friends of mine in fleet street have told me that at the time they saw meghan as the new diana, they salivated at the prospect of how many newspapers and magazines her radiant face would sell. She was considered, in fact , far more bankable than fact, far more bankable than catherine at the time , and the catherine at the time, and the headunes catherine at the time, and the headlines about their nuptials were similarly glowing. The mail were similarly glowing. The mail said a magically modern royal wedding. The look of love, said the express. The sun newspaper. The express. The sun newspaper. Shes the one. How about this from the times. Shes the one. How about this from the times. Welcome to the from the times. Welcome to the family with a wonderful message to meghans beautiful and elegant mother, doria and the sun on sunday. History nicely done. So where did it all go wrong . Well, when you buy a car, wrong . Well, when you buy a car, you check the tyres and the engine oil. When you buy a company, you look at the Balance Sheets and when you embark on marriage, you think carefully about the implications for the rest of your life. Something rest of your life. Something that Meghan Markle, in my view, did not do. Now shes an impressive person and her story is one of unbridled ambition and ruthless social climbing. From a glamour girl on a tv game show to the television legal drama suits via a high flying producer husband who ultimately bit the dust like so many in her life, including her friends lizzie cundy, piers morgan and even her own father thomas, meghans story is one of ascendancy and the pursuit of fame , power and the pursuit of fame, power and money, which is why you have to wonder whether it wasnt only love and attraction that drew her to this millionaire prince. The son of the future king of the United Kingdom. Now, im the United Kingdom. Now, im impressed by Meghan Markle and what shes achieved in her life. Good luck to her. But its my view that poor old prince harry was a sitting duck to her wider plans for global domination. I dont think she ever really intended to maintain a public royal role. It doesnt take long for the opening of hospital wings, listening to the bagpipes, watching soldiers on manoeuvres, eating cucumber sandwiches and the endless smell of fresh paint to lose its lustre. Its my view that almost from day one, once shed bagged her prince, the plan was to dump those royal duties, exit the monarchy, exit the royal family and exit britain. I have no and exit britain. I have no proof of that other than it happened after all, harry reportedly told organisers in the run up to the wedding. What meghan wants mega gets Meghan Markle has her fans. I dont think its been easy for her. The press have probably overcorrect hard and are now too harsh and like ive said, she is an unstoppable force. But lets look at the facts. Since she arrived in harrys life , he has arrived in harrys life, he has fallen out with his father, his brother, his stepmother and his sister in law and hes fallen out with his country. He was once more popular than Queen Elizabeth herself. He has lost titles, privileges, honours, gongs, plaudits, medals and duties. He might still be the duke of sussex , but now hes duke of sussex, but now hes a commoner reliant on spilling the beans about his family and his country. In podcasts , on tv country. In podcasts, on tv shows and in best selling autobiographies , harrys life autobiographies, harrys life and innermost secrets have been sold to the highest bidder. Just this week , Prince William and this week, Prince William and king charles are reportedly raging with anger. Charles, the angriest anyone has ever seen him about the sussexes trip to nigeria , which insiders say nigeria, which insiders say deliberately looked like an official royal trip. Which is why its my sad assessment that Meghan Markle is the worst thing possible that could have happened to prince harry. Six years on, poor old harry looks like an accessory to his misses a useful tool lesser marriage and more a hostage situation. Poor old harry californias answer to terry waite i hope im wrong now. I sparked controversy last weekend and broke the internet by saying that britain and the king should forgive prince harry and bring him back into the fold. Well, that wasnt everyones cup of tea, but for that to happen, two things would need to occur. Harry would need to apologise and meghan, sadly, would need to be out of the picture. Now, i dont want this royal couple to split. I dont want to see any marriage end. Want to see any marriage end. Theyve got two beautiful kids who are the priority. But the who are the priority. But the sad truth is that whilst she remains in his life, i dont see a way back for the prodigal prince. Theyll have peace in the middle east before this mess is sorted out. It may be harry and meghans six Year Anniversary, but its far from a happy one. Your reaction gb news. Com forward slash your say. Ill get to your opinions in just a moment. But first, tonights top pundits former executive editor of the news of the world. Fleet streets finest neil wallis , comedian and neil wallis, comedian and broadcaster sir gila curci and the Green Goddess herself, tv personality diana moran. Well, personality diana moran. Well, cecilia curci six years on, harry and meghan a marriage made in heaven or a marriage made in hell . Well, its a bit of heaven and hell, i think. And i kind of agreed with you that it was going really started really well , the public loved her, you know, they were like a little fairy tale. I kind of preferred their wedding to , you know, to their wedding to, you know, to william. And although i did like william. And although i did like william and kates as well, i dont i think we kind of are getting away with you last week that i think the king should forgive him. And meghan and make up. I mean, all families fall out. Theyre like any other family , but theyre not like any family, but theyre not like any other family because they are the, you know , king and queen, the, you know, king and queen, etc, i think things started going wrong. Many things. They going wrong. Many things. They didnt put her as an actress on the website and the royal website. So they erased, erased website. So they erased, erased a big part of her life , which a big part of her life, which she is a feminist. Im a feminist and that would really annoy me because, like, shes a person in her own right, then there was all the problems with her family, which everybody seems to praise her father and sister, but the father was just bleating on, you know, trying to get a bit of the action. And the sister that she never seemed that close to was, you know, coming out with dirt. So there was that kind of scandal and then it progressively got worse. And i think she was unhappy because she is her own woman, i like kate, but kate was kind of really wants it. After university, they met. She was geared for that role, whereas she did have a life before this , she did have a life before this, i think. Just leave them alone. Just let them get on with their own life. I think were really own life. I think were really overly obsessed with them in this country , especially her and this country, especially her and i dont. I find that uncomfortable. Uncomfortable. Well, of course i would argue they are feeding the monster with the podcasts, the netflix Tv Documentaries and the autobiographies. Neil wallis, youve been writing about the royals for decades. I dont want the sussexes to split, but i think its a bitter truth that as long as meghan remains in harrys life, reconciliation with the king, with his brother and with the country is impossible. I think thats probably true. I think this week was very illustrative, actually, when you saw the sussexes in, in africa, in nigeria , there is what you in nigeria, there is what you saw as the core of the problem. Meghan wants to. Be the star. Meghan wants to. Be the star. She came here and thought she would be the star, but she then quite quickly realised they were always going to be the support cast , her and always going to be the support cast, her and harry, and i think that was the big shocker for her. And then i think she set out to change it quite consciously, and i think that its almost impossible to get back from there. Please give us our privacy, they plead while they write yet another best seller, another podcast , another seller, another podcast, another smiling for the tour. I think in one of the days in nigeria, she went through Something Like five different outfits costing thousands of pounds. Who paid for all that . Well, one of the for all that . Well, one of the stories in the paper today, for instance , said all the travel instance, said all the travel arrangements were effectively paid by a Nigerian Airline that got lots of free publicity out of it. Now you cant carry on like this. The truth of the matter is, i cant believe that charles really wants to be alienated from his own son. I simply dont believe that. I think he would love for there to be a way back. I think that the sussex is have made it impossible to come back. And i dont think that meghan gives a monkeys about that. She just doesnt care. Shes happy setting the agenda , making her setting the agenda, making her own rules. And harry just sits there and im sorry , hes not there and im sorry, hes not really bright enough to understand the mess hes got himself in. Okay, diana moran , are we okay, diana moran, are we being harsh on Meghan Markle after after all, prince harry is big enough, old enough and ugly enough to make his own decisions , were being harsh with both of them, meghan in particular, because i think she thought she was going to be the princess. And having become the princess, she wanted everything on her terms. And she was not going to go through the royal, approach that has been there for years and years. I think its such a shame. I was a huge fan of harry. I was there at the launch of the Invictus Games and i watched him with soldiers and people. Hes got such a lovely manner about him. Meghan, i was thinking was going to be wonderful because she was of mixed race and it was going to be very in keeping with our modern world. But shes a social climber and shes absolutely damaged. The royal family with the podcasts , with the book. The podcasts, with the book. Well, harrys book, of course, and then of course, this trip to nigeria as well, where she has absolutely revelled in it , absolutely revelled in it, thought she was the princess again , as a mother of two sons, again, as a mother of two sons, i know father and son relationships. I would love to relationships. I would love to see the king with harry again, but i dont think its going to happen. Well folks , your reaction well folks, your reaction gbnews. Com yoursay plus, tomorrows sunday papers are on the way. And for more reaction to my take a ton ten, i should say, and reflections on the sussexes six year wedding anniversary Kinsey Schofield live from the United States. Plus, why is king charles reportedly angrier than hes ever been . Find out ever been . Find out next. Well, six years on from their wedding. Was Meghan Markle the worst thing that could have happened to prince harry . That was the topic of my take attend. The opinions are coming in thick and fast. Gbnews. Com yoursay diana says mark, we dont want ehhen diana says mark, we dont want either. Harry or meghan coming back to the uk. Meghan thinks shes royalty and it seems its going to start arranging her own royal tours like nigeria, if they do another so called royal toun they do another so called royal tour, hopefully the king will strip them of all titles. Adrian, who is a gb news member, says i would love king charles and harry to be close again. And harry to be close again. Its not going to happen so im finished with it. Concentrate on the royal family that we have here. Dont report on those two. Ill get some more of your opinions. Very shortly. But folks, it is time now for more on this. In the company of the queen of american showbiz and royal reporting Kinsey Schofield. Hey kinsey, great to see you, first of all, your reaction to my take at ten, although i find , Meghan Markle although i find, Meghan Markle an impressive person, i think shes the worst thing that could have happened to prince harry. Whats your view . I mean, i think he would disagree with you because she gave him two beautiful babies in the long run, i do believe hes going to regret the way that everything unfolded. But you have two beautiful boys. You have two beautiful boys. You know how much that those those children mean to you and how they changed your life. And i imagine that while prince harrys life is increasingly more difficult, this is a man thats having to learn how to pay thats having to learn how to pay his own phone bill for the first time. I imagine that, you know, the idea of these two children have have improved his life. Life. Well, i think thats a very fair point. As i mentioned in the take at ten, the kids are the take at ten, the kids are the priority. But he may come to the priority. But he may come to rue the day she ever stepped into his life time will tell. Kinsey, can we talk about this nigerian trip . I understand its caused a storm in the palace. I mean, well, where do we begin . What mark . Where do we even begin . Theres a new article. This is from the daily article. This is from the daily beast, and its titled harry and meghan playing rival royals is palace nightmare. And theyre exploring the just the diplomatic issues associated with harry and meghans rogue royal pursuits. One former courtier telling the publication overseas visits might look like jollies , but they are actually a jollies, but they are actually a matter of foreign policy. They are all about promoting the uk and building diplomatic and uk relations, trade alliances , and relations, trade alliances, and thats on behalf of the government itself. Harry and meghan have different priorities. You and i know exactly what those priorities are. Theyre headlines and cash and freebies. You know, they got and freebies. You know, they got to keep all the gifts they received on this trip to nigeria. Typical royals cant do those things , and another those things, and another report, this is coming from tom quinn to the mirror saying that the king is absolutely furious over this, the angriest anyone has ever seen them. Although my sources are telling me the diplomatic argument is very valid. But the palace expects the government to step in to deal with that, to shut them down. And we kind of saw that with with people coming out saying they are not representing the uk, but i dont believe that Prince William or the king are sitting around stewing about this trip because they know more about harry and meghan than we know. I mean, they have access to that. That palace bullying report. And its my understanding that they think that the more the sussexes put themselves out there, the more themselves out there, the more the world is going to see them for who they truly are. And its, you know, a ticking time bomb, youre going to get more of these online or youre going to get more of these allegations of bullying. Meghans going to continue to be show up late for appearances or dress inappropriately, and the world will see them for who they truly are, lets talk now about controversy around their nigerian host. Tell me more. Well, this is another example of why the royal family is like, okay, guys, good luck, prince harry and meghan were welcomed to nigeria by a fugitive wanted in the United States over a 20 million Money Laundering scheme. You cannot make this up. According to the daily mail. Doctor allen nima was among a small group of people who greeted h m when they landed in nigeria, and hes the founder and the ceo of air peace. Its and the ceo of air peace. Its a nigerian carrier that the sussexes actually used on their three day tour. Now this individual is the subject of a us federal indictment filed back in november 2019. Hes charged with bank fraud and Money Laundering. He moved more than 20 million from nigeria through the United States , some of his the United States, some of his Bank Accounts in atlanta. It involved the scheme, false documents based on purchases of aeroplanes , as cnn reports, that aeroplanes, as cnn reports, that he allegedly used the laundered money to buy lexuses, rolls royces, mercedes designer goods, louis vuitton, prada. Hes apparently been deported from the us twice. He denies those allegations, but it looks like harry and meghan are endorsing him by associating with him. And that is what the with him. And that is what the type of stuff the palace would have helped them navigate, avoid. Yes, and i hear that Prince Andrew is very keen to meet this chap. But listen, lets talk about a musical icon. Don mclean, a great singer songwriter, of course, famous for many hits including american pie and. Hes pretty concerned by some of prince harrys comments in his book spare. Whats the story . I mean, i think the general takeaway from this hes defending elvis, which i can get behind that. But i think the general takeaway is mclean saying that prince harry just doesnt get america. And hes probably right. Doesnt get america. And hes probably right. All weve seen probably right. All weve seen prince harry do since hes moved over here is try to change it. And those efforts have been unwelcome. But he was talking unwelcome. But he was talking about harrys criticism of elvis and graceland in the book spare wear. And basically don said , wear. And basically don said, harry doesnt understand that elvis is like a poor mans king. Americas king. He came from nowhere. Hes, you know, obviously hes a very talented music artist, but he came from nothing and turned himself into something. And americans really admire that. You know, he called prince harry this hothouse orchid a show horse who never did a thing. So don is really challenging prince harry about his elvis criticism. His elvis criticism. Last but not least, Jennifer Lopez and ben affleck. Is there trouble in paradise . Trouble in paradise . I know that this keeps you up at night. Mark. I know ben affleck seen with no ring. Hes been living separately from Jennifer Lopez for a few weeks now. He moved out of their 60 million Beverly Hills mansion that they bought last year, according to tmz, and is in a rental home out of brentwood. There are these new divorce rumours Jennifer Lopezs 20 million money like, completely ego driven amazon movies. They blew up in her face critically, totally panned. And then shes having to cancel a lot of concert dates because shes not moving a lot of tickets. So its a tough, tough time for Jennifer Lopez, and i hope that they dont break up. I like i like this couple. They i tolerate them well. Definitely. Theyre both very definitely. Theyre both very attractive. Lets hope they can make some babies and make the world a more beautiful place. Kinsey, you make mark dolan tonight more beautiful place. Well see you in a weeks time. My well see you in a weeks time. My thanks to Kinsey Schofield. Check out her brilliant podcast, to die for, daly and her website of the same name. Next up, of the same name. Next up, tomorrows sunday papers with full pundit reactions. See you okay. Josh, its 1030. Lets do it. The sunday papers. Hot off it. The sunday papers. Hot off the press, courtesy of producer ben. And the press, courtesy of producer ben. And weve got the observer here. Archbishop of canterbury urges starmer to ditch the cruel two child benefit cap hunts. Two child benefit cap hunts. Jeremy hunt told to honour pledge on infected blood payments. The mail on sunday payments. The mail on sunday next cuts leave the uk with just one plane for paris. D day jump up and harry and con man nigeria king twice deported from the us. Thats what happens when you organise your own quasi royal trips. Sunday mirror now tina malone exclusive. My paul took malone exclusive. My paul took his own life. Im heartbroken tv star tina malone has revealed that her army veteran husband committed suicide. Very, very sad story. There the sunday express now companies told end this woke madness a top cabinet minister tonight told woke bosses to stop lecturing people and get back to delivering great goods and services. Business secretary Kemi Badenoch accused firms of wasting too much time on political gestures and activism, which can turn off potential customers. The potential customers. The telegraph now labour will tell nhs staff to work weekend as wes streeting vows to protect whistleblowers and cut a reliance on migrants in a new health care plan. Fever pitch health care plan. Fever pitch rishi sunak, the Prime Minister, celebrates southampton reaching the championship play off final with his parents at saint marys stadium , russia and china stadium, russia and china manipulating uk voters with social media war is the other story and courts may scrap culturally insensitive barrister wigs and the daily star. Sunday. Englands euro hopes to be dashed by slimy croakers three lions versus the frogs. Englands euro 24 bound players have been warned that rowdy german frogs could keep them awake this summer. The amphibians are causing a right. Ribbit next to the acs luxurious hotel. Its enough to make Gareth Southgate hopping mad. There we are. Well, when we mad. There we are. Well, when we win the euros, all the other nafions win the euros, all the other nations will be green with envy. Ooh, now im here all week. Try the liver. Lets have a look at all of these stories in the company of my top pundits this evening, former executive editor of the news of the world, fleet streets finest, neil wallis , streets finest, neil wallis, comedian and broadcaster sajeela kersh, whos put in a double shift tonight. Thank you, sir, you cant have too much of the st giles and model and tv personality diana moran. Thats right. The Green Goddess herself, radiant in yellow today. Lots of stories to get through. And how about this one . Sajeela the archbishop of canterbury urges the government urges actually not just the government, but the incoming, potentially new Prime Minister, keir starmer, to ditch the two child benefit cap. Now, this is a new policy introduced by the tories which labour are going to keep, in which you dont get any further benefits if you go beyond two children. Well, its becoming a bit china. We were just talking about china, werent we . Yes. I can only have two children. At least they had. Yeah, they had one. But we can have one. A girl and a boy. You do you need any more . Do you need any more than two i dont know. Well i think my grandmother these days, but yes, my grandmother, 14, but you know, they didnt have tv then. Then weve got tv, weve got the internet. Theres no excuse to have more than two children these days, what do i think of that . I think these days, what do i think of that . I think only having the one child i think thats that seems. Its amazing. I think we all just relate everything to ourselves. But i think thats. Well, isnt the point isnt the idea that if you want to have 3 or 4 children, youve got to youve got to afford it and that youve got to afford it and that you cant just decide, im going to have loads of children and someone else will pick up the bill. Yeah, thats where i do have a little bit of a problem. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. I mean, what do you think about this . But many would argue that its heartless sort of stopping at two because what youre going to have is child poverty. Children going hungry. Diana, the thing you said it just then, if youre going to have children, then you should be able to afford to look after those children that youre going to have not expect the state to be looking after them. Of course, not all children are planned, are they . Perhaps people should be a little more thoughtful. Theres little more thoughtful. Theres plenty of ways contraception out there, ways were all taught about it. Yeah, well, they are indeed. Yeah, well, they are indeed. Teacher used to say the best protection of all is to say no. Girls thats it. But you cant say no to neil wallis, whos with us tonight on the sofa. Neil, listen, this is the sofa. Neil, listen, this is the archbishop of canterbury once again wading into politics. Is this beyond his pay grade . Is this beyond his pay grade . This is my real take of this story yet again. The archbishop of canterbury, who is presiding over the collapse of the church of england, spending his time with wading into social issues when his church is falling apart behind them. Im an active christian. I, attend, church every week and the distance between, welby and the ordinary person in the pews is simply massive. Hes got a lot of issues to sort out in the church of england. Him getting involved in this. The Biggest Issue about this is that it could lead to a call for the church of england to be disestablished, as in, why on earth do are those guys there in the house of lords being able to vote to have their say theyre there because thats a tradition of this country. But if he wades into big political issues like this, when hes got a heck of a lot on his own plate, that he ought to be tackling it becomes very hard to justify. And of course, this is a man whos been outspoken in his criticism of the rwanda plan , criticism of the rwanda plan, but hes a man whos outspoken essentially on anything to do thatis essentially on anything to do that is right of centre. That is right of centre. He, makes virtually no pretence at being anything other than pro labour and an awful lot of his, the people who go to his churches dont think that. And hes alienating very successfully a huge part of the congregation of the church of england. Well, but out i mean, diana moran, of course, will be supporters would argue that this comes from a place of empathy. He is a christian. Hes obviously a cleric in a leadership role, and hes concerned about children going hungry, being destitute and child poverty, inequality. Many would argue that is a christian issue. Yes. And i can see exactly what youre saying there. And yes, those are christian issues and those are christian issues and those are christian issues and those are innocent children who would be going hungry and all the rest of it. But i do agree with you. What do you think, sajeela, about senior clerics being political . Okay, so i think hed be better put to use, as would all religious leaders , to actually religious leaders, to actually educate families or people in because people just have children willy nilly and they just think, well, you know, thats fine. They just come because gods sort of sent them. And, you know, that was meant to be born. But just sort of consider, well, look, if you have one child, this is whats going to cost you along the way. If you have two, this is how it increases. How will you pay for this . How will this work out . What are your future plans to pay what are your future plans to pay for these children . If youve got a, you know, a wife whos working, will that bring in another, you know, so those conversations arent happening. But the church and the religious kind of organisations could be having those conversations to educate people into the expense of children, which i dont think a lot of people really do, consider because they just have children, because they want them. Theyre not accessories , them. Theyre not accessories, you know, you got to pay for them. You got to educate them. You got to put them to college, school, whatever, and youve got to feed them. Most importantly , to feed them. Most importantly, sunday express sajeela companies told by Kemi Badenoch who i think will be a future Prime Minister end this woke madness. A cabinet minister tears into bosses over diversity drive. She bosses over diversity drive. She argues that sort of activism in corporations is a turn off for many customers. What do you many customers. What do you think about this . Youve seen the halifax with pronoun badges. The halifax with pronoun badges. Youve got Civil Servants with a rainbow lanyard. Ed, is there rainbow lanyard. Ed, is there too much politics in the workplace , yeah, because its an workplace, yeah, because its an environmentally unfriendly. All environmentally unfriendly. All those lanyards are plastic. All that stuff thats being used. You know, personally. Look, this is the problem is supply and demand. So, yes, there are lots demand. So, yes, there are lots of things going on, you know, diversity and all of that. And a lot of it is for good. You know, theyit lot of it is for good. You know, they it should be, but its the pubuc they it should be, but its the public that are also demanding it. And thats why i so i dont think its, i dont think its just a one sided thing. But i do think its unnecessary. Weve gone too far. We can just say we can be inclusive without having to do every single thing for every like adhd is the latest big thing, you know, youve got to include everybody. So everybody thinks theyve got a most performers , as you know, most performers, as you know, weve all got adhd to a certain degree. You need to apparently you dont have to be mad to work here, but it helps. Yes, it does. Yeah. Exactly. So i mean, i just think its everything in moderation. I think thats it. Everything in moderation. Now, the list of the most popular baby names in the uk has been released for boys. The number one for the second year running is noah, while olivia takes top spot for girls. Harry, very sadly and i dont know why, has dropped out of the top ten for the first time in two decades. Strange that there you go and the name meghan is being used less for baby girls. Less for baby girls. I can see a trend here. Charles has dropped out of the top 100. Poor old king charles. Doesit top 100. Poor old king charles. Does it matter what names you give your children . Diana . Oh , of course it matters. You oh, of course it matters. You have to think very hard before the child is christened. And either its a family thing or. Yes, it really matters. Were you named after somebody . Where did 7 where did diana come from. Where did diana come from. The goddess . Well, no, i have the goddess . Well, no, i have no idea. Quite right too. Quite right too. I have no idea. I have no idea. Well, you went on to become the Green Goddess, neil, any idea why you were called neil . Apart from the fact that its a very fine name, apart from the fact its a very fine name, what more do you need . Yeah, it was a great uncle neil or anything like that. Neil armstrong. No, as far as im aware, i didnt have any great uncle. There you go. Uncle. There you go. Not. Not to my knowledge. Not. Not to my knowledge. There you go, sir. Sheila, theres a problem with entertainers giving their children ridiculous names like mine. Moon. Moon. Moon. Moon unit, i think, was the name of. Name of. Yeah. Yeah. Dweezil, frank. Frank zappas child. Dweezil. Is that right, child. Dweezil. Is that right, peach . I child. Dweezil. Is that right, peach . I think weve had orange peach . I think weve had orange peach and peaches is okay. I thought that was quite cute. Yeah, but apple , apple. Cute. Yeah, but apple, apple. The coldplay singer chris martin and grammy paltrow. Which apple though do you know . I mean, so many apples you could have named it. What is orange pippin . What is orange pippin . Yeah, a pippin. Yeah, there you go. But these names, i mean , but these names, i mean, noah, thats a decent name, isnt it . Really . Its neutral. It wont get you bullied in the classroom. No, not at all. No, not at all. Glad. Glad to hear it. Fantastic stuff. Well, listen, lots more to come , including lots more to come, including more front pages. And let me tell you , well be joined by the tell you, well be joined by the former editor of the mirror, paul connew. Why . Well, because paul connew. Why . Well, because mps are resorting to extreme measures to get re elected. Find out how and why next. Well, good for her. Well, good for her. Welcome back. Weve got more front pages , and lets have a front pages, and lets have a look at the sunday telegraph. Look at the sunday telegraph. And they lead with tainted blood. Is the worst scandal of my lifetime. It is time for my lifetime. It is time for justice, vows jeremy hunt. The justice, vows jeremy hunt. The chancellor has pledged to fulfil his promise to a dying victim of the contaminated blood scandal. As the government prepares to unveil a compensation package for those caught in the worst treatment disaster in nhs history. Also, second class post could be cut in half after royal mail buyout. Okay, those are your front pages. Lets now your front pages. Lets now speak to the former editor of the sunday mirror, paul connew, who i used to work with in my early radio days as well. Paul, great to see you, mps are going to rather extraordinary lengths to rather extraordinary lengths to get re elected. Injections tell me more. Tell me more. When this story popped up on my mail on sunday feed, i thought i checked my watch to make sure it wasnt april the 1st, but, apparently a couple of, contenders for the future post election leadership of the tory party have been taking this one so called wonder drug as a ozempic, which apparently provides a sudden and drastic weight loss, including one whos supposed to have collapsed on the floor of a bar in the commons, and with medics having to be called and i mean, that doesnt sound like ozempic surreal. That sounds like blue nun. But anyway, thats another story. Why are these mps trying to get slim . To get slim . Apparently because they are planning to , if the election is planning to, if the election is lost, which the opinion polls suggest it will be, they will, of course, be a contest for the, future leadership of the tory party. If the tory party is survives in its in its current form. Im presuming these are male contenders rather than female, but it isnt quite specific from from the story, but seemingly they think theyre a little too chubby. So it should be more streamlined to be fit because term, rishi sunak successor, well, paul, you definitely dont need the ozempic. Youre as fit as a butchers dog. Lets bring my pundits in. If we can. Paul, weve got sajeela, khurshid, diana moran, and neil wallace. Diana, do you think i mean, of course you are. The Green Goddess, health guru, fitness and nutrition expert. Do you think its important that our politicians are lean and slim . I think its important that everybody is as lean and slim as they can be. And certainly people who are there in the pubuc people who are there in the public eye. Yes they should. They should look after themselves. What do you think, diana . What do you think, diana . Diana, as an expert on these fitness and nutrition, what do you make of these injections . Is that the answer . Do you welcome this New Invention . This New Invention . Well, im told that they work. So thats something. But im also told that they cost an awful lot of money. And the moment you dont use them, the weight comes back. Unless of course, youve changed your habits. Yes, neil wallace will britain ever elect a fat Prime Minister again . Minister again . I hope not, why . I hope not, why . Boris johnson isnt that fattest . Fattest . Well, it might be fattest, but its, diana makes a very good point. Really, our political leaders are, public figures, examples to us in every way. And the tory party had a Party Chairman not that long ago who was quite simply enormous. And i used to it did occur to me that hes actually if you believe in the sort of nhs, you would think, why arent you following it . But the important matter is really what these drugs can do is you can get you down to a, a size whereby you can change your lifestyle and you can maintain that. But changing the lifestyle is what m atters. Matters. Okay. What do you think . Okay. What do you think . Sajeela. Oh okay. Sajeela. Oh okay. So, firstly, like theyre failing us in every other aspect. So really looking trim up to the elections is hardly going to cut it. Its not going to make any difference. And us, to make any difference. And us, make us i can never say that. Name a mess that rempe. Yeah, yeah. Is name a mess that rempe. Yeah, yeah. Is for diabetes and ive got type 2 diabetes and im actually waiting to get some. And its either that or you get the gastric which, which can reduce the insulin as well. Its known to reduce insulin and it disgusts me that if politicians are using it for , for just are using it for, for just vanhy are using it for, for just vanity sake, really like , stop vanity sake, really like, stop it, youre not pop stars. Youre supposed to be leading this country right . Try and find another way. Dont use up suppues another way. Dont use up supplies that are supposed to be going to people who actually needit. Need it. And now, paul connew an unwelcome headline in the sunday times. Rishi sunak overtakes king charles, in terms of wealth, this is the sunday times. Rich list 2024. Could that be politically damaging . That be politically damaging . I think its very tricky. I think its one, accolade if you call it an accolade and the sunday times rich list that rishi sunak would probably wouldnt like to be heavily publicised , which of course it publicised, which of course it is. It is being when you when youre the Prime Minister lagging behind in the polls , lagging behind in the polls, although hes a very slim Prime Minister, but hes been increasingly slimmer majority, he , he really hes now richer he, he really hes now richer than king charles, according to the sunday times rich list, which isnt good when youre fighting an election with the cost of living crisis at the at the top of it of the agenda. When your wife until not so long ago was was a was a non dom beneficiary. I think this one beneficiary. I think this one wont play well on the doorstep. Wont play well on the doorstep. And the and the tories at the moment need, need people on the doorstep, reacting positively rather than negatively. And i think this will only up the negative count. Negative count. Do you think about this poll that, do you think essentially sunakis that, do you think essentially sunak is too rich now to win the next election . Could it be a next election . Could it be a decisive factor . I dont think it will be the i think to an extent his wealth is accounted for in the public mind, although this will remind them. But and itll be interesting to see whether whether labour target target his wealth. Theyve done it at times , at pmqs starmer has alluded to it, hes out of touch, etc. I think it, i think it is damaging for sunak, but there are plenty of other things damaging to sunak. But i do in a new book. Im a co author of out in july on previewing the general election. We do look at the at election. We do look at the at his wealth and how much that is. A is a is a negative , and, and a is a is a negative, and, and i think, i think he would rather not have been figuring in this in this list. I mean , yeah, his in this list. I mean, yeah, his wealth went went up about 150 million in the last 12 months. The time when over this parliament, the standard of living of the average brit has gone to down a record on a record low. Okay. Well, yeah , i mean, okay. Well, yeah, i mean, its interesting. You must come and see us and tell us about the book in july when it comes out. Paul. Diana moran, does it matter that the Prime Minister is rich . I think that it puts a bit of a divide between him and us, the ordinary people. I have to admire him because as we were talking about earlier, he is a self made man. So you have to admire him for that. But nevertheless, too much money, i think. Could it does it in my mind. It puts a divide a couple of seconds on this one. Neil, how do the tories , you know, do the tories, you know, airbrush this problem away . Is there a solution . What can they what can they say to make it better. Very difficult. I think its an easy stick to hit him with the truth is he is a self made man. Hes a very, very clever businessman. And you just have to take the back story about being , you know, the son of a of being, you know, the son of a of a chemist in southampton. Yeah. Thats it. Yeah. Thats it. Yeah. Thats it. I think hes a Great British success story. Hes a wonderful british success story. Youre absolutely right, paul, listen. Thank you so much forjoining us. Well catch up with you soon. Paul connew, thank you to suella, neil and diana. Most importantly, you for your company at home and on the radio, on tv. Were back tomorrow at nine. Headliners is next. Heres the weather with catherine. That warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news. Hello welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office into sunday. Well see showers easing , but its going showers easing, but its going to be a murky start before plenty of warm sunshine in so High Pressure. Situated out towards the west , low pressure towards the west, low pressure further towards the east and in between. Not too much going on. A lot of light winds around so the showers that weve seen today across wales and parts of the south west will generally fade, especially across scotland as well. But elsewhere plenty of dry weather, clear spells. But we will see low cloud returning for parts of scotland and the south east of england, but otherwise temperatures holding up at around 10 or 11 degrees in the towns and cities. So to the towns and cities. So to start on sunday, its going to be a murky start for some of us with low cloud, mist and fog, especially for parts of the south east of england and east anglia. Further towards the west, though, plenty of bright skies to start the day , and that skies to start the day, and that transferring across parts of wales and the north of england , wales and the north of england, but across scotland especially further east, you go a lot of cloud to start the day, with low cloud to start the day, with low cloud lingering across those coastal regions and further towards the north. Cloud thick enough, thick enough for some patchy rain and drizzle. So patchy rain and drizzle. So throughout the rest of sunday any low cloud, mist and fog should generally lift and break away to leave plenty of sunshine on offer for most of us, it will stay rather cloudy across parts of scotland , and here we could of scotland, and here we could see a few showers and especially across that northeastern coast. Once again feeling cool here with low cloud but in the sunshine, temperatures recovering nicely up to 24, possibly 25 degrees. Monday is a similar picture to start with. Well see plenty of low cloud, mist and fog around, but once again that should break away, leaving plenty of sunshine a dry day on offer for most of us. Well see some showers developing, but as we go into tuesday and wednesday, turning more unsettled with showers or perhaps even some longer spells of rain , looks like things are of rain, looks like things are heating up. Boxt boiler showers. Sponsors of weather on gb news. Good evening. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. Your top story at 11 00. The Israeli Military says its recovered another body today after the bodies of three israeli hostages were recovered from gaza on friday. It comes as a member of israels three man war cabinet, benny gantz , has threatened to benny gantz, has threatened to resign from the government if it does not adopt a new plan for the war in gaza. Israel says it believes 100 hostages are still alive. Their families of hostages have been holding a News Conference in tel aviv calling for their return. The war must be stopped at once and the hostages must be rescued. War cabinet members rescued. War cabinet members stop the expansion of the rafah operation and secure a hostage release deal now. Our family members are being raped in captivity. They are being starved and tortured. Why being starved and tortured. Why do you allow netanyahu to continue sabotaging the hostage release deal negotiations . Why do you