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GBN Patrick July 3, 2024

Blair 2. 0 as his six pledges get pred blair 2. 0 as his six pledges get ripped to shreds. On my panel tonight, its telegraph columnist allison pearson, lord shaun bailey and ex labour advisor matthew laza. And what does this german politician do next . Yeah, yeah. All right, get ready. Britain. Here we go. Suella braverman takes on the Palestine Protesters. Next. Palestine protesters. Next. Patrick. Thank you. And as youve just been hearing, Cambridge University has announced it will host this weeks graduation lie ins elsewhere as a pro palestine protest camp remains outside the venue. Its hosted ceremonies since the 18th century. Protesters pitched tents on a lawn outside senate house yesterday, with graduation ceremonies due to take place there tomorrow and on saturday. But the University Says its taken the difficult decision to hold the event at an undisclosed alternative location. Gb news alternative location. Gb news were there earlier. Patrick and the team as former home secretary Suella Braverman visited the cambridge for palestines encampment today on kings parade as she attempted to talk to activists about the protests. Sir keir starmer has protests. Sir keir starmer has told gb news therell be no tax cuts under a Labour Government until the economy is back on the path to growth. The labour leader says that while he wants to keep the tax burden as low as possible, he also wants to ensure that Living Standards improve. He said british people deserve to know that future generations will enjoy better opportunities. His. But he says opportunities. His. But he says that can only be achieved with tangible steps after we, have said we will raise taxes, weve set out what we will raise and what well spend the money on. So what you did hear this morning is that were going to get rid of the tax break for private schools and use that money for the teachers we need in our state secondary schools. We did here is were going to get rid of the non dom status properly and use that money towards reducing or reducing waiting lists. The tax burden on people is as high as its ever been under this government, you know, this has been the tax rising government of all time. Thousands of households in devon have been told to boil their water before drinking it for another week after a parasite was found in a key reservoir. The Uk Health Security Agency says 22 people are confirmed to have become sick and as many as 70 other cases of diarrhoea and vomiting are under investigation. The tory mp for totnes and south devon criticised south west water for what he said was slow and poor communication. The company has apologised for the outbreak and has offered £100 of compensation to those affected , compensation to those affected, and britain has asked china to push for an end to russias war in ukraine. As Vladimir Putin visits beijing, the russian president was greeted by xi jinping with full military honours for their third meeting in just over a year. It comes less than a week after russia launched a new offensive in North Eastern ukraine. China has long been suspected of supporting russias economy and its invasion of ukraine. For the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Now its back to. Patrick. Back to. Patrick. Welcome along to a bumper show today, former home secretary Suella Braverman confronted the cambridge probe. Confronted the cambridge probe. Palestine protesters. They, along with other student movements, stand accused of peddung movements, stand accused of peddling anti semitism on campus, intimidating jewish students, fostering extremism and behaving like fascists. They are seen as the radical student wing of what Suella Braverman famously called the hate marches that take place every weekend. Suella explained why she wanted to look these cambridge protesters in the eye. We are having a slightly rainy cambridge. Why have you decided cambridge. Why have you decided that you wanted to come today . Well, patrick, im very interested in this whole phenomenon that weve seen both in the us and here in the uk of protesters, pro Palestinian Protesters, pro Palestinian Protesters , the encampments and protesters, the encampments and the, militant tactics that certain protesters are taking to make their point. And weve seen in recent weeks encampments sprung up at oxford and cambridge and other universities around the United Kingdom , of particular relevance kingdom, of particular relevance to me is that i was over 20 years ago, a student here at the fantastic university of cambridge. Were just outside my old college, Queens College , old college, Queens College, and so its a bit of a trip down memory lane for me. You know, when i was 18, it was so exciting, daunting , and the exciting, daunting, and the biggest honour of my life to get into cambridge. My parents hadnt into cambridge. My parents hadnt had the privilege to go to university as an 18 year olds, and it was the biggest, the biggest privilege for our family. And i remember coming family. And i remember coming here, it was a bit of a wide eyed, naive young girl, and i had a wonderful experience here at cambridge. And, you know, its a great teaching environment. Its supposed to foster discussion, exploration of ideas, respect , freedom of of ideas, respect, freedom of thought. But of ideas, respect, freedom of thought. But it of ideas, respect, freedom of thought. But it feels now what thought. But it feels now what were seeing on campus here at cambridge is a certain kind of thuggery , intimidation and thuggery, intimidation and harassment whereby one group is allowed a megaphone , to blast allowed a megaphone, to blast out abusive messaging , and out abusive messaging, and another group just has to shut up and put up. Yeah and what are you actually hoping for from today, then . So at some point, were going to head down there and try to engage a bit with the people who have been camping out. Now what in an ideal world, what happens . Listen, im really genuinely interested in what these people think, ive been very vocal over the last six months about my views, both as home secretary and subsequently the acts of october 7 by hamas were brutal and murderous, and that israel has a legitimate right to defend itself and its military action in gaza is justified legally and actually , morally. I went out to actually, morally. I went out to israel last month to meet survivors of october the 7th, senior military and political figures in israel, and i have my husband is jewish. I should declare that i have an interest in in the issue personally, but i also am genuinely interested in what the other side of the debate says. And weve seen these marches, weve seen people feel very strongly about, rightly, the civilian deaths in gaza. Every civilian death, whether its arab or israeli, is a tragedy. We dont want civilians to die, weve seen a lot of people feel very strongly about this conflict, and i am genuinely interested in what people who are taking to these encampments think and feel where they get their information from and what their justification is. Yeah. Yeah. So its a bit of a fact finding mission, i suppose, really, isnt it . And hopefully we can have some kind of dialogue and some kind of discussion with them and answer some of those questions. I mean, theyre never going to have a better chance. Are they really to, you know, see somebody like yourself. Youve presented yourself. Youve presented yourself here. So hopefully they do take that opportunity. And some people do feel quite intimidated by these encampments. Clearly not. You listen, im im not im not shrinking violet. I think you could say im someone. You know, i see being elected to parliament as a privilege. People put their trust in me to go to parliament, and they expect a level of courage and bravery on their behalf. And i want to inquire. I want to find out. I want to question , i want out. I want to question, i want to engage in a reasonable and rational and respectful way with people who might disagree with me. Thats the essence of a free and Democratic Society. And if we cant do that in britain, then were in a really worrying state. Yeah, do you worry, then, that there has been a certain decline, maybe since the time that you were here . When we see that there have been to a few of these kind of things and theres a bit of shouting, theres not always the biggest desire to engage. Are you worried that weve maybe lost that a bit as a society . Do you think . I do fear that . I think we get a polarisation of views, we get a polarisation of views, we get an entrenchment of views and then we actually get extremism as well. You know, weve got a really big problem in this country, as ive coined it, mass extremism on our streets. Weve seen through these marches not everybody on these marches, but a large number of people engage in anti semitism, racism, intimidation , thuggery, intimidation, thuggery, harassment, and members of the Jewish Community feel terrified. In the uk in the 21st century. And that makes me ashamed to be british. We shouldnt be living in a country where certain groups feel scared to go out into the streets and go about their daily business, and just before we head over there now there is some school of thought that say that people like the police or Certain University authorities should have done a bit more to move some of these people along. Actually, the visible presence allows something to grow, allows something to fester, and you know, it can make things worse. Where would you stand on that . Listen, i agree and support the right to peaceful protest. I support people in exercising their right to do that peacefully. What i object to is when that , expression crosses when that, expression crosses a line into to racism, intimidation and criminal behaviour. Intimidation and criminal behaviour. And i think when youve got, jewish students feeling intimidated, not feeling able to express their views or express their faith , then weve express their faith, then weve got a real problem and weve got a climate of fear. And the University Authorities need to step in and discipline and stop, Unacceptable Behaviour. Yeah. And just lastly, actually, before we move along, they make lists of demands like they make lists of demands like the universities need to divest from anything thats kind of israel related, really , theres israel related, really, theres talk of them doing things like interrupting, graduate ceremonies and things like that as well. I mean, what do you think the universities should just stand firm and not give into the demands like this . Really absolutely. We cant have a minority. Minority group dictate the views of the majority. And, a big institution in the United Kingdom, which is partially taxpayer funded as well. So, you know, this is, universities shouldnt take political positions. Theyre not here to indoctrinate. Theyre not here to be vehicles of political campaigns and the divestment, demands and the boycotting demands and the boycotting demands are anti semitism, pure and simple. And in no circumstance should any public institution, any state institution, any state institution , engage in that kind institution, engage in that kind of activity. Do you do you think that there is a lot of anti semitism out camps like this then particularly . Well, this is what i want to go and see. You know, thats my observation that there are there are elements of antisemitic behaviour, for example, chanting from the river to the sea is, to my mind , an anti semitic chant. My mind, an anti semitic chant. Its calling for the eradication of israel. Its calling, therefore, for the eradication of jewish people. Thats a call of jewish people. Thats a call for genocide. That is anti semitic and, you know, a lot of people chant that unwittingly. They dont really know which river theyre talking about, which sea theyre talking about, which sea theyre talking about, or what it actually means. Some people chant it knowingly. Im really interested to see what thats all about, whats happening here . Well, should we should we find out . Lets go. All right. Find out . Lets go. All right. Okay. All right. What are we . What are we . Were middle of may. I dont know if its exams, which is also even more like staggering. Shouldnt they be, like, hold up in the library studying for their exams . Well, i mean, yeah, exactly. They should they should be ready, shouldnt them . But, i think theres some talk of graduation ceremonies coming up as well soon, which they think they are trying to disrupt. But since i spoke to ola braverman there just before we went into there just before we went into the encampment, the university unfortunately, has given him. They have given in to some of their demands , or they have their demands, or they have certainly given in to some of those people in tents, and theyve decided to move their Graduation Ceremony from where it should be, where it has been for centuries. Ive decided to move it to a different location. What youre going to see over the course of this show is the kind of people who are at these protests, the kind of people who organise these protests, and the kind of people really, who actually universities and other institutions are giving in to. But i want to get the reaction now from the editor of the communist of the rcp and former student at the university of cambridge, adam booth. Adam, thank you very, very much. What is the link between communism and some of the people who are at these encampments and hamas . At these encampments and hamas . I dont think theres any link between communism and hamas and the protesters , the and the protesters, the protesters that youve got in the student protests across the uk at the moment are there as was as as was even said in your clip with suella were are there to protest against divestment, i. E. Against university funds, you know, tuition fees, the students tuition fees, the rents, taxpayers money going to fund genocide in gaza via Arms Companies like by via banks that are investing in Israeli Companies that thats what the students are protesting about. Can i put something to you, adam . Because because were going to were going to see a lot later. And, you know, ive been to quite a few of these now, and i do put it to you that actually a lot of people there arent students, arent they . And i think, you know, that i think that maybe you had hoped that people from the revolutionary communist party, etc. Will put a few tents up and would kick start other students, and youd get quite a big rebellion. But in reality it is just a lot of people sitting in tents, Wearing Masks in the rain, begging for vegan food. Isnt it . Well, i dont know what the dietary requirements are of camping in these things, so i cant comment on the veganism or otherwise. But as i said, theres these protests have been sparked by a movement thats going across the whole globe at the moment, sparked by something that happened in Columbia University in the us, where which faced brutal repression from the state authorities there and that has spread across to the uk. Because why . Because the uk. Because why . Because just as in the us, weve got a regime here, the tories, that are complicit in genocide and yeah, that has sparked actually a mass movement. Youve had hundreds of students involved in these protests at all these students, adam, are they students . Well , the students are well, the students are explicitly calling for workers to join in with these because students actually recognise that whilst they can be a spark for bigger movements, actually what is needed is precisely the university workers, the lecturers and the other staff to come in and support these protests as well to shut down the campuses as theyre the ones with the power to prevent these University Bosses from bringing big business onto campus and actually kicking imperialism off campus and putting students and staff in control of universities. Theyre so proud of their cause. Why are they covering their faces . Well, i think weve seen a lot of smearing and a lot of intimidation and a lot of repression of students and workers on pro palestine protests. Since october the 7th, many of my own comrades in the revolutionary communist party have had their faces splashed all over twitter by the met police. Theyve been harangued, threatened that theyre going to be pulled out of their beds at night by the met police just for attending peaceful protests in support of palestine. So i dont blame students for having a bit of fear that people like Suella Braverman, who used to be home secretary and the current home secretary, are going to use similarly brutal, repressive measures to try and intimidate students and other protesters in support of palestine. Okay. And presumably , okay. And presumably, presumably, you know, these people who feel so strongly about their cause, who have such passion and have the history on their side and what they are doing, their actions will echo throughout eternity. Okay. Those people, when presented with somebody like Suella Braverman, should engage with that person. Should they should they should they say, should they give them a piece of their mind . Should they have the mental fortitude to debate and outwit that person from behind the mask . Well, i dont think Suella Braverman is exactly a worthy champion that requires them to get out of their tents and debater, to be honest, shes someone whos out there, to be frank, to be troll. Shes a troll. Hes there to smear the protesters as anti semitic, which is completely hypocritical coming from someone who daily wakes up racism against muslims and other races and other ethnic minorities. So youve got a minorities. So youve got a racist government, a racist tory mp coming and accusing students of racism completely falsely. Why should they debate someone whos not willing to debate on honest terms . Thats reall

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