And ill be joined by a particularly High Powered Panel this evening. The former adviser to Boris Johnson, lord ranger and the historian and broadcaster tessa dunlop. As always , as you know, i want to always, as you know, i want to hear from you. Its a crucial part of the programme. Email me part of the programme. Email me mailmogg gbnews. Com. But now its what youve all been waiting for. The news bulletin with tatiana sanchez. With tatiana sanchez. Jacob. Thank you. The top stories this hour. Slovakias Prime Minister is in a Critical Condition and is still undergoing surgery after he was shot following a government meeting in handlova, outside the capital bratislava. Officials capital bratislava. Officials could be seen bundling robert ipso into a car shortly after the attacker shot five shots in the attacker shot five shots in the assassination attempt. Mr feet. So was airlifted to hospital. One man feet. So was airlifted to hospital. One man has been detained by authorities. Mr feet. So one power for a fourth time last october and is implemented more pro russian policies. Hes pledged to stop military support for ukraine and threaten to veto the countrys membership in nato. Slovakias interior minister says they believe the attacker had political motivation. New political motivation. New proposals could see schools in england banned from teaching students about gender identity. Students about gender identity. Vie. The governments review would also see all Sex Education halted for children under the age of nine. The Prime Minister ordered the review last year amid concerns some children were being exposed to inappropriate content, reports suggest parents will be provided samples of Sex Education content before lessons take place. Emergency measures take place. Emergency measures are now in place across england to deal with overcrowded prisons. It means defendants in Police Custody will remain there and will not be transferred to courts for bail hearings. The labour leader used todays Prime Ministers questions to reference a report saying high risk prisoners are being let out up to 70 days early without sufficient planning , police sufficient planning, police could make more use of existing stop and search powers as part of new measures to tackle knife crime. The searches were curbed. A decade ago by then home secretary theresa may, after it was found minorities were being disproportionately targeted. Disproportionately targeted. £55 disproportionately targeted. £35 million will disproportionately targeted. £3. 5 million will be invested into developing new technology, which could help police detect suspects carrying knives by scanning them from a distance , scanning them from a distance, and more food parcels were handed out over the past year than ever before. The Trussell Trust says it donated more than 3 million emergency packages in the year to the end of march , as the year to the end of march, as the year to the end of march, as the cost of living puts more households under strain. More households under strain. More than a million of those were for children, and the overall total has almost doubled in just five years. The trust is calling on the government to tackle long term deficiencies in the welfare system. And for the latest system. And for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. Or you can code on your screen. Or you can go to gb news. Common alerts now its back to. Jacob. Its back to. Jacob. Welcome back to state of the nafion welcome back to state of the nation. My suggestion of a tory nation. My suggestion of a tory reform electoral pact is picking up a little bit of steam. Heres a reminder of what i had to say last night. Help of nigel farage in a conservative government as a conservative minister, with bofis a conservative minister, with Boris Johnson probably returning as foreign secretary and welcoming the likes of ben habib and richard tice into our party, as well as pursuing genuinely conservative policies, winning the next election suddenly becomes within reach. Well, this was the response of the policing minister, chris philp, when asked about my suggestion. I didnt see that suggestion from from jacob, who the Prime Minister brings into the government is up to him. My job is to is to fight crime and support the police, and thats what im busy doing. But it didnt take long. Rather bizarrely, for the liberal democrats to call for my suspension from the conservative party while calling for a strategy to help my party win the next election would constitute grounds for suspension isnt entirely clear. Probably the lib dems are frit, to use lady thatchers word of so powerful and electoral force, but without indulging in the electoral woes of the lib dems any further, i would like to reassert my suggestion that this plan is the clearest road map to an electoral victory for toryism. The reform uk electoral contract is fundamentally conservative. It appeals to conservative. It appeals to conservative voters and members, and there is an overlap which suggests that we ought to be working together. Top of reforms priorities cutting government waste, slashing net migration, stopping the boats and boosting the economy. These are all policies that belong in the conservative party. If the parties remain separate, this could hand a victory to labour on a plate. And although there are some matters between reform and the conservatives on which we disagree, not many actually all Political Parties are coalitions. And theres far more on which we do agree, including, i would hope, a desire to keep the socialists out of power. A Labour Government would do the opposite of what the electorate wants. Its popularity in the polls is a sign of a desire for change, not support for its policies. Labour would not stop the boats. Its plan is a non plan that was recently revealed to be a copy of what the government has already doing. It would not cut mass migration. Indeed, mass migration derives from new labours ideology. Labour would surrender sovereignty to the office of budget responsibility. We could practice, say goodbye to the prospect of tax cuts or meaningfully endeavouring to grow the economy. It would double down on the lunacy of net zero, spending an extra £100 billion on decarbonising the grid by 2030, just to make us cold and poor. It would have even more wokery, as its pledged to expand the equality act with a new race equality act. All of the problems we see in modern britain mass migration, small boats, public sector, wokery, esg, economic stagnation, statism, the list goes on would be increased by socialism and this needs to be stopped. So the answer is for the conservatives and reform to reunite the tory family. Now heres what nigel said last night when he was asked about it by Patrick Christys we say. But, jacob, were a bit of supertramp, their top track is called dreamer , and its just called dreamer, and its just not. Itsjust called dreamer, and its just not. Its just not going to happen because rishi is not bold and he has no leadership whatsoever. This will not happen. Even though jacob thinks its a frightfully good idea. Well, i will do my best to have dreams, but i know little about vagrancy. But politicians about vagrancy. But politicians need to have dreams for a greater, better, more successful country. One of the things thats so dispiriting about modern politics is the lack of a dream, a vision , a foresight for dream, a vision, a foresight for where our nation should go. And where our nation should go. And i want that to be a conservative vision, not a managerial vision. As ever. Let me know your thoughts. Mar a lago gb news. Com im joined now by the man himself. Com im joined now by the man himself. Soon i hope to be a conservative member of parliament and cabinet minister, the one and only nigel farage. Jacob. Thank you. Well for both of us and particularly for you , this has never actually you, this has never actually been about office. Its about ideas and its about how you make this country as strong as it deserves to be. Yes, i was, i never entered politics for a career. Far from politics for a career. Far from it. I gave a career up to do politics indeed, as you did in many ways. Look, ive said for years that Jacob Rees Mogg and i should be in the same party. Its always seemed ridiculous to me that we were in different Political Parties, because you and i think alike on many, not everything, but many, many issues. And fundamentally, you know, were patriotic. We believe in borders. We believe in sovereignty. We believe in the little man and woman being given half a chance to go out and create businesses and do their own thing. So were at one on this. The problem here is twofold. Firstly, i, i think you underestimate the level of contempt that is felt for the conservative party especially post 2019. It is a sense of betrayal. And the big one is immigration. The the, the sheer scale of change that is happening in our communities. You think blair was bad. 7 try this for size. Try this for size. The conservative party allowed more people to settle in this country in 2022 and 2023 than came from 1066 to 2010. I know it was 1. 4 million net in two years. It is an astonishing no gross 2. 7, but okay, but net 1. 4. Remember, net is a lot of british people retiring to spain or moving abroad. Its also students going home and things like that. But the numbers are stunning. I agree, the numbers are stunning, and i think that brexit voters, and particularly the ukip type brexit voters who for the first time in their lives voted conservative in 2019, they feel an absolute sense of betrayal. Thats the first problem that makes any pact of any kind unlikely to win it. You know, if it was possible , it might mitigate the level of disaster. But the other problem is this i can sit and chat with you about these things and i you know, ive got other friends on your wing of the conservative party who we campaign with in brexit and everything else. You are jacob. Not amongst the members, not amongst the voters, but within the parliamentary party. You are outnumbered three or 4 to 1. You do not represent the centre of gravity of the current conservative parliamentary party, the thing that seems to me to mitigate against all of this is that if you were to be a leading figure within the conservative party, there would be absolute reassurance that at last we were serious about migration. You serious about migration. You could not be in a conservative cabinet that wasnt doing it properly, unless we were continuing the con on the british people. But then you wouldnt do it. 7 no, i wouldnt do it. That in terms of the parliamentary party, dare i say that most members of parliament, of all parties actually want to win their seat at the next election . I think the number who are, avowedly pro european and resent the brexit result is actually quite small and that if the Prime Minister were to take a lead on this now, that may be a lead on this now, that may be a big if there is a real opportunity because its where the nation is. You see, you said we should both be in the same party. And i think if we were both in the same party, what we are offering to the electorate is what a plurality of voters want. It would win a majority. Well, the difference would then be implemented. The difference is im in a party, albeit honorary president , that i agree with. Youre in a party that you disagree with. Well, i agree with all the members of the concerned. But you disagree with policies elements you disagree with net zero. You disagree with what theyve done on legal migration. You disagree with legal migration, im glad to say, is being changed. And we are getting that under control. Absolutely no evidence to support that whatsoever. There has been ive been hearing this for the last two years, but i think some of the changes last yean think some of the changes last year, the boats are still coming. The boats are up 20 this year so far. Absolutely. Accept that, in terms of net zero, weve got to delay net zero indefinitely. It is a failed policy. Jacob. Jacob, thats your view. Jacob, thats your view. Absolutely right. But its an increasing view amongst conservative because its not working. And the conservative party, how would you sum up the last 14 years of conservative government. You know, marks out of ten. What would you say, jake . Well, there are different penods well, there are different periods and different bits, but we got the referendum to leave the european union. The biggest, not something the conservatives wanted to do. They were forced to do it from the outside. The conservative members and voters wanted it though. Yeah. And you see, i think its trusting the people. Is the heart of the politics, the new and i represent that. The combined wisdom of the electorate is greater than that of whitehall and of the palace of whitehall and of the palace of westminster. The people wanted brexit. And actually, for all sorts of criticisms, you would like to make of him, David Cameron gave us the referendum. He was willing to trust the people. He may have hated the result scared out of his life of what ukip was doing to his vote. He was scared of defections happening. He didnt want to do it. He never wanted to do it, and then we had a period where your party gave us a Prime Minister that frankly, wilfully tried to vandalise it. I mean, youve got to accept, jacob, that the record is just there are problems with the apart from brexit, apart from brexit, there are definitely problems with brexit. What is your record in 14 . Well, i think Ian Duncan Smith did a great deal with reform of welfare. And i think that Michael Goves reforms of education, which are still yielding fruit 14 years on, were tremendously important. So there are big things that have been done. Are big things that have been done. Employment is higher than done. Employment is higher than its ever been. Pretty much. Its ever been. Pretty much. So are people opting out of employment and living on benefits . Thats absolutely right. Theres no that is that is no. That is no point. You and i arguing about policy. But we want we want to change that. My point is this. My point is this a Prime Minister in rishi sunak, perfectly decent man, intelligent man, a man that puts bnngs intelligent man, a man that puts brings back David Cameron. What . As foreign secretary is not even going to contemplate talking to richard tice , what would it take richard tice, what would it take for you to come back to the tory party a tory party, a tory . So we want the same thing a tory party, not a not the old school tory party but the radical new form of conservatism that embraces people from all classes yields the promises of brexit and, and, and actually gives the people of this country half a chance and is unashamed about about putting the british people before international agreements. Yes. Yes. And is proud of our history of course, all of those things. And i think were miles away from that at this moment in time, you say, i think the majority of conservative members are there, the majority of conservative voters. Oh, i agree, and we just need i agree coalition together, you know. And it has i came to your conference, i came to your conference. You were mobbed. You know, i was mobbed by my conservative activists, donors, members. But most of your most of your colleagues walked past me and turn their heads to the side. Well, i certainly didnt. Were almost there. We are getting we are getting a huge progress being made with me and nigel negotiating how to get a tory party. That is as tory as can be. I tory party. That is as tory as can be. I will be continuing the discussion regarding my proposals for a tory reform electoral pact a little later. Plus, could we finally be seeing an end to gender ideology in schools . Well, im still Jacob Rees Mogg, as you probably know by now. And joining me to react to my proposal is a former labour spokesman and political commentator, james mathewson, as well as my panel, former adviser to Boris Johnson, lord ranger and the historian and broadcaster tessa dunlop, james, thank you very much for coming in. This would terrify the labour party, wouldnt it . I think terrify is a strong word , and i think some might word, and i think some might even be inspired, perhaps by the conversation you just had with nigel farage, because it didnt show much agreement. I would say show much agreement. I would say the one thing i would say that was if i can, you know , be be was if i can, you know, be be bold for a moment, jacob, is that it almost looked like nigel held all the cards. And i think from a labour perspective thats a very, very positive thing. But labours been moving as far and as fast to the right as it can, even taking their old Natalie Elphicke into its fold. If we actually took the ground where voters are and the popular policies that reform and the conservatives agree on, labour would suddenly find a very different game , there would it different game, there would it would be a challenge. I think youre absolutely right. And this is why the Natalie Elphicke care situation is concerned many people, because the other conversation with somebody today in parliament who said that the smarter thing would have been to say behind the scenes, come on in, well have you and then at the last minute say no, the values we dont agree. And thats the political games that should have been played or that they hope should have been played because so many people now have to defend Natalie Elphicke and theyre automatically aligned with her, and theyre finding that quite difficult. But its interesting because its reminded all Political Parties are coalitions and therefore if you wish to win elections, you have to unite your side of politics in one party, recognising that that is a coalition. If you divide it, as labour found with the sdp, youre out of for office a long time. Yeah, this is the concern and the coalition for labour is in so many different directions. Youve got a north south divide, youve