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Now, this, Sex Education guidance is due to be published tomorrow. But as always happens, it seems to have been leaked almost in its entirety to the press. And theres lots of different rules. So under 19 is complete ban on Sex Education. Theyre allowed to talk about under nines. Under nines. Sorry a complete ban on Sex Education. Apart from talking about nice things like families and, being nice to each other and having respect and all that, whats the most controversial thing, i guessis most controversial thing, i guess is a overall ban on teaching gender ideology, or essentially that you can change your gender . Yeah, i suppose some critics are saying that this is going to be over interpreted, and that schools are sort of going to tear books out of libraries and not not be able to say that transgender people exist, because some schools back in the days of section 28, when you werent allowed to teach that gay people existed or you werent allowed to teach lgbt issues , schools over interpreted issues, schools over interpreted that so they wouldnt run foul of the law. And you had sort of broad censorship that, i suppose, is a risk of some of that, of some of that legislation. Yeah. I suppose it could be, but i think its, i think its gone the other way. Has it. Not in schools. I mean, children are being taught all sorts of things that, you know, sex might be that, you know, sex might be that gender is more important than your biological sex and issues of safeguarding and all of this stuff. Im interested to know what you at home think. Do you think Sex Education should be completely banned . Do you think there should be absolutely no talk of transgenderism or gender ideology, or being able to change your gender in schools . Were going to be having that debate a little later on in the show, because weve got two very different views on this, some concern that it could, leave children at risk if they dont understand various things about Sex Education and sex and relationships. But well get stuck into that. So get your views in gbnews. Com yoursay should we get the headlines . Should we get the headlines . Very good afternoon to you. Its 1 02. Very good afternoon to you. Its1 02. Im aaron very good afternoon to you. Its 1 02. Im Aaron Armstrong. Its1 02. Im Aaron Armstrong. Sir keir starmer used all six questions at todays pmqs to grill rishi sunak about prisons and the Early Release of prisoners. The labour leader prisoners. The labour leader referenced a recent report which says high risk prisoners are being released up to 70 days early at short notice , without early at short notice, without sufficient planning coming just days after mr sunak suggested labour couldnt be trusted with National Security , sir keir said National Security, sir keir said the prison system is in chaos and accused the government of failing to provide any detail on inmates due for Early Release. The Early Release of stalkers , domestic abusers and those considered a risk to children sound like the work of someone who is making the country more secure. Mr speaker, as ive said, as ive said , no one should be put ive said, no one should be put on this scheme if they are a threat to the public. And let me be crystal clear, it does not apply to me. Absolutely. It does not apply to anyone serving a life sentence. Anyone convicted of a serious violent offence, anyone convicted of terrorism, anyone convicted of terrorism, anyone convicted of a sex offence and crucially, in contrast to the system that labour had put in place, mr speaker , governors and the speaker, governors and the pfison speaker, governors and the Prison Service have an absolute lock so that no one is put on the scheme who shouldnt be well i the governments also suggested police could make more use of existing stop and search powers as part of new measures to tackle knife crime. The to tackle knife crime. The searches were curbed a decade ago by the then home secretary, theresa may, after it was found black and other ethnic minority people were being disproportionately targeted. Disproportionately targeted. £55 million will be invested into developing new technology , into developing new technology, which could help police detect suspects carrying knives by scanning them from a distance. New proposals could see schools in england banned from teaching students about gender identity. Students about gender identity. It would also see all Sex Education halted for children under the age of nine. The Prime Minister ordered a review into relationships, sex and Health Education last year over concerns some kids were being exposed to inappropriate content. Policing minister chris philp says politically contentious issues have no place in the classroom. Well, i think the report is due to come out very shortly. Very shortly. Im sure that the education secretary will then move to make the changes quickly and look as a parent as well. I dont want a parent as well. I dont want my children to be honest, to be exposed to inappropriate content at a pretty young age. And i dont, nor do i want politically contested ideas like the trans issues being taught as if theyre facts. I think, you know, childhood is a really like special time, and i dont think we need to introduce some of these ideas too early. The mother of barnaby webber, who was stabbed and killed in nottingham last year, has told gb news she feels the killers sentence was the result of a flawed, weak Police Investigation. Barnaby webber, Grace Omalley Kumar and ian coates were killed last june by valdo calocane. The 32 year old, valdo calocane. The 32 year old, who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia , was given an schizophrenia, was given an indefinite hospital order. Emma webber told us the case revealed weaknesses in the legal system. We were not expecting anything other than the outcome yesterday. I think weve yesterday. I think weve hopefully made it very clear that all three families united, do not accept, the plea of diminished responsibility. So diminished responsibility. So therefore, manslaughter, alongside the attempted murder charges. And we feel its the charges. And we feel its the result of a very, very flawed and failed Police Investigation and failed Police Investigation and a weak, cps prosecution from the east midlands and an utter overreliance upon doctors reports gb news can reveal the number of people crossing the channel has increased by 40 this year after an apparent switch in people smuggling tactics, sources say. Criminal gangs are now pushing out fewer boats at any one time, but more often in a bid to avoid french beach patrols. Its resulted in almost a fortnight of continued low level migrant activity when boats were launched from the french coast each day over the past 12 days, the biggest single day of arrivals was the 4th of may, when five small boats brought 244 people to british waters. Finally, if youve ever waters. Finally, if youve ever been stuck on hold and who hasnt . How about waiting 800 hasnt . How about waiting 800 years . Thats how long people in britain spent waiting to talk to the taxman. Last year , a damning the taxman. Last year, a damning report from the governments spending watchdog has found. Spending watchdog has found. Taxpayers were on hold to hmrc for around 7,000,000 hours in that tax year, which is more than double since before the pandemic, the report says. Advisors are answering fewer calls and those who do manage to get through spend longer on the phone amid whats been described as a declining spiral of customer service. More on all of customer service. More on all of our stories on gb news alerts. You can scan the qr code on your screen or go to the website for more details. Now back to tom and. Emily. And. Emily. Well, its 107 and theres well, its107 and theres been quite the clash in the commons this lunchtime over whos tougher on crime. Rishi sunak says labour let out dangerous criminals early keir starmer says sunak is doing exactly the same with domestic abusers as well. This comes on the day that the government attempts to crack down on knife crime. So whos right to dissect it all . Joining us from downing street is our Political Correspondent , Political Correspondent, Katherine Forster. Catherine, its all crime and justice today. Who do you think came out on top . Well, i think actually on top . Well, i think actually they were both very spirited and i think they both had their good moments. Now keir starmer really went to town on all this lanyard business and said, you know, i know that the Prime Minister has done seven relaunches and hes busy with that gravest of threats , lanyards. But rishi threats, lanyards. But rishi sunak hit back on all starmers points very, very forcefully. Lets take a look first at what starmer had to say about prisons. Does the Prime Minister think that his decision to let prisoners out 70 days early makes our country more secure . Yeah now lets see what the Prime Minister came back with it. Their scheme. Let out thousands upon thousands of violent offenders onto our streets and even to terrorists. Streets and even to terrorists. Thankfully, weve toughened up sentencing against those criminals with new legislation. But he voted against it. Mr speaker , now, starmer used all speaker, now, starmer used all of his questions on prisons, but rishi sunak was very keen to divert off that topic onto defence. Their 2. 5 that theyve pledged by 2030 onto the economy, which, according to an economist from the ons, is going gangbusters, etc. Etc. But on prisons specifically , he did say prisons specifically, he did say that no one deemed a threat would be released and that there were very strict kerbs in place. Now in the lobby briefing afterwards , they gave us afterwards, they gave us a little bit more detail. They said it was only going to be people who were not deemed a threat to the public, that they would be electronically tagged, that if there was any breach of their conditions , theyd be their conditions, theyd be taken back in and said that this was nothing really unusual. They denied that the prisons were completely full, though clearly they must be pretty full for this to be happening. But their bafic this to be happening. But their basic message was, oh, this is nothing to be alarmed about and theres nothing to see here. They were also very, very keen to point out what happened under the last Labour Government when, according to them, they said that 81,000 prisoners were released early, including, they say, 16,000 violent offenders. They say there was no power of veto, less supervision , no veto, less supervision, no tagging and that this scheme was eligible to prisoners no matter what they had done. Of course, when we asked for the figures in terms of the numbers being released now, they said they didnt have those figures, but the ministry of justice would be releasing them in due course. So both parties want to be seen as the party that will keep you safe. But i think questions to answer certainly from the conservatives but also labour on their past record. Yeah quite difficult for rishi sunak to claim that absolutely no dangerous criminals are being let out of prison early because it was only yesterday that the prison watchdog said exactly the reverse, that, despite prison staff objections , there were staff objections, there were people being let out, including dangerous stalkers , is so hard dangerous stalkers, is so hard to know. What the truth is, is here on this one. But what about the knife crime push that the government is talking about today . Today . Yes. So the government have announced another £4 million to tackle knife crime. Theyre going to be using technology. Going to be using technology. They have plans for these knife detection wands that ultimately police can use to scan somebody as theyre walking along the street and tell whether they have a knife or not. Also, things like facial recognition that theyve trialled in places like croydon that theyre saying very effective. If theres very effective. If theres somebody that theyre looking for that they can they can get them easily, that innocent peoples details will be wiped straight away. But the policing minister, chris philp, wrote in the telegraph today about the importance of stop and search because knife crime is almost at record levels and in london it is at record levels and the amount of stop and search is basically only one quarter of what it was going back to about 2010, 2011, when theresa may said use it cautiously. The government has now said its being underused, the police have the powers and should use them because people are dying on our streets. Streets. Well, Katherine Forster live from downing street. Thank you very much for all of that. Now on that knife crime issue, these stops and searches back in february 2014, 20 year old Dwayne Simpson was stabbed to death as he tried to protect his friend in what was called a senseless killing. And for the last ten years, his mother , pastor lorraine his mother, pastor lorraine jones, has been a fighting force in her community, working to keep young people away from knife crime. She joins us now. Knife crime. She joins us now. Thank you so much for joining us, lorraine. Really appreciate your time, considering everything thats happened. And, everything thats happened. And, in the last ten years, tell us a little bit about your reaction to the various changes in government policy, particularly with relation to stop and search. The government clearly want the police to be doing more of it. Whats your perspective . Of it. Whats your perspective . Well, in the community, we do need it. What we have been, voicing out is the way in which the stop and search is being carried out. That is how how its been encountered, how theyre doing it. We havent got the resources, and were not in the position to be stopping anyone and taking taken away any knives. That is the job of the police. The truth of the matter is, every single day there is a stabbing. Were only hearing about the fatalities , but there about the fatalities, but there are a lot of stabbings going on where people have survived. It is a state of emergency and parent, grandparents and young people are fearing for their life. Now, youve been in this field for ten years now. Whats your sense of how things have changed, how attitudes might have changed one way or the other . Is it or is it simply not changing . Whats it like out there on the ground . I work with the police, as the iag, chair for lambeth police, and i also attend a number of meetings at scotland yard. I can see that there has been a change. I cant echo enough. The been a change. I cant echo enough. The deputy, commissioner eddie adelakun. Hes brought about two initiatives which the majority of the community that were involved with bought into that, that was a precise stop and search, focusing on hot spots where these incidents are happening so that the police are not just stopping anyone everywhere. Theyre precise in everywhere. Theyre precise in their stop and search. The other one, the other one is the stop and search charter. Now, that involves a number of young people, other Community Leaders , people, other Community Leaders, stakeholders, where we spoke about the issues which young people are experiencing through the stop and search through that charter, it was identified the quality of the encounter, improved supervision , improved improved supervision, improved training for the officers, improved complaints and handling better use of technology. Theres a lot of work gone into that, so if the police can really support those initiatives, which weve had a part in, to improve the type of stop and search thats going to be happening, it will work. If its going to just be the traditional way. Its been done, especially with the black community. A lot of our young boys have experienced bad stop and search. My son in particular, i must say, and its important for me to say this. Oh, i think we might have lost your audio. Well pastor lorraine jones, were going to try and get your audio back. Lets. Awful timing. Awful timing. Lets try and see if we can re establish that because thats a very, very important distinction to make actually that not all stop and search is created equal. Some of its slapdash, haphazard, not intelligence led, but focusing intelligence led, but focusing in hot spots in areas where gangs operate is potentially something much more targeted and much better use of resources. And perhaps more useful to pick up some of those issues. Up some of those issues. Yeah, its interesting to hear to hear what lorraine was going to say about this issue, because of course, there are a lot of young black men in particular, who complain that theyre stopped and searched for no other reason than for the colour of their skin, and i was wondering what lorraine had to say. There in particular about, you know, how to square that. How to square that, but we shall move on for now , because schools move on for now, because schools in england will be banned from teaching Sex Education to children under nine years old. This is a new government guidance expected to be published tomorrow. Well, the education secretary, gillian keegan, will also announce that once Sex Education starts, pupils must be taught about the reality of biological sex. Well, joining us now is fiona mckenna, director of campaigns at sex matters. Thank you very much indeed forjoining us, fiona , for your perspective on fiona, for your perspective on all this. Is this a positive move . Move . Yes, this is very welcome. Teachers have been calling out for some time for clarity about what they should be teaching, when instead what weve had is a kind of ideological wild west where all kinds of external groups can come in and teach whatever they think is appropriate. And then, to add inqu appropriate. And then, to add insult

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